Investing in Michigan

[waiting hawk]

omg the movie cutters (breaking away). I thought I was the only one on here that old. That movie made soooo many stars.

[njtosd]

You’re right! I forgot that was the title – I guess that’s just a result of my age :). And I also hadn’t realized that Dennis Quaid was in it. All the more reason to watch it again ;).

[njtosd]

You’re right! I forgot that was the title – I guess that’s just a result of my age :). And I also hadn’t realized that Dennis Quaid was in it. All the more reason to watch it again ;).

[njtosd]

You’re right! I forgot that was the title – I guess that’s just a result of my age :). And I also hadn’t realized that Dennis Quaid was in it. All the more reason to watch it again ;).

[njtosd]

You’re right! I forgot that was the title – I guess that’s just a result of my age :). And I also hadn’t realized that Dennis Quaid was in it. All the more reason to watch it again ;).

[njtosd]

You’re right! I forgot that was the title – I guess that’s just a result of my age :). And I also hadn’t realized that Dennis Quaid was in it. All the more reason to watch it again ;).

[guitar187]

Thanks for all the good posts. There are some interesting perspectives to think over.

[guitar187]

Thanks for all the good posts. There are some interesting perspectives to think over.

[guitar187]

Thanks for all the good posts. There are some interesting perspectives to think over.

[guitar187]

Thanks for all the good posts. There are some interesting perspectives to think over.

[guitar187]

Thanks for all the good posts. There are some interesting perspectives to think over.

[CA renter]

[quote=CricketOnTheHearth]Hi, guitar187:

I’m another Michigan-born who moved out here 17 years ago but my dad is still back there and I visit once every year or so.

Basically for decades Michigan has been really three economic districts– the Detroit area and Flint, epicenters of the auto industry and cratering of same, located around the “base of the thumb”. Then there is “outstate Michigan”, which is the rest of the “mitten”. In the south along I-94 you have Ann Arbor (as mentioned, doing all right), Battle Creek (doing middling), Kalamazoo/Portage (doing all right). A bit to the north is Grand Rapids, which is also doing OK, and Lansing, which is kind of suffering from the aura of the auto industry crater, I believe.

Further in the north of the “mitten” you have Traverse City and Mackinac Island… their economies have a large tourism component; I’m not sure how they’re doing.

Finally there is the “upper peninsula”, whose country and economy more resembles rural Canada or Minnesota than the southern part of the state.

If you want to invest in Michigan fairly conservatively, I recommend Grand Rapids, Kalamazoo, or Ann Arbor. Stay the hell away from Flint and Benton Harbor, they are crime epicenters.

Detroit itself still has a way to fall, unless you can hook something up with the artists & musicians & the like who are moving back in there– if you can, knock yourself out. Musically and artistically I think Detroit is a jewel very much still in the ground, but it has a lot of potential because those artists basically have free rein of the place. See Detroit Lives! to see what I mean.[/quote]

That is a great site, Cricket. Thanks for sharing that with us.

You know, I think that if we had socialized medicine in this country, we could revive a lot of these great Midwestern cities. There are plenty of reasons for young people to move there — cheap housing, plenty of cheap commercial space, fresh water, and a “blank page,” like they said in the video. The problem is that people cannot live without healthcare, and in a country where families have to pay $1,000++ per month for health insurance, there is no way they can strike out and take great entrepreneurial risks in cities like Detroit. If we gave them a bit of extra security via universal healthcare, I think we’d see more people would be willing to take extra risks, and it could lead to a new era of fantastic creativity and innovation.

[CA renter]

[quote=CricketOnTheHearth]Hi, guitar187:

I’m another Michigan-born who moved out here 17 years ago but my dad is still back there and I visit once every year or so.

Basically for decades Michigan has been really three economic districts– the Detroit area and Flint, epicenters of the auto industry and cratering of same, located around the “base of the thumb”. Then there is “outstate Michigan”, which is the rest of the “mitten”. In the south along I-94 you have Ann Arbor (as mentioned, doing all right), Battle Creek (doing middling), Kalamazoo/Portage (doing all right). A bit to the north is Grand Rapids, which is also doing OK, and Lansing, which is kind of suffering from the aura of the auto industry crater, I believe.

Further in the north of the “mitten” you have Traverse City and Mackinac Island… their economies have a large tourism component; I’m not sure how they’re doing.

Finally there is the “upper peninsula”, whose country and economy more resembles rural Canada or Minnesota than the southern part of the state.

If you want to invest in Michigan fairly conservatively, I recommend Grand Rapids, Kalamazoo, or Ann Arbor. Stay the hell away from Flint and Benton Harbor, they are crime epicenters.

Detroit itself still has a way to fall, unless you can hook something up with the artists & musicians & the like who are moving back in there– if you can, knock yourself out. Musically and artistically I think Detroit is a jewel very much still in the ground, but it has a lot of potential because those artists basically have free rein of the place. See Detroit Lives! to see what I mean.[/quote]

That is a great site, Cricket. Thanks for sharing that with us.

You know, I think that if we had socialized medicine in this country, we could revive a lot of these great Midwestern cities. There are plenty of reasons for young people to move there — cheap housing, plenty of cheap commercial space, fresh water, and a “blank page,” like they said in the video. The problem is that people cannot live without healthcare, and in a country where families have to pay $1,000++ per month for health insurance, there is no way they can strike out and take great entrepreneurial risks in cities like Detroit. If we gave them a bit of extra security via universal healthcare, I think we’d see more people would be willing to take extra risks, and it could lead to a new era of fantastic creativity and innovation.

[CA renter]

[quote=CricketOnTheHearth]Hi, guitar187:

I’m another Michigan-born who moved out here 17 years ago but my dad is still back there and I visit once every year or so.

Basically for decades Michigan has been really three economic districts– the Detroit area and Flint, epicenters of the auto industry and cratering of same, located around the “base of the thumb”. Then there is “outstate Michigan”, which is the rest of the “mitten”. In the south along I-94 you have Ann Arbor (as mentioned, doing all right), Battle Creek (doing middling), Kalamazoo/Portage (doing all right). A bit to the north is Grand Rapids, which is also doing OK, and Lansing, which is kind of suffering from the aura of the auto industry crater, I believe.

Further in the north of the “mitten” you have Traverse City and Mackinac Island… their economies have a large tourism component; I’m not sure how they’re doing.

Finally there is the “upper peninsula”, whose country and economy more resembles rural Canada or Minnesota than the southern part of the state.

If you want to invest in Michigan fairly conservatively, I recommend Grand Rapids, Kalamazoo, or Ann Arbor. Stay the hell away from Flint and Benton Harbor, they are crime epicenters.

Detroit itself still has a way to fall, unless you can hook something up with the artists & musicians & the like who are moving back in there– if you can, knock yourself out. Musically and artistically I think Detroit is a jewel very much still in the ground, but it has a lot of potential because those artists basically have free rein of the place. See Detroit Lives! to see what I mean.[/quote]

That is a great site, Cricket. Thanks for sharing that with us.

You know, I think that if we had socialized medicine in this country, we could revive a lot of these great Midwestern cities. There are plenty of reasons for young people to move there — cheap housing, plenty of cheap commercial space, fresh water, and a “blank page,” like they said in the video. The problem is that people cannot live without healthcare, and in a country where families have to pay $1,000++ per month for health insurance, there is no way they can strike out and take great entrepreneurial risks in cities like Detroit. If we gave them a bit of extra security via universal healthcare, I think we’d see more people would be willing to take extra risks, and it could lead to a new era of fantastic creativity and innovation.

[CA renter]

[quote=CricketOnTheHearth]Hi, guitar187:

I’m another Michigan-born who moved out here 17 years ago but my dad is still back there and I visit once every year or so.

Basically for decades Michigan has been really three economic districts– the Detroit area and Flint, epicenters of the auto industry and cratering of same, located around the “base of the thumb”. Then there is “outstate Michigan”, which is the rest of the “mitten”. In the south along I-94 you have Ann Arbor (as mentioned, doing all right), Battle Creek (doing middling), Kalamazoo/Portage (doing all right). A bit to the north is Grand Rapids, which is also doing OK, and Lansing, which is kind of suffering from the aura of the auto industry crater, I believe.

Further in the north of the “mitten” you have Traverse City and Mackinac Island… their economies have a large tourism component; I’m not sure how they’re doing.

Finally there is the “upper peninsula”, whose country and economy more resembles rural Canada or Minnesota than the southern part of the state.

If you want to invest in Michigan fairly conservatively, I recommend Grand Rapids, Kalamazoo, or Ann Arbor. Stay the hell away from Flint and Benton Harbor, they are crime epicenters.

Detroit itself still has a way to fall, unless you can hook something up with the artists & musicians & the like who are moving back in there– if you can, knock yourself out. Musically and artistically I think Detroit is a jewel very much still in the ground, but it has a lot of potential because those artists basically have free rein of the place. See Detroit Lives! to see what I mean.[/quote]

That is a great site, Cricket. Thanks for sharing that with us.

You know, I think that if we had socialized medicine in this country, we could revive a lot of these great Midwestern cities. There are plenty of reasons for young people to move there — cheap housing, plenty of cheap commercial space, fresh water, and a “blank page,” like they said in the video. The problem is that people cannot live without healthcare, and in a country where families have to pay $1,000++ per month for health insurance, there is no way they can strike out and take great entrepreneurial risks in cities like Detroit. If we gave them a bit of extra security via universal healthcare, I think we’d see more people would be willing to take extra risks, and it could lead to a new era of fantastic creativity and innovation.

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