Inflation – Has it arrived?

[socrattt]

SDR and PR, you both bring up some very interesting and valid points and both arguable to some extent.

It’s no surprise that we all pretend to understand the current crisis or predict where it will go, but at the end of the day we could all be wrong. To argue SDR’s point just for a moment, I think there are some core differences of growing up with very little on a steel worker’s income compared to a completely different generation where the young depend on their next social media fix.

There’s an obvious truth that doesn’t require numbers or statistics and that’s the fact that this generation relies heavily on the government and many lack the ability to survive on their own.

I own lots of land, plenty of metals, some grains and many other tools allowing me to survive any sort of crisis. But the truth is I don’t trust myself because I’ve never had to. I’m in my early thirties and worked solely from a computer my entire adult life. Would I cope? Maybe, but there’s no certainty as I’ve been lucky to have planted one tree and a couple of flowers since I was a child. Maybe I’m abnormal or maybe that’s most of the people in my age bracket. We’ve just grown up in an entirely different generation.

I certainly didn’t grow up with a silver spoon. In fact I supported my poor mother at the age of 12. But truthfully I don’t even call that struggling. America gave me the ability at 12 to thrive and survive. Those same tools are slowly dwindling for many and the real question is what will happen if America really does take a turn for the worse? No one has the answer, but I will say that everyone better stock up on their Xanax because there will be a high level of young, anxious people in this country if something does go wrong. Could you imagine no Facebook or Twitter? I wouldn’t be able to see what my buddy John had for dinner or read another has been Charlie Sheen tweet.

[scaredyclassic]

i think kids, well, neurotic kids, liek to eat the same thing every day. i always ate a cream cheese and jelly snadwich every day of my childhood without fail. i would have nothing else. there is comfort in complete lack of variety for little ones. it’s amazing i was able to grow to achieve semi-normal adulthood ona diet of just cream cheese and jelly for lunch. sure there was a bit of protein in the evenings, but all i remember is cream cheese and jelly on a sandwich every day, and anger if i got anything else. i guess i woulda been screwed if the price of cream cheese or jelly went thru the roof.

it was also a topic of much mirth among my parents that the only vegetable I would eat was cucumber peelings. yes, the waxy feel. the family would eat salads, and i would eat peelings. this was not economy minded at the time. just liked peelings, basically, garbage. probably pesticide laden. I ate buckets of em. weird. but inexpensive. i have no interets in eating cucumber peelings now and have no recollection of what was attractive about them. after eating probably 3,000 consecutive cream cheese and jelly sandwiches, i just stopped one day and never had another.

i guess people have wildly different ideas about what is necessary in terms of food. Food insecurity is a terrible thing, but there are options on a limited budget.

I remmeber thinking as a kid, those stories of old people eating cat food cause they were broke? why not just have some spaghetti. I wa spretty sure there was no way I was going to eat cat food, no matter how bad it got…

[scaredyclassic]

i think kids, well, neurotic kids, liek to eat the same thing every day. i always ate a cream cheese and jelly snadwich every day of my childhood without fail. i would have nothing else. there is comfort in complete lack of variety for little ones. it’s amazing i was able to grow to achieve semi-normal adulthood ona diet of just cream cheese and jelly for lunch. sure there was a bit of protein in the evenings, but all i remember is cream cheese and jelly on a sandwich every day, and anger if i got anything else. i guess i woulda been screwed if the price of cream cheese or jelly went thru the roof.

it was also a topic of much mirth among my parents that the only vegetable I would eat was cucumber peelings. yes, the waxy feel. the family would eat salads, and i would eat peelings. this was not economy minded at the time. just liked peelings, basically, garbage. probably pesticide laden. I ate buckets of em. weird. but inexpensive. i have no interets in eating cucumber peelings now and have no recollection of what was attractive about them. after eating probably 3,000 consecutive cream cheese and jelly sandwiches, i just stopped one day and never had another.

i guess people have wildly different ideas about what is necessary in terms of food. Food insecurity is a terrible thing, but there are options on a limited budget.

I remmeber thinking as a kid, those stories of old people eating cat food cause they were broke? why not just have some spaghetti. I wa spretty sure there was no way I was going to eat cat food, no matter how bad it got…

[scaredyclassic]

i think kids, well, neurotic kids, liek to eat the same thing every day. i always ate a cream cheese and jelly snadwich every day of my childhood without fail. i would have nothing else. there is comfort in complete lack of variety for little ones. it’s amazing i was able to grow to achieve semi-normal adulthood ona diet of just cream cheese and jelly for lunch. sure there was a bit of protein in the evenings, but all i remember is cream cheese and jelly on a sandwich every day, and anger if i got anything else. i guess i woulda been screwed if the price of cream cheese or jelly went thru the roof.

it was also a topic of much mirth among my parents that the only vegetable I would eat was cucumber peelings. yes, the waxy feel. the family would eat salads, and i would eat peelings. this was not economy minded at the time. just liked peelings, basically, garbage. probably pesticide laden. I ate buckets of em. weird. but inexpensive. i have no interets in eating cucumber peelings now and have no recollection of what was attractive about them. after eating probably 3,000 consecutive cream cheese and jelly sandwiches, i just stopped one day and never had another.

i guess people have wildly different ideas about what is necessary in terms of food. Food insecurity is a terrible thing, but there are options on a limited budget.

I remmeber thinking as a kid, those stories of old people eating cat food cause they were broke? why not just have some spaghetti. I wa spretty sure there was no way I was going to eat cat food, no matter how bad it got…

[scaredyclassic]

i think kids, well, neurotic kids, liek to eat the same thing every day. i always ate a cream cheese and jelly snadwich every day of my childhood without fail. i would have nothing else. there is comfort in complete lack of variety for little ones. it’s amazing i was able to grow to achieve semi-normal adulthood ona diet of just cream cheese and jelly for lunch. sure there was a bit of protein in the evenings, but all i remember is cream cheese and jelly on a sandwich every day, and anger if i got anything else. i guess i woulda been screwed if the price of cream cheese or jelly went thru the roof.

it was also a topic of much mirth among my parents that the only vegetable I would eat was cucumber peelings. yes, the waxy feel. the family would eat salads, and i would eat peelings. this was not economy minded at the time. just liked peelings, basically, garbage. probably pesticide laden. I ate buckets of em. weird. but inexpensive. i have no interets in eating cucumber peelings now and have no recollection of what was attractive about them. after eating probably 3,000 consecutive cream cheese and jelly sandwiches, i just stopped one day and never had another.

i guess people have wildly different ideas about what is necessary in terms of food. Food insecurity is a terrible thing, but there are options on a limited budget.

I remmeber thinking as a kid, those stories of old people eating cat food cause they were broke? why not just have some spaghetti. I wa spretty sure there was no way I was going to eat cat food, no matter how bad it got…

[scaredyclassic]

i think kids, well, neurotic kids, liek to eat the same thing every day. i always ate a cream cheese and jelly snadwich every day of my childhood without fail. i would have nothing else. there is comfort in complete lack of variety for little ones. it’s amazing i was able to grow to achieve semi-normal adulthood ona diet of just cream cheese and jelly for lunch. sure there was a bit of protein in the evenings, but all i remember is cream cheese and jelly on a sandwich every day, and anger if i got anything else. i guess i woulda been screwed if the price of cream cheese or jelly went thru the roof.

it was also a topic of much mirth among my parents that the only vegetable I would eat was cucumber peelings. yes, the waxy feel. the family would eat salads, and i would eat peelings. this was not economy minded at the time. just liked peelings, basically, garbage. probably pesticide laden. I ate buckets of em. weird. but inexpensive. i have no interets in eating cucumber peelings now and have no recollection of what was attractive about them. after eating probably 3,000 consecutive cream cheese and jelly sandwiches, i just stopped one day and never had another.

i guess people have wildly different ideas about what is necessary in terms of food. Food insecurity is a terrible thing, but there are options on a limited budget.

I remmeber thinking as a kid, those stories of old people eating cat food cause they were broke? why not just have some spaghetti. I wa spretty sure there was no way I was going to eat cat food, no matter how bad it got…

[CA renter]

[quote=SD Realtor]Sure it works for you Brian. I am sure your answer is suitable to the millions who are not as well off as you. The families with kids, and who don’t live in San Diego. I am sure children will love plain oatmeal for breakfast every day.

Some of things you say are so laughable. Honestly… If you ever find a spouse and have kids you will receive the wakeup call of your life Brian.

I cannot imagine there is a parent on this board who reads some of your life simple posts and doesn’t shake their heads in disbelief.

Your simplistic answers for everyone are never well thought out and are frequently highly impractical. As the cost of water and sewer continues to rise these same people can alter consumption of water and use the toilet less as well. The answers of govt providing further basic necessities are illogical for a govt that is debt ridden, cannot resolve mammoth entitlement issues, and for a currency that has already been devalued significantly.

Inflation in basic necessities is a disaster for those of lesser means when it is not accompanies by corresponding wage increases.

The far more realistic scenario of what will happen in the real world as opposed to Brians world is that a wider chasm will be created by the haves and have nots. Further destruction of the middle class will continue and increased welfare will be needed just to keep people afloat rather then the creation of the utopian society you envision.

So yes if that is what you espouse then higher energy and food prices are good.[/quote]

SDR,

I think one of the reasons you and I have been talking about the OBVIOUS inflation for a long time is because we have families with kids. Everything we do, all the money we spend, is multiplied by X.

Brian’s large oatmeal container might last him a month. It would last us a week, if that. We go through half of a large container in one meal (not to mention the 3 baskets of berries I use each time we serve oatmeal).

Baths? Laundry? Toiletries? Travel expenses (plane tickets, skis/lift passes, even hotel rooms — we have to get a suite or two connecting rooms these days)… For us, everything we do equals Brian’s expenses x5. Our reality is VERY different from Brian’s, no doubt about it. This is why you and I could see the inflation a long time ago.

[CA renter]

[quote=SD Realtor]Sure it works for you Brian. I am sure your answer is suitable to the millions who are not as well off as you. The families with kids, and who don’t live in San Diego. I am sure children will love plain oatmeal for breakfast every day.

Some of things you say are so laughable. Honestly… If you ever find a spouse and have kids you will receive the wakeup call of your life Brian.

I cannot imagine there is a parent on this board who reads some of your life simple posts and doesn’t shake their heads in disbelief.

Your simplistic answers for everyone are never well thought out and are frequently highly impractical. As the cost of water and sewer continues to rise these same people can alter consumption of water and use the toilet less as well. The answers of govt providing further basic necessities are illogical for a govt that is debt ridden, cannot resolve mammoth entitlement issues, and for a currency that has already been devalued significantly.

Inflation in basic necessities is a disaster for those of lesser means when it is not accompanies by corresponding wage increases.

The far more realistic scenario of what will happen in the real world as opposed to Brians world is that a wider chasm will be created by the haves and have nots. Further destruction of the middle class will continue and increased welfare will be needed just to keep people afloat rather then the creation of the utopian society you envision.

So yes if that is what you espouse then higher energy and food prices are good.[/quote]

SDR,

I think one of the reasons you and I have been talking about the OBVIOUS inflation for a long time is because we have families with kids. Everything we do, all the money we spend, is multiplied by X.

Brian’s large oatmeal container might last him a month. It would last us a week, if that. We go through half of a large container in one meal (not to mention the 3 baskets of berries I use each time we serve oatmeal).

Baths? Laundry? Toiletries? Travel expenses (plane tickets, skis/lift passes, even hotel rooms — we have to get a suite or two connecting rooms these days)… For us, everything we do equals Brian’s expenses x5. Our reality is VERY different from Brian’s, no doubt about it. This is why you and I could see the inflation a long time ago.

[CA renter]

[quote=SD Realtor]Sure it works for you Brian. I am sure your answer is suitable to the millions who are not as well off as you. The families with kids, and who don’t live in San Diego. I am sure children will love plain oatmeal for breakfast every day.

Some of things you say are so laughable. Honestly… If you ever find a spouse and have kids you will receive the wakeup call of your life Brian.

I cannot imagine there is a parent on this board who reads some of your life simple posts and doesn’t shake their heads in disbelief.

Your simplistic answers for everyone are never well thought out and are frequently highly impractical. As the cost of water and sewer continues to rise these same people can alter consumption of water and use the toilet less as well. The answers of govt providing further basic necessities are illogical for a govt that is debt ridden, cannot resolve mammoth entitlement issues, and for a currency that has already been devalued significantly.

Inflation in basic necessities is a disaster for those of lesser means when it is not accompanies by corresponding wage increases.

The far more realistic scenario of what will happen in the real world as opposed to Brians world is that a wider chasm will be created by the haves and have nots. Further destruction of the middle class will continue and increased welfare will be needed just to keep people afloat rather then the creation of the utopian society you envision.

So yes if that is what you espouse then higher energy and food prices are good.[/quote]

SDR,

I think one of the reasons you and I have been talking about the OBVIOUS inflation for a long time is because we have families with kids. Everything we do, all the money we spend, is multiplied by X.

Brian’s large oatmeal container might last him a month. It would last us a week, if that. We go through half of a large container in one meal (not to mention the 3 baskets of berries I use each time we serve oatmeal).

Baths? Laundry? Toiletries? Travel expenses (plane tickets, skis/lift passes, even hotel rooms — we have to get a suite or two connecting rooms these days)… For us, everything we do equals Brian’s expenses x5. Our reality is VERY different from Brian’s, no doubt about it. This is why you and I could see the inflation a long time ago.

[CA renter]

[quote=SD Realtor]Sure it works for you Brian. I am sure your answer is suitable to the millions who are not as well off as you. The families with kids, and who don’t live in San Diego. I am sure children will love plain oatmeal for breakfast every day.

Some of things you say are so laughable. Honestly… If you ever find a spouse and have kids you will receive the wakeup call of your life Brian.

I cannot imagine there is a parent on this board who reads some of your life simple posts and doesn’t shake their heads in disbelief.

Your simplistic answers for everyone are never well thought out and are frequently highly impractical. As the cost of water and sewer continues to rise these same people can alter consumption of water and use the toilet less as well. The answers of govt providing further basic necessities are illogical for a govt that is debt ridden, cannot resolve mammoth entitlement issues, and for a currency that has already been devalued significantly.

Inflation in basic necessities is a disaster for those of lesser means when it is not accompanies by corresponding wage increases.

The far more realistic scenario of what will happen in the real world as opposed to Brians world is that a wider chasm will be created by the haves and have nots. Further destruction of the middle class will continue and increased welfare will be needed just to keep people afloat rather then the creation of the utopian society you envision.

So yes if that is what you espouse then higher energy and food prices are good.[/quote]

SDR,

I think one of the reasons you and I have been talking about the OBVIOUS inflation for a long time is because we have families with kids. Everything we do, all the money we spend, is multiplied by X.

Brian’s large oatmeal container might last him a month. It would last us a week, if that. We go through half of a large container in one meal (not to mention the 3 baskets of berries I use each time we serve oatmeal).

Baths? Laundry? Toiletries? Travel expenses (plane tickets, skis/lift passes, even hotel rooms — we have to get a suite or two connecting rooms these days)… For us, everything we do equals Brian’s expenses x5. Our reality is VERY different from Brian’s, no doubt about it. This is why you and I could see the inflation a long time ago.

[CA renter]

[quote=SD Realtor]Sure it works for you Brian. I am sure your answer is suitable to the millions who are not as well off as you. The families with kids, and who don’t live in San Diego. I am sure children will love plain oatmeal for breakfast every day.

Some of things you say are so laughable. Honestly… If you ever find a spouse and have kids you will receive the wakeup call of your life Brian.

I cannot imagine there is a parent on this board who reads some of your life simple posts and doesn’t shake their heads in disbelief.

Your simplistic answers for everyone are never well thought out and are frequently highly impractical. As the cost of water and sewer continues to rise these same people can alter consumption of water and use the toilet less as well. The answers of govt providing further basic necessities are illogical for a govt that is debt ridden, cannot resolve mammoth entitlement issues, and for a currency that has already been devalued significantly.

Inflation in basic necessities is a disaster for those of lesser means when it is not accompanies by corresponding wage increases.

The far more realistic scenario of what will happen in the real world as opposed to Brians world is that a wider chasm will be created by the haves and have nots. Further destruction of the middle class will continue and increased welfare will be needed just to keep people afloat rather then the creation of the utopian society you envision.

So yes if that is what you espouse then higher energy and food prices are good.[/quote]

SDR,

I think one of the reasons you and I have been talking about the OBVIOUS inflation for a long time is because we have families with kids. Everything we do, all the money we spend, is multiplied by X.

Brian’s large oatmeal container might last him a month. It would last us a week, if that. We go through half of a large container in one meal (not to mention the 3 baskets of berries I use each time we serve oatmeal).

Baths? Laundry? Toiletries? Travel expenses (plane tickets, skis/lift passes, even hotel rooms — we have to get a suite or two connecting rooms these days)… For us, everything we do equals Brian’s expenses x5. Our reality is VERY different from Brian’s, no doubt about it. This is why you and I could see the inflation a long time ago.

[sdrealtor]

My kids eat the same thing every day. i wish they would eat something else…I beg them to eat something else…I take them to nice restaurants but they wont eat anything on the menu…I try to feed them something else but they wont. This thread makes me feel like you are living in Zimbabwe..is that what we have become?

[sdrealtor]

My kids eat the same thing every day. i wish they would eat something else…I beg them to eat something else…I take them to nice restaurants but they wont eat anything on the menu…I try to feed them something else but they wont. This thread makes me feel like you are living in Zimbabwe..is that what we have become?

[sdrealtor]

My kids eat the same thing every day. i wish they would eat something else…I beg them to eat something else…I take them to nice restaurants but they wont eat anything on the menu…I try to feed them something else but they wont. This thread makes me feel like you are living in Zimbabwe..is that what we have become?

[sdrealtor]

My kids eat the same thing every day. i wish they would eat something else…I beg them to eat something else…I take them to nice restaurants but they wont eat anything on the menu…I try to feed them something else but they wont. This thread makes me feel like you are living in Zimbabwe..is that what we have become?

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