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January 15, 2009 at 9:38 PM #330104January 15, 2009 at 9:38 PM #330132
CoronitaParticipant[quote=jiggy]I have a question for flu: is it CONVENIENT to cut over homes on takeoff, often times at a very low altitude, rather than going an extra mile and a half to two miles to turn in order to lessen the potential damage from a crash? Several planes have crashed into the new $67 million golf course and the canyon. Can you imagine if those planes had veered immediately southwest over homes instead of flying the recommended “voluntary” route? I shudder to think of it. Many times it is better to be forget convenience when it is overshadowed by safety issues and doing the right thing! [/quote]
Well, personally I wouldn’t make the decision to buy a home that would be near a flight path or potential flightpath of an airport, planned or unintentional since I value the safety for my family versus trying to get a bigger home for the bang for buck … but that’s just me….
And it seemed like the city of CB really screwed up to allow permits to be around there so close, but it seems like considering the route is “voluntary” and if Palomar/FAA or whatever isn’t going to change the thing, what standing is there for getting things to change. It just seems like it would be a completely different situation if you bought your home and then the airport was built around it….I could see why you would be pissed. But the airport came before your home.
It seemed to me that for example a few folks that bought a home in Carmel Valley too near a powerline during the hype (and now are having a problem selling those homes because of suboptimal location because the more informed consumer think there there is some link between emf from power lines and leukemia) are sort of blaming the builder for not disclosing potential dangers of power lines when the obvious is sort of right in front of them (or i should say, right in their backyard).
The second point you make on the complaint is about the noise level, and quite hours. While I can sort of see the merits of the safety issue in your first point, I don’t see were #2 would be, considering again I don’t think Palomar was grandfathered into one of those airports that had mandatory curfews for takeoff or landing.
I’m not calling you an idiot or anything. It’s an honest question. Why did you buy near an airport?
January 15, 2009 at 9:38 PM #330215CoronitaParticipant[quote=jiggy]I have a question for flu: is it CONVENIENT to cut over homes on takeoff, often times at a very low altitude, rather than going an extra mile and a half to two miles to turn in order to lessen the potential damage from a crash? Several planes have crashed into the new $67 million golf course and the canyon. Can you imagine if those planes had veered immediately southwest over homes instead of flying the recommended “voluntary” route? I shudder to think of it. Many times it is better to be forget convenience when it is overshadowed by safety issues and doing the right thing! [/quote]
Well, personally I wouldn’t make the decision to buy a home that would be near a flight path or potential flightpath of an airport, planned or unintentional since I value the safety for my family versus trying to get a bigger home for the bang for buck … but that’s just me….
And it seemed like the city of CB really screwed up to allow permits to be around there so close, but it seems like considering the route is “voluntary” and if Palomar/FAA or whatever isn’t going to change the thing, what standing is there for getting things to change. It just seems like it would be a completely different situation if you bought your home and then the airport was built around it….I could see why you would be pissed. But the airport came before your home.
It seemed to me that for example a few folks that bought a home in Carmel Valley too near a powerline during the hype (and now are having a problem selling those homes because of suboptimal location because the more informed consumer think there there is some link between emf from power lines and leukemia) are sort of blaming the builder for not disclosing potential dangers of power lines when the obvious is sort of right in front of them (or i should say, right in their backyard).
The second point you make on the complaint is about the noise level, and quite hours. While I can sort of see the merits of the safety issue in your first point, I don’t see were #2 would be, considering again I don’t think Palomar was grandfathered into one of those airports that had mandatory curfews for takeoff or landing.
I’m not calling you an idiot or anything. It’s an honest question. Why did you buy near an airport?
January 15, 2009 at 9:52 PM #329702DWCAP
Participantflu, i thought the same thing but didnt feel like being yelled at for not “understanding”. If making sure your family is safe was such a big deal to you, why did you buy right next to an airport. There are so many other nice places in SD county, it isnt like you couldnt have found anything else. And if you didnt know it was “optional” to fly over the tracks, then it says to me you didnt do your homework and are now trying to deflect onto others.
January 15, 2009 at 9:52 PM #330041Participantflu, i thought the same thing but didnt feel like being yelled at for not “understanding”. If making sure your family is safe was such a big deal to you, why did you buy right next to an airport. There are so many other nice places in SD county, it isnt like you couldnt have found anything else. And if you didnt know it was “optional” to fly over the tracks, then it says to me you didnt do your homework and are now trying to deflect onto others.
January 15, 2009 at 9:52 PM #330114Participantflu, i thought the same thing but didnt feel like being yelled at for not “understanding”. If making sure your family is safe was such a big deal to you, why did you buy right next to an airport. There are so many other nice places in SD county, it isnt like you couldnt have found anything else. And if you didnt know it was “optional” to fly over the tracks, then it says to me you didnt do your homework and are now trying to deflect onto others.
January 15, 2009 at 9:52 PM #330141Participantflu, i thought the same thing but didnt feel like being yelled at for not “understanding”. If making sure your family is safe was such a big deal to you, why did you buy right next to an airport. There are so many other nice places in SD county, it isnt like you couldnt have found anything else. And if you didnt know it was “optional” to fly over the tracks, then it says to me you didnt do your homework and are now trying to deflect onto others.
January 15, 2009 at 9:52 PM #330225Participantflu, i thought the same thing but didnt feel like being yelled at for not “understanding”. If making sure your family is safe was such a big deal to you, why did you buy right next to an airport. There are so many other nice places in SD county, it isnt like you couldnt have found anything else. And if you didnt know it was “optional” to fly over the tracks, then it says to me you didnt do your homework and are now trying to deflect onto others.
January 15, 2009 at 10:00 PM #329712CoronitaParticipant[quote=jiggy]Yes, that means what it implies–VOLUNTARY. However, Palomar commissioned this study itself and they came to the conclusion that it was the safest route! They advise pilots to follow that route and as I said, the majority do.
Since Palomar is the busiest single runway airport in the nation and since the accident rate is so high, and since there ARE so many homes in the area (regardless of whether or not they should have been built), don’t you believe that NOT following the safety conclusion to the report that the airport commissioned is a bit dangerous? Come on, people…this is not rocket science. My children and neighbors are living in a potential deadly zone. It is not a question of IF but of WHEN a plane will hit a neighborhood.
Look at the accident stats and you will see that compared to other airports in the nation Palomar has staggering odds. The FAA will not do anything about this unless the county (airport owner) tells them something needs to be done. The Palomar Airport Advisory Committee (PAAC) needs to step up to the plate and get the FAA to do so. They will not listen to our pleas.[/quote]
And if you value your children’s life as the most important thing, and you fear for their safety and fear there is imminent danger, bite the bullet and move out right now. It’s just money for christ sake.
January 15, 2009 at 10:00 PM #330051CoronitaParticipant[quote=jiggy]Yes, that means what it implies–VOLUNTARY. However, Palomar commissioned this study itself and they came to the conclusion that it was the safest route! They advise pilots to follow that route and as I said, the majority do.
Since Palomar is the busiest single runway airport in the nation and since the accident rate is so high, and since there ARE so many homes in the area (regardless of whether or not they should have been built), don’t you believe that NOT following the safety conclusion to the report that the airport commissioned is a bit dangerous? Come on, people…this is not rocket science. My children and neighbors are living in a potential deadly zone. It is not a question of IF but of WHEN a plane will hit a neighborhood.
Look at the accident stats and you will see that compared to other airports in the nation Palomar has staggering odds. The FAA will not do anything about this unless the county (airport owner) tells them something needs to be done. The Palomar Airport Advisory Committee (PAAC) needs to step up to the plate and get the FAA to do so. They will not listen to our pleas.[/quote]
And if you value your children’s life as the most important thing, and you fear for their safety and fear there is imminent danger, bite the bullet and move out right now. It’s just money for christ sake.
January 15, 2009 at 10:00 PM #330124CoronitaParticipant[quote=jiggy]Yes, that means what it implies–VOLUNTARY. However, Palomar commissioned this study itself and they came to the conclusion that it was the safest route! They advise pilots to follow that route and as I said, the majority do.
Since Palomar is the busiest single runway airport in the nation and since the accident rate is so high, and since there ARE so many homes in the area (regardless of whether or not they should have been built), don’t you believe that NOT following the safety conclusion to the report that the airport commissioned is a bit dangerous? Come on, people…this is not rocket science. My children and neighbors are living in a potential deadly zone. It is not a question of IF but of WHEN a plane will hit a neighborhood.
Look at the accident stats and you will see that compared to other airports in the nation Palomar has staggering odds. The FAA will not do anything about this unless the county (airport owner) tells them something needs to be done. The Palomar Airport Advisory Committee (PAAC) needs to step up to the plate and get the FAA to do so. They will not listen to our pleas.[/quote]
And if you value your children’s life as the most important thing, and you fear for their safety and fear there is imminent danger, bite the bullet and move out right now. It’s just money for christ sake.
January 15, 2009 at 10:00 PM #330152CoronitaParticipant[quote=jiggy]Yes, that means what it implies–VOLUNTARY. However, Palomar commissioned this study itself and they came to the conclusion that it was the safest route! They advise pilots to follow that route and as I said, the majority do.
Since Palomar is the busiest single runway airport in the nation and since the accident rate is so high, and since there ARE so many homes in the area (regardless of whether or not they should have been built), don’t you believe that NOT following the safety conclusion to the report that the airport commissioned is a bit dangerous? Come on, people…this is not rocket science. My children and neighbors are living in a potential deadly zone. It is not a question of IF but of WHEN a plane will hit a neighborhood.
Look at the accident stats and you will see that compared to other airports in the nation Palomar has staggering odds. The FAA will not do anything about this unless the county (airport owner) tells them something needs to be done. The Palomar Airport Advisory Committee (PAAC) needs to step up to the plate and get the FAA to do so. They will not listen to our pleas.[/quote]
And if you value your children’s life as the most important thing, and you fear for their safety and fear there is imminent danger, bite the bullet and move out right now. It’s just money for christ sake.
January 15, 2009 at 10:00 PM #330235CoronitaParticipant[quote=jiggy]Yes, that means what it implies–VOLUNTARY. However, Palomar commissioned this study itself and they came to the conclusion that it was the safest route! They advise pilots to follow that route and as I said, the majority do.
Since Palomar is the busiest single runway airport in the nation and since the accident rate is so high, and since there ARE so many homes in the area (regardless of whether or not they should have been built), don’t you believe that NOT following the safety conclusion to the report that the airport commissioned is a bit dangerous? Come on, people…this is not rocket science. My children and neighbors are living in a potential deadly zone. It is not a question of IF but of WHEN a plane will hit a neighborhood.
Look at the accident stats and you will see that compared to other airports in the nation Palomar has staggering odds. The FAA will not do anything about this unless the county (airport owner) tells them something needs to be done. The Palomar Airport Advisory Committee (PAAC) needs to step up to the plate and get the FAA to do so. They will not listen to our pleas.[/quote]
And if you value your children’s life as the most important thing, and you fear for their safety and fear there is imminent danger, bite the bullet and move out right now. It’s just money for christ sake.
January 16, 2009 at 12:30 AM #329747NewtoSanDiego
GuestThanks for the valuable information on the impact of Palomar airport on surrounding residential areas.
I’m currently looking for a nice 4 BR Single family home in South Carlsbad.
NO WAY IN HELL WOULD I EVEN CONSIDER A HOUSE IN SURROUNDING AREA, SUCH AS BRESSI RANCH!!
I WILL NOT BE PUTTING MY FAMILY AT RISK AND I DON’T WANT MY HOUSE BUZZED BY AIRCRAFT AT ALL HOURS. PEOPLE ARE DUMB TO BUY THERE. (ADDED ALL CAPS FOR EMPHASIS)
THIS SITE IS AN AWESOME SOURCE OF INFORMATION!!!!!
January 16, 2009 at 12:30 AM #330086GuestThanks for the valuable information on the impact of Palomar airport on surrounding residential areas.
I’m currently looking for a nice 4 BR Single family home in South Carlsbad.
NO WAY IN HELL WOULD I EVEN CONSIDER A HOUSE IN SURROUNDING AREA, SUCH AS BRESSI RANCH!!
I WILL NOT BE PUTTING MY FAMILY AT RISK AND I DON’T WANT MY HOUSE BUZZED BY AIRCRAFT AT ALL HOURS. PEOPLE ARE DUMB TO BUY THERE. (ADDED ALL CAPS FOR EMPHASIS)
THIS SITE IS AN AWESOME SOURCE OF INFORMATION!!!!!
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