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January 1, 2011 at 6:08 AM #648005January 1, 2011 at 6:17 AM #646891
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Our kids today have too much homework, and too much TV, computer, and video game time. They do NOT **play** nearly enough to stay healthy, IMHO.
[/quote]a third of 9 month olds are now overwieght or obese. 9 month olds just crawl around. they do not make choices to stay home to play video game vs go biking.
a typical kid would have to bike at over 20 miles per hour for an hour to burn off a big mac. (how many parents buy their kids big mac? A lot. how many kids of yesteryears were enrolled in spin classes? Zero.)
ultimately, it is still THE FOOD!
January 1, 2011 at 6:17 AM #646964Participant[quote=CA renter]
Our kids today have too much homework, and too much TV, computer, and video game time. They do NOT **play** nearly enough to stay healthy, IMHO.
[/quote]a third of 9 month olds are now overwieght or obese. 9 month olds just crawl around. they do not make choices to stay home to play video game vs go biking.
a typical kid would have to bike at over 20 miles per hour for an hour to burn off a big mac. (how many parents buy their kids big mac? A lot. how many kids of yesteryears were enrolled in spin classes? Zero.)
ultimately, it is still THE FOOD!
January 1, 2011 at 6:17 AM #647549Participant[quote=CA renter]
Our kids today have too much homework, and too much TV, computer, and video game time. They do NOT **play** nearly enough to stay healthy, IMHO.
[/quote]a third of 9 month olds are now overwieght or obese. 9 month olds just crawl around. they do not make choices to stay home to play video game vs go biking.
a typical kid would have to bike at over 20 miles per hour for an hour to burn off a big mac. (how many parents buy their kids big mac? A lot. how many kids of yesteryears were enrolled in spin classes? Zero.)
ultimately, it is still THE FOOD!
January 1, 2011 at 6:17 AM #647685Participant[quote=CA renter]
Our kids today have too much homework, and too much TV, computer, and video game time. They do NOT **play** nearly enough to stay healthy, IMHO.
[/quote]a third of 9 month olds are now overwieght or obese. 9 month olds just crawl around. they do not make choices to stay home to play video game vs go biking.
a typical kid would have to bike at over 20 miles per hour for an hour to burn off a big mac. (how many parents buy their kids big mac? A lot. how many kids of yesteryears were enrolled in spin classes? Zero.)
ultimately, it is still THE FOOD!
January 1, 2011 at 6:17 AM #648010Participant[quote=CA renter]
Our kids today have too much homework, and too much TV, computer, and video game time. They do NOT **play** nearly enough to stay healthy, IMHO.
[/quote]a third of 9 month olds are now overwieght or obese. 9 month olds just crawl around. they do not make choices to stay home to play video game vs go biking.
a typical kid would have to bike at over 20 miles per hour for an hour to burn off a big mac. (how many parents buy their kids big mac? A lot. how many kids of yesteryears were enrolled in spin classes? Zero.)
ultimately, it is still THE FOOD!
January 1, 2011 at 10:51 AM #646931bearishgurl
Participantocrenter, I agree that there are many more fast food offerings now than in times past. The ff “combos” in particular are very large helpings and a big “profit center” for ff chains. In the past, the business model at the 3 or 4 existing ff chains was like “In & Out Burger.” There were only a handful of choices a-la-carte and no “combos.”
I, too, believe that most chain-restaurant offerings are laden with fat, sugar and calories, in order to pass the majority “taste test.” There’s nothing the individual consumer can do about this.
But I also believe that everyone has the ability to control themselves in this “land of abundance.”
The obesity epidemic in children is mostly the fault of lazy and too-indulgent parents who do not set good examples themselves.
Just because when you sit down at Chili’s with your group of people, there is always a 5000-calorie pile of onion rings in the middle of the table, doesn’t mean you have to avail yourself of them.
You can also walk around a house party or public happy hour with a wine cooler or highball glass in your hand with seltzer water and lime in it. No one would be the wiser. You don’t have to drink 100+ calorie per oz shots all night with sweet mixer(s) just because they’re “two for one” or you’re going to stay the night, anyway. You have to know what to stay away from and what not to eat if put on your plate by a host (i.e. poultry skin, etc).
Whenever I was taken out to fast food as a kid (abt 10x per yr), we were only allowed to order a reg hamburger. Sometimes, my parent(s) could get five for $1. French fries were about .25. OCCASIONALLY, we could get a shake. On the menu, there were 3 sizes of hamburgers, a fish sandwich, french fries, shakes, colas, lemonade and apple pie and that was the end of the menu. No “happy meals,” no toys and no combos.
CAR mentioned getting up to turn a knob to turn on the TV and change the channel. We had 4-5 stations to choose from. “Rabbit ears,” sitting on top of the TV, frequently had to be turned or adjusted to eliminate “snow” and allow the “independent” channel to come in. When I was 12-13 years old, we got our first “color TV.” It was a 250-lb “Zenith” console with a 25″ square green screen, mahogany cabinet and a red/green color-adjustment panel. Of course, “remote controls” didn’t exist back then. This set my dad back $500 (about half a months pay) :=]
January 1, 2011 at 10:51 AM #647004Participantocrenter, I agree that there are many more fast food offerings now than in times past. The ff “combos” in particular are very large helpings and a big “profit center” for ff chains. In the past, the business model at the 3 or 4 existing ff chains was like “In & Out Burger.” There were only a handful of choices a-la-carte and no “combos.”
I, too, believe that most chain-restaurant offerings are laden with fat, sugar and calories, in order to pass the majority “taste test.” There’s nothing the individual consumer can do about this.
But I also believe that everyone has the ability to control themselves in this “land of abundance.”
The obesity epidemic in children is mostly the fault of lazy and too-indulgent parents who do not set good examples themselves.
Just because when you sit down at Chili’s with your group of people, there is always a 5000-calorie pile of onion rings in the middle of the table, doesn’t mean you have to avail yourself of them.
You can also walk around a house party or public happy hour with a wine cooler or highball glass in your hand with seltzer water and lime in it. No one would be the wiser. You don’t have to drink 100+ calorie per oz shots all night with sweet mixer(s) just because they’re “two for one” or you’re going to stay the night, anyway. You have to know what to stay away from and what not to eat if put on your plate by a host (i.e. poultry skin, etc).
Whenever I was taken out to fast food as a kid (abt 10x per yr), we were only allowed to order a reg hamburger. Sometimes, my parent(s) could get five for $1. French fries were about .25. OCCASIONALLY, we could get a shake. On the menu, there were 3 sizes of hamburgers, a fish sandwich, french fries, shakes, colas, lemonade and apple pie and that was the end of the menu. No “happy meals,” no toys and no combos.
CAR mentioned getting up to turn a knob to turn on the TV and change the channel. We had 4-5 stations to choose from. “Rabbit ears,” sitting on top of the TV, frequently had to be turned or adjusted to eliminate “snow” and allow the “independent” channel to come in. When I was 12-13 years old, we got our first “color TV.” It was a 250-lb “Zenith” console with a 25″ square green screen, mahogany cabinet and a red/green color-adjustment panel. Of course, “remote controls” didn’t exist back then. This set my dad back $500 (about half a months pay) :=]
January 1, 2011 at 10:51 AM #647589Participantocrenter, I agree that there are many more fast food offerings now than in times past. The ff “combos” in particular are very large helpings and a big “profit center” for ff chains. In the past, the business model at the 3 or 4 existing ff chains was like “In & Out Burger.” There were only a handful of choices a-la-carte and no “combos.”
I, too, believe that most chain-restaurant offerings are laden with fat, sugar and calories, in order to pass the majority “taste test.” There’s nothing the individual consumer can do about this.
But I also believe that everyone has the ability to control themselves in this “land of abundance.”
The obesity epidemic in children is mostly the fault of lazy and too-indulgent parents who do not set good examples themselves.
Just because when you sit down at Chili’s with your group of people, there is always a 5000-calorie pile of onion rings in the middle of the table, doesn’t mean you have to avail yourself of them.
You can also walk around a house party or public happy hour with a wine cooler or highball glass in your hand with seltzer water and lime in it. No one would be the wiser. You don’t have to drink 100+ calorie per oz shots all night with sweet mixer(s) just because they’re “two for one” or you’re going to stay the night, anyway. You have to know what to stay away from and what not to eat if put on your plate by a host (i.e. poultry skin, etc).
Whenever I was taken out to fast food as a kid (abt 10x per yr), we were only allowed to order a reg hamburger. Sometimes, my parent(s) could get five for $1. French fries were about .25. OCCASIONALLY, we could get a shake. On the menu, there were 3 sizes of hamburgers, a fish sandwich, french fries, shakes, colas, lemonade and apple pie and that was the end of the menu. No “happy meals,” no toys and no combos.
CAR mentioned getting up to turn a knob to turn on the TV and change the channel. We had 4-5 stations to choose from. “Rabbit ears,” sitting on top of the TV, frequently had to be turned or adjusted to eliminate “snow” and allow the “independent” channel to come in. When I was 12-13 years old, we got our first “color TV.” It was a 250-lb “Zenith” console with a 25″ square green screen, mahogany cabinet and a red/green color-adjustment panel. Of course, “remote controls” didn’t exist back then. This set my dad back $500 (about half a months pay) :=]
January 1, 2011 at 10:51 AM #647726Participantocrenter, I agree that there are many more fast food offerings now than in times past. The ff “combos” in particular are very large helpings and a big “profit center” for ff chains. In the past, the business model at the 3 or 4 existing ff chains was like “In & Out Burger.” There were only a handful of choices a-la-carte and no “combos.”
I, too, believe that most chain-restaurant offerings are laden with fat, sugar and calories, in order to pass the majority “taste test.” There’s nothing the individual consumer can do about this.
But I also believe that everyone has the ability to control themselves in this “land of abundance.”
The obesity epidemic in children is mostly the fault of lazy and too-indulgent parents who do not set good examples themselves.
Just because when you sit down at Chili’s with your group of people, there is always a 5000-calorie pile of onion rings in the middle of the table, doesn’t mean you have to avail yourself of them.
You can also walk around a house party or public happy hour with a wine cooler or highball glass in your hand with seltzer water and lime in it. No one would be the wiser. You don’t have to drink 100+ calorie per oz shots all night with sweet mixer(s) just because they’re “two for one” or you’re going to stay the night, anyway. You have to know what to stay away from and what not to eat if put on your plate by a host (i.e. poultry skin, etc).
Whenever I was taken out to fast food as a kid (abt 10x per yr), we were only allowed to order a reg hamburger. Sometimes, my parent(s) could get five for $1. French fries were about .25. OCCASIONALLY, we could get a shake. On the menu, there were 3 sizes of hamburgers, a fish sandwich, french fries, shakes, colas, lemonade and apple pie and that was the end of the menu. No “happy meals,” no toys and no combos.
CAR mentioned getting up to turn a knob to turn on the TV and change the channel. We had 4-5 stations to choose from. “Rabbit ears,” sitting on top of the TV, frequently had to be turned or adjusted to eliminate “snow” and allow the “independent” channel to come in. When I was 12-13 years old, we got our first “color TV.” It was a 250-lb “Zenith” console with a 25″ square green screen, mahogany cabinet and a red/green color-adjustment panel. Of course, “remote controls” didn’t exist back then. This set my dad back $500 (about half a months pay) :=]
January 1, 2011 at 10:51 AM #648050Participantocrenter, I agree that there are many more fast food offerings now than in times past. The ff “combos” in particular are very large helpings and a big “profit center” for ff chains. In the past, the business model at the 3 or 4 existing ff chains was like “In & Out Burger.” There were only a handful of choices a-la-carte and no “combos.”
I, too, believe that most chain-restaurant offerings are laden with fat, sugar and calories, in order to pass the majority “taste test.” There’s nothing the individual consumer can do about this.
But I also believe that everyone has the ability to control themselves in this “land of abundance.”
The obesity epidemic in children is mostly the fault of lazy and too-indulgent parents who do not set good examples themselves.
Just because when you sit down at Chili’s with your group of people, there is always a 5000-calorie pile of onion rings in the middle of the table, doesn’t mean you have to avail yourself of them.
You can also walk around a house party or public happy hour with a wine cooler or highball glass in your hand with seltzer water and lime in it. No one would be the wiser. You don’t have to drink 100+ calorie per oz shots all night with sweet mixer(s) just because they’re “two for one” or you’re going to stay the night, anyway. You have to know what to stay away from and what not to eat if put on your plate by a host (i.e. poultry skin, etc).
Whenever I was taken out to fast food as a kid (abt 10x per yr), we were only allowed to order a reg hamburger. Sometimes, my parent(s) could get five for $1. French fries were about .25. OCCASIONALLY, we could get a shake. On the menu, there were 3 sizes of hamburgers, a fish sandwich, french fries, shakes, colas, lemonade and apple pie and that was the end of the menu. No “happy meals,” no toys and no combos.
CAR mentioned getting up to turn a knob to turn on the TV and change the channel. We had 4-5 stations to choose from. “Rabbit ears,” sitting on top of the TV, frequently had to be turned or adjusted to eliminate “snow” and allow the “independent” channel to come in. When I was 12-13 years old, we got our first “color TV.” It was a 250-lb “Zenith” console with a 25″ square green screen, mahogany cabinet and a red/green color-adjustment panel. Of course, “remote controls” didn’t exist back then. This set my dad back $500 (about half a months pay) :=]
January 1, 2011 at 11:34 AM #646936Participantof course we can all do our best to limit consumption.
but that’s also like telling buyers during the peak of the bubble not to buy. of course it was personal responsibility ultimately, but how many exercised personal responsibility and how many actually thought it through and resisted the urge to buy?
same thing here, of course ultimately it boils down to personal responsibility. but how many are listening about the need to fight and resist the cheap food?
What is scary here we have the additional element of chemical dependency. The cheap food and high calorie does create a cheap HIGH followed by emotional LOW. This is the perfect set up for addiction pattern. So if someone learns this pattern at childhood, you are looking at an addictive pattern that will be extremely hard to correct. even if that person knows full well of the need to make changes.
The pattern of obesity and food addiction is very similar compared to other addictions. Just like addicts moving in and out of rehabs, most people with weight issues move in and out of diets. And the only explaination here is the food is now a lot more potent at activating the pleasure pathway and it is also a whole lot cheaper. Like I said before, cocaine was much less of an issue before some guy figured out how to make it into cheap crack.
As to your price comparison to before, there were no remotes in the 70’s, so I’ll assume 25 cent fries were 70’s prices as well. Adjusted for inflation you are looking at $1.5 which is pricier compared to today. Plus the amount of fries per serving has increased dramatically as well. Remember, child size hamburger of today was the regular sized hamburger of yesteryears.
I understand what you are trying to say about children being less active and how folks are glued to the TV. Fitness and an active lifestyle is extremely important. But again, while there are a lot of other important issues that promote the obesity crisis, the number one issue that dramatically altered the landscape is still the change in food.
January 1, 2011 at 11:34 AM #647009Participantof course we can all do our best to limit consumption.
but that’s also like telling buyers during the peak of the bubble not to buy. of course it was personal responsibility ultimately, but how many exercised personal responsibility and how many actually thought it through and resisted the urge to buy?
same thing here, of course ultimately it boils down to personal responsibility. but how many are listening about the need to fight and resist the cheap food?
What is scary here we have the additional element of chemical dependency. The cheap food and high calorie does create a cheap HIGH followed by emotional LOW. This is the perfect set up for addiction pattern. So if someone learns this pattern at childhood, you are looking at an addictive pattern that will be extremely hard to correct. even if that person knows full well of the need to make changes.
The pattern of obesity and food addiction is very similar compared to other addictions. Just like addicts moving in and out of rehabs, most people with weight issues move in and out of diets. And the only explaination here is the food is now a lot more potent at activating the pleasure pathway and it is also a whole lot cheaper. Like I said before, cocaine was much less of an issue before some guy figured out how to make it into cheap crack.
As to your price comparison to before, there were no remotes in the 70’s, so I’ll assume 25 cent fries were 70’s prices as well. Adjusted for inflation you are looking at $1.5 which is pricier compared to today. Plus the amount of fries per serving has increased dramatically as well. Remember, child size hamburger of today was the regular sized hamburger of yesteryears.
I understand what you are trying to say about children being less active and how folks are glued to the TV. Fitness and an active lifestyle is extremely important. But again, while there are a lot of other important issues that promote the obesity crisis, the number one issue that dramatically altered the landscape is still the change in food.
January 1, 2011 at 11:34 AM #647594Participantof course we can all do our best to limit consumption.
but that’s also like telling buyers during the peak of the bubble not to buy. of course it was personal responsibility ultimately, but how many exercised personal responsibility and how many actually thought it through and resisted the urge to buy?
same thing here, of course ultimately it boils down to personal responsibility. but how many are listening about the need to fight and resist the cheap food?
What is scary here we have the additional element of chemical dependency. The cheap food and high calorie does create a cheap HIGH followed by emotional LOW. This is the perfect set up for addiction pattern. So if someone learns this pattern at childhood, you are looking at an addictive pattern that will be extremely hard to correct. even if that person knows full well of the need to make changes.
The pattern of obesity and food addiction is very similar compared to other addictions. Just like addicts moving in and out of rehabs, most people with weight issues move in and out of diets. And the only explaination here is the food is now a lot more potent at activating the pleasure pathway and it is also a whole lot cheaper. Like I said before, cocaine was much less of an issue before some guy figured out how to make it into cheap crack.
As to your price comparison to before, there were no remotes in the 70’s, so I’ll assume 25 cent fries were 70’s prices as well. Adjusted for inflation you are looking at $1.5 which is pricier compared to today. Plus the amount of fries per serving has increased dramatically as well. Remember, child size hamburger of today was the regular sized hamburger of yesteryears.
I understand what you are trying to say about children being less active and how folks are glued to the TV. Fitness and an active lifestyle is extremely important. But again, while there are a lot of other important issues that promote the obesity crisis, the number one issue that dramatically altered the landscape is still the change in food.
January 1, 2011 at 11:34 AM #647731Participantof course we can all do our best to limit consumption.
but that’s also like telling buyers during the peak of the bubble not to buy. of course it was personal responsibility ultimately, but how many exercised personal responsibility and how many actually thought it through and resisted the urge to buy?
same thing here, of course ultimately it boils down to personal responsibility. but how many are listening about the need to fight and resist the cheap food?
What is scary here we have the additional element of chemical dependency. The cheap food and high calorie does create a cheap HIGH followed by emotional LOW. This is the perfect set up for addiction pattern. So if someone learns this pattern at childhood, you are looking at an addictive pattern that will be extremely hard to correct. even if that person knows full well of the need to make changes.
The pattern of obesity and food addiction is very similar compared to other addictions. Just like addicts moving in and out of rehabs, most people with weight issues move in and out of diets. And the only explaination here is the food is now a lot more potent at activating the pleasure pathway and it is also a whole lot cheaper. Like I said before, cocaine was much less of an issue before some guy figured out how to make it into cheap crack.
As to your price comparison to before, there were no remotes in the 70’s, so I’ll assume 25 cent fries were 70’s prices as well. Adjusted for inflation you are looking at $1.5 which is pricier compared to today. Plus the amount of fries per serving has increased dramatically as well. Remember, child size hamburger of today was the regular sized hamburger of yesteryears.
I understand what you are trying to say about children being less active and how folks are glued to the TV. Fitness and an active lifestyle is extremely important. But again, while there are a lot of other important issues that promote the obesity crisis, the number one issue that dramatically altered the landscape is still the change in food.
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