huge topic:Americans keep getting fatter

[briansd1]

[quote=CA renter]In many cases, what you’re advocating would be unrealistic. Some people would have to be malnourished in order to be thin. While you might not have a problem doing that to your dogs, I’m sure most people would not be willing to do that to themselves or their children.[/quote]

I don’t dispute that it’s hard to do just like it’s hard to save rather than spend or to study instead of play.

But that’s part of personal responsibility. Once you do it, it comes naturally.

The thing is that you don’t need to be malnourished or even hungry to be thin. There are plenty of nutrition-dense but low calorie food items:

– Plain boiled beans and lentils
– whole grain such as plain oat meal
– Egg whites
– Tofu
– Taro and other types of roots
– Plain salads with out dressing
– Lean meats

People who gain weight easily have to completely give up low-nutrition, empty calories (things not available to humans in the jungle).

– Sauces
– beer
– soda
– processed/package products
– ice cream
– cakes or anything made with flour
– bacon
– sugar
– sodium/nitrates

If people don’t buy the junk, the kids can’t eat it.

If you’re hungry, eat a bowl of plain oat meal with an apple and a banana. Or eat some boiled taro roots as an afternoon snack.

People have to live within their means (the cards that they’ve been dealt) and make the best of it.

It comes down to plain old responsibility. Don’t be a victim of your environment.

My older brother is growing fat because of his environment. He married a girl from the midwest and their diet is bad. For example, he loves sushi rolls drenched in sauces. I won’t eat it because it’s bad for you and neither real Japanese nor sushi.

So, yeah, I think that it’s good to be “vain and elitist” if that keeps you thin, healthy and goodlooking. Why not?

I recommend this book:

[briansd1]

[quote=walterwhite]malnourished? no. unhappy and hungry? yes.[/quote]

Happiness is all a state of mind.

If you need to eat what everybody else is eating in order to be happy then it’s a personal problem.

I can see how not being socially included would make a person unhappy. But you can just make up some excuses and take only one or two bites, or fill your plate with salad.

When going out, split the bill evenly even if you eat the cheaper, healthier dish.

[briansd1]

[quote=walterwhite]malnourished? no. unhappy and hungry? yes.[/quote]

Happiness is all a state of mind.

If you need to eat what everybody else is eating in order to be happy then it’s a personal problem.

I can see how not being socially included would make a person unhappy. But you can just make up some excuses and take only one or two bites, or fill your plate with salad.

When going out, split the bill evenly even if you eat the cheaper, healthier dish.

[briansd1]

[quote=walterwhite]malnourished? no. unhappy and hungry? yes.[/quote]

Happiness is all a state of mind.

If you need to eat what everybody else is eating in order to be happy then it’s a personal problem.

I can see how not being socially included would make a person unhappy. But you can just make up some excuses and take only one or two bites, or fill your plate with salad.

When going out, split the bill evenly even if you eat the cheaper, healthier dish.

[briansd1]

[quote=walterwhite]malnourished? no. unhappy and hungry? yes.[/quote]

Happiness is all a state of mind.

If you need to eat what everybody else is eating in order to be happy then it’s a personal problem.

I can see how not being socially included would make a person unhappy. But you can just make up some excuses and take only one or two bites, or fill your plate with salad.

When going out, split the bill evenly even if you eat the cheaper, healthier dish.

[briansd1]

[quote=walterwhite]malnourished? no. unhappy and hungry? yes.[/quote]

Happiness is all a state of mind.

If you need to eat what everybody else is eating in order to be happy then it’s a personal problem.

I can see how not being socially included would make a person unhappy. But you can just make up some excuses and take only one or two bites, or fill your plate with salad.

When going out, split the bill evenly even if you eat the cheaper, healthier dish.

[CBad]

I can’t say I know any thin people who eat a lot of bad food AND don’t exercise unless they are kids/teenagers/very young adults. That behavior just doesn’t work when you are an adult unless you have a rare metabolism. Also, people I know who are thin and say they either eat a lot or you see them eat a lot at times, they typically in an entire day or week don’t really eat that much. And in my experience, people who are thin and don’t work out usually move their butts around all day long. They might not officially ‘work out’ but they burn calories all day by always being on the move.

Of the overweight people I know who are healthy, they have healthy habits but just have never lost the extra weight that they gained at some point. I think that if they did a strict diet/exercise program to lose the weight and then went back to their normal healthy ways they would maintain. Also, of the ones that I know, I don’t think they are 100% honest about all of their habits. They discount things like alcohol or celebration food. Or, if they exercise or do something active that day, they are absolutely DONE with anything physical for the rest of the day and sit or lay around like they’ve earned that down time. They seem to be mostly sedentary apart from their workouts.

Just my experience. It’s always enlightening to camp with people and see their true habits over several days.

[CBad]

I can’t say I know any thin people who eat a lot of bad food AND don’t exercise unless they are kids/teenagers/very young adults. That behavior just doesn’t work when you are an adult unless you have a rare metabolism. Also, people I know who are thin and say they either eat a lot or you see them eat a lot at times, they typically in an entire day or week don’t really eat that much. And in my experience, people who are thin and don’t work out usually move their butts around all day long. They might not officially ‘work out’ but they burn calories all day by always being on the move.

Of the overweight people I know who are healthy, they have healthy habits but just have never lost the extra weight that they gained at some point. I think that if they did a strict diet/exercise program to lose the weight and then went back to their normal healthy ways they would maintain. Also, of the ones that I know, I don’t think they are 100% honest about all of their habits. They discount things like alcohol or celebration food. Or, if they exercise or do something active that day, they are absolutely DONE with anything physical for the rest of the day and sit or lay around like they’ve earned that down time. They seem to be mostly sedentary apart from their workouts.

Just my experience. It’s always enlightening to camp with people and see their true habits over several days.

[CBad]

I can’t say I know any thin people who eat a lot of bad food AND don’t exercise unless they are kids/teenagers/very young adults. That behavior just doesn’t work when you are an adult unless you have a rare metabolism. Also, people I know who are thin and say they either eat a lot or you see them eat a lot at times, they typically in an entire day or week don’t really eat that much. And in my experience, people who are thin and don’t work out usually move their butts around all day long. They might not officially ‘work out’ but they burn calories all day by always being on the move.

Of the overweight people I know who are healthy, they have healthy habits but just have never lost the extra weight that they gained at some point. I think that if they did a strict diet/exercise program to lose the weight and then went back to their normal healthy ways they would maintain. Also, of the ones that I know, I don’t think they are 100% honest about all of their habits. They discount things like alcohol or celebration food. Or, if they exercise or do something active that day, they are absolutely DONE with anything physical for the rest of the day and sit or lay around like they’ve earned that down time. They seem to be mostly sedentary apart from their workouts.

Just my experience. It’s always enlightening to camp with people and see their true habits over several days.

[CBad]

I can’t say I know any thin people who eat a lot of bad food AND don’t exercise unless they are kids/teenagers/very young adults. That behavior just doesn’t work when you are an adult unless you have a rare metabolism. Also, people I know who are thin and say they either eat a lot or you see them eat a lot at times, they typically in an entire day or week don’t really eat that much. And in my experience, people who are thin and don’t work out usually move their butts around all day long. They might not officially ‘work out’ but they burn calories all day by always being on the move.

Of the overweight people I know who are healthy, they have healthy habits but just have never lost the extra weight that they gained at some point. I think that if they did a strict diet/exercise program to lose the weight and then went back to their normal healthy ways they would maintain. Also, of the ones that I know, I don’t think they are 100% honest about all of their habits. They discount things like alcohol or celebration food. Or, if they exercise or do something active that day, they are absolutely DONE with anything physical for the rest of the day and sit or lay around like they’ve earned that down time. They seem to be mostly sedentary apart from their workouts.

Just my experience. It’s always enlightening to camp with people and see their true habits over several days.

[CBad]

I can’t say I know any thin people who eat a lot of bad food AND don’t exercise unless they are kids/teenagers/very young adults. That behavior just doesn’t work when you are an adult unless you have a rare metabolism. Also, people I know who are thin and say they either eat a lot or you see them eat a lot at times, they typically in an entire day or week don’t really eat that much. And in my experience, people who are thin and don’t work out usually move their butts around all day long. They might not officially ‘work out’ but they burn calories all day by always being on the move.

Of the overweight people I know who are healthy, they have healthy habits but just have never lost the extra weight that they gained at some point. I think that if they did a strict diet/exercise program to lose the weight and then went back to their normal healthy ways they would maintain. Also, of the ones that I know, I don’t think they are 100% honest about all of their habits. They discount things like alcohol or celebration food. Or, if they exercise or do something active that day, they are absolutely DONE with anything physical for the rest of the day and sit or lay around like they’ve earned that down time. They seem to be mostly sedentary apart from their workouts.

Just my experience. It’s always enlightening to camp with people and see their true habits over several days.

[ocrenter]

[quote=CBad]I can’t say I know any thin people who eat a lot of bad food AND don’t exercise unless they are kids/teenagers/very young adults. That behavior just doesn’t work when you are an adult unless you have a rare metabolism. [/quote]

one interesting group to look at are former athletes, professional or college/high school or former military.

these folks tend to eat badly but because of the physical demand of their sports/job they stay normal sized… until they get out of the sport/retire from military/raise up to command positions. then they just balloon up like no tomorrow.

[quote=CBad]
Of the overweight people I know who are healthy, they have healthy habits but just have never lost the extra weight that they gained at some point. I think that if they did a strict diet/exercise program to lose the weight and then went back to their normal healthy ways they would maintain.
[/quote]

I agree, once the metabolism resets, very difficult to lose the weight gained from prior dietary indiscretions.

One other issue is people always preceive themselves to be normal when they are actually overweight. slightly plum really means obese. and need to drop a few lbs often means the need to drop 100.

body mass index remains the gold standard. the key to remember is 10-15 lbs over normal is not that bad at all. so if you say you are overweight by 10-15 lbs via the body mass index, I completely agree that is perfectly fine and you probably are even healthier than a person at ideal body weight.

THE PROBLEM IS MOST PEOPLE THAT CLAIM “OVERWEIGHT STATUS” IS REALLY MORBIDLY OBESE ON THE BMI SCALE.

[ocrenter]

[quote=CBad]I can’t say I know any thin people who eat a lot of bad food AND don’t exercise unless they are kids/teenagers/very young adults. That behavior just doesn’t work when you are an adult unless you have a rare metabolism. [/quote]

one interesting group to look at are former athletes, professional or college/high school or former military.

these folks tend to eat badly but because of the physical demand of their sports/job they stay normal sized… until they get out of the sport/retire from military/raise up to command positions. then they just balloon up like no tomorrow.

[quote=CBad]
Of the overweight people I know who are healthy, they have healthy habits but just have never lost the extra weight that they gained at some point. I think that if they did a strict diet/exercise program to lose the weight and then went back to their normal healthy ways they would maintain.
[/quote]

I agree, once the metabolism resets, very difficult to lose the weight gained from prior dietary indiscretions.

One other issue is people always preceive themselves to be normal when they are actually overweight. slightly plum really means obese. and need to drop a few lbs often means the need to drop 100.

body mass index remains the gold standard. the key to remember is 10-15 lbs over normal is not that bad at all. so if you say you are overweight by 10-15 lbs via the body mass index, I completely agree that is perfectly fine and you probably are even healthier than a person at ideal body weight.

THE PROBLEM IS MOST PEOPLE THAT CLAIM “OVERWEIGHT STATUS” IS REALLY MORBIDLY OBESE ON THE BMI SCALE.

[ocrenter]

[quote=CBad]I can’t say I know any thin people who eat a lot of bad food AND don’t exercise unless they are kids/teenagers/very young adults. That behavior just doesn’t work when you are an adult unless you have a rare metabolism. [/quote]

one interesting group to look at are former athletes, professional or college/high school or former military.

these folks tend to eat badly but because of the physical demand of their sports/job they stay normal sized… until they get out of the sport/retire from military/raise up to command positions. then they just balloon up like no tomorrow.

[quote=CBad]
Of the overweight people I know who are healthy, they have healthy habits but just have never lost the extra weight that they gained at some point. I think that if they did a strict diet/exercise program to lose the weight and then went back to their normal healthy ways they would maintain.
[/quote]

I agree, once the metabolism resets, very difficult to lose the weight gained from prior dietary indiscretions.

One other issue is people always preceive themselves to be normal when they are actually overweight. slightly plum really means obese. and need to drop a few lbs often means the need to drop 100.

body mass index remains the gold standard. the key to remember is 10-15 lbs over normal is not that bad at all. so if you say you are overweight by 10-15 lbs via the body mass index, I completely agree that is perfectly fine and you probably are even healthier than a person at ideal body weight.

THE PROBLEM IS MOST PEOPLE THAT CLAIM “OVERWEIGHT STATUS” IS REALLY MORBIDLY OBESE ON THE BMI SCALE.

[ocrenter]

[quote=CBad]I can’t say I know any thin people who eat a lot of bad food AND don’t exercise unless they are kids/teenagers/very young adults. That behavior just doesn’t work when you are an adult unless you have a rare metabolism. [/quote]

one interesting group to look at are former athletes, professional or college/high school or former military.

these folks tend to eat badly but because of the physical demand of their sports/job they stay normal sized… until they get out of the sport/retire from military/raise up to command positions. then they just balloon up like no tomorrow.

[quote=CBad]
Of the overweight people I know who are healthy, they have healthy habits but just have never lost the extra weight that they gained at some point. I think that if they did a strict diet/exercise program to lose the weight and then went back to their normal healthy ways they would maintain.
[/quote]

I agree, once the metabolism resets, very difficult to lose the weight gained from prior dietary indiscretions.

One other issue is people always preceive themselves to be normal when they are actually overweight. slightly plum really means obese. and need to drop a few lbs often means the need to drop 100.

body mass index remains the gold standard. the key to remember is 10-15 lbs over normal is not that bad at all. so if you say you are overweight by 10-15 lbs via the body mass index, I completely agree that is perfectly fine and you probably are even healthier than a person at ideal body weight.

THE PROBLEM IS MOST PEOPLE THAT CLAIM “OVERWEIGHT STATUS” IS REALLY MORBIDLY OBESE ON THE BMI SCALE.

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