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November 13, 2009 at 9:50 AM #483097November 13, 2009 at 10:04 AM #482258CoronitaParticipant
[quote=dbapig][quote=flu]
Why don’t we just regulate everyone’s pay. What is the fascination of of someone else’s pay? [/quote]Flu, we are NOT talking about regulating someone’s pay. We want a good education for our kids, our future. And it’s obvious that good pay would help draw good teachers which would improve education.
You got any good ideas for improving the education system?[/quote]
Sure.
1)Spend time educating your own kid. It’s more effective than “outsourcing” it to someone else anyway.
2)Follow how the education system is setup in asia, where kids need to pass entrance exams to get into the “best” public schools. Then take your “best” teachers and put them in those top schools and pay them more than your not so best schools.
Therefore, kids and teachers that care and want to do well get rewarded for it. Kids/teachers that dont give a rats well, they can get left behind and/or make less.
This would also solve the social/economic issue wrto education here in the U.S.
1)If you’re a smart/hardworking kid you get into the best schools regardless of economic background you are from. This eliminates the issue with kids coming from a poor family otherwise smart/hard working not having access to the “best” public schools in the U.S. Unfortunately, good education is tied too much to private money, and because public education is essentially “socialized”, everyone one else who doesn’t pay for private education gets the same generic material regardless of kid’s capabilities. This no-kid-left-behind thing, I think is a big problem, because it put too much emphasis on bringing bottom people up to average and not doing anything for top people.
2)If you’re a not-so-stellar kid/kid that dont care/or not so smart, well then your fall backplan is to fallback into a lesser school and/or if you have rich(er) parents that can “buy” your education for you at a private school.
3)If you’re a parent with a kid that isn’t #1 and you arent financially at #2, then well you fall back on #3 which is you spend your own time teaching your kids.
Note though: of course does not apply to kids with special ed needs. There should be schools setup specifically for this obviously.
However, fundamentally this arrangement would be viewed by many as a problem. Many would probably complain about this being “elitist”, though I’m still wondering why when it comes to sports, why can’t professional sports be regulated this way with a “no player left behind approach” and have every team play like the San Diego Chargers. Hence, this is why I feel, our education system will never be fixed. And the tradition will continue….money can buy better education here in the U.S…And why some parents will buy homes with better public schools or send them private. Because in the same area, parents with more financial means will pony up to support a higher standard.
Case in point: Carmel Valley school district parents pretty much dumped donation after donation into saving all those ESD extracurric programs when the district announced a budget shortfall and those programs/teachers would have to be cut. Because of parental donations, those teachers/jobs/classes were saved.
November 13, 2009 at 10:04 AM #482428CoronitaParticipant[quote=dbapig][quote=flu]
Why don’t we just regulate everyone’s pay. What is the fascination of of someone else’s pay? [/quote]Flu, we are NOT talking about regulating someone’s pay. We want a good education for our kids, our future. And it’s obvious that good pay would help draw good teachers which would improve education.
You got any good ideas for improving the education system?[/quote]
Sure.
1)Spend time educating your own kid. It’s more effective than “outsourcing” it to someone else anyway.
2)Follow how the education system is setup in asia, where kids need to pass entrance exams to get into the “best” public schools. Then take your “best” teachers and put them in those top schools and pay them more than your not so best schools.
Therefore, kids and teachers that care and want to do well get rewarded for it. Kids/teachers that dont give a rats well, they can get left behind and/or make less.
This would also solve the social/economic issue wrto education here in the U.S.
1)If you’re a smart/hardworking kid you get into the best schools regardless of economic background you are from. This eliminates the issue with kids coming from a poor family otherwise smart/hard working not having access to the “best” public schools in the U.S. Unfortunately, good education is tied too much to private money, and because public education is essentially “socialized”, everyone one else who doesn’t pay for private education gets the same generic material regardless of kid’s capabilities. This no-kid-left-behind thing, I think is a big problem, because it put too much emphasis on bringing bottom people up to average and not doing anything for top people.
2)If you’re a not-so-stellar kid/kid that dont care/or not so smart, well then your fall backplan is to fallback into a lesser school and/or if you have rich(er) parents that can “buy” your education for you at a private school.
3)If you’re a parent with a kid that isn’t #1 and you arent financially at #2, then well you fall back on #3 which is you spend your own time teaching your kids.
Note though: of course does not apply to kids with special ed needs. There should be schools setup specifically for this obviously.
However, fundamentally this arrangement would be viewed by many as a problem. Many would probably complain about this being “elitist”, though I’m still wondering why when it comes to sports, why can’t professional sports be regulated this way with a “no player left behind approach” and have every team play like the San Diego Chargers. Hence, this is why I feel, our education system will never be fixed. And the tradition will continue….money can buy better education here in the U.S…And why some parents will buy homes with better public schools or send them private. Because in the same area, parents with more financial means will pony up to support a higher standard.
Case in point: Carmel Valley school district parents pretty much dumped donation after donation into saving all those ESD extracurric programs when the district announced a budget shortfall and those programs/teachers would have to be cut. Because of parental donations, those teachers/jobs/classes were saved.
November 13, 2009 at 10:04 AM #482796CoronitaParticipant[quote=dbapig][quote=flu]
Why don’t we just regulate everyone’s pay. What is the fascination of of someone else’s pay? [/quote]Flu, we are NOT talking about regulating someone’s pay. We want a good education for our kids, our future. And it’s obvious that good pay would help draw good teachers which would improve education.
You got any good ideas for improving the education system?[/quote]
Sure.
1)Spend time educating your own kid. It’s more effective than “outsourcing” it to someone else anyway.
2)Follow how the education system is setup in asia, where kids need to pass entrance exams to get into the “best” public schools. Then take your “best” teachers and put them in those top schools and pay them more than your not so best schools.
Therefore, kids and teachers that care and want to do well get rewarded for it. Kids/teachers that dont give a rats well, they can get left behind and/or make less.
This would also solve the social/economic issue wrto education here in the U.S.
1)If you’re a smart/hardworking kid you get into the best schools regardless of economic background you are from. This eliminates the issue with kids coming from a poor family otherwise smart/hard working not having access to the “best” public schools in the U.S. Unfortunately, good education is tied too much to private money, and because public education is essentially “socialized”, everyone one else who doesn’t pay for private education gets the same generic material regardless of kid’s capabilities. This no-kid-left-behind thing, I think is a big problem, because it put too much emphasis on bringing bottom people up to average and not doing anything for top people.
2)If you’re a not-so-stellar kid/kid that dont care/or not so smart, well then your fall backplan is to fallback into a lesser school and/or if you have rich(er) parents that can “buy” your education for you at a private school.
3)If you’re a parent with a kid that isn’t #1 and you arent financially at #2, then well you fall back on #3 which is you spend your own time teaching your kids.
Note though: of course does not apply to kids with special ed needs. There should be schools setup specifically for this obviously.
However, fundamentally this arrangement would be viewed by many as a problem. Many would probably complain about this being “elitist”, though I’m still wondering why when it comes to sports, why can’t professional sports be regulated this way with a “no player left behind approach” and have every team play like the San Diego Chargers. Hence, this is why I feel, our education system will never be fixed. And the tradition will continue….money can buy better education here in the U.S…And why some parents will buy homes with better public schools or send them private. Because in the same area, parents with more financial means will pony up to support a higher standard.
Case in point: Carmel Valley school district parents pretty much dumped donation after donation into saving all those ESD extracurric programs when the district announced a budget shortfall and those programs/teachers would have to be cut. Because of parental donations, those teachers/jobs/classes were saved.
November 13, 2009 at 10:04 AM #482877CoronitaParticipant[quote=dbapig][quote=flu]
Why don’t we just regulate everyone’s pay. What is the fascination of of someone else’s pay? [/quote]Flu, we are NOT talking about regulating someone’s pay. We want a good education for our kids, our future. And it’s obvious that good pay would help draw good teachers which would improve education.
You got any good ideas for improving the education system?[/quote]
Sure.
1)Spend time educating your own kid. It’s more effective than “outsourcing” it to someone else anyway.
2)Follow how the education system is setup in asia, where kids need to pass entrance exams to get into the “best” public schools. Then take your “best” teachers and put them in those top schools and pay them more than your not so best schools.
Therefore, kids and teachers that care and want to do well get rewarded for it. Kids/teachers that dont give a rats well, they can get left behind and/or make less.
This would also solve the social/economic issue wrto education here in the U.S.
1)If you’re a smart/hardworking kid you get into the best schools regardless of economic background you are from. This eliminates the issue with kids coming from a poor family otherwise smart/hard working not having access to the “best” public schools in the U.S. Unfortunately, good education is tied too much to private money, and because public education is essentially “socialized”, everyone one else who doesn’t pay for private education gets the same generic material regardless of kid’s capabilities. This no-kid-left-behind thing, I think is a big problem, because it put too much emphasis on bringing bottom people up to average and not doing anything for top people.
2)If you’re a not-so-stellar kid/kid that dont care/or not so smart, well then your fall backplan is to fallback into a lesser school and/or if you have rich(er) parents that can “buy” your education for you at a private school.
3)If you’re a parent with a kid that isn’t #1 and you arent financially at #2, then well you fall back on #3 which is you spend your own time teaching your kids.
Note though: of course does not apply to kids with special ed needs. There should be schools setup specifically for this obviously.
However, fundamentally this arrangement would be viewed by many as a problem. Many would probably complain about this being “elitist”, though I’m still wondering why when it comes to sports, why can’t professional sports be regulated this way with a “no player left behind approach” and have every team play like the San Diego Chargers. Hence, this is why I feel, our education system will never be fixed. And the tradition will continue….money can buy better education here in the U.S…And why some parents will buy homes with better public schools or send them private. Because in the same area, parents with more financial means will pony up to support a higher standard.
Case in point: Carmel Valley school district parents pretty much dumped donation after donation into saving all those ESD extracurric programs when the district announced a budget shortfall and those programs/teachers would have to be cut. Because of parental donations, those teachers/jobs/classes were saved.
November 13, 2009 at 10:04 AM #483102CoronitaParticipant[quote=dbapig][quote=flu]
Why don’t we just regulate everyone’s pay. What is the fascination of of someone else’s pay? [/quote]Flu, we are NOT talking about regulating someone’s pay. We want a good education for our kids, our future. And it’s obvious that good pay would help draw good teachers which would improve education.
You got any good ideas for improving the education system?[/quote]
Sure.
1)Spend time educating your own kid. It’s more effective than “outsourcing” it to someone else anyway.
2)Follow how the education system is setup in asia, where kids need to pass entrance exams to get into the “best” public schools. Then take your “best” teachers and put them in those top schools and pay them more than your not so best schools.
Therefore, kids and teachers that care and want to do well get rewarded for it. Kids/teachers that dont give a rats well, they can get left behind and/or make less.
This would also solve the social/economic issue wrto education here in the U.S.
1)If you’re a smart/hardworking kid you get into the best schools regardless of economic background you are from. This eliminates the issue with kids coming from a poor family otherwise smart/hard working not having access to the “best” public schools in the U.S. Unfortunately, good education is tied too much to private money, and because public education is essentially “socialized”, everyone one else who doesn’t pay for private education gets the same generic material regardless of kid’s capabilities. This no-kid-left-behind thing, I think is a big problem, because it put too much emphasis on bringing bottom people up to average and not doing anything for top people.
2)If you’re a not-so-stellar kid/kid that dont care/or not so smart, well then your fall backplan is to fallback into a lesser school and/or if you have rich(er) parents that can “buy” your education for you at a private school.
3)If you’re a parent with a kid that isn’t #1 and you arent financially at #2, then well you fall back on #3 which is you spend your own time teaching your kids.
Note though: of course does not apply to kids with special ed needs. There should be schools setup specifically for this obviously.
However, fundamentally this arrangement would be viewed by many as a problem. Many would probably complain about this being “elitist”, though I’m still wondering why when it comes to sports, why can’t professional sports be regulated this way with a “no player left behind approach” and have every team play like the San Diego Chargers. Hence, this is why I feel, our education system will never be fixed. And the tradition will continue….money can buy better education here in the U.S…And why some parents will buy homes with better public schools or send them private. Because in the same area, parents with more financial means will pony up to support a higher standard.
Case in point: Carmel Valley school district parents pretty much dumped donation after donation into saving all those ESD extracurric programs when the district announced a budget shortfall and those programs/teachers would have to be cut. Because of parental donations, those teachers/jobs/classes were saved.
November 13, 2009 at 11:50 AM #482397dbapigParticipant[quote=flu]
1)Spend time educating your own kid. It’s more effective than “outsourcing” it to someone else anyway.[/quote]Agree to a certain point. After elementary school though, you really have to have competent teachers. Can you really expect to teach your kids Calculus, biology, history, etc? Calling it outsourcing isn’t really correct imo.[quote=flu]
2)Follow how the education system is setup in asia, where kids need to pass entrance exams to get into the “best” public schools. Then take your “best” teachers and put them in those top schools and pay them more than your not so best schools.[/quote]Not quite true. I don’t believe that’s the case, at least from what I know and heard. You are assigned to specific jr and especially high school based on where you live. Hence areas known to have good schools have higher real estate value. There are some PUBLIC high schools that you have to take an exam to get in but those are not that common.Talking about schools in Asia, teachers are especially respected/revered. Since here $$$ seems to gain respect (ok when earned legit) paying more to teachers would be a good idea. Hence $100,000 salary for QUALIFIED teachers.
[quote=flu]
1)If you’re a smart/hardworking kid you get into the best schools regardless of economic background you are from. This eliminates the issue with kids coming from a poor family otherwise smart/hard working not having access to the “best” public schools in the U.S. Unfortunately, good education is tied too much to private money, and because public education is essentially “socialized”, everyone one else who doesn’t pay for private education gets the same generic material regardless of kid’s capabilities. This no-kid-left-behind thing, I think is a big problem, because it put too much emphasis on bringing bottom people up to average and not doing anything for top people.[/quote]That’s why they have AP classes in high school, to give hard working kids the education they deserve. You comment that public education is “socialized” goes directly against the idea of democracy depending good public education. So you are saying we are using a socialist system to prepare kids for a Democratic nation? Any how seems like they are dropping no-kid-left-behind.
Another comment on the term ‘socialist’ or ‘socialized’. It seems like GOP/conservative throw around ‘socialist’ to try to label what they used to call ‘liberals’.[quote=flu]
3)If you’re a parent with a kid that isn’t #1 and you arent financially at #2, then well you fall back on #3 which is you spend your own time teaching your kids.[/quote]I HIGHLY doubt a family that’s not well off financially can spend the time or have the intellect to teach own kids.[quote=flu]
Case in point: Carmel Valley school district parents pretty much dumped donation after donation into saving all those ESD extracurric programs when the district announced a budget shortfall and those programs/teachers would have to be cut. Because of parental donations, those teachers/jobs/classes were saved.[/quote]And imagine what is happening at districts where parents CAN NOT dump donations after donations? Such people exist in any society you know…November 13, 2009 at 11:50 AM #482566dbapigParticipant[quote=flu]
1)Spend time educating your own kid. It’s more effective than “outsourcing” it to someone else anyway.[/quote]Agree to a certain point. After elementary school though, you really have to have competent teachers. Can you really expect to teach your kids Calculus, biology, history, etc? Calling it outsourcing isn’t really correct imo.[quote=flu]
2)Follow how the education system is setup in asia, where kids need to pass entrance exams to get into the “best” public schools. Then take your “best” teachers and put them in those top schools and pay them more than your not so best schools.[/quote]Not quite true. I don’t believe that’s the case, at least from what I know and heard. You are assigned to specific jr and especially high school based on where you live. Hence areas known to have good schools have higher real estate value. There are some PUBLIC high schools that you have to take an exam to get in but those are not that common.Talking about schools in Asia, teachers are especially respected/revered. Since here $$$ seems to gain respect (ok when earned legit) paying more to teachers would be a good idea. Hence $100,000 salary for QUALIFIED teachers.
[quote=flu]
1)If you’re a smart/hardworking kid you get into the best schools regardless of economic background you are from. This eliminates the issue with kids coming from a poor family otherwise smart/hard working not having access to the “best” public schools in the U.S. Unfortunately, good education is tied too much to private money, and because public education is essentially “socialized”, everyone one else who doesn’t pay for private education gets the same generic material regardless of kid’s capabilities. This no-kid-left-behind thing, I think is a big problem, because it put too much emphasis on bringing bottom people up to average and not doing anything for top people.[/quote]That’s why they have AP classes in high school, to give hard working kids the education they deserve. You comment that public education is “socialized” goes directly against the idea of democracy depending good public education. So you are saying we are using a socialist system to prepare kids for a Democratic nation? Any how seems like they are dropping no-kid-left-behind.
Another comment on the term ‘socialist’ or ‘socialized’. It seems like GOP/conservative throw around ‘socialist’ to try to label what they used to call ‘liberals’.[quote=flu]
3)If you’re a parent with a kid that isn’t #1 and you arent financially at #2, then well you fall back on #3 which is you spend your own time teaching your kids.[/quote]I HIGHLY doubt a family that’s not well off financially can spend the time or have the intellect to teach own kids.[quote=flu]
Case in point: Carmel Valley school district parents pretty much dumped donation after donation into saving all those ESD extracurric programs when the district announced a budget shortfall and those programs/teachers would have to be cut. Because of parental donations, those teachers/jobs/classes were saved.[/quote]And imagine what is happening at districts where parents CAN NOT dump donations after donations? Such people exist in any society you know…November 13, 2009 at 11:50 AM #482932dbapigParticipant[quote=flu]
1)Spend time educating your own kid. It’s more effective than “outsourcing” it to someone else anyway.[/quote]Agree to a certain point. After elementary school though, you really have to have competent teachers. Can you really expect to teach your kids Calculus, biology, history, etc? Calling it outsourcing isn’t really correct imo.[quote=flu]
2)Follow how the education system is setup in asia, where kids need to pass entrance exams to get into the “best” public schools. Then take your “best” teachers and put them in those top schools and pay them more than your not so best schools.[/quote]Not quite true. I don’t believe that’s the case, at least from what I know and heard. You are assigned to specific jr and especially high school based on where you live. Hence areas known to have good schools have higher real estate value. There are some PUBLIC high schools that you have to take an exam to get in but those are not that common.Talking about schools in Asia, teachers are especially respected/revered. Since here $$$ seems to gain respect (ok when earned legit) paying more to teachers would be a good idea. Hence $100,000 salary for QUALIFIED teachers.
[quote=flu]
1)If you’re a smart/hardworking kid you get into the best schools regardless of economic background you are from. This eliminates the issue with kids coming from a poor family otherwise smart/hard working not having access to the “best” public schools in the U.S. Unfortunately, good education is tied too much to private money, and because public education is essentially “socialized”, everyone one else who doesn’t pay for private education gets the same generic material regardless of kid’s capabilities. This no-kid-left-behind thing, I think is a big problem, because it put too much emphasis on bringing bottom people up to average and not doing anything for top people.[/quote]That’s why they have AP classes in high school, to give hard working kids the education they deserve. You comment that public education is “socialized” goes directly against the idea of democracy depending good public education. So you are saying we are using a socialist system to prepare kids for a Democratic nation? Any how seems like they are dropping no-kid-left-behind.
Another comment on the term ‘socialist’ or ‘socialized’. It seems like GOP/conservative throw around ‘socialist’ to try to label what they used to call ‘liberals’.[quote=flu]
3)If you’re a parent with a kid that isn’t #1 and you arent financially at #2, then well you fall back on #3 which is you spend your own time teaching your kids.[/quote]I HIGHLY doubt a family that’s not well off financially can spend the time or have the intellect to teach own kids.[quote=flu]
Case in point: Carmel Valley school district parents pretty much dumped donation after donation into saving all those ESD extracurric programs when the district announced a budget shortfall and those programs/teachers would have to be cut. Because of parental donations, those teachers/jobs/classes were saved.[/quote]And imagine what is happening at districts where parents CAN NOT dump donations after donations? Such people exist in any society you know…November 13, 2009 at 11:50 AM #483013dbapigParticipant[quote=flu]
1)Spend time educating your own kid. It’s more effective than “outsourcing” it to someone else anyway.[/quote]Agree to a certain point. After elementary school though, you really have to have competent teachers. Can you really expect to teach your kids Calculus, biology, history, etc? Calling it outsourcing isn’t really correct imo.[quote=flu]
2)Follow how the education system is setup in asia, where kids need to pass entrance exams to get into the “best” public schools. Then take your “best” teachers and put them in those top schools and pay them more than your not so best schools.[/quote]Not quite true. I don’t believe that’s the case, at least from what I know and heard. You are assigned to specific jr and especially high school based on where you live. Hence areas known to have good schools have higher real estate value. There are some PUBLIC high schools that you have to take an exam to get in but those are not that common.Talking about schools in Asia, teachers are especially respected/revered. Since here $$$ seems to gain respect (ok when earned legit) paying more to teachers would be a good idea. Hence $100,000 salary for QUALIFIED teachers.
[quote=flu]
1)If you’re a smart/hardworking kid you get into the best schools regardless of economic background you are from. This eliminates the issue with kids coming from a poor family otherwise smart/hard working not having access to the “best” public schools in the U.S. Unfortunately, good education is tied too much to private money, and because public education is essentially “socialized”, everyone one else who doesn’t pay for private education gets the same generic material regardless of kid’s capabilities. This no-kid-left-behind thing, I think is a big problem, because it put too much emphasis on bringing bottom people up to average and not doing anything for top people.[/quote]That’s why they have AP classes in high school, to give hard working kids the education they deserve. You comment that public education is “socialized” goes directly against the idea of democracy depending good public education. So you are saying we are using a socialist system to prepare kids for a Democratic nation? Any how seems like they are dropping no-kid-left-behind.
Another comment on the term ‘socialist’ or ‘socialized’. It seems like GOP/conservative throw around ‘socialist’ to try to label what they used to call ‘liberals’.[quote=flu]
3)If you’re a parent with a kid that isn’t #1 and you arent financially at #2, then well you fall back on #3 which is you spend your own time teaching your kids.[/quote]I HIGHLY doubt a family that’s not well off financially can spend the time or have the intellect to teach own kids.[quote=flu]
Case in point: Carmel Valley school district parents pretty much dumped donation after donation into saving all those ESD extracurric programs when the district announced a budget shortfall and those programs/teachers would have to be cut. Because of parental donations, those teachers/jobs/classes were saved.[/quote]And imagine what is happening at districts where parents CAN NOT dump donations after donations? Such people exist in any society you know…November 13, 2009 at 11:50 AM #483241dbapigParticipant[quote=flu]
1)Spend time educating your own kid. It’s more effective than “outsourcing” it to someone else anyway.[/quote]Agree to a certain point. After elementary school though, you really have to have competent teachers. Can you really expect to teach your kids Calculus, biology, history, etc? Calling it outsourcing isn’t really correct imo.[quote=flu]
2)Follow how the education system is setup in asia, where kids need to pass entrance exams to get into the “best” public schools. Then take your “best” teachers and put them in those top schools and pay them more than your not so best schools.[/quote]Not quite true. I don’t believe that’s the case, at least from what I know and heard. You are assigned to specific jr and especially high school based on where you live. Hence areas known to have good schools have higher real estate value. There are some PUBLIC high schools that you have to take an exam to get in but those are not that common.Talking about schools in Asia, teachers are especially respected/revered. Since here $$$ seems to gain respect (ok when earned legit) paying more to teachers would be a good idea. Hence $100,000 salary for QUALIFIED teachers.
[quote=flu]
1)If you’re a smart/hardworking kid you get into the best schools regardless of economic background you are from. This eliminates the issue with kids coming from a poor family otherwise smart/hard working not having access to the “best” public schools in the U.S. Unfortunately, good education is tied too much to private money, and because public education is essentially “socialized”, everyone one else who doesn’t pay for private education gets the same generic material regardless of kid’s capabilities. This no-kid-left-behind thing, I think is a big problem, because it put too much emphasis on bringing bottom people up to average and not doing anything for top people.[/quote]That’s why they have AP classes in high school, to give hard working kids the education they deserve. You comment that public education is “socialized” goes directly against the idea of democracy depending good public education. So you are saying we are using a socialist system to prepare kids for a Democratic nation? Any how seems like they are dropping no-kid-left-behind.
Another comment on the term ‘socialist’ or ‘socialized’. It seems like GOP/conservative throw around ‘socialist’ to try to label what they used to call ‘liberals’.[quote=flu]
3)If you’re a parent with a kid that isn’t #1 and you arent financially at #2, then well you fall back on #3 which is you spend your own time teaching your kids.[/quote]I HIGHLY doubt a family that’s not well off financially can spend the time or have the intellect to teach own kids.[quote=flu]
Case in point: Carmel Valley school district parents pretty much dumped donation after donation into saving all those ESD extracurric programs when the district announced a budget shortfall and those programs/teachers would have to be cut. Because of parental donations, those teachers/jobs/classes were saved.[/quote]And imagine what is happening at districts where parents CAN NOT dump donations after donations? Such people exist in any society you know…November 13, 2009 at 12:07 PM #482407jficquetteParticipant[quote=dbapig][quote=Eugene][quote=scaredycat]Drug dealers on the whole don’t make much money. Read FREAKONOMICS on that important subject (the chapter entitled “Why do most drug dealers live with their mothers?”)
However, strippers do very very well.
Clearly we need to redistribute some of the strippers’, engineers’ or teachers’ money to the relatively impoverished drug dealers.[/quote]
Interestingly, call girls also do very well. Even a mid-range Las Vegas call girl can out-earn any one of you engineer guys.[/quote]
But can she work until the retirement age of 65?[/quote]
Retires at 28 in that business
November 13, 2009 at 12:07 PM #482576jficquetteParticipant[quote=dbapig][quote=Eugene][quote=scaredycat]Drug dealers on the whole don’t make much money. Read FREAKONOMICS on that important subject (the chapter entitled “Why do most drug dealers live with their mothers?”)
However, strippers do very very well.
Clearly we need to redistribute some of the strippers’, engineers’ or teachers’ money to the relatively impoverished drug dealers.[/quote]
Interestingly, call girls also do very well. Even a mid-range Las Vegas call girl can out-earn any one of you engineer guys.[/quote]
But can she work until the retirement age of 65?[/quote]
Retires at 28 in that business
November 13, 2009 at 12:07 PM #482942jficquetteParticipant[quote=dbapig][quote=Eugene][quote=scaredycat]Drug dealers on the whole don’t make much money. Read FREAKONOMICS on that important subject (the chapter entitled “Why do most drug dealers live with their mothers?”)
However, strippers do very very well.
Clearly we need to redistribute some of the strippers’, engineers’ or teachers’ money to the relatively impoverished drug dealers.[/quote]
Interestingly, call girls also do very well. Even a mid-range Las Vegas call girl can out-earn any one of you engineer guys.[/quote]
But can she work until the retirement age of 65?[/quote]
Retires at 28 in that business
November 13, 2009 at 12:07 PM #483023jficquetteParticipant[quote=dbapig][quote=Eugene][quote=scaredycat]Drug dealers on the whole don’t make much money. Read FREAKONOMICS on that important subject (the chapter entitled “Why do most drug dealers live with their mothers?”)
However, strippers do very very well.
Clearly we need to redistribute some of the strippers’, engineers’ or teachers’ money to the relatively impoverished drug dealers.[/quote]
Interestingly, call girls also do very well. Even a mid-range Las Vegas call girl can out-earn any one of you engineer guys.[/quote]
But can she work until the retirement age of 65?[/quote]
Retires at 28 in that business
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