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September 17, 2007 at 10:59 PM #84921September 18, 2007 at 3:34 AM #84929
lostkitty
ParticipantThe people that are "tired of waiting" just do not understand market cycles, which will be part of the problem of getting to a true bottom. They will be too anxious, afraid of missing out.
I disagree – we left precisely because we DO understand market cycles. I moved five years ago – obviously well before the last push, and some could say we missed a money making opportunity, but the prices then were already too high for us. In this short five years, we have instead lived well within our means, lived extremely well (we travel – we can sign up the kids for anything they are interested in with the best private instructors – we ski – we go to San Diego for the entire summer, EVERY summer, etc.)
So now we sit and watch and wait to buy a summer condo out there when the prices fall. We'll never leave upstate NY. The schools, the scenery, even the snow are beautiful. And these words come from a girls who grew up in Solana Beach/Del Mar.
When my bones get old & cold, we'll retire in No.County.
Lots of people are leaving.
September 18, 2007 at 7:31 AM #84936Anonymous
GuestI understand market cycles too. I sold out of California in 2004 (a year early, sue me). 🙂
I bought in Austin and have seen nice steady appreciation ever since. Austin is a nice place, reminds me of San Diego in the late 70’s. Sorta small and laid back with a nice vibe and not overcrowded yet.
That said, it’s a little small town for us in the long run, and the market is giving some warning signs here too (increased inventory and DOM – fewer sales – prices steady so far), so we are going to sell and downsize to North Dallas where there is more going on.
I love San Diego, but at the current prices, Dallas is a better option for us. I can visit California whenever I like. And if prices fall far enough, the money we save in downsizing can go towards a house in San Diego at the bottom of the market.
September 18, 2007 at 7:58 AM #84938lniles
ParticipantLostkitty, if you buy a summer condo what will you do with it during the winter? I have a condo and am considering buying a house out East (maybe Georgia) but keeping the condo here. I can’t imagine being able to rent it only for the winter though, it would be a major inconvenience to the renter and myself moving in/out every year but at the same time it would be a waste to let it sit empty.
Any thoughts on Georgia? I’m thinking somewhere between Macon and the Atlantic.
September 18, 2007 at 8:03 AM #84939ibjames
ParticipantI love it here, can’t stand snow.. so I’m staying.
The point of the thread was to point out that I know a few white collar professionals that are leaving, and was wondering if other people do to.
One thing I see in this thread is people that say they love where they live, and how it’s a great decision, but later on in the paragraph they say they will return to San Diego.
September 18, 2007 at 8:17 AM #84942bob007
ParticipantI like San Diego – nice weather, cheaper housing compared to LA/Bay Area, mid-sized metro area
On the flip side the job base is limited, incomes are low compared to cost of living
September 18, 2007 at 8:26 AM #84943lniles
ParticipantThe only reason I’m still here is because I’m entrenched. I’ve kept busy and made many social and business contacts here. It has nothing to do with SD but my own busy lifestyle. I’ve been here for 16 years now and am comfortable with it.
I would definitely not call SD “great”. It’s got location, weather, and a bunch of citizens who like to take it in the A by believing the media and local govt. mass hype/deception about how great it is. It’s no wonder we have one of the biggest bubble markets. It’s also this I-like-to-take-it-in-the-A attitude of SD people that makes it so great to do business here. Lots of ripe, rampant consumers who will buy whatever you want to sell them.
September 18, 2007 at 8:29 AM #84944waterboy
ParticipantI’ve got one foot out the door after 6 years here. Thinking about Charlotte, NC area but still not sure if I would buy there right now as they have tons of new home inventory that will have to be reduced in this current slowdown.
September 18, 2007 at 8:41 AM #84945kewp
ParticipantI don’t get the ‘buy or fly’ mentality.
If you like SD and have a good, stable job, why not just rent and bankroll the savings? You will be in a prime position to buy when the market bottoms.
September 18, 2007 at 8:47 AM #84948NotCranky
Participant“You can spout off about the weather all you want, but when people making 150k a year cannot afford a decent house or can’t afford to take vacations there is a problem”
I hear stuff like this on these blogs all the time. Why can’t a person making 150k a year afford a decent house? Presumably they didn’t start making that yesterday? So let’s say they have 5-10 years making that kind of money. A single person could save 75k per year easily and a small family could save 50K or more. I can sympathize if there are alimony issues and issues like that but otherwise, where does the money go? Yes, cry me a river. Yes I know houses in San Diego are too expensive but to say I won’t buy one is different than to say I can’t. And that affordabilty issue really only got way out of whack from 2004 and beyond…so up until then buying was even less demanding on income. Plenty of people and families making less than 100k a year bought houses in this century in San Diego and will be fine.
September 18, 2007 at 9:05 AM #84954HLS
ParticipantLostKitty,
Don’t think that you actually READ what I wrote.You aren’t IN SAN DIEGO and TIRED OF WAITING for prices to drop, nor do you seem anxious to buy too soon.
Not sure exactly what it is that you disagree with.
September 18, 2007 at 9:35 AM #84959Ex-SD
ParticipantWaterboy wrote: “I’ve got one foot out the door after 6 years here. Thinking about Charlotte, NC area”
I left SD a couple of years ago and now live 90 miles south/southwest
of Charlotte in the Greenville, SC area. Take a look at the Greenville/Spartanburg area before you make a hard decision. The weather here is a little better than Charlotte because we’re very close to the mountains. It does get hot during July & August but the majority of the year offers very pleasant weather. I don’t work anymore but there is a healthy, vibrant economy. Greenville/Spartanburg and Charlotte did not have the ridiculous run-up in house prices that SD and the other bubble markets had so prices are pretty stable. You can buy an exceptionally nice home here for $225k-up and not have a neighbor living 10 feet away.September 18, 2007 at 9:39 AM #84960waterboy
ParticipantEx-SD….Thanks for the advice.
September 18, 2007 at 10:45 AM #84977bsrsharma
ParticipantOne other factor you may want to consider to improve your overall Quality of Life is Traffic Congestion. See http://mobility.tamu.edu/ums/congestion_data/
September 18, 2007 at 10:47 AM #84978CMcG
ParticipantI grew up here and will probably die here. The people in my office who are talking about “moving home” are late 20s-early 30s types who came here after college but are now marrying and planning to start families.
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