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August 17, 2007 at 11:07 AM #77020August 17, 2007 at 11:55 AM #77191
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ParticipantI would buy one of these today if they were available.
Might even consider getting a place out in Alpine and commuting to the coast when I need too, would be fun!
August 17, 2007 at 11:55 AM #77044ParticipantI would buy one of these today if they were available.
Might even consider getting a place out in Alpine and commuting to the coast when I need too, would be fun!
August 17, 2007 at 11:55 AM #77166ParticipantI would buy one of these today if they were available.
Might even consider getting a place out in Alpine and commuting to the coast when I need too, would be fun!
August 17, 2007 at 12:22 PM #77181sdnativeson
ParticipantIf they have a place to grow their own food. Growing enough food for a family of four will be a little difficult for many, not something done in a few pots or planters on the patio, not to mention the seasonal constraints.
From the little I know(been saying THAT a lot lately) to run a diesel on straight veggie oil requires some big modifications, and doesn’t do well in cold climates.
Not everyone can afford to modify their cars for alternative fuels, or buy new ones.
http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/alternativefuels/vegetableoil.html#major
“First, vegetable oil comes entirely as a renewable resource that’s grown right here in the US. That reduces our dependence on foreign oil.
Vegetable oil also reduces most tailpipe emissions, but actually increases the smog-increasing nitrous oxides compared to regular diesel.
However, when you factor in the fossil fuel normally used to grow the plants used to make vegetable oil, the results are less encouraging. When the “lifecycle” of the fuel is considered, using pure vegetable oil actually increases the pollution to the atmosphere by about 35%.
On the upside, vegetable oil does reduce the amount of “air toxics” and soot released into the atmosphere, compared to regular diesel fuel.
Of course, if you’re using vegetable oil that would normally be tossed in the dumpster, then you’re definitely helping to save the planet. ”
Lol, while the statement ” humans are a big cause of pollution, rich or poor” is true it’s also somewhat….
supercilious.Loads of articles, studies on the topic, do a search.
Here is a couple of links;
http://www.worldbank.org/research/greening/cha4new.htm
http://www.cato.org/pubs/regulation/regv26n3/v26n3-review.pdfAugust 17, 2007 at 12:22 PM #77206ParticipantIf they have a place to grow their own food. Growing enough food for a family of four will be a little difficult for many, not something done in a few pots or planters on the patio, not to mention the seasonal constraints.
From the little I know(been saying THAT a lot lately) to run a diesel on straight veggie oil requires some big modifications, and doesn’t do well in cold climates.
Not everyone can afford to modify their cars for alternative fuels, or buy new ones.
http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/alternativefuels/vegetableoil.html#major
“First, vegetable oil comes entirely as a renewable resource that’s grown right here in the US. That reduces our dependence on foreign oil.
Vegetable oil also reduces most tailpipe emissions, but actually increases the smog-increasing nitrous oxides compared to regular diesel.
However, when you factor in the fossil fuel normally used to grow the plants used to make vegetable oil, the results are less encouraging. When the “lifecycle” of the fuel is considered, using pure vegetable oil actually increases the pollution to the atmosphere by about 35%.
On the upside, vegetable oil does reduce the amount of “air toxics” and soot released into the atmosphere, compared to regular diesel fuel.
Of course, if you’re using vegetable oil that would normally be tossed in the dumpster, then you’re definitely helping to save the planet. ”
Lol, while the statement ” humans are a big cause of pollution, rich or poor” is true it’s also somewhat….
supercilious.Loads of articles, studies on the topic, do a search.
Here is a couple of links;
http://www.worldbank.org/research/greening/cha4new.htm
http://www.cato.org/pubs/regulation/regv26n3/v26n3-review.pdfAugust 17, 2007 at 12:22 PM #77059ParticipantIf they have a place to grow their own food. Growing enough food for a family of four will be a little difficult for many, not something done in a few pots or planters on the patio, not to mention the seasonal constraints.
From the little I know(been saying THAT a lot lately) to run a diesel on straight veggie oil requires some big modifications, and doesn’t do well in cold climates.
Not everyone can afford to modify their cars for alternative fuels, or buy new ones.
http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/alternativefuels/vegetableoil.html#major
“First, vegetable oil comes entirely as a renewable resource that’s grown right here in the US. That reduces our dependence on foreign oil.
Vegetable oil also reduces most tailpipe emissions, but actually increases the smog-increasing nitrous oxides compared to regular diesel.
However, when you factor in the fossil fuel normally used to grow the plants used to make vegetable oil, the results are less encouraging. When the “lifecycle” of the fuel is considered, using pure vegetable oil actually increases the pollution to the atmosphere by about 35%.
On the upside, vegetable oil does reduce the amount of “air toxics” and soot released into the atmosphere, compared to regular diesel fuel.
Of course, if you’re using vegetable oil that would normally be tossed in the dumpster, then you’re definitely helping to save the planet. ”
Lol, while the statement ” humans are a big cause of pollution, rich or poor” is true it’s also somewhat….
supercilious.Loads of articles, studies on the topic, do a search.
Here is a couple of links;
http://www.worldbank.org/research/greening/cha4new.htm
http://www.cato.org/pubs/regulation/regv26n3/v26n3-review.pdfAugust 17, 2007 at 12:34 PM #77187drunkle
Participantspeaking of supercilious:
“Look to the third world for examples. Poverty is a big cause of pollution. Maybe that would be a better focus for the “Green” organizations. (Maybe the term “Green” really stands for all the cash to be made?)”
you’re a fountain of ignorance and hubris. the third world countries known as America, China, Canada, Russia, Japan… all top of the heap in terms of pollution.
August 17, 2007 at 12:34 PM #77065Participantspeaking of supercilious:
“Look to the third world for examples. Poverty is a big cause of pollution. Maybe that would be a better focus for the “Green” organizations. (Maybe the term “Green” really stands for all the cash to be made?)”
you’re a fountain of ignorance and hubris. the third world countries known as America, China, Canada, Russia, Japan… all top of the heap in terms of pollution.
August 17, 2007 at 12:34 PM #77212Participantspeaking of supercilious:
“Look to the third world for examples. Poverty is a big cause of pollution. Maybe that would be a better focus for the “Green” organizations. (Maybe the term “Green” really stands for all the cash to be made?)”
you’re a fountain of ignorance and hubris. the third world countries known as America, China, Canada, Russia, Japan… all top of the heap in terms of pollution.
August 17, 2007 at 12:41 PM #77190lindismith
Participantyeah, I agree it would be hard to grow one’s own food. But in times of great need, people will resort to it.
My Father grew up in England during the War. They had a chicken coop and a vegetable garden. They grew as much as possible. They had no heart to kill their own chickens, so they would swap them with their neighbors so they weren’t actually killing the ones they had grown fond of.
It’s this kind of good old-fashioned ingenuity that needs to come back to this country. We are a disposable society, that throws away everything and values nothing. If credit had been harder to get, we wouldn’t be in this housing mess.
August 17, 2007 at 12:41 PM #77215Participantyeah, I agree it would be hard to grow one’s own food. But in times of great need, people will resort to it.
My Father grew up in England during the War. They had a chicken coop and a vegetable garden. They grew as much as possible. They had no heart to kill their own chickens, so they would swap them with their neighbors so they weren’t actually killing the ones they had grown fond of.
It’s this kind of good old-fashioned ingenuity that needs to come back to this country. We are a disposable society, that throws away everything and values nothing. If credit had been harder to get, we wouldn’t be in this housing mess.
August 17, 2007 at 12:41 PM #77069Participantyeah, I agree it would be hard to grow one’s own food. But in times of great need, people will resort to it.
My Father grew up in England during the War. They had a chicken coop and a vegetable garden. They grew as much as possible. They had no heart to kill their own chickens, so they would swap them with their neighbors so they weren’t actually killing the ones they had grown fond of.
It’s this kind of good old-fashioned ingenuity that needs to come back to this country. We are a disposable society, that throws away everything and values nothing. If credit had been harder to get, we wouldn’t be in this housing mess.
August 17, 2007 at 3:20 PM #77189Participantdrunkle, I’ve found a match for my ignorance, yours. As far as hubris – between the two of us that is primarily your gift. If you cannot entertain other ideas (even though supported by some of your enviros) that is a problem that is yours solely.
I’m getting close to thinking that you constantly demean/degrade the U.S. because of the misguided mentality it makes you look “sophisticated”. There are possible reasons none that are particularly flattering. I will say though, you are consistent.
There is a lot of information by all type of organizations that address the point I stated. I don’t think any of them
(haven’t read all, forgive me) say that any countries are exempt from pollution. “Pollution” covers a vast amounts and sources of contaminants.lindismith, I completely agree with your observation.
August 17, 2007 at 3:20 PM #77335Participantdrunkle, I’ve found a match for my ignorance, yours. As far as hubris – between the two of us that is primarily your gift. If you cannot entertain other ideas (even though supported by some of your enviros) that is a problem that is yours solely.
I’m getting close to thinking that you constantly demean/degrade the U.S. because of the misguided mentality it makes you look “sophisticated”. There are possible reasons none that are particularly flattering. I will say though, you are consistent.
There is a lot of information by all type of organizations that address the point I stated. I don’t think any of them
(haven’t read all, forgive me) say that any countries are exempt from pollution. “Pollution” covers a vast amounts and sources of contaminants.lindismith, I completely agree with your observation.
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