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July 20, 2009 at 8:11 AM #434816July 20, 2009 at 8:48 AM #434064CoronitaParticipant
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=DaCounselor]I use ADT but I have to add that it was 2nd to last in line on my checklist of home security. Motion sensor lights, heavy-duty deadbolts, window locks and window film all came first. And a new solid bedroom door and lock. Then ADT, then the 20 gauge. It does not take alot of money or effort to massively upgrade your home’s safety factor, so I figured why not? Also have a fire-rated safe. I’m not a survivalist kind of guy either, just common sense stuff that I used to never think about but over the years just figured if it doesn’t cost much why not go for the extra protection just in case.[/quote]
I’m curious about the window film. What did you film your windows to protect against?
Also, why 20 gauge? Versus something more robust and a better stopper (like 12 gauge)?
Just curious as to your thinking on both counts.[/quote]
Window film on residential works similar to what some types do for car window film…If someone attempts to smash the glass, the film keeps the glass together, often making it difficult for someone to break in through the window. (Some window tinting on autos do the same thing, not the cheap stuff). After X times, the burglar usually just gives up (since the noise from multiple smash attempts would surely be heard by someone nearby).
For example:
Video demo…
http://www.apexfilms.ca/safety_and_security.htm
The flip side to this is that *if* there is a fire, it might also make it that much more difficult for a fire/rescue you to get in…
Now, my understanding is that for this to be effective, the film has to be installed correctly. If you just cut the film around the glass instead of actually making it part of it inside the window frame, then what can end up happening is the glass breaks along the frame while keeping the rest of the glass intact…I never really played with it to test it out. Seems kinda cool though to take a baseball bat to a window to see what would happen though… I’m sure the demo video someone what was prepped to make it look stronger than what it can do.
Funny someone should mention the motion cameras. I got a kit from costco…Now trying to figure out how to upload video to the “cloud” automatically
July 20, 2009 at 8:48 AM #434271CoronitaParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=DaCounselor]I use ADT but I have to add that it was 2nd to last in line on my checklist of home security. Motion sensor lights, heavy-duty deadbolts, window locks and window film all came first. And a new solid bedroom door and lock. Then ADT, then the 20 gauge. It does not take alot of money or effort to massively upgrade your home’s safety factor, so I figured why not? Also have a fire-rated safe. I’m not a survivalist kind of guy either, just common sense stuff that I used to never think about but over the years just figured if it doesn’t cost much why not go for the extra protection just in case.[/quote]
I’m curious about the window film. What did you film your windows to protect against?
Also, why 20 gauge? Versus something more robust and a better stopper (like 12 gauge)?
Just curious as to your thinking on both counts.[/quote]
Window film on residential works similar to what some types do for car window film…If someone attempts to smash the glass, the film keeps the glass together, often making it difficult for someone to break in through the window. (Some window tinting on autos do the same thing, not the cheap stuff). After X times, the burglar usually just gives up (since the noise from multiple smash attempts would surely be heard by someone nearby).
For example:
Video demo…
http://www.apexfilms.ca/safety_and_security.htm
The flip side to this is that *if* there is a fire, it might also make it that much more difficult for a fire/rescue you to get in…
Now, my understanding is that for this to be effective, the film has to be installed correctly. If you just cut the film around the glass instead of actually making it part of it inside the window frame, then what can end up happening is the glass breaks along the frame while keeping the rest of the glass intact…I never really played with it to test it out. Seems kinda cool though to take a baseball bat to a window to see what would happen though… I’m sure the demo video someone what was prepped to make it look stronger than what it can do.
Funny someone should mention the motion cameras. I got a kit from costco…Now trying to figure out how to upload video to the “cloud” automatically
July 20, 2009 at 8:48 AM #434587CoronitaParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=DaCounselor]I use ADT but I have to add that it was 2nd to last in line on my checklist of home security. Motion sensor lights, heavy-duty deadbolts, window locks and window film all came first. And a new solid bedroom door and lock. Then ADT, then the 20 gauge. It does not take alot of money or effort to massively upgrade your home’s safety factor, so I figured why not? Also have a fire-rated safe. I’m not a survivalist kind of guy either, just common sense stuff that I used to never think about but over the years just figured if it doesn’t cost much why not go for the extra protection just in case.[/quote]
I’m curious about the window film. What did you film your windows to protect against?
Also, why 20 gauge? Versus something more robust and a better stopper (like 12 gauge)?
Just curious as to your thinking on both counts.[/quote]
Window film on residential works similar to what some types do for car window film…If someone attempts to smash the glass, the film keeps the glass together, often making it difficult for someone to break in through the window. (Some window tinting on autos do the same thing, not the cheap stuff). After X times, the burglar usually just gives up (since the noise from multiple smash attempts would surely be heard by someone nearby).
For example:
Video demo…
http://www.apexfilms.ca/safety_and_security.htm
The flip side to this is that *if* there is a fire, it might also make it that much more difficult for a fire/rescue you to get in…
Now, my understanding is that for this to be effective, the film has to be installed correctly. If you just cut the film around the glass instead of actually making it part of it inside the window frame, then what can end up happening is the glass breaks along the frame while keeping the rest of the glass intact…I never really played with it to test it out. Seems kinda cool though to take a baseball bat to a window to see what would happen though… I’m sure the demo video someone what was prepped to make it look stronger than what it can do.
Funny someone should mention the motion cameras. I got a kit from costco…Now trying to figure out how to upload video to the “cloud” automatically
July 20, 2009 at 8:48 AM #434657CoronitaParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=DaCounselor]I use ADT but I have to add that it was 2nd to last in line on my checklist of home security. Motion sensor lights, heavy-duty deadbolts, window locks and window film all came first. And a new solid bedroom door and lock. Then ADT, then the 20 gauge. It does not take alot of money or effort to massively upgrade your home’s safety factor, so I figured why not? Also have a fire-rated safe. I’m not a survivalist kind of guy either, just common sense stuff that I used to never think about but over the years just figured if it doesn’t cost much why not go for the extra protection just in case.[/quote]
I’m curious about the window film. What did you film your windows to protect against?
Also, why 20 gauge? Versus something more robust and a better stopper (like 12 gauge)?
Just curious as to your thinking on both counts.[/quote]
Window film on residential works similar to what some types do for car window film…If someone attempts to smash the glass, the film keeps the glass together, often making it difficult for someone to break in through the window. (Some window tinting on autos do the same thing, not the cheap stuff). After X times, the burglar usually just gives up (since the noise from multiple smash attempts would surely be heard by someone nearby).
For example:
Video demo…
http://www.apexfilms.ca/safety_and_security.htm
The flip side to this is that *if* there is a fire, it might also make it that much more difficult for a fire/rescue you to get in…
Now, my understanding is that for this to be effective, the film has to be installed correctly. If you just cut the film around the glass instead of actually making it part of it inside the window frame, then what can end up happening is the glass breaks along the frame while keeping the rest of the glass intact…I never really played with it to test it out. Seems kinda cool though to take a baseball bat to a window to see what would happen though… I’m sure the demo video someone what was prepped to make it look stronger than what it can do.
Funny someone should mention the motion cameras. I got a kit from costco…Now trying to figure out how to upload video to the “cloud” automatically
July 20, 2009 at 8:48 AM #434823CoronitaParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=DaCounselor]I use ADT but I have to add that it was 2nd to last in line on my checklist of home security. Motion sensor lights, heavy-duty deadbolts, window locks and window film all came first. And a new solid bedroom door and lock. Then ADT, then the 20 gauge. It does not take alot of money or effort to massively upgrade your home’s safety factor, so I figured why not? Also have a fire-rated safe. I’m not a survivalist kind of guy either, just common sense stuff that I used to never think about but over the years just figured if it doesn’t cost much why not go for the extra protection just in case.[/quote]
I’m curious about the window film. What did you film your windows to protect against?
Also, why 20 gauge? Versus something more robust and a better stopper (like 12 gauge)?
Just curious as to your thinking on both counts.[/quote]
Window film on residential works similar to what some types do for car window film…If someone attempts to smash the glass, the film keeps the glass together, often making it difficult for someone to break in through the window. (Some window tinting on autos do the same thing, not the cheap stuff). After X times, the burglar usually just gives up (since the noise from multiple smash attempts would surely be heard by someone nearby).
For example:
Video demo…
http://www.apexfilms.ca/safety_and_security.htm
The flip side to this is that *if* there is a fire, it might also make it that much more difficult for a fire/rescue you to get in…
Now, my understanding is that for this to be effective, the film has to be installed correctly. If you just cut the film around the glass instead of actually making it part of it inside the window frame, then what can end up happening is the glass breaks along the frame while keeping the rest of the glass intact…I never really played with it to test it out. Seems kinda cool though to take a baseball bat to a window to see what would happen though… I’m sure the demo video someone what was prepped to make it look stronger than what it can do.
Funny someone should mention the motion cameras. I got a kit from costco…Now trying to figure out how to upload video to the “cloud” automatically
July 20, 2009 at 10:01 AM #434127Allan from FallbrookParticipantFLU: I do a lot of work with window film in my business, so I was just curious as to how it was used in residential.
As an aside, check out the really high end stuff we use from Sherwin-Williams (Clear Life Shield). Go to their website: http://www.securitycoatings.com and check out the introductory video on the right side. Not really related to what we’re discussing, but if you ever have to withstand a blast in the 20psi range, it would sure come in handy.
July 20, 2009 at 10:01 AM #434333Allan from FallbrookParticipantFLU: I do a lot of work with window film in my business, so I was just curious as to how it was used in residential.
As an aside, check out the really high end stuff we use from Sherwin-Williams (Clear Life Shield). Go to their website: http://www.securitycoatings.com and check out the introductory video on the right side. Not really related to what we’re discussing, but if you ever have to withstand a blast in the 20psi range, it would sure come in handy.
July 20, 2009 at 10:01 AM #434648Allan from FallbrookParticipantFLU: I do a lot of work with window film in my business, so I was just curious as to how it was used in residential.
As an aside, check out the really high end stuff we use from Sherwin-Williams (Clear Life Shield). Go to their website: http://www.securitycoatings.com and check out the introductory video on the right side. Not really related to what we’re discussing, but if you ever have to withstand a blast in the 20psi range, it would sure come in handy.
July 20, 2009 at 10:01 AM #434720Allan from FallbrookParticipantFLU: I do a lot of work with window film in my business, so I was just curious as to how it was used in residential.
As an aside, check out the really high end stuff we use from Sherwin-Williams (Clear Life Shield). Go to their website: http://www.securitycoatings.com and check out the introductory video on the right side. Not really related to what we’re discussing, but if you ever have to withstand a blast in the 20psi range, it would sure come in handy.
July 20, 2009 at 10:01 AM #434886Allan from FallbrookParticipantFLU: I do a lot of work with window film in my business, so I was just curious as to how it was used in residential.
As an aside, check out the really high end stuff we use from Sherwin-Williams (Clear Life Shield). Go to their website: http://www.securitycoatings.com and check out the introductory video on the right side. Not really related to what we’re discussing, but if you ever have to withstand a blast in the 20psi range, it would sure come in handy.
July 20, 2009 at 5:45 PM #434300DaCounselorParticipantAllan – what flu said re window film. As for the shotgun, I am firmly in the camp that believes that a 20 loaded w/buck is more than enough to get the job done. Plus it’s easy and fun to shoot in other applications, making it more likely I will get out there and use it, making me better and safer.
July 20, 2009 at 5:45 PM #434507DaCounselorParticipantAllan – what flu said re window film. As for the shotgun, I am firmly in the camp that believes that a 20 loaded w/buck is more than enough to get the job done. Plus it’s easy and fun to shoot in other applications, making it more likely I will get out there and use it, making me better and safer.
July 20, 2009 at 5:45 PM #434821DaCounselorParticipantAllan – what flu said re window film. As for the shotgun, I am firmly in the camp that believes that a 20 loaded w/buck is more than enough to get the job done. Plus it’s easy and fun to shoot in other applications, making it more likely I will get out there and use it, making me better and safer.
July 20, 2009 at 5:45 PM #434894DaCounselorParticipantAllan – what flu said re window film. As for the shotgun, I am firmly in the camp that believes that a 20 loaded w/buck is more than enough to get the job done. Plus it’s easy and fun to shoot in other applications, making it more likely I will get out there and use it, making me better and safer.
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