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June 2, 2009 at 9:22 PM #410031June 2, 2009 at 9:23 PM #409338
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GuestNo jobs in Napa either. I see both as retiree options.
June 2, 2009 at 9:23 PM #409578GuestNo jobs in Napa either. I see both as retiree options.
June 2, 2009 at 9:23 PM #409825GuestNo jobs in Napa either. I see both as retiree options.
June 2, 2009 at 9:23 PM #409886GuestNo jobs in Napa either. I see both as retiree options.
June 2, 2009 at 9:23 PM #410036GuestNo jobs in Napa either. I see both as retiree options.
June 2, 2009 at 9:34 PM #409346
CoronitaParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=flu][quote=deadzone]What’s so great about Napa? Boring….[/quote]
Well then, you can head on south then to Laguna Seca if that’s your thing. Plenty of things to do there within driving distance.
Personally, I like the tranquility in Napa… And if home prices tank further, might be my ideal place to relax and retire.
Winter time is fun time because Tahoe is just 3.5 hrs away from SF. Here, that gets us to Big Bear (roughly) which blows.
Summertime is great in Tahoe…Also, if you head on over to Merced, you can do some decent white water rafting.
Plenty of things to do if you make time.
I guess Vegas is closer from here, and going to Reno isn’t the same thing. But gambling is gambling in my book.[/quote]
FLU: I’ve got 2 acres in St. Helena that I plan on building on somewhere in the near future. I love Napa, Sonoma and parts north (Amador and Mendocino).
Just anecdotally, there is a ton of land hitting the market throughout wine country and in large parcels and lots (20+ac). I’ve seen prices as low as $15k per acre for some listings.
I grew up in the SF/Bay Area and it will always be home to me, but I agree wholeheartedly about San Jose, especially the area near SJSU. Yikes.
Housing prices are starting to slip up there in The Fortress (Sta Clara county, specifically Santa Clara, Mtn View, Coop and Sunnyvale) and it’s expected to get worse. A long time friend of mine works for Intel at their Sta Clara campus and he says the downward trend is accelerating, especially as the layoffs intensify. He said that when you start seeing layoffs at Google (and they have), watch out.[/quote]
For some odd reason, I really liked Mendicino. It was in the middle of nowhere, but I recall I there was land very close to the coastline (at least a coastline view) for cheap, and it was at the same time very very rugged. I have occasional dreams about just living removed from civilization for a few months that or calling it quits in the tech field and go farm some grapes in Napa.
No doubt the issues about the Bay Area. Hardware is getting hit (as expected). Software and cloud computing isn’t so much (yet). Lots of consolidation, but still some pockets of startups, and my mothership up there is still hiring (for now).
Cyclical imho…
I’m not to concerned about the Valley..I grew up there for a few years there. Dad worked for Nasa for a few years in the late seventies before the economy tanked and we relocated to SoCal..only for the economy to pop back up in the 80ies.
Although home prices have fallen in Bay Area, I have not seen my tenant clamoring for a rent reduction yet, so it’s probably not *that* bad yet.
June 2, 2009 at 9:34 PM #409584CoronitaParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=flu][quote=deadzone]What’s so great about Napa? Boring….[/quote]
Well then, you can head on south then to Laguna Seca if that’s your thing. Plenty of things to do there within driving distance.
Personally, I like the tranquility in Napa… And if home prices tank further, might be my ideal place to relax and retire.
Winter time is fun time because Tahoe is just 3.5 hrs away from SF. Here, that gets us to Big Bear (roughly) which blows.
Summertime is great in Tahoe…Also, if you head on over to Merced, you can do some decent white water rafting.
Plenty of things to do if you make time.
I guess Vegas is closer from here, and going to Reno isn’t the same thing. But gambling is gambling in my book.[/quote]
FLU: I’ve got 2 acres in St. Helena that I plan on building on somewhere in the near future. I love Napa, Sonoma and parts north (Amador and Mendocino).
Just anecdotally, there is a ton of land hitting the market throughout wine country and in large parcels and lots (20+ac). I’ve seen prices as low as $15k per acre for some listings.
I grew up in the SF/Bay Area and it will always be home to me, but I agree wholeheartedly about San Jose, especially the area near SJSU. Yikes.
Housing prices are starting to slip up there in The Fortress (Sta Clara county, specifically Santa Clara, Mtn View, Coop and Sunnyvale) and it’s expected to get worse. A long time friend of mine works for Intel at their Sta Clara campus and he says the downward trend is accelerating, especially as the layoffs intensify. He said that when you start seeing layoffs at Google (and they have), watch out.[/quote]
For some odd reason, I really liked Mendicino. It was in the middle of nowhere, but I recall I there was land very close to the coastline (at least a coastline view) for cheap, and it was at the same time very very rugged. I have occasional dreams about just living removed from civilization for a few months that or calling it quits in the tech field and go farm some grapes in Napa.
No doubt the issues about the Bay Area. Hardware is getting hit (as expected). Software and cloud computing isn’t so much (yet). Lots of consolidation, but still some pockets of startups, and my mothership up there is still hiring (for now).
Cyclical imho…
I’m not to concerned about the Valley..I grew up there for a few years there. Dad worked for Nasa for a few years in the late seventies before the economy tanked and we relocated to SoCal..only for the economy to pop back up in the 80ies.
Although home prices have fallen in Bay Area, I have not seen my tenant clamoring for a rent reduction yet, so it’s probably not *that* bad yet.
June 2, 2009 at 9:34 PM #409832CoronitaParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=flu][quote=deadzone]What’s so great about Napa? Boring….[/quote]
Well then, you can head on south then to Laguna Seca if that’s your thing. Plenty of things to do there within driving distance.
Personally, I like the tranquility in Napa… And if home prices tank further, might be my ideal place to relax and retire.
Winter time is fun time because Tahoe is just 3.5 hrs away from SF. Here, that gets us to Big Bear (roughly) which blows.
Summertime is great in Tahoe…Also, if you head on over to Merced, you can do some decent white water rafting.
Plenty of things to do if you make time.
I guess Vegas is closer from here, and going to Reno isn’t the same thing. But gambling is gambling in my book.[/quote]
FLU: I’ve got 2 acres in St. Helena that I plan on building on somewhere in the near future. I love Napa, Sonoma and parts north (Amador and Mendocino).
Just anecdotally, there is a ton of land hitting the market throughout wine country and in large parcels and lots (20+ac). I’ve seen prices as low as $15k per acre for some listings.
I grew up in the SF/Bay Area and it will always be home to me, but I agree wholeheartedly about San Jose, especially the area near SJSU. Yikes.
Housing prices are starting to slip up there in The Fortress (Sta Clara county, specifically Santa Clara, Mtn View, Coop and Sunnyvale) and it’s expected to get worse. A long time friend of mine works for Intel at their Sta Clara campus and he says the downward trend is accelerating, especially as the layoffs intensify. He said that when you start seeing layoffs at Google (and they have), watch out.[/quote]
For some odd reason, I really liked Mendicino. It was in the middle of nowhere, but I recall I there was land very close to the coastline (at least a coastline view) for cheap, and it was at the same time very very rugged. I have occasional dreams about just living removed from civilization for a few months that or calling it quits in the tech field and go farm some grapes in Napa.
No doubt the issues about the Bay Area. Hardware is getting hit (as expected). Software and cloud computing isn’t so much (yet). Lots of consolidation, but still some pockets of startups, and my mothership up there is still hiring (for now).
Cyclical imho…
I’m not to concerned about the Valley..I grew up there for a few years there. Dad worked for Nasa for a few years in the late seventies before the economy tanked and we relocated to SoCal..only for the economy to pop back up in the 80ies.
Although home prices have fallen in Bay Area, I have not seen my tenant clamoring for a rent reduction yet, so it’s probably not *that* bad yet.
June 2, 2009 at 9:34 PM #409893CoronitaParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=flu][quote=deadzone]What’s so great about Napa? Boring….[/quote]
Well then, you can head on south then to Laguna Seca if that’s your thing. Plenty of things to do there within driving distance.
Personally, I like the tranquility in Napa… And if home prices tank further, might be my ideal place to relax and retire.
Winter time is fun time because Tahoe is just 3.5 hrs away from SF. Here, that gets us to Big Bear (roughly) which blows.
Summertime is great in Tahoe…Also, if you head on over to Merced, you can do some decent white water rafting.
Plenty of things to do if you make time.
I guess Vegas is closer from here, and going to Reno isn’t the same thing. But gambling is gambling in my book.[/quote]
FLU: I’ve got 2 acres in St. Helena that I plan on building on somewhere in the near future. I love Napa, Sonoma and parts north (Amador and Mendocino).
Just anecdotally, there is a ton of land hitting the market throughout wine country and in large parcels and lots (20+ac). I’ve seen prices as low as $15k per acre for some listings.
I grew up in the SF/Bay Area and it will always be home to me, but I agree wholeheartedly about San Jose, especially the area near SJSU. Yikes.
Housing prices are starting to slip up there in The Fortress (Sta Clara county, specifically Santa Clara, Mtn View, Coop and Sunnyvale) and it’s expected to get worse. A long time friend of mine works for Intel at their Sta Clara campus and he says the downward trend is accelerating, especially as the layoffs intensify. He said that when you start seeing layoffs at Google (and they have), watch out.[/quote]
For some odd reason, I really liked Mendicino. It was in the middle of nowhere, but I recall I there was land very close to the coastline (at least a coastline view) for cheap, and it was at the same time very very rugged. I have occasional dreams about just living removed from civilization for a few months that or calling it quits in the tech field and go farm some grapes in Napa.
No doubt the issues about the Bay Area. Hardware is getting hit (as expected). Software and cloud computing isn’t so much (yet). Lots of consolidation, but still some pockets of startups, and my mothership up there is still hiring (for now).
Cyclical imho…
I’m not to concerned about the Valley..I grew up there for a few years there. Dad worked for Nasa for a few years in the late seventies before the economy tanked and we relocated to SoCal..only for the economy to pop back up in the 80ies.
Although home prices have fallen in Bay Area, I have not seen my tenant clamoring for a rent reduction yet, so it’s probably not *that* bad yet.
June 2, 2009 at 9:34 PM #410043CoronitaParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=flu][quote=deadzone]What’s so great about Napa? Boring….[/quote]
Well then, you can head on south then to Laguna Seca if that’s your thing. Plenty of things to do there within driving distance.
Personally, I like the tranquility in Napa… And if home prices tank further, might be my ideal place to relax and retire.
Winter time is fun time because Tahoe is just 3.5 hrs away from SF. Here, that gets us to Big Bear (roughly) which blows.
Summertime is great in Tahoe…Also, if you head on over to Merced, you can do some decent white water rafting.
Plenty of things to do if you make time.
I guess Vegas is closer from here, and going to Reno isn’t the same thing. But gambling is gambling in my book.[/quote]
FLU: I’ve got 2 acres in St. Helena that I plan on building on somewhere in the near future. I love Napa, Sonoma and parts north (Amador and Mendocino).
Just anecdotally, there is a ton of land hitting the market throughout wine country and in large parcels and lots (20+ac). I’ve seen prices as low as $15k per acre for some listings.
I grew up in the SF/Bay Area and it will always be home to me, but I agree wholeheartedly about San Jose, especially the area near SJSU. Yikes.
Housing prices are starting to slip up there in The Fortress (Sta Clara county, specifically Santa Clara, Mtn View, Coop and Sunnyvale) and it’s expected to get worse. A long time friend of mine works for Intel at their Sta Clara campus and he says the downward trend is accelerating, especially as the layoffs intensify. He said that when you start seeing layoffs at Google (and they have), watch out.[/quote]
For some odd reason, I really liked Mendicino. It was in the middle of nowhere, but I recall I there was land very close to the coastline (at least a coastline view) for cheap, and it was at the same time very very rugged. I have occasional dreams about just living removed from civilization for a few months that or calling it quits in the tech field and go farm some grapes in Napa.
No doubt the issues about the Bay Area. Hardware is getting hit (as expected). Software and cloud computing isn’t so much (yet). Lots of consolidation, but still some pockets of startups, and my mothership up there is still hiring (for now).
Cyclical imho…
I’m not to concerned about the Valley..I grew up there for a few years there. Dad worked for Nasa for a few years in the late seventies before the economy tanked and we relocated to SoCal..only for the economy to pop back up in the 80ies.
Although home prices have fallen in Bay Area, I have not seen my tenant clamoring for a rent reduction yet, so it’s probably not *that* bad yet.
June 2, 2009 at 9:51 PM #409376Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantFLU: My dad worked for Ford Aerospace in Palo Alto (now Loral or L3 or something) as an aerospace engineer and he used to do extensive testing at the wind tunnel at NASA’s ARC (Ames Research Center) facility next to NAS Moffett Field.
He took me there a couple of times for the “frozen chicken” testing with Boeing: They’d fire frozen chickens at the windscreen of a 747 cockpit and forward fuselage and see what damage resulted. It was supposed to simulate birds striking the plane at 600mph.
This would have been from 1977 to around 1982 (he moved into the Milsat/Intelsat/”Keyhole” satellite program after that).
Small world.
June 2, 2009 at 9:51 PM #409614ParticipantFLU: My dad worked for Ford Aerospace in Palo Alto (now Loral or L3 or something) as an aerospace engineer and he used to do extensive testing at the wind tunnel at NASA’s ARC (Ames Research Center) facility next to NAS Moffett Field.
He took me there a couple of times for the “frozen chicken” testing with Boeing: They’d fire frozen chickens at the windscreen of a 747 cockpit and forward fuselage and see what damage resulted. It was supposed to simulate birds striking the plane at 600mph.
This would have been from 1977 to around 1982 (he moved into the Milsat/Intelsat/”Keyhole” satellite program after that).
Small world.
June 2, 2009 at 9:51 PM #409862ParticipantFLU: My dad worked for Ford Aerospace in Palo Alto (now Loral or L3 or something) as an aerospace engineer and he used to do extensive testing at the wind tunnel at NASA’s ARC (Ames Research Center) facility next to NAS Moffett Field.
He took me there a couple of times for the “frozen chicken” testing with Boeing: They’d fire frozen chickens at the windscreen of a 747 cockpit and forward fuselage and see what damage resulted. It was supposed to simulate birds striking the plane at 600mph.
This would have been from 1977 to around 1982 (he moved into the Milsat/Intelsat/”Keyhole” satellite program after that).
Small world.
June 2, 2009 at 9:51 PM #409923ParticipantFLU: My dad worked for Ford Aerospace in Palo Alto (now Loral or L3 or something) as an aerospace engineer and he used to do extensive testing at the wind tunnel at NASA’s ARC (Ames Research Center) facility next to NAS Moffett Field.
He took me there a couple of times for the “frozen chicken” testing with Boeing: They’d fire frozen chickens at the windscreen of a 747 cockpit and forward fuselage and see what damage resulted. It was supposed to simulate birds striking the plane at 600mph.
This would have been from 1977 to around 1982 (he moved into the Milsat/Intelsat/”Keyhole” satellite program after that).
Small world.
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