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July 11, 2010 at 10:14 PM #577974July 12, 2010 at 8:53 AM #576995CoronitaParticipant
[quote=lepetitangel]Hi All,
Really appreciate your opinions. I’d like to say I probably misread that San Dieguito School District is not so good as I googled it and Torrey Pines High School falls wihtin this distruct. So I’m sure it’s got good schools.
I again like CV area cuz of convenience. Husband and I are not the typical young couples who have to go out clubbing/drinking and me having lived in CV in my parents house for a few years before we got married made me realize it’s close to where we like to go. We like to occasionally go to Downtown La Jolla or Solana Beach/Del Mar for nice dinner out, and to parks or hiking trails near-by. It’s an easy commute for me (biotech job) as most jobs are either in Carlsbad or in La Jolla/UTC area. I agree with SDrealtor that as long as there’re engineering and biotech jobs in Golden Triangle, CV price will hold up. But again in a catastrophic event, all housing price will tank again in SD County. The question is just when that will come and how soon it’ll happen. We plan to call San diego home and that’s why I thought even if housing market doesn’t go up in 10 years, I’ll just stay in the townhome for 15~20-years. I know that having kids is different and it seems like you do need a yard when you have kids. But we can only do our best. In CV, there’s no way to buy a detached SFHs for $600K. All the ones I’ve looked at are at least $650K or more. Carriage run starts at $700K as well.
If market double-dips (which it should) by the end of this year, do you think Pardee will adjust its pricing for highlands village? Flu said Pardee is very good at controlling the price. Does that mean even if I wait for another 6-month, I still won’t be able to get these new townhomes for good deals?Lastly, we’re considering plan 4 which is 2050-sqft (4-bedroom/2.5-bath) that’s about $590K~$610K. I think it’s not bad for the squarefootage ($292/sqft) cuz most CV homes are at least $350~$450/sqft. The HOA is about $290 (mid~high in CV/Del Mar area) but it does cover many things. We have a couple friend that just moved into the complex and hubby checked out their amenities. They got a good size pool, jacuzzi, BBQ area, media center, pool table, ping-pong, a full workout gym, etc. It’s better than what we’re paying right now in 4S Ranch.
Also can any of you comment on what you think of us buying a SFH in 4S Ranch instead? A lot of SFHs (not necessary have a drive-way) in 4S area are not going for $480K~$520K for squarefootage of 1800~2000-sqft. I def. get more bang for my buck. But what do you think of 4S area in general? Do you think the SFHs in 4S will have a better potential to appreciate than a townhome in CV? 4S prices have dropped way more than CV in the past two years…is it a good time to buy?[/quote]
I’d say, you’re heart is in CV, but your wallets are in aligned with RB π So, again, I’d say…wait….Two-3 years. Who knows. a Saratoga resell for the $600’s..You never know..
July 12, 2010 at 8:53 AM #577091CoronitaParticipant[quote=lepetitangel]Hi All,
Really appreciate your opinions. I’d like to say I probably misread that San Dieguito School District is not so good as I googled it and Torrey Pines High School falls wihtin this distruct. So I’m sure it’s got good schools.
I again like CV area cuz of convenience. Husband and I are not the typical young couples who have to go out clubbing/drinking and me having lived in CV in my parents house for a few years before we got married made me realize it’s close to where we like to go. We like to occasionally go to Downtown La Jolla or Solana Beach/Del Mar for nice dinner out, and to parks or hiking trails near-by. It’s an easy commute for me (biotech job) as most jobs are either in Carlsbad or in La Jolla/UTC area. I agree with SDrealtor that as long as there’re engineering and biotech jobs in Golden Triangle, CV price will hold up. But again in a catastrophic event, all housing price will tank again in SD County. The question is just when that will come and how soon it’ll happen. We plan to call San diego home and that’s why I thought even if housing market doesn’t go up in 10 years, I’ll just stay in the townhome for 15~20-years. I know that having kids is different and it seems like you do need a yard when you have kids. But we can only do our best. In CV, there’s no way to buy a detached SFHs for $600K. All the ones I’ve looked at are at least $650K or more. Carriage run starts at $700K as well.
If market double-dips (which it should) by the end of this year, do you think Pardee will adjust its pricing for highlands village? Flu said Pardee is very good at controlling the price. Does that mean even if I wait for another 6-month, I still won’t be able to get these new townhomes for good deals?Lastly, we’re considering plan 4 which is 2050-sqft (4-bedroom/2.5-bath) that’s about $590K~$610K. I think it’s not bad for the squarefootage ($292/sqft) cuz most CV homes are at least $350~$450/sqft. The HOA is about $290 (mid~high in CV/Del Mar area) but it does cover many things. We have a couple friend that just moved into the complex and hubby checked out their amenities. They got a good size pool, jacuzzi, BBQ area, media center, pool table, ping-pong, a full workout gym, etc. It’s better than what we’re paying right now in 4S Ranch.
Also can any of you comment on what you think of us buying a SFH in 4S Ranch instead? A lot of SFHs (not necessary have a drive-way) in 4S area are not going for $480K~$520K for squarefootage of 1800~2000-sqft. I def. get more bang for my buck. But what do you think of 4S area in general? Do you think the SFHs in 4S will have a better potential to appreciate than a townhome in CV? 4S prices have dropped way more than CV in the past two years…is it a good time to buy?[/quote]
I’d say, you’re heart is in CV, but your wallets are in aligned with RB π So, again, I’d say…wait….Two-3 years. Who knows. a Saratoga resell for the $600’s..You never know..
July 12, 2010 at 8:53 AM #577617CoronitaParticipant[quote=lepetitangel]Hi All,
Really appreciate your opinions. I’d like to say I probably misread that San Dieguito School District is not so good as I googled it and Torrey Pines High School falls wihtin this distruct. So I’m sure it’s got good schools.
I again like CV area cuz of convenience. Husband and I are not the typical young couples who have to go out clubbing/drinking and me having lived in CV in my parents house for a few years before we got married made me realize it’s close to where we like to go. We like to occasionally go to Downtown La Jolla or Solana Beach/Del Mar for nice dinner out, and to parks or hiking trails near-by. It’s an easy commute for me (biotech job) as most jobs are either in Carlsbad or in La Jolla/UTC area. I agree with SDrealtor that as long as there’re engineering and biotech jobs in Golden Triangle, CV price will hold up. But again in a catastrophic event, all housing price will tank again in SD County. The question is just when that will come and how soon it’ll happen. We plan to call San diego home and that’s why I thought even if housing market doesn’t go up in 10 years, I’ll just stay in the townhome for 15~20-years. I know that having kids is different and it seems like you do need a yard when you have kids. But we can only do our best. In CV, there’s no way to buy a detached SFHs for $600K. All the ones I’ve looked at are at least $650K or more. Carriage run starts at $700K as well.
If market double-dips (which it should) by the end of this year, do you think Pardee will adjust its pricing for highlands village? Flu said Pardee is very good at controlling the price. Does that mean even if I wait for another 6-month, I still won’t be able to get these new townhomes for good deals?Lastly, we’re considering plan 4 which is 2050-sqft (4-bedroom/2.5-bath) that’s about $590K~$610K. I think it’s not bad for the squarefootage ($292/sqft) cuz most CV homes are at least $350~$450/sqft. The HOA is about $290 (mid~high in CV/Del Mar area) but it does cover many things. We have a couple friend that just moved into the complex and hubby checked out their amenities. They got a good size pool, jacuzzi, BBQ area, media center, pool table, ping-pong, a full workout gym, etc. It’s better than what we’re paying right now in 4S Ranch.
Also can any of you comment on what you think of us buying a SFH in 4S Ranch instead? A lot of SFHs (not necessary have a drive-way) in 4S area are not going for $480K~$520K for squarefootage of 1800~2000-sqft. I def. get more bang for my buck. But what do you think of 4S area in general? Do you think the SFHs in 4S will have a better potential to appreciate than a townhome in CV? 4S prices have dropped way more than CV in the past two years…is it a good time to buy?[/quote]
I’d say, you’re heart is in CV, but your wallets are in aligned with RB π So, again, I’d say…wait….Two-3 years. Who knows. a Saratoga resell for the $600’s..You never know..
July 12, 2010 at 8:53 AM #577724CoronitaParticipant[quote=lepetitangel]Hi All,
Really appreciate your opinions. I’d like to say I probably misread that San Dieguito School District is not so good as I googled it and Torrey Pines High School falls wihtin this distruct. So I’m sure it’s got good schools.
I again like CV area cuz of convenience. Husband and I are not the typical young couples who have to go out clubbing/drinking and me having lived in CV in my parents house for a few years before we got married made me realize it’s close to where we like to go. We like to occasionally go to Downtown La Jolla or Solana Beach/Del Mar for nice dinner out, and to parks or hiking trails near-by. It’s an easy commute for me (biotech job) as most jobs are either in Carlsbad or in La Jolla/UTC area. I agree with SDrealtor that as long as there’re engineering and biotech jobs in Golden Triangle, CV price will hold up. But again in a catastrophic event, all housing price will tank again in SD County. The question is just when that will come and how soon it’ll happen. We plan to call San diego home and that’s why I thought even if housing market doesn’t go up in 10 years, I’ll just stay in the townhome for 15~20-years. I know that having kids is different and it seems like you do need a yard when you have kids. But we can only do our best. In CV, there’s no way to buy a detached SFHs for $600K. All the ones I’ve looked at are at least $650K or more. Carriage run starts at $700K as well.
If market double-dips (which it should) by the end of this year, do you think Pardee will adjust its pricing for highlands village? Flu said Pardee is very good at controlling the price. Does that mean even if I wait for another 6-month, I still won’t be able to get these new townhomes for good deals?Lastly, we’re considering plan 4 which is 2050-sqft (4-bedroom/2.5-bath) that’s about $590K~$610K. I think it’s not bad for the squarefootage ($292/sqft) cuz most CV homes are at least $350~$450/sqft. The HOA is about $290 (mid~high in CV/Del Mar area) but it does cover many things. We have a couple friend that just moved into the complex and hubby checked out their amenities. They got a good size pool, jacuzzi, BBQ area, media center, pool table, ping-pong, a full workout gym, etc. It’s better than what we’re paying right now in 4S Ranch.
Also can any of you comment on what you think of us buying a SFH in 4S Ranch instead? A lot of SFHs (not necessary have a drive-way) in 4S area are not going for $480K~$520K for squarefootage of 1800~2000-sqft. I def. get more bang for my buck. But what do you think of 4S area in general? Do you think the SFHs in 4S will have a better potential to appreciate than a townhome in CV? 4S prices have dropped way more than CV in the past two years…is it a good time to buy?[/quote]
I’d say, you’re heart is in CV, but your wallets are in aligned with RB π So, again, I’d say…wait….Two-3 years. Who knows. a Saratoga resell for the $600’s..You never know..
July 12, 2010 at 8:53 AM #578024CoronitaParticipant[quote=lepetitangel]Hi All,
Really appreciate your opinions. I’d like to say I probably misread that San Dieguito School District is not so good as I googled it and Torrey Pines High School falls wihtin this distruct. So I’m sure it’s got good schools.
I again like CV area cuz of convenience. Husband and I are not the typical young couples who have to go out clubbing/drinking and me having lived in CV in my parents house for a few years before we got married made me realize it’s close to where we like to go. We like to occasionally go to Downtown La Jolla or Solana Beach/Del Mar for nice dinner out, and to parks or hiking trails near-by. It’s an easy commute for me (biotech job) as most jobs are either in Carlsbad or in La Jolla/UTC area. I agree with SDrealtor that as long as there’re engineering and biotech jobs in Golden Triangle, CV price will hold up. But again in a catastrophic event, all housing price will tank again in SD County. The question is just when that will come and how soon it’ll happen. We plan to call San diego home and that’s why I thought even if housing market doesn’t go up in 10 years, I’ll just stay in the townhome for 15~20-years. I know that having kids is different and it seems like you do need a yard when you have kids. But we can only do our best. In CV, there’s no way to buy a detached SFHs for $600K. All the ones I’ve looked at are at least $650K or more. Carriage run starts at $700K as well.
If market double-dips (which it should) by the end of this year, do you think Pardee will adjust its pricing for highlands village? Flu said Pardee is very good at controlling the price. Does that mean even if I wait for another 6-month, I still won’t be able to get these new townhomes for good deals?Lastly, we’re considering plan 4 which is 2050-sqft (4-bedroom/2.5-bath) that’s about $590K~$610K. I think it’s not bad for the squarefootage ($292/sqft) cuz most CV homes are at least $350~$450/sqft. The HOA is about $290 (mid~high in CV/Del Mar area) but it does cover many things. We have a couple friend that just moved into the complex and hubby checked out their amenities. They got a good size pool, jacuzzi, BBQ area, media center, pool table, ping-pong, a full workout gym, etc. It’s better than what we’re paying right now in 4S Ranch.
Also can any of you comment on what you think of us buying a SFH in 4S Ranch instead? A lot of SFHs (not necessary have a drive-way) in 4S area are not going for $480K~$520K for squarefootage of 1800~2000-sqft. I def. get more bang for my buck. But what do you think of 4S area in general? Do you think the SFHs in 4S will have a better potential to appreciate than a townhome in CV? 4S prices have dropped way more than CV in the past two years…is it a good time to buy?[/quote]
I’d say, you’re heart is in CV, but your wallets are in aligned with RB π So, again, I’d say…wait….Two-3 years. Who knows. a Saratoga resell for the $600’s..You never know..
July 12, 2010 at 9:18 AM #577015sdrealtorParticipantHybrid plan to FLU’s recommendation. I dont expect to see Saratoga around 600’s but my advice is to take matters into your own hands and spend the next 2 to 3 putting yourself in the position to suceed whatever happens. Prices arent going up dramatically anytime soon. Stay in your 4S townhome and save as much as you can. Alot can change in your lives in 2 to 3 years and have a big down and reserves is a great place to be.
BTW, I’ve seen and actually sold SFR in CV for around 600K in Sausalito. The are detached condo’s but its a quiet neighborhood a short walk to a great school and they have small yards.
July 12, 2010 at 9:18 AM #577111sdrealtorParticipantHybrid plan to FLU’s recommendation. I dont expect to see Saratoga around 600’s but my advice is to take matters into your own hands and spend the next 2 to 3 putting yourself in the position to suceed whatever happens. Prices arent going up dramatically anytime soon. Stay in your 4S townhome and save as much as you can. Alot can change in your lives in 2 to 3 years and have a big down and reserves is a great place to be.
BTW, I’ve seen and actually sold SFR in CV for around 600K in Sausalito. The are detached condo’s but its a quiet neighborhood a short walk to a great school and they have small yards.
July 12, 2010 at 9:18 AM #577637sdrealtorParticipantHybrid plan to FLU’s recommendation. I dont expect to see Saratoga around 600’s but my advice is to take matters into your own hands and spend the next 2 to 3 putting yourself in the position to suceed whatever happens. Prices arent going up dramatically anytime soon. Stay in your 4S townhome and save as much as you can. Alot can change in your lives in 2 to 3 years and have a big down and reserves is a great place to be.
BTW, I’ve seen and actually sold SFR in CV for around 600K in Sausalito. The are detached condo’s but its a quiet neighborhood a short walk to a great school and they have small yards.
July 12, 2010 at 9:18 AM #577744sdrealtorParticipantHybrid plan to FLU’s recommendation. I dont expect to see Saratoga around 600’s but my advice is to take matters into your own hands and spend the next 2 to 3 putting yourself in the position to suceed whatever happens. Prices arent going up dramatically anytime soon. Stay in your 4S townhome and save as much as you can. Alot can change in your lives in 2 to 3 years and have a big down and reserves is a great place to be.
BTW, I’ve seen and actually sold SFR in CV for around 600K in Sausalito. The are detached condo’s but its a quiet neighborhood a short walk to a great school and they have small yards.
July 12, 2010 at 9:18 AM #578044sdrealtorParticipantHybrid plan to FLU’s recommendation. I dont expect to see Saratoga around 600’s but my advice is to take matters into your own hands and spend the next 2 to 3 putting yourself in the position to suceed whatever happens. Prices arent going up dramatically anytime soon. Stay in your 4S townhome and save as much as you can. Alot can change in your lives in 2 to 3 years and have a big down and reserves is a great place to be.
BTW, I’ve seen and actually sold SFR in CV for around 600K in Sausalito. The are detached condo’s but its a quiet neighborhood a short walk to a great school and they have small yards.
July 12, 2010 at 10:13 AM #577035carliParticipantAs usual, FLU makes some very astute points. I agree that you’ll regret buying a townhome instead of just sucking it up for a couple more years.
I also want to confirm his info that some kids in that area are NOT going to be able to attend either of the elementary schools that are within walking distance, Sage Canyon and Ocean Air (both of which are the highest rated in the district). There are going to be some confused and angry parents out there who thought that buying in that area guaranteed admission to either school.
Here’s an excerpt from an article published in the Del Mar Times on July 1, 2010, recapping the results of a recent DMUSD Bd of Trustees meeting:
“Del Mar school district to cap enrollment at Sage Canyon and Ocean Air –
The Del Mar Union School District will cap enrollment this fall at Ocean Air and Sage Canyon School to avoid overcrowded campuses.
Most district schools are anticipated to have sufficient capacity to accommodate all students who reside within their attendance boundaries – except for Ocean Air and Sage Canyon, whose neighborhoods are experiencing growth due to new housing developments.Kindergarten and second grade at Ocean Air will be capped at six sections (classes), and first and third grade capped at five. Fourth grade will be capped at four sections, and fifth and sixth grade at 3.5 sections.
Sage Canyon kindergarten, second and third grades will be capped at five sections, first grade at six sections, fourth grade at four sections, and fifth and sixth at 4.5 sections.
Students who don’t get into their school of choice will be placed at an alternate school.
‘We know we are offering a wonderful education at any one of our school sites,’ Trustee Katherine White said.”
EDIT – I added the word “SOME” to the statement that kids are not going to be able to attend either Ocean Air or Sage Canyon even if they live in that area. Obviously there will still be kids in that area attending those schools!
One more point…the schools that the overflow kids will be sent to are pretty far away. Parents will be driving at least another 10-15 mins (maybe more in morning rush hour) one way to the other elementary schools in the DMUSD district.
July 12, 2010 at 10:13 AM #577131carliParticipantAs usual, FLU makes some very astute points. I agree that you’ll regret buying a townhome instead of just sucking it up for a couple more years.
I also want to confirm his info that some kids in that area are NOT going to be able to attend either of the elementary schools that are within walking distance, Sage Canyon and Ocean Air (both of which are the highest rated in the district). There are going to be some confused and angry parents out there who thought that buying in that area guaranteed admission to either school.
Here’s an excerpt from an article published in the Del Mar Times on July 1, 2010, recapping the results of a recent DMUSD Bd of Trustees meeting:
“Del Mar school district to cap enrollment at Sage Canyon and Ocean Air –
The Del Mar Union School District will cap enrollment this fall at Ocean Air and Sage Canyon School to avoid overcrowded campuses.
Most district schools are anticipated to have sufficient capacity to accommodate all students who reside within their attendance boundaries – except for Ocean Air and Sage Canyon, whose neighborhoods are experiencing growth due to new housing developments.Kindergarten and second grade at Ocean Air will be capped at six sections (classes), and first and third grade capped at five. Fourth grade will be capped at four sections, and fifth and sixth grade at 3.5 sections.
Sage Canyon kindergarten, second and third grades will be capped at five sections, first grade at six sections, fourth grade at four sections, and fifth and sixth at 4.5 sections.
Students who don’t get into their school of choice will be placed at an alternate school.
‘We know we are offering a wonderful education at any one of our school sites,’ Trustee Katherine White said.”
EDIT – I added the word “SOME” to the statement that kids are not going to be able to attend either Ocean Air or Sage Canyon even if they live in that area. Obviously there will still be kids in that area attending those schools!
One more point…the schools that the overflow kids will be sent to are pretty far away. Parents will be driving at least another 10-15 mins (maybe more in morning rush hour) one way to the other elementary schools in the DMUSD district.
July 12, 2010 at 10:13 AM #577657carliParticipantAs usual, FLU makes some very astute points. I agree that you’ll regret buying a townhome instead of just sucking it up for a couple more years.
I also want to confirm his info that some kids in that area are NOT going to be able to attend either of the elementary schools that are within walking distance, Sage Canyon and Ocean Air (both of which are the highest rated in the district). There are going to be some confused and angry parents out there who thought that buying in that area guaranteed admission to either school.
Here’s an excerpt from an article published in the Del Mar Times on July 1, 2010, recapping the results of a recent DMUSD Bd of Trustees meeting:
“Del Mar school district to cap enrollment at Sage Canyon and Ocean Air –
The Del Mar Union School District will cap enrollment this fall at Ocean Air and Sage Canyon School to avoid overcrowded campuses.
Most district schools are anticipated to have sufficient capacity to accommodate all students who reside within their attendance boundaries – except for Ocean Air and Sage Canyon, whose neighborhoods are experiencing growth due to new housing developments.Kindergarten and second grade at Ocean Air will be capped at six sections (classes), and first and third grade capped at five. Fourth grade will be capped at four sections, and fifth and sixth grade at 3.5 sections.
Sage Canyon kindergarten, second and third grades will be capped at five sections, first grade at six sections, fourth grade at four sections, and fifth and sixth at 4.5 sections.
Students who don’t get into their school of choice will be placed at an alternate school.
‘We know we are offering a wonderful education at any one of our school sites,’ Trustee Katherine White said.”
EDIT – I added the word “SOME” to the statement that kids are not going to be able to attend either Ocean Air or Sage Canyon even if they live in that area. Obviously there will still be kids in that area attending those schools!
One more point…the schools that the overflow kids will be sent to are pretty far away. Parents will be driving at least another 10-15 mins (maybe more in morning rush hour) one way to the other elementary schools in the DMUSD district.
July 12, 2010 at 10:13 AM #577763carliParticipantAs usual, FLU makes some very astute points. I agree that you’ll regret buying a townhome instead of just sucking it up for a couple more years.
I also want to confirm his info that some kids in that area are NOT going to be able to attend either of the elementary schools that are within walking distance, Sage Canyon and Ocean Air (both of which are the highest rated in the district). There are going to be some confused and angry parents out there who thought that buying in that area guaranteed admission to either school.
Here’s an excerpt from an article published in the Del Mar Times on July 1, 2010, recapping the results of a recent DMUSD Bd of Trustees meeting:
“Del Mar school district to cap enrollment at Sage Canyon and Ocean Air –
The Del Mar Union School District will cap enrollment this fall at Ocean Air and Sage Canyon School to avoid overcrowded campuses.
Most district schools are anticipated to have sufficient capacity to accommodate all students who reside within their attendance boundaries – except for Ocean Air and Sage Canyon, whose neighborhoods are experiencing growth due to new housing developments.Kindergarten and second grade at Ocean Air will be capped at six sections (classes), and first and third grade capped at five. Fourth grade will be capped at four sections, and fifth and sixth grade at 3.5 sections.
Sage Canyon kindergarten, second and third grades will be capped at five sections, first grade at six sections, fourth grade at four sections, and fifth and sixth at 4.5 sections.
Students who don’t get into their school of choice will be placed at an alternate school.
‘We know we are offering a wonderful education at any one of our school sites,’ Trustee Katherine White said.”
EDIT – I added the word “SOME” to the statement that kids are not going to be able to attend either Ocean Air or Sage Canyon even if they live in that area. Obviously there will still be kids in that area attending those schools!
One more point…the schools that the overflow kids will be sent to are pretty far away. Parents will be driving at least another 10-15 mins (maybe more in morning rush hour) one way to the other elementary schools in the DMUSD district.
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