Help me please!

[Anonymous]

Yes, it’s sad…

Again, this woman called almost in tears one night (if that wasn’t an act…) about how the investors were coming in her office crying on her desk.

Anyway, the harassment by her continues. I got another packet in the mail 2 days ago in which she was pointing out that it’s illegal for me to participate in the son’s “rent skimming” behavior. The bottom line is my future is unsure here, because if the mother gets the property I don’t know if she will continue to rent to me when/if she finds out I didn’t pay rent for 2 months and still owe that amount of money. So, if she gets the property, she can evict. The clock is ticking. The notice of default became effect in September.

I cannot pay the son the extra $500 on top of the regular rent in catch-up payments. So, in order to protect me from him evicting, I’d need some type of agreement in writing from him that he will let me pay arrearages when I am able. I don’t think he will want to do that. He offered me a new lease, but do I really want to be pinned down to this place for any significant length of time? No, I do not.

Finally, the tenants next door to me make sick every time I think and or look at them.

Bottomline: My future is not secure here until I know the outcome of who wins: mother or son. Even then, the son cannot really afford this place, so he could sell anytime. He may take a loss just to get out now before prices drop anymore even though he tells me he will hold on to the property.

[barnaby33]

Can they evict me?

They can and should. Just because the owner is having trouble making his payments and has a financial legal issue with his mother doesn’t alleviate you of your legal obligation to pay rent. Thats a pathetic opportunistic sort of behavior. If you have concerns about who to pay the rent to, put the money in an escrow account and tell both parties you’ll pay when you find out clearly to whom you would owe the rent. It sounds like without a foreclosure, you still owe your landlord, not his mother.

Josh

[barnaby33]

Can they evict me?

They can and should. Just because the owner is having trouble making his payments and has a financial legal issue with his mother doesn’t alleviate you of your legal obligation to pay rent. Thats a pathetic opportunistic sort of behavior. If you have concerns about who to pay the rent to, put the money in an escrow account and tell both parties you’ll pay when you find out clearly to whom you would owe the rent. It sounds like without a foreclosure, you still owe your landlord, not his mother.

Josh

[barnaby33]

Can they evict me?

They can and should. Just because the owner is having trouble making his payments and has a financial legal issue with his mother doesn’t alleviate you of your legal obligation to pay rent. Thats a pathetic opportunistic sort of behavior. If you have concerns about who to pay the rent to, put the money in an escrow account and tell both parties you’ll pay when you find out clearly to whom you would owe the rent. It sounds like without a foreclosure, you still owe your landlord, not his mother.

Josh

[barnaby33]

Can they evict me?

They can and should. Just because the owner is having trouble making his payments and has a financial legal issue with his mother doesn’t alleviate you of your legal obligation to pay rent. Thats a pathetic opportunistic sort of behavior. If you have concerns about who to pay the rent to, put the money in an escrow account and tell both parties you’ll pay when you find out clearly to whom you would owe the rent. It sounds like without a foreclosure, you still owe your landlord, not his mother.

Josh

[Anonymous]

Josh, the owner is engaging in “rent skimming”. That’s illegal. I’m paying rent to ensure I have a place to live. So, why should I pay him if he’s not paying the lender?

I’m aware I can get evicted and don’t want to stay anyway. Because of the instability of my future in this property (as a direct result of his problems with his mother). Also because his mother has been rude to me and she appears manipulative. If her company (second mortgage holder) forecloses on this property, I have a gut feeling that she will evict me anyway.

As previously noted, the mother is still demanding money and has the gall to send me a letter stating her company’s not a property management company and will NOT do any repairs while the home is going through foreclosure.

I understand that you probably own rental property like most on here do so are probably empathetic towards the owner. But, put yourself in my position. I am concerned about my immediate future in this rental. This is not about taking advtantage of the owner.

It’s about me and my family’s well-being. I have kids to think about and if I have to move they will be abruptly uprooted. How would you like that to happen to your family, Josh?

[Anonymous]

Josh, the owner is engaging in “rent skimming”. That’s illegal. I’m paying rent to ensure I have a place to live. So, why should I pay him if he’s not paying the lender?

I’m aware I can get evicted and don’t want to stay anyway. Because of the instability of my future in this property (as a direct result of his problems with his mother). Also because his mother has been rude to me and she appears manipulative. If her company (second mortgage holder) forecloses on this property, I have a gut feeling that she will evict me anyway.

As previously noted, the mother is still demanding money and has the gall to send me a letter stating her company’s not a property management company and will NOT do any repairs while the home is going through foreclosure.

I understand that you probably own rental property like most on here do so are probably empathetic towards the owner. But, put yourself in my position. I am concerned about my immediate future in this rental. This is not about taking advtantage of the owner.

It’s about me and my family’s well-being. I have kids to think about and if I have to move they will be abruptly uprooted. How would you like that to happen to your family, Josh?

[Anonymous]

Josh, the owner is engaging in “rent skimming”. That’s illegal. I’m paying rent to ensure I have a place to live. So, why should I pay him if he’s not paying the lender?

I’m aware I can get evicted and don’t want to stay anyway. Because of the instability of my future in this property (as a direct result of his problems with his mother). Also because his mother has been rude to me and she appears manipulative. If her company (second mortgage holder) forecloses on this property, I have a gut feeling that she will evict me anyway.

As previously noted, the mother is still demanding money and has the gall to send me a letter stating her company’s not a property management company and will NOT do any repairs while the home is going through foreclosure.

I understand that you probably own rental property like most on here do so are probably empathetic towards the owner. But, put yourself in my position. I am concerned about my immediate future in this rental. This is not about taking advtantage of the owner.

It’s about me and my family’s well-being. I have kids to think about and if I have to move they will be abruptly uprooted. How would you like that to happen to your family, Josh?

[Anonymous]

Josh, the owner is engaging in “rent skimming”. That’s illegal. I’m paying rent to ensure I have a place to live. So, why should I pay him if he’s not paying the lender?

I’m aware I can get evicted and don’t want to stay anyway. Because of the instability of my future in this property (as a direct result of his problems with his mother). Also because his mother has been rude to me and she appears manipulative. If her company (second mortgage holder) forecloses on this property, I have a gut feeling that she will evict me anyway.

As previously noted, the mother is still demanding money and has the gall to send me a letter stating her company’s not a property management company and will NOT do any repairs while the home is going through foreclosure.

I understand that you probably own rental property like most on here do so are probably empathetic towards the owner. But, put yourself in my position. I am concerned about my immediate future in this rental. This is not about taking advtantage of the owner.

It’s about me and my family’s well-being. I have kids to think about and if I have to move they will be abruptly uprooted. How would you like that to happen to your family, Josh?

[Raybyrnes]

Legality is determined by a judge not you. Your obligation is to pay your rent to the son. End of story. This crap about the neighbors you don’t like, a mother who contacts you is rubbish. All you need to say to stay clean is that you make on time payments to the son and that you will need to contact him regarding any further issues. If they need to contact you on any further issues you would prefer they do it through an attorney.

[Raybyrnes]

Legality is determined by a judge not you. Your obligation is to pay your rent to the son. End of story. This crap about the neighbors you don’t like, a mother who contacts you is rubbish. All you need to say to stay clean is that you make on time payments to the son and that you will need to contact him regarding any further issues. If they need to contact you on any further issues you would prefer they do it through an attorney.

[Raybyrnes]

Legality is determined by a judge not you. Your obligation is to pay your rent to the son. End of story. This crap about the neighbors you don’t like, a mother who contacts you is rubbish. All you need to say to stay clean is that you make on time payments to the son and that you will need to contact him regarding any further issues. If they need to contact you on any further issues you would prefer they do it through an attorney.

[Raybyrnes]

Legality is determined by a judge not you. Your obligation is to pay your rent to the son. End of story. This crap about the neighbors you don’t like, a mother who contacts you is rubbish. All you need to say to stay clean is that you make on time payments to the son and that you will need to contact him regarding any further issues. If they need to contact you on any further issues you would prefer they do it through an attorney.

[SD Realtor]

I guess I just do not understand the entire issue. I mean I am so far away from understanding the mentality that I guess I am missing the point. I have gone round and round with OC Scam on this issue many moons ago….

Why is there a sense of entitlement that people about not needing to pay rent if the landlord is in trouble with the lender?

What if the landlord got into financial ruin because of a bad investment? What if he lost everything due to a lawsuit? What if he lost everything due to credit card debt? I really believe that an agreement between a tenant and a landlord is a total orthoganol event to anything else.

If you do not want to pay rent then do not pay rent. Why should it matter if the landlord is going to lose the house or not. What argument is there to pay rent at all even if the landlord is making his mortgage payments? If the end goal is to be a squatter in the home to eventually own it then say so. That is okay by me. I mean I don’t agree with it but at least it makes some sense to me.

Anyways like I said, I guess I just don’t understand the mindset.

Am I missing something here?

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

I guess I just do not understand the entire issue. I mean I am so far away from understanding the mentality that I guess I am missing the point. I have gone round and round with OC Scam on this issue many moons ago….

Why is there a sense of entitlement that people about not needing to pay rent if the landlord is in trouble with the lender?

What if the landlord got into financial ruin because of a bad investment? What if he lost everything due to a lawsuit? What if he lost everything due to credit card debt? I really believe that an agreement between a tenant and a landlord is a total orthoganol event to anything else.

If you do not want to pay rent then do not pay rent. Why should it matter if the landlord is going to lose the house or not. What argument is there to pay rent at all even if the landlord is making his mortgage payments? If the end goal is to be a squatter in the home to eventually own it then say so. That is okay by me. I mean I don’t agree with it but at least it makes some sense to me.

Anyways like I said, I guess I just don’t understand the mindset.

Am I missing something here?

SD Realtor

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