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May 24, 2011 at 4:29 PM #699659May 24, 2011 at 5:46 PM #698495
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ParticipantI don’t own any guns and haven’t shot one in 20+ years, but I just got back from visiting Switzerland. The place is full of guns and there are little shooting houses (Stand de Tir en Français) scattered around for the people to practice at. They love ’em, can’t get enough of ’em, etc… Of course the army people have them but private people do as well. And not just hunting guns but scary looking guns like they are always telling us to be afraid of on the Tee Vee. The sort of gun you see Osama waving around with a scary soundtrack behind, you know – that kind of thing. Now consider this – the Swiss have four distinct cultures/languages – French, German, Italian, and Romansch. If there were people who historically don’t seem to get along, it would be the French, Germans, and Italians. How many wars have they fought with each other in the last couple of hundred years? Meanwhile Switzerland is an island of calm. Napoleon tried to invade it and failed. Hitler thought about it but remembered what happened to Napoleon and decided not to. And so Switzerland sits there, full of people speaking different languages, eating different foods, making jokes about and disagreeing with each other, all happily shooting their guns at targets, but not at each other. It is a strange paradox, but in that case lots of guns exist in a very peaceful society. They have had the odd mass shooting incident but those can happen anywhere – crazy people don’t care about gun laws anyway. They’re crazy!
One thing I did notice is that the Swiss have a very strong sense of responsibility and duty. I don’t think this exists here, the majority of people are just out to get what they can when they can without giving a shit about anyone else.
May 24, 2011 at 5:46 PM #698587ParticipantI don’t own any guns and haven’t shot one in 20+ years, but I just got back from visiting Switzerland. The place is full of guns and there are little shooting houses (Stand de Tir en Français) scattered around for the people to practice at. They love ’em, can’t get enough of ’em, etc… Of course the army people have them but private people do as well. And not just hunting guns but scary looking guns like they are always telling us to be afraid of on the Tee Vee. The sort of gun you see Osama waving around with a scary soundtrack behind, you know – that kind of thing. Now consider this – the Swiss have four distinct cultures/languages – French, German, Italian, and Romansch. If there were people who historically don’t seem to get along, it would be the French, Germans, and Italians. How many wars have they fought with each other in the last couple of hundred years? Meanwhile Switzerland is an island of calm. Napoleon tried to invade it and failed. Hitler thought about it but remembered what happened to Napoleon and decided not to. And so Switzerland sits there, full of people speaking different languages, eating different foods, making jokes about and disagreeing with each other, all happily shooting their guns at targets, but not at each other. It is a strange paradox, but in that case lots of guns exist in a very peaceful society. They have had the odd mass shooting incident but those can happen anywhere – crazy people don’t care about gun laws anyway. They’re crazy!
One thing I did notice is that the Swiss have a very strong sense of responsibility and duty. I don’t think this exists here, the majority of people are just out to get what they can when they can without giving a shit about anyone else.
May 24, 2011 at 5:46 PM #699179ParticipantI don’t own any guns and haven’t shot one in 20+ years, but I just got back from visiting Switzerland. The place is full of guns and there are little shooting houses (Stand de Tir en Français) scattered around for the people to practice at. They love ’em, can’t get enough of ’em, etc… Of course the army people have them but private people do as well. And not just hunting guns but scary looking guns like they are always telling us to be afraid of on the Tee Vee. The sort of gun you see Osama waving around with a scary soundtrack behind, you know – that kind of thing. Now consider this – the Swiss have four distinct cultures/languages – French, German, Italian, and Romansch. If there were people who historically don’t seem to get along, it would be the French, Germans, and Italians. How many wars have they fought with each other in the last couple of hundred years? Meanwhile Switzerland is an island of calm. Napoleon tried to invade it and failed. Hitler thought about it but remembered what happened to Napoleon and decided not to. And so Switzerland sits there, full of people speaking different languages, eating different foods, making jokes about and disagreeing with each other, all happily shooting their guns at targets, but not at each other. It is a strange paradox, but in that case lots of guns exist in a very peaceful society. They have had the odd mass shooting incident but those can happen anywhere – crazy people don’t care about gun laws anyway. They’re crazy!
One thing I did notice is that the Swiss have a very strong sense of responsibility and duty. I don’t think this exists here, the majority of people are just out to get what they can when they can without giving a shit about anyone else.
May 24, 2011 at 5:46 PM #699323ParticipantI don’t own any guns and haven’t shot one in 20+ years, but I just got back from visiting Switzerland. The place is full of guns and there are little shooting houses (Stand de Tir en Français) scattered around for the people to practice at. They love ’em, can’t get enough of ’em, etc… Of course the army people have them but private people do as well. And not just hunting guns but scary looking guns like they are always telling us to be afraid of on the Tee Vee. The sort of gun you see Osama waving around with a scary soundtrack behind, you know – that kind of thing. Now consider this – the Swiss have four distinct cultures/languages – French, German, Italian, and Romansch. If there were people who historically don’t seem to get along, it would be the French, Germans, and Italians. How many wars have they fought with each other in the last couple of hundred years? Meanwhile Switzerland is an island of calm. Napoleon tried to invade it and failed. Hitler thought about it but remembered what happened to Napoleon and decided not to. And so Switzerland sits there, full of people speaking different languages, eating different foods, making jokes about and disagreeing with each other, all happily shooting their guns at targets, but not at each other. It is a strange paradox, but in that case lots of guns exist in a very peaceful society. They have had the odd mass shooting incident but those can happen anywhere – crazy people don’t care about gun laws anyway. They’re crazy!
One thing I did notice is that the Swiss have a very strong sense of responsibility and duty. I don’t think this exists here, the majority of people are just out to get what they can when they can without giving a shit about anyone else.
May 24, 2011 at 5:46 PM #699679ParticipantI don’t own any guns and haven’t shot one in 20+ years, but I just got back from visiting Switzerland. The place is full of guns and there are little shooting houses (Stand de Tir en Français) scattered around for the people to practice at. They love ’em, can’t get enough of ’em, etc… Of course the army people have them but private people do as well. And not just hunting guns but scary looking guns like they are always telling us to be afraid of on the Tee Vee. The sort of gun you see Osama waving around with a scary soundtrack behind, you know – that kind of thing. Now consider this – the Swiss have four distinct cultures/languages – French, German, Italian, and Romansch. If there were people who historically don’t seem to get along, it would be the French, Germans, and Italians. How many wars have they fought with each other in the last couple of hundred years? Meanwhile Switzerland is an island of calm. Napoleon tried to invade it and failed. Hitler thought about it but remembered what happened to Napoleon and decided not to. And so Switzerland sits there, full of people speaking different languages, eating different foods, making jokes about and disagreeing with each other, all happily shooting their guns at targets, but not at each other. It is a strange paradox, but in that case lots of guns exist in a very peaceful society. They have had the odd mass shooting incident but those can happen anywhere – crazy people don’t care about gun laws anyway. They’re crazy!
One thing I did notice is that the Swiss have a very strong sense of responsibility and duty. I don’t think this exists here, the majority of people are just out to get what they can when they can without giving a shit about anyone else.
May 24, 2011 at 5:59 PM #698500Arraya
ParticipantInterestinly, Switzerland is #3 in guns per capita and still is half the ratio of the US, who is number 1.
May 24, 2011 at 5:59 PM #698592ParticipantInterestinly, Switzerland is #3 in guns per capita and still is half the ratio of the US, who is number 1.
May 24, 2011 at 5:59 PM #699183ParticipantInterestinly, Switzerland is #3 in guns per capita and still is half the ratio of the US, who is number 1.
May 24, 2011 at 5:59 PM #699328ParticipantInterestinly, Switzerland is #3 in guns per capita and still is half the ratio of the US, who is number 1.
May 24, 2011 at 5:59 PM #699684ParticipantInterestinly, Switzerland is #3 in guns per capita and still is half the ratio of the US, who is number 1.
May 24, 2011 at 6:59 PM #698505Participant[quote=CognitiveDissonance]Interestinly, Switzerland is #3 in guns per capita and still is half the ratio of the US, who is number 1.[/quote]
That is interesting – the list is here. #2 is that extremely stable country of Yemen. Iraq and Finland are right next to each other in the list. Mexico is very low but of course has tons of gun crime in the drug war. The list seems to show that there is not much of a correlation between the number of guns and the crime level/stability of the society. That was the conclusion that Michael Moore seemed to reach in “Bowling For Columbine” after visiting Canada, which also has pretty high gun ownership (although not as high as the US).
I have to admit that US number is pretty surprising. There are probably a bunch of bubbas distorting the figure with their collections.
May 24, 2011 at 6:59 PM #698597Participant[quote=CognitiveDissonance]Interestinly, Switzerland is #3 in guns per capita and still is half the ratio of the US, who is number 1.[/quote]
That is interesting – the list is here. #2 is that extremely stable country of Yemen. Iraq and Finland are right next to each other in the list. Mexico is very low but of course has tons of gun crime in the drug war. The list seems to show that there is not much of a correlation between the number of guns and the crime level/stability of the society. That was the conclusion that Michael Moore seemed to reach in “Bowling For Columbine” after visiting Canada, which also has pretty high gun ownership (although not as high as the US).
I have to admit that US number is pretty surprising. There are probably a bunch of bubbas distorting the figure with their collections.
May 24, 2011 at 6:59 PM #699188Participant[quote=CognitiveDissonance]Interestinly, Switzerland is #3 in guns per capita and still is half the ratio of the US, who is number 1.[/quote]
That is interesting – the list is here. #2 is that extremely stable country of Yemen. Iraq and Finland are right next to each other in the list. Mexico is very low but of course has tons of gun crime in the drug war. The list seems to show that there is not much of a correlation between the number of guns and the crime level/stability of the society. That was the conclusion that Michael Moore seemed to reach in “Bowling For Columbine” after visiting Canada, which also has pretty high gun ownership (although not as high as the US).
I have to admit that US number is pretty surprising. There are probably a bunch of bubbas distorting the figure with their collections.
May 24, 2011 at 6:59 PM #699333Participant[quote=CognitiveDissonance]Interestinly, Switzerland is #3 in guns per capita and still is half the ratio of the US, who is number 1.[/quote]
That is interesting – the list is here. #2 is that extremely stable country of Yemen. Iraq and Finland are right next to each other in the list. Mexico is very low but of course has tons of gun crime in the drug war. The list seems to show that there is not much of a correlation between the number of guns and the crime level/stability of the society. That was the conclusion that Michael Moore seemed to reach in “Bowling For Columbine” after visiting Canada, which also has pretty high gun ownership (although not as high as the US).
I have to admit that US number is pretty surprising. There are probably a bunch of bubbas distorting the figure with their collections.
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