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  • October 31, 2007 at 1:30 PM #93831
    CardiffBaseball
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    cardiff

    do you have any info on those places you see at all? PB is fun but I would love to live in Encinitas

    I don't recall if you had kids, so I will discuss as if you did.  If you do not, then Cardiff, west of I-5 seems to be a fun little area, with a decent shopping center, and centralized places to hang out.  A decent rental area for young families is east of I-5 in Park Place. Cardiff has it's own elementary school district, which is separate from Encinitas until they all merge into San Dieguito schools in the 7th grade.  I'd rate people in that area as a bit less pretentious. (unfortunately for us star-gazer's less maintenance on the mom's) This are mostly twin-homes with some condos mixed in but there is a strong sense of community.

    Housing-wise I see some long term duds for sale in my area, attempts at fixer-uppers, but asking close to 700K and no traffic to speak of.  Cardiff is a place I just might not buy, but part of that is I am freed up since the kids are in private schools, but if I were thinking of starting a family or had a young family, I'd buy here.  As it is I'll probably rent here for a while, as I am not interested in buying anywhere, anytime soon.

    Bang for your buck wise though the part of Encinitas that starts at El Camino Real and Encinitas Blvd, all the way up to and including South Carlsbad/La Costa you get more for your money, and it's not that much further from the beach.  If you consider where I live off of Birmingham, East of the 5, am I going to walk to the beach?  I could but it's not very practical to carry a surfboard that far up hill.  So if I have to drive to the beach why not go inland a couple of miles and get a decent house?

    I can't speak to Carmel Valley it didn't really appeal to me.

    As to star-testing between Encinitas or Carmel Valley, I say who really cares.  If someone picked one town over the other for that reason I can't just can't see the point.  Pick CV if you like the commute, like more condos, whatever, but the schools in Encinitas are more than adequate. I would recommend a new person to the area not even consider star-testing as a factor between the two communities.

    From the kids I talk to, Torrey Pines can be a very hard place to go to HS if you are not an elite athlete, an elite academic, super wealthy, or just something that makes you stand out.  The pressure put on kids to be the "best" at something is strong and for the average kid, they feel a bit forgotten there.  Alternative academies are growing in both Encinitas and Carmel Valley for those not wanting to attend the huge high schools.  Just remember our kids (even us Piggs) have a greater chance of turning out average, and it can make attending these elite high schools tough.

    October 31, 2007 at 2:49 PM #93835
    LostCat
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    SImply RENT. Do not buy. Get a feel for SD. IT’s a big city, with a small town feel. There are so many different communities. RENT RENT RENT RENT…

    Del Cerro is between Downtown and UTC. about a 20-min commmute each. Older houses, but great schools. No HOA ore melaroos. There are houses for rent in that area too.

    October 31, 2007 at 2:49 PM #93870
    LostCat
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    SImply RENT. Do not buy. Get a feel for SD. IT’s a big city, with a small town feel. There are so many different communities. RENT RENT RENT RENT…

    Del Cerro is between Downtown and UTC. about a 20-min commmute each. Older houses, but great schools. No HOA ore melaroos. There are houses for rent in that area too.

    October 31, 2007 at 2:49 PM #93878
    LostCat
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    SImply RENT. Do not buy. Get a feel for SD. IT’s a big city, with a small town feel. There are so many different communities. RENT RENT RENT RENT…

    Del Cerro is between Downtown and UTC. about a 20-min commmute each. Older houses, but great schools. No HOA ore melaroos. There are houses for rent in that area too.

    October 31, 2007 at 3:12 PM #93868
    louise
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    I think I will print out a big map and map the different places out complete with commute info,school info etc and maybe add on some houses for sale in the area. God, my husband will be so impressed with his well informed wife this weekend.

    October 31, 2007 at 3:12 PM #93903
    louise
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    I think I will print out a big map and map the different places out complete with commute info,school info etc and maybe add on some houses for sale in the area. God, my husband will be so impressed with his well informed wife this weekend.

    October 31, 2007 at 3:12 PM #93911
    louise
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    I think I will print out a big map and map the different places out complete with commute info,school info etc and maybe add on some houses for sale in the area. God, my husband will be so impressed with his well informed wife this weekend.

    October 31, 2007 at 3:29 PM #93883
    patientlywaiting
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    Just remember our kids (even us Piggs) have a greater chance of turning out average, and it can make attending these elite high schools tough.

    Nothing wrong with pushing kids to be their best.  That will give them a dose of reality.   

    Telling kids they are special/talented when in reality they are just average is doing them a big disservice.  Loving your kids is one thing but they need to know their limits. 

    We're going to have a whole generation of disfunctional kids who won't know how to operate in a world economy. 

    The real world is like high-school but with much higher stakes. 

    October 31, 2007 at 3:29 PM #93918
    patientlywaiting
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    Just remember our kids (even us Piggs) have a greater chance of turning out average, and it can make attending these elite high schools tough.

    Nothing wrong with pushing kids to be their best.  That will give them a dose of reality.   

    Telling kids they are special/talented when in reality they are just average is doing them a big disservice.  Loving your kids is one thing but they need to know their limits. 

    We're going to have a whole generation of disfunctional kids who won't know how to operate in a world economy. 

    The real world is like high-school but with much higher stakes. 

    October 31, 2007 at 3:29 PM #93926
    patientlywaiting
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    Just remember our kids (even us Piggs) have a greater chance of turning out average, and it can make attending these elite high schools tough.

    Nothing wrong with pushing kids to be their best.  That will give them a dose of reality.   

    Telling kids they are special/talented when in reality they are just average is doing them a big disservice.  Loving your kids is one thing but they need to know their limits. 

    We're going to have a whole generation of disfunctional kids who won't know how to operate in a world economy. 

    The real world is like high-school but with much higher stakes. 

    October 31, 2007 at 4:39 PM #93939
    zk
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    Louise,

    Seems to me you’re getting lots of good advice here. I feel like I have to throw my 2 cents in and advise renting for 2 reasons, either of which would be sufficient on its own (and both of which have been mentioned numerous times).

    1) You’ll probably get more house (maybe a little, maybe a lot) if you rent for a while and buy later.

    2) You’ll get a feel for this great metropolitan area and for what part of it fits you best. You’ll read that one person says “Carmel Valley is great” and another says “I wouldn’t live there.” All these neighborhoods you read about might work for you and they might not. You won’t know until you’ve lived here for a while. Sure, you have some fairly specific criteria listed. And, as you can see, there are several neighborhoods that meet your criteria. But you won’t really have a solid way to know which neighborhood fits your personality and fits the more subtle requirements and desires you have until you’ve been here a while. To me, that reason alone is worth renting. I’d sure be bummed if I bought a house in one part of town and spent the next 20 years thinking, “I should’ve bought a house in xxxx instead.” The extra house (or smaller debt) you’ll get if you wait will just be an extra bonus.

    Good Luck

    October 31, 2007 at 4:39 PM #93976
    zk
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    Louise,

    Seems to me you’re getting lots of good advice here. I feel like I have to throw my 2 cents in and advise renting for 2 reasons, either of which would be sufficient on its own (and both of which have been mentioned numerous times).

    1) You’ll probably get more house (maybe a little, maybe a lot) if you rent for a while and buy later.

    2) You’ll get a feel for this great metropolitan area and for what part of it fits you best. You’ll read that one person says “Carmel Valley is great” and another says “I wouldn’t live there.” All these neighborhoods you read about might work for you and they might not. You won’t know until you’ve lived here for a while. Sure, you have some fairly specific criteria listed. And, as you can see, there are several neighborhoods that meet your criteria. But you won’t really have a solid way to know which neighborhood fits your personality and fits the more subtle requirements and desires you have until you’ve been here a while. To me, that reason alone is worth renting. I’d sure be bummed if I bought a house in one part of town and spent the next 20 years thinking, “I should’ve bought a house in xxxx instead.” The extra house (or smaller debt) you’ll get if you wait will just be an extra bonus.

    Good Luck

    October 31, 2007 at 4:39 PM #93983
    zk
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    Louise,

    Seems to me you’re getting lots of good advice here. I feel like I have to throw my 2 cents in and advise renting for 2 reasons, either of which would be sufficient on its own (and both of which have been mentioned numerous times).

    1) You’ll probably get more house (maybe a little, maybe a lot) if you rent for a while and buy later.

    2) You’ll get a feel for this great metropolitan area and for what part of it fits you best. You’ll read that one person says “Carmel Valley is great” and another says “I wouldn’t live there.” All these neighborhoods you read about might work for you and they might not. You won’t know until you’ve lived here for a while. Sure, you have some fairly specific criteria listed. And, as you can see, there are several neighborhoods that meet your criteria. But you won’t really have a solid way to know which neighborhood fits your personality and fits the more subtle requirements and desires you have until you’ve been here a while. To me, that reason alone is worth renting. I’d sure be bummed if I bought a house in one part of town and spent the next 20 years thinking, “I should’ve bought a house in xxxx instead.” The extra house (or smaller debt) you’ll get if you wait will just be an extra bonus.

    Good Luck

    October 31, 2007 at 4:59 PM #93948
    justbought
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    bad things about Carmel Valley besides $$$:
    – no shopping nearby (Malls, Target store, etc)
    – no good & cheap eats nearby (especially Asian food)
    – everything closes early
    – homes, parks, & schools and not much else.
    – kids racing bicycles on your street

    October 31, 2007 at 4:59 PM #93985
    justbought
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    bad things about Carmel Valley besides $$$:
    – no shopping nearby (Malls, Target store, etc)
    – no good & cheap eats nearby (especially Asian food)
    – everything closes early
    – homes, parks, & schools and not much else.
    – kids racing bicycles on your street

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