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December 1, 2009 at 3:26 PM #489142December 1, 2009 at 4:07 PM #489628UCGalParticipant
[quote=beanmaestro]I have to admit, I don’t really follow the logic in these limits. Our expenses break down more or less as follows (well, before we bought a house)
25% taxes
35% savings
15% rent
25% other expensesOther than not being stupid enough to grossly overpay for a house, I don’t see why we couldn’t spend 50%+ of our gross income on a house.[/quote]
Sure – you have 50% you could spend on housing (35% savings + 15% rent)… but you’re not typical.
The 45% is based on *most* people… In other words the non-piggs that don’t save 35% of their gross income. Up until very recently the savings rate in the US was actually negative (spending more than earning)… Now it’s a few percent.
December 1, 2009 at 4:07 PM #488991UCGalParticipant[quote=beanmaestro]I have to admit, I don’t really follow the logic in these limits. Our expenses break down more or less as follows (well, before we bought a house)
25% taxes
35% savings
15% rent
25% other expensesOther than not being stupid enough to grossly overpay for a house, I don’t see why we couldn’t spend 50%+ of our gross income on a house.[/quote]
Sure – you have 50% you could spend on housing (35% savings + 15% rent)… but you’re not typical.
The 45% is based on *most* people… In other words the non-piggs that don’t save 35% of their gross income. Up until very recently the savings rate in the US was actually negative (spending more than earning)… Now it’s a few percent.
December 1, 2009 at 4:07 PM #489859UCGalParticipant[quote=beanmaestro]I have to admit, I don’t really follow the logic in these limits. Our expenses break down more or less as follows (well, before we bought a house)
25% taxes
35% savings
15% rent
25% other expensesOther than not being stupid enough to grossly overpay for a house, I don’t see why we couldn’t spend 50%+ of our gross income on a house.[/quote]
Sure – you have 50% you could spend on housing (35% savings + 15% rent)… but you’re not typical.
The 45% is based on *most* people… In other words the non-piggs that don’t save 35% of their gross income. Up until very recently the savings rate in the US was actually negative (spending more than earning)… Now it’s a few percent.
December 1, 2009 at 4:07 PM #489541UCGalParticipant[quote=beanmaestro]I have to admit, I don’t really follow the logic in these limits. Our expenses break down more or less as follows (well, before we bought a house)
25% taxes
35% savings
15% rent
25% other expensesOther than not being stupid enough to grossly overpay for a house, I don’t see why we couldn’t spend 50%+ of our gross income on a house.[/quote]
Sure – you have 50% you could spend on housing (35% savings + 15% rent)… but you’re not typical.
The 45% is based on *most* people… In other words the non-piggs that don’t save 35% of their gross income. Up until very recently the savings rate in the US was actually negative (spending more than earning)… Now it’s a few percent.
December 1, 2009 at 4:07 PM #489157UCGalParticipant[quote=beanmaestro]I have to admit, I don’t really follow the logic in these limits. Our expenses break down more or less as follows (well, before we bought a house)
25% taxes
35% savings
15% rent
25% other expensesOther than not being stupid enough to grossly overpay for a house, I don’t see why we couldn’t spend 50%+ of our gross income on a house.[/quote]
Sure – you have 50% you could spend on housing (35% savings + 15% rent)… but you’re not typical.
The 45% is based on *most* people… In other words the non-piggs that don’t save 35% of their gross income. Up until very recently the savings rate in the US was actually negative (spending more than earning)… Now it’s a few percent.
December 1, 2009 at 4:40 PM #489879beanmaestroParticipantI appreciate that it’s based on a simplification of statistics, but if Family A makes twice what Family B makes, then Family A should be able to handle a higher percentage loan than Family B, since they could cut their non-house expenses further than Family B if needed.
Or maybe I’m just in the minority where costs are negotiably decoupled from income…
December 1, 2009 at 4:40 PM #489561beanmaestroParticipantI appreciate that it’s based on a simplification of statistics, but if Family A makes twice what Family B makes, then Family A should be able to handle a higher percentage loan than Family B, since they could cut their non-house expenses further than Family B if needed.
Or maybe I’m just in the minority where costs are negotiably decoupled from income…
December 1, 2009 at 4:40 PM #489177beanmaestroParticipantI appreciate that it’s based on a simplification of statistics, but if Family A makes twice what Family B makes, then Family A should be able to handle a higher percentage loan than Family B, since they could cut their non-house expenses further than Family B if needed.
Or maybe I’m just in the minority where costs are negotiably decoupled from income…
December 1, 2009 at 4:40 PM #489648beanmaestroParticipantI appreciate that it’s based on a simplification of statistics, but if Family A makes twice what Family B makes, then Family A should be able to handle a higher percentage loan than Family B, since they could cut their non-house expenses further than Family B if needed.
Or maybe I’m just in the minority where costs are negotiably decoupled from income…
December 1, 2009 at 4:40 PM #489011beanmaestroParticipantI appreciate that it’s based on a simplification of statistics, but if Family A makes twice what Family B makes, then Family A should be able to handle a higher percentage loan than Family B, since they could cut their non-house expenses further than Family B if needed.
Or maybe I’m just in the minority where costs are negotiably decoupled from income…
December 1, 2009 at 5:28 PM #489581ArrayaParticipantFannie’s defaults have gone parabolic, it’s about time.
December 1, 2009 at 5:28 PM #489899ArrayaParticipantFannie’s defaults have gone parabolic, it’s about time.
December 1, 2009 at 5:28 PM #489197ArrayaParticipantFannie’s defaults have gone parabolic, it’s about time.
December 1, 2009 at 5:28 PM #489668ArrayaParticipantFannie’s defaults have gone parabolic, it’s about time.
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