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January 9, 2009 at 10:59 PM #14798January 10, 2009 at 5:24 AM #3266484plexownerParticipant
So how do you suggest that we get in the game?
Shorting treasury bonds seems too obvious – when the game is that obvious I have to wonder who’s being gamed
Bill Gross at Pimco appears to be talking about moving out of treasury bonds and into municipal bonds since the cities and states are likely to be receiving bailouts in 2009 – does that mean I should be front running Pimco and the govt by buying municipal bonds?
My current strategy is to stay the hell out of Wall Street’s games and protect my assets – in 2008 that strategy kept me from losing 40-50% in equities while both of my gold coins increased in value by 5%
Please enlighten me as to how I can play the game – thanks!
January 10, 2009 at 5:24 AM #3269864plexownerParticipantSo how do you suggest that we get in the game?
Shorting treasury bonds seems too obvious – when the game is that obvious I have to wonder who’s being gamed
Bill Gross at Pimco appears to be talking about moving out of treasury bonds and into municipal bonds since the cities and states are likely to be receiving bailouts in 2009 – does that mean I should be front running Pimco and the govt by buying municipal bonds?
My current strategy is to stay the hell out of Wall Street’s games and protect my assets – in 2008 that strategy kept me from losing 40-50% in equities while both of my gold coins increased in value by 5%
Please enlighten me as to how I can play the game – thanks!
January 10, 2009 at 5:24 AM #3270574plexownerParticipantSo how do you suggest that we get in the game?
Shorting treasury bonds seems too obvious – when the game is that obvious I have to wonder who’s being gamed
Bill Gross at Pimco appears to be talking about moving out of treasury bonds and into municipal bonds since the cities and states are likely to be receiving bailouts in 2009 – does that mean I should be front running Pimco and the govt by buying municipal bonds?
My current strategy is to stay the hell out of Wall Street’s games and protect my assets – in 2008 that strategy kept me from losing 40-50% in equities while both of my gold coins increased in value by 5%
Please enlighten me as to how I can play the game – thanks!
January 10, 2009 at 5:24 AM #3270764plexownerParticipantSo how do you suggest that we get in the game?
Shorting treasury bonds seems too obvious – when the game is that obvious I have to wonder who’s being gamed
Bill Gross at Pimco appears to be talking about moving out of treasury bonds and into municipal bonds since the cities and states are likely to be receiving bailouts in 2009 – does that mean I should be front running Pimco and the govt by buying municipal bonds?
My current strategy is to stay the hell out of Wall Street’s games and protect my assets – in 2008 that strategy kept me from losing 40-50% in equities while both of my gold coins increased in value by 5%
Please enlighten me as to how I can play the game – thanks!
January 10, 2009 at 5:24 AM #3271614plexownerParticipantSo how do you suggest that we get in the game?
Shorting treasury bonds seems too obvious – when the game is that obvious I have to wonder who’s being gamed
Bill Gross at Pimco appears to be talking about moving out of treasury bonds and into municipal bonds since the cities and states are likely to be receiving bailouts in 2009 – does that mean I should be front running Pimco and the govt by buying municipal bonds?
My current strategy is to stay the hell out of Wall Street’s games and protect my assets – in 2008 that strategy kept me from losing 40-50% in equities while both of my gold coins increased in value by 5%
Please enlighten me as to how I can play the game – thanks!
January 10, 2009 at 12:00 PM #326781Chris Scoreboard JohnstonParticipantWatch the COT reports for the financial markets, that is how. The commercials tipped off the bull move in bonds right on schedule for those who knew how to read it. They also tipped off the stock selloff right at the top, moves in GOLD and OIL as well.
In general I agree with this take although determining what the insiders are doing in advance requires alot of guessing and I do not guess when I put my money at risk. It is better to have tools like the cot report which gives info about 3 days after the fact, so very timely.
The best way to track the PPT is actually to watch the premium between the cash and the futures in the S&P at certain times during the day, mostly 10, 10:30, and 11 am and noonish PST, so 4 specific times. When it expands indicating a buy program at those times, you can easily get on that train for a good run. This can also be large institutions and not the PPT. It is most often the PPT on the late day saves on downward moves. Most people don’t trade intraday, but for those that do, this is one way to follow the insiders.
I wish I had ways for other things like this, and if I did I would probably hog them to myself anyway.
One area that I think is worth considering is anything that involves unions. With a heavy democratic control being in place, I think they will intervene when large unions are in peril to save them, so that might be one area to research. Where there are large unions, what industries, then buy into severe weakness in them anticipating a govt handout to save them. This will be risky as you will be buying penny stocks most likely to do it. If you could find discounted bonds in these areas in might be a better bet. Also, look at infrastructure stocks, that is an obvious place where money will flow very shortly.
January 10, 2009 at 12:00 PM #327119Chris Scoreboard JohnstonParticipantWatch the COT reports for the financial markets, that is how. The commercials tipped off the bull move in bonds right on schedule for those who knew how to read it. They also tipped off the stock selloff right at the top, moves in GOLD and OIL as well.
In general I agree with this take although determining what the insiders are doing in advance requires alot of guessing and I do not guess when I put my money at risk. It is better to have tools like the cot report which gives info about 3 days after the fact, so very timely.
The best way to track the PPT is actually to watch the premium between the cash and the futures in the S&P at certain times during the day, mostly 10, 10:30, and 11 am and noonish PST, so 4 specific times. When it expands indicating a buy program at those times, you can easily get on that train for a good run. This can also be large institutions and not the PPT. It is most often the PPT on the late day saves on downward moves. Most people don’t trade intraday, but for those that do, this is one way to follow the insiders.
I wish I had ways for other things like this, and if I did I would probably hog them to myself anyway.
One area that I think is worth considering is anything that involves unions. With a heavy democratic control being in place, I think they will intervene when large unions are in peril to save them, so that might be one area to research. Where there are large unions, what industries, then buy into severe weakness in them anticipating a govt handout to save them. This will be risky as you will be buying penny stocks most likely to do it. If you could find discounted bonds in these areas in might be a better bet. Also, look at infrastructure stocks, that is an obvious place where money will flow very shortly.
January 10, 2009 at 12:00 PM #327192Chris Scoreboard JohnstonParticipantWatch the COT reports for the financial markets, that is how. The commercials tipped off the bull move in bonds right on schedule for those who knew how to read it. They also tipped off the stock selloff right at the top, moves in GOLD and OIL as well.
In general I agree with this take although determining what the insiders are doing in advance requires alot of guessing and I do not guess when I put my money at risk. It is better to have tools like the cot report which gives info about 3 days after the fact, so very timely.
The best way to track the PPT is actually to watch the premium between the cash and the futures in the S&P at certain times during the day, mostly 10, 10:30, and 11 am and noonish PST, so 4 specific times. When it expands indicating a buy program at those times, you can easily get on that train for a good run. This can also be large institutions and not the PPT. It is most often the PPT on the late day saves on downward moves. Most people don’t trade intraday, but for those that do, this is one way to follow the insiders.
I wish I had ways for other things like this, and if I did I would probably hog them to myself anyway.
One area that I think is worth considering is anything that involves unions. With a heavy democratic control being in place, I think they will intervene when large unions are in peril to save them, so that might be one area to research. Where there are large unions, what industries, then buy into severe weakness in them anticipating a govt handout to save them. This will be risky as you will be buying penny stocks most likely to do it. If you could find discounted bonds in these areas in might be a better bet. Also, look at infrastructure stocks, that is an obvious place where money will flow very shortly.
January 10, 2009 at 12:00 PM #327211Chris Scoreboard JohnstonParticipantWatch the COT reports for the financial markets, that is how. The commercials tipped off the bull move in bonds right on schedule for those who knew how to read it. They also tipped off the stock selloff right at the top, moves in GOLD and OIL as well.
In general I agree with this take although determining what the insiders are doing in advance requires alot of guessing and I do not guess when I put my money at risk. It is better to have tools like the cot report which gives info about 3 days after the fact, so very timely.
The best way to track the PPT is actually to watch the premium between the cash and the futures in the S&P at certain times during the day, mostly 10, 10:30, and 11 am and noonish PST, so 4 specific times. When it expands indicating a buy program at those times, you can easily get on that train for a good run. This can also be large institutions and not the PPT. It is most often the PPT on the late day saves on downward moves. Most people don’t trade intraday, but for those that do, this is one way to follow the insiders.
I wish I had ways for other things like this, and if I did I would probably hog them to myself anyway.
One area that I think is worth considering is anything that involves unions. With a heavy democratic control being in place, I think they will intervene when large unions are in peril to save them, so that might be one area to research. Where there are large unions, what industries, then buy into severe weakness in them anticipating a govt handout to save them. This will be risky as you will be buying penny stocks most likely to do it. If you could find discounted bonds in these areas in might be a better bet. Also, look at infrastructure stocks, that is an obvious place where money will flow very shortly.
January 10, 2009 at 12:00 PM #327294Chris Scoreboard JohnstonParticipantWatch the COT reports for the financial markets, that is how. The commercials tipped off the bull move in bonds right on schedule for those who knew how to read it. They also tipped off the stock selloff right at the top, moves in GOLD and OIL as well.
In general I agree with this take although determining what the insiders are doing in advance requires alot of guessing and I do not guess when I put my money at risk. It is better to have tools like the cot report which gives info about 3 days after the fact, so very timely.
The best way to track the PPT is actually to watch the premium between the cash and the futures in the S&P at certain times during the day, mostly 10, 10:30, and 11 am and noonish PST, so 4 specific times. When it expands indicating a buy program at those times, you can easily get on that train for a good run. This can also be large institutions and not the PPT. It is most often the PPT on the late day saves on downward moves. Most people don’t trade intraday, but for those that do, this is one way to follow the insiders.
I wish I had ways for other things like this, and if I did I would probably hog them to myself anyway.
One area that I think is worth considering is anything that involves unions. With a heavy democratic control being in place, I think they will intervene when large unions are in peril to save them, so that might be one area to research. Where there are large unions, what industries, then buy into severe weakness in them anticipating a govt handout to save them. This will be risky as you will be buying penny stocks most likely to do it. If you could find discounted bonds in these areas in might be a better bet. Also, look at infrastructure stocks, that is an obvious place where money will flow very shortly.
January 10, 2009 at 12:17 PM #326796paramountParticipantOne way to play the game: Right now investors are in US dollars because relative to other currencies it is still safe.
However, as other economies improve (Europe, Brazil, China) there will be an outflow out of US $$ into euros and other currencies – probably by the end of 2009.
This will start the hyperinflation period so many are talking about.
Here is the play: Starting in the 2nd half of 2009, start buying gold or gold stocks (GG)and foreign stocks.
Well, that’s according to Jim Jubak of MSN Money.
January 10, 2009 at 12:17 PM #327135paramountParticipantOne way to play the game: Right now investors are in US dollars because relative to other currencies it is still safe.
However, as other economies improve (Europe, Brazil, China) there will be an outflow out of US $$ into euros and other currencies – probably by the end of 2009.
This will start the hyperinflation period so many are talking about.
Here is the play: Starting in the 2nd half of 2009, start buying gold or gold stocks (GG)and foreign stocks.
Well, that’s according to Jim Jubak of MSN Money.
January 10, 2009 at 12:17 PM #327207paramountParticipantOne way to play the game: Right now investors are in US dollars because relative to other currencies it is still safe.
However, as other economies improve (Europe, Brazil, China) there will be an outflow out of US $$ into euros and other currencies – probably by the end of 2009.
This will start the hyperinflation period so many are talking about.
Here is the play: Starting in the 2nd half of 2009, start buying gold or gold stocks (GG)and foreign stocks.
Well, that’s according to Jim Jubak of MSN Money.
January 10, 2009 at 12:17 PM #327226paramountParticipantOne way to play the game: Right now investors are in US dollars because relative to other currencies it is still safe.
However, as other economies improve (Europe, Brazil, China) there will be an outflow out of US $$ into euros and other currencies – probably by the end of 2009.
This will start the hyperinflation period so many are talking about.
Here is the play: Starting in the 2nd half of 2009, start buying gold or gold stocks (GG)and foreign stocks.
Well, that’s according to Jim Jubak of MSN Money.
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