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[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=Rt.66]
Would you like to continue on the path we are on, or would a strong national effort to return us to our profitable manufacturing roots be better than more of this:

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Scarlet: “Return us to our PROFITABLE MANUFACTURING ROOTS”.

I would be the first to argue that the US needs to return to it’s profitable manufacturing roots, however, organized labor has done more to destroy profitable American manufacturing than any other force, including counter-productive US trade policies.

Not only does this completely demolish your arguments regarding organized labor and it’s perceived “benefits”, but it supports the contention that America’s return as a manufacturing superpower will come about in spite of unions and organized labor and not because of them.[/quote]

Scarlet: Okay, show me the part where I said I’m against a return to US manufacturing prominence. Can’t find it? You know why? BECAUSE IT ISN’T THERE! To the contrary. What I said was that I was all for a return to American manufacturing prominence, but without the “deadweight” effects of organized labor/unions.

Since that doesn’t conform to your worldview (being a lackey for organized labor), you lied and claimed I was AGAINST American manufacturing, which is not what I said at all.

It’s interesting that anyone who doesn’t agree with your worldview is “anti-American” and a “traitor”.

My grandma left Germany in 1935 for the United States to get away from people just like YOU.

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[quote=flu]Wow, people in this economy still actually get paid to blog…I thought all the fluff jobs were being eliminated in this economic condition.

Yawn…Someone wake me up after page 10 on this thread…[/quote]

Flu, I’ll tell you why I started this thread when/if it reaches page 10.

[Rt.66]

[quote=flu]Wow, people in this economy still actually get paid to blog…I thought all the fluff jobs were being eliminated in this economic condition.

Yawn…Someone wake me up after page 10 on this thread…[/quote]

Flu, I’ll tell you why I started this thread when/if it reaches page 10.

[Rt.66]

[quote=flu]Wow, people in this economy still actually get paid to blog…I thought all the fluff jobs were being eliminated in this economic condition.

Yawn…Someone wake me up after page 10 on this thread…[/quote]

Flu, I’ll tell you why I started this thread when/if it reaches page 10.

[Rt.66]

[quote=flu]Wow, people in this economy still actually get paid to blog…I thought all the fluff jobs were being eliminated in this economic condition.

Yawn…Someone wake me up after page 10 on this thread…[/quote]

Flu, I’ll tell you why I started this thread when/if it reaches page 10.

[Rt.66]

[quote=flu]Wow, people in this economy still actually get paid to blog…I thought all the fluff jobs were being eliminated in this economic condition.

Yawn…Someone wake me up after page 10 on this thread…[/quote]

Flu, I’ll tell you why I started this thread when/if it reaches page 10.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Rt.66]Allen, really? Nothing either of us says to each other is going to budge us towards the other’s perspective.

We’ve been down this road. You won’t quit or learn so why bother?

It’s impossible to prove that we are not screwing ourselves through our self serving, short sighted actions. Numbers don’t lie, take a look at unemployment and our deficits, something has got to change. Our path is unsustainable.[/quote]

Scarlet: Simply stated, organized labor/unions destroyed American manufacturing competitiveness. Period. Deal with it. No less an organization than the US Chamber of Commerce (which is devoted to helping American businesses compete and prosper) says so.

There is no argument to counter that one. You want jobs to come back to the US? So do I. And I know the best way to ensure that happening: Get rid of the influence of unions and organized labor. End of story.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Rt.66]Allen, really? Nothing either of us says to each other is going to budge us towards the other’s perspective.

We’ve been down this road. You won’t quit or learn so why bother?

It’s impossible to prove that we are not screwing ourselves through our self serving, short sighted actions. Numbers don’t lie, take a look at unemployment and our deficits, something has got to change. Our path is unsustainable.[/quote]

Scarlet: Simply stated, organized labor/unions destroyed American manufacturing competitiveness. Period. Deal with it. No less an organization than the US Chamber of Commerce (which is devoted to helping American businesses compete and prosper) says so.

There is no argument to counter that one. You want jobs to come back to the US? So do I. And I know the best way to ensure that happening: Get rid of the influence of unions and organized labor. End of story.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Rt.66]Allen, really? Nothing either of us says to each other is going to budge us towards the other’s perspective.

We’ve been down this road. You won’t quit or learn so why bother?

It’s impossible to prove that we are not screwing ourselves through our self serving, short sighted actions. Numbers don’t lie, take a look at unemployment and our deficits, something has got to change. Our path is unsustainable.[/quote]

Scarlet: Simply stated, organized labor/unions destroyed American manufacturing competitiveness. Period. Deal with it. No less an organization than the US Chamber of Commerce (which is devoted to helping American businesses compete and prosper) says so.

There is no argument to counter that one. You want jobs to come back to the US? So do I. And I know the best way to ensure that happening: Get rid of the influence of unions and organized labor. End of story.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Rt.66]Allen, really? Nothing either of us says to each other is going to budge us towards the other’s perspective.

We’ve been down this road. You won’t quit or learn so why bother?

It’s impossible to prove that we are not screwing ourselves through our self serving, short sighted actions. Numbers don’t lie, take a look at unemployment and our deficits, something has got to change. Our path is unsustainable.[/quote]

Scarlet: Simply stated, organized labor/unions destroyed American manufacturing competitiveness. Period. Deal with it. No less an organization than the US Chamber of Commerce (which is devoted to helping American businesses compete and prosper) says so.

There is no argument to counter that one. You want jobs to come back to the US? So do I. And I know the best way to ensure that happening: Get rid of the influence of unions and organized labor. End of story.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Rt.66]Allen, really? Nothing either of us says to each other is going to budge us towards the other’s perspective.

We’ve been down this road. You won’t quit or learn so why bother?

It’s impossible to prove that we are not screwing ourselves through our self serving, short sighted actions. Numbers don’t lie, take a look at unemployment and our deficits, something has got to change. Our path is unsustainable.[/quote]

Scarlet: Simply stated, organized labor/unions destroyed American manufacturing competitiveness. Period. Deal with it. No less an organization than the US Chamber of Commerce (which is devoted to helping American businesses compete and prosper) says so.

There is no argument to counter that one. You want jobs to come back to the US? So do I. And I know the best way to ensure that happening: Get rid of the influence of unions and organized labor. End of story.

[Rt.66]

Sorry Allen.

All along I thought we were on opposite sides of the fence here. I guess I should have been reading.

Really, I apologize.

[Rt.66]

Sorry Allen.

All along I thought we were on opposite sides of the fence here. I guess I should have been reading.

Really, I apologize.

[Rt.66]

Sorry Allen.

All along I thought we were on opposite sides of the fence here. I guess I should have been reading.

Really, I apologize.

[Rt.66]

Sorry Allen.

All along I thought we were on opposite sides of the fence here. I guess I should have been reading.

Really, I apologize.

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