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July 27, 2009 at 12:27 PM #438193July 27, 2009 at 1:49 PM #437426
Eugene
Participant[quote=CONCHO]First, we need to become #1 in agriculture.
I know you were just being sarcastic, but it made me curious so I looked it up. We are in fourth place for agricultural output in dollars worldwide. Only China, India, and Brazil are ahead of us, and two of those countries have more than double our population. Per capita, only Brazil beats the US for agricultural output in dollars.[/quote]
The way to go is to compare agricultural output per square mile. We’re #4 worldwide by total area, behind Russia, Canada, and almost tied with China, way ahead of India and Brazil. I think that proves my thesis that our output is too low. And why is it too low? Because a lot of our food production is outsourced to foreign countries such as Mexico and Brazil, and many wholesome jobs in agriculture have been lost, and we have free traders and organized labor to thank for that.
We’re forced to import rice from China and wine from Italy. We’re not even in the top 20 in banana production (three largest producers are China, India, Brazil). Just think about all those jobs lost, or never created, because our nascent banana industry was smothered by farm workers’ unions (darn that Cezar Chavez to heck!) and shot down by competition from China and India.
An interesting site
http://faostat.fao.org/site/339/default.aspx
Did you know that Venezuela and Italy both produce hundreds of millions of dollars worth of rabbit meat every year? Italy grows more kiwis than New Zealand, and United States produce more turkey meat than the rest of the world combined. China is all over the place, #1 in such disparate products as tomatoes, chestnuts, and sheep milk.
July 27, 2009 at 1:49 PM #437628Participant[quote=CONCHO]First, we need to become #1 in agriculture.
I know you were just being sarcastic, but it made me curious so I looked it up. We are in fourth place for agricultural output in dollars worldwide. Only China, India, and Brazil are ahead of us, and two of those countries have more than double our population. Per capita, only Brazil beats the US for agricultural output in dollars.[/quote]
The way to go is to compare agricultural output per square mile. We’re #4 worldwide by total area, behind Russia, Canada, and almost tied with China, way ahead of India and Brazil. I think that proves my thesis that our output is too low. And why is it too low? Because a lot of our food production is outsourced to foreign countries such as Mexico and Brazil, and many wholesome jobs in agriculture have been lost, and we have free traders and organized labor to thank for that.
We’re forced to import rice from China and wine from Italy. We’re not even in the top 20 in banana production (three largest producers are China, India, Brazil). Just think about all those jobs lost, or never created, because our nascent banana industry was smothered by farm workers’ unions (darn that Cezar Chavez to heck!) and shot down by competition from China and India.
An interesting site
http://faostat.fao.org/site/339/default.aspx
Did you know that Venezuela and Italy both produce hundreds of millions of dollars worth of rabbit meat every year? Italy grows more kiwis than New Zealand, and United States produce more turkey meat than the rest of the world combined. China is all over the place, #1 in such disparate products as tomatoes, chestnuts, and sheep milk.
July 27, 2009 at 1:49 PM #437943Participant[quote=CONCHO]First, we need to become #1 in agriculture.
I know you were just being sarcastic, but it made me curious so I looked it up. We are in fourth place for agricultural output in dollars worldwide. Only China, India, and Brazil are ahead of us, and two of those countries have more than double our population. Per capita, only Brazil beats the US for agricultural output in dollars.[/quote]
The way to go is to compare agricultural output per square mile. We’re #4 worldwide by total area, behind Russia, Canada, and almost tied with China, way ahead of India and Brazil. I think that proves my thesis that our output is too low. And why is it too low? Because a lot of our food production is outsourced to foreign countries such as Mexico and Brazil, and many wholesome jobs in agriculture have been lost, and we have free traders and organized labor to thank for that.
We’re forced to import rice from China and wine from Italy. We’re not even in the top 20 in banana production (three largest producers are China, India, Brazil). Just think about all those jobs lost, or never created, because our nascent banana industry was smothered by farm workers’ unions (darn that Cezar Chavez to heck!) and shot down by competition from China and India.
An interesting site
http://faostat.fao.org/site/339/default.aspx
Did you know that Venezuela and Italy both produce hundreds of millions of dollars worth of rabbit meat every year? Italy grows more kiwis than New Zealand, and United States produce more turkey meat than the rest of the world combined. China is all over the place, #1 in such disparate products as tomatoes, chestnuts, and sheep milk.
July 27, 2009 at 1:49 PM #438015Participant[quote=CONCHO]First, we need to become #1 in agriculture.
I know you were just being sarcastic, but it made me curious so I looked it up. We are in fourth place for agricultural output in dollars worldwide. Only China, India, and Brazil are ahead of us, and two of those countries have more than double our population. Per capita, only Brazil beats the US for agricultural output in dollars.[/quote]
The way to go is to compare agricultural output per square mile. We’re #4 worldwide by total area, behind Russia, Canada, and almost tied with China, way ahead of India and Brazil. I think that proves my thesis that our output is too low. And why is it too low? Because a lot of our food production is outsourced to foreign countries such as Mexico and Brazil, and many wholesome jobs in agriculture have been lost, and we have free traders and organized labor to thank for that.
We’re forced to import rice from China and wine from Italy. We’re not even in the top 20 in banana production (three largest producers are China, India, Brazil). Just think about all those jobs lost, or never created, because our nascent banana industry was smothered by farm workers’ unions (darn that Cezar Chavez to heck!) and shot down by competition from China and India.
An interesting site
http://faostat.fao.org/site/339/default.aspx
Did you know that Venezuela and Italy both produce hundreds of millions of dollars worth of rabbit meat every year? Italy grows more kiwis than New Zealand, and United States produce more turkey meat than the rest of the world combined. China is all over the place, #1 in such disparate products as tomatoes, chestnuts, and sheep milk.
July 27, 2009 at 1:49 PM #438183Participant[quote=CONCHO]First, we need to become #1 in agriculture.
I know you were just being sarcastic, but it made me curious so I looked it up. We are in fourth place for agricultural output in dollars worldwide. Only China, India, and Brazil are ahead of us, and two of those countries have more than double our population. Per capita, only Brazil beats the US for agricultural output in dollars.[/quote]
The way to go is to compare agricultural output per square mile. We’re #4 worldwide by total area, behind Russia, Canada, and almost tied with China, way ahead of India and Brazil. I think that proves my thesis that our output is too low. And why is it too low? Because a lot of our food production is outsourced to foreign countries such as Mexico and Brazil, and many wholesome jobs in agriculture have been lost, and we have free traders and organized labor to thank for that.
We’re forced to import rice from China and wine from Italy. We’re not even in the top 20 in banana production (three largest producers are China, India, Brazil). Just think about all those jobs lost, or never created, because our nascent banana industry was smothered by farm workers’ unions (darn that Cezar Chavez to heck!) and shot down by competition from China and India.
An interesting site
http://faostat.fao.org/site/339/default.aspx
Did you know that Venezuela and Italy both produce hundreds of millions of dollars worth of rabbit meat every year? Italy grows more kiwis than New Zealand, and United States produce more turkey meat than the rest of the world combined. China is all over the place, #1 in such disparate products as tomatoes, chestnuts, and sheep milk.
July 27, 2009 at 3:31 PM #437557sobmaz
ParticipantGood post.
I always get a kick out of those who fear we might start a “trade war”. The Boogie Man Trade War.
How can a country that buys far more than it sells lose a trade war?
One example………………………….
After 30 years of complaining Japan still makes it very difficult for many American companies to sell in Japan yet they can import whatever they want. If we cut imports of Japanese cars by 50% until they play fair, who would win that battle?July 27, 2009 at 3:31 PM #437758ParticipantGood post.
I always get a kick out of those who fear we might start a “trade war”. The Boogie Man Trade War.
How can a country that buys far more than it sells lose a trade war?
One example………………………….
After 30 years of complaining Japan still makes it very difficult for many American companies to sell in Japan yet they can import whatever they want. If we cut imports of Japanese cars by 50% until they play fair, who would win that battle?July 27, 2009 at 3:31 PM #438075ParticipantGood post.
I always get a kick out of those who fear we might start a “trade war”. The Boogie Man Trade War.
How can a country that buys far more than it sells lose a trade war?
One example………………………….
After 30 years of complaining Japan still makes it very difficult for many American companies to sell in Japan yet they can import whatever they want. If we cut imports of Japanese cars by 50% until they play fair, who would win that battle?July 27, 2009 at 3:31 PM #438147ParticipantGood post.
I always get a kick out of those who fear we might start a “trade war”. The Boogie Man Trade War.
How can a country that buys far more than it sells lose a trade war?
One example………………………….
After 30 years of complaining Japan still makes it very difficult for many American companies to sell in Japan yet they can import whatever they want. If we cut imports of Japanese cars by 50% until they play fair, who would win that battle?July 27, 2009 at 3:31 PM #438315ParticipantGood post.
I always get a kick out of those who fear we might start a “trade war”. The Boogie Man Trade War.
How can a country that buys far more than it sells lose a trade war?
One example………………………….
After 30 years of complaining Japan still makes it very difficult for many American companies to sell in Japan yet they can import whatever they want. If we cut imports of Japanese cars by 50% until they play fair, who would win that battle?July 27, 2009 at 3:45 PM #437586
CoronitaParticipant[quote=sobmaz]Good post.
I always get a kick out of those who fear we might start a “trade war”. The Boogie Man Trade War.
How can a country that buys far more than it sells lose a trade war?
One example………………………….
After 30 years of complaining Japan still makes it very difficult for many American companies to sell in Japan yet they can import whatever they want. If we cut imports of Japanese cars by 50% until they play fair, who would win that battle?[/quote]Well considering that what is going to pull the U.S. out of this recession/depression are U.S. businesses that produce to sell overseas in places like asia, um folks that work at these U.S. companies that all the sudden can’t turn a profit overseas…That includes just about every multi-national company that employs both domestic and overseas employees. The likes of several chip companies, several high tech telco, wireless,etc.
The days are numbered for U.S. companies that depend on american consumers solely for turning buck… Even GM knows this. As I stated. China’s domestic car market sold more cars over the previous period than the U.S….Follow where the wealth is going.
July 27, 2009 at 3:45 PM #437787CoronitaParticipant[quote=sobmaz]Good post.
I always get a kick out of those who fear we might start a “trade war”. The Boogie Man Trade War.
How can a country that buys far more than it sells lose a trade war?
One example………………………….
After 30 years of complaining Japan still makes it very difficult for many American companies to sell in Japan yet they can import whatever they want. If we cut imports of Japanese cars by 50% until they play fair, who would win that battle?[/quote]Well considering that what is going to pull the U.S. out of this recession/depression are U.S. businesses that produce to sell overseas in places like asia, um folks that work at these U.S. companies that all the sudden can’t turn a profit overseas…That includes just about every multi-national company that employs both domestic and overseas employees. The likes of several chip companies, several high tech telco, wireless,etc.
The days are numbered for U.S. companies that depend on american consumers solely for turning buck… Even GM knows this. As I stated. China’s domestic car market sold more cars over the previous period than the U.S….Follow where the wealth is going.
July 27, 2009 at 3:45 PM #438104CoronitaParticipant[quote=sobmaz]Good post.
I always get a kick out of those who fear we might start a “trade war”. The Boogie Man Trade War.
How can a country that buys far more than it sells lose a trade war?
One example………………………….
After 30 years of complaining Japan still makes it very difficult for many American companies to sell in Japan yet they can import whatever they want. If we cut imports of Japanese cars by 50% until they play fair, who would win that battle?[/quote]Well considering that what is going to pull the U.S. out of this recession/depression are U.S. businesses that produce to sell overseas in places like asia, um folks that work at these U.S. companies that all the sudden can’t turn a profit overseas…That includes just about every multi-national company that employs both domestic and overseas employees. The likes of several chip companies, several high tech telco, wireless,etc.
The days are numbered for U.S. companies that depend on american consumers solely for turning buck… Even GM knows this. As I stated. China’s domestic car market sold more cars over the previous period than the U.S….Follow where the wealth is going.
July 27, 2009 at 3:45 PM #438177CoronitaParticipant[quote=sobmaz]Good post.
I always get a kick out of those who fear we might start a “trade war”. The Boogie Man Trade War.
How can a country that buys far more than it sells lose a trade war?
One example………………………….
After 30 years of complaining Japan still makes it very difficult for many American companies to sell in Japan yet they can import whatever they want. If we cut imports of Japanese cars by 50% until they play fair, who would win that battle?[/quote]Well considering that what is going to pull the U.S. out of this recession/depression are U.S. businesses that produce to sell overseas in places like asia, um folks that work at these U.S. companies that all the sudden can’t turn a profit overseas…That includes just about every multi-national company that employs both domestic and overseas employees. The likes of several chip companies, several high tech telco, wireless,etc.
The days are numbered for U.S. companies that depend on american consumers solely for turning buck… Even GM knows this. As I stated. China’s domestic car market sold more cars over the previous period than the U.S….Follow where the wealth is going.
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