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August 10, 2011 at 1:01 PM #717269August 10, 2011 at 1:22 PM #718113sdrealtorParticipant
Very accurate summary eavesdropper and exactly as I remember things. The MOVE group was terroristic to the neighborhoods. That doesnt seem to be told quite so much in the outside media accounts. People were horrified that they dropped a bomb and let the whole block burn down but no tears were shed for the MOVE members.
August 10, 2011 at 1:22 PM #718471sdrealtorParticipantVery accurate summary eavesdropper and exactly as I remember things. The MOVE group was terroristic to the neighborhoods. That doesnt seem to be told quite so much in the outside media accounts. People were horrified that they dropped a bomb and let the whole block burn down but no tears were shed for the MOVE members.
August 10, 2011 at 1:22 PM #717960sdrealtorParticipantVery accurate summary eavesdropper and exactly as I remember things. The MOVE group was terroristic to the neighborhoods. That doesnt seem to be told quite so much in the outside media accounts. People were horrified that they dropped a bomb and let the whole block burn down but no tears were shed for the MOVE members.
August 10, 2011 at 1:22 PM #717274sdrealtorParticipantVery accurate summary eavesdropper and exactly as I remember things. The MOVE group was terroristic to the neighborhoods. That doesnt seem to be told quite so much in the outside media accounts. People were horrified that they dropped a bomb and let the whole block burn down but no tears were shed for the MOVE members.
August 10, 2011 at 1:22 PM #717365sdrealtorParticipantVery accurate summary eavesdropper and exactly as I remember things. The MOVE group was terroristic to the neighborhoods. That doesnt seem to be told quite so much in the outside media accounts. People were horrified that they dropped a bomb and let the whole block burn down but no tears were shed for the MOVE members.
August 10, 2011 at 1:38 PM #717279eavesdropperParticipant[quote=LAAFTERHOURS]I remember in high school that roxborough was touted as a rough neighborhood but as I aged and got to know the city, I realized more and more those claims were a bit over the top. I cant believe they are attempting to gentrify Chester. They have stood up a casino there (of all places). We had to drive through there to get to the airport before the blue route opened. I give them an A for effort in trying the things they are doing.
Oh and before I forget, “Fly eagles fly, on the road to victory!”[/quote]
That’s out-and-out BS re: Roxborough. At that time, Roxborough was a middle-class mixed blue collar/white collar neighborhood. However, it’s proximity to North Philly made living there an exercise in caution (as it is in any inner-city neighborhood). In fact, I can remember visiting friends in Roxborough when I was 20, and made a wrong turn off Henry Ave. I landed up *very* lost for about 30 minutes in the worst area of North Philly. A rather surreal (and scary) experience.
I know…..Chester, right? I couldn’t believe it, either. However, I can definitely see the potential. But it is gonna take a boatload of money to accomplish, and even more to maintain. You’re not just dealing with a down-on-its-luck slum. The surrounding area has to be considered, also, and there’s some serious deterioration of that area of Delco. Chester is one of those all-or-nothing propositions, and I’d want to examine the cost-benefit analyses very closely before sinking any of my hard-earned money into that project.
August 10, 2011 at 1:38 PM #717965eavesdropperParticipant[quote=LAAFTERHOURS]I remember in high school that roxborough was touted as a rough neighborhood but as I aged and got to know the city, I realized more and more those claims were a bit over the top. I cant believe they are attempting to gentrify Chester. They have stood up a casino there (of all places). We had to drive through there to get to the airport before the blue route opened. I give them an A for effort in trying the things they are doing.
Oh and before I forget, “Fly eagles fly, on the road to victory!”[/quote]
That’s out-and-out BS re: Roxborough. At that time, Roxborough was a middle-class mixed blue collar/white collar neighborhood. However, it’s proximity to North Philly made living there an exercise in caution (as it is in any inner-city neighborhood). In fact, I can remember visiting friends in Roxborough when I was 20, and made a wrong turn off Henry Ave. I landed up *very* lost for about 30 minutes in the worst area of North Philly. A rather surreal (and scary) experience.
I know…..Chester, right? I couldn’t believe it, either. However, I can definitely see the potential. But it is gonna take a boatload of money to accomplish, and even more to maintain. You’re not just dealing with a down-on-its-luck slum. The surrounding area has to be considered, also, and there’s some serious deterioration of that area of Delco. Chester is one of those all-or-nothing propositions, and I’d want to examine the cost-benefit analyses very closely before sinking any of my hard-earned money into that project.
August 10, 2011 at 1:38 PM #718476eavesdropperParticipant[quote=LAAFTERHOURS]I remember in high school that roxborough was touted as a rough neighborhood but as I aged and got to know the city, I realized more and more those claims were a bit over the top. I cant believe they are attempting to gentrify Chester. They have stood up a casino there (of all places). We had to drive through there to get to the airport before the blue route opened. I give them an A for effort in trying the things they are doing.
Oh and before I forget, “Fly eagles fly, on the road to victory!”[/quote]
That’s out-and-out BS re: Roxborough. At that time, Roxborough was a middle-class mixed blue collar/white collar neighborhood. However, it’s proximity to North Philly made living there an exercise in caution (as it is in any inner-city neighborhood). In fact, I can remember visiting friends in Roxborough when I was 20, and made a wrong turn off Henry Ave. I landed up *very* lost for about 30 minutes in the worst area of North Philly. A rather surreal (and scary) experience.
I know…..Chester, right? I couldn’t believe it, either. However, I can definitely see the potential. But it is gonna take a boatload of money to accomplish, and even more to maintain. You’re not just dealing with a down-on-its-luck slum. The surrounding area has to be considered, also, and there’s some serious deterioration of that area of Delco. Chester is one of those all-or-nothing propositions, and I’d want to examine the cost-benefit analyses very closely before sinking any of my hard-earned money into that project.
August 10, 2011 at 1:38 PM #718118eavesdropperParticipant[quote=LAAFTERHOURS]I remember in high school that roxborough was touted as a rough neighborhood but as I aged and got to know the city, I realized more and more those claims were a bit over the top. I cant believe they are attempting to gentrify Chester. They have stood up a casino there (of all places). We had to drive through there to get to the airport before the blue route opened. I give them an A for effort in trying the things they are doing.
Oh and before I forget, “Fly eagles fly, on the road to victory!”[/quote]
That’s out-and-out BS re: Roxborough. At that time, Roxborough was a middle-class mixed blue collar/white collar neighborhood. However, it’s proximity to North Philly made living there an exercise in caution (as it is in any inner-city neighborhood). In fact, I can remember visiting friends in Roxborough when I was 20, and made a wrong turn off Henry Ave. I landed up *very* lost for about 30 minutes in the worst area of North Philly. A rather surreal (and scary) experience.
I know…..Chester, right? I couldn’t believe it, either. However, I can definitely see the potential. But it is gonna take a boatload of money to accomplish, and even more to maintain. You’re not just dealing with a down-on-its-luck slum. The surrounding area has to be considered, also, and there’s some serious deterioration of that area of Delco. Chester is one of those all-or-nothing propositions, and I’d want to examine the cost-benefit analyses very closely before sinking any of my hard-earned money into that project.
August 10, 2011 at 1:38 PM #717370eavesdropperParticipant[quote=LAAFTERHOURS]I remember in high school that roxborough was touted as a rough neighborhood but as I aged and got to know the city, I realized more and more those claims were a bit over the top. I cant believe they are attempting to gentrify Chester. They have stood up a casino there (of all places). We had to drive through there to get to the airport before the blue route opened. I give them an A for effort in trying the things they are doing.
Oh and before I forget, “Fly eagles fly, on the road to victory!”[/quote]
That’s out-and-out BS re: Roxborough. At that time, Roxborough was a middle-class mixed blue collar/white collar neighborhood. However, it’s proximity to North Philly made living there an exercise in caution (as it is in any inner-city neighborhood). In fact, I can remember visiting friends in Roxborough when I was 20, and made a wrong turn off Henry Ave. I landed up *very* lost for about 30 minutes in the worst area of North Philly. A rather surreal (and scary) experience.
I know…..Chester, right? I couldn’t believe it, either. However, I can definitely see the potential. But it is gonna take a boatload of money to accomplish, and even more to maintain. You’re not just dealing with a down-on-its-luck slum. The surrounding area has to be considered, also, and there’s some serious deterioration of that area of Delco. Chester is one of those all-or-nothing propositions, and I’d want to examine the cost-benefit analyses very closely before sinking any of my hard-earned money into that project.
August 10, 2011 at 1:52 PM #717294eavesdropperParticipant[quote=briansd1]I’m still getting familiar with Philly. I’m not there that much so I stay mostly in City Center. I make it a point to drive to the other neighborhoods to get a better lay of the land.
It’s interesting how you only really get to know a city after living in it, or at least visit frequently. [/quote]
Agree with your philosophy 100%, Brian. And Philly does have some great neighborhoods. I’m an architecture junkie, and some terrific examples in Philly. However, it can be painful to go through some of the residential neighborhoods and see the reno “butchering” that has occurred over the years. There’s a stretch of South Broad Street below Wash Ave, where someone back in the 70s bought a row of 4 or 6 great old enormous classic brownstones. They then proceeded to put aluminum siding over their facades (I’ll pause to allow for involuntary retching)…..and then installed a fake mansard roof across the entire stretch of buildings that covered the top 1/3 of the facades. It was some kind of shiny synthetic material that was supposed to resemble cedar shakes (because nothing says late 19th century brownstone elegance like shiny cedar shakes, right?)
It was probably the most egregious renovation I’ve ever come across.
August 10, 2011 at 1:52 PM #717980eavesdropperParticipant[quote=briansd1]I’m still getting familiar with Philly. I’m not there that much so I stay mostly in City Center. I make it a point to drive to the other neighborhoods to get a better lay of the land.
It’s interesting how you only really get to know a city after living in it, or at least visit frequently. [/quote]
Agree with your philosophy 100%, Brian. And Philly does have some great neighborhoods. I’m an architecture junkie, and some terrific examples in Philly. However, it can be painful to go through some of the residential neighborhoods and see the reno “butchering” that has occurred over the years. There’s a stretch of South Broad Street below Wash Ave, where someone back in the 70s bought a row of 4 or 6 great old enormous classic brownstones. They then proceeded to put aluminum siding over their facades (I’ll pause to allow for involuntary retching)…..and then installed a fake mansard roof across the entire stretch of buildings that covered the top 1/3 of the facades. It was some kind of shiny synthetic material that was supposed to resemble cedar shakes (because nothing says late 19th century brownstone elegance like shiny cedar shakes, right?)
It was probably the most egregious renovation I’ve ever come across.
August 10, 2011 at 1:52 PM #718490eavesdropperParticipant[quote=briansd1]I’m still getting familiar with Philly. I’m not there that much so I stay mostly in City Center. I make it a point to drive to the other neighborhoods to get a better lay of the land.
It’s interesting how you only really get to know a city after living in it, or at least visit frequently. [/quote]
Agree with your philosophy 100%, Brian. And Philly does have some great neighborhoods. I’m an architecture junkie, and some terrific examples in Philly. However, it can be painful to go through some of the residential neighborhoods and see the reno “butchering” that has occurred over the years. There’s a stretch of South Broad Street below Wash Ave, where someone back in the 70s bought a row of 4 or 6 great old enormous classic brownstones. They then proceeded to put aluminum siding over their facades (I’ll pause to allow for involuntary retching)…..and then installed a fake mansard roof across the entire stretch of buildings that covered the top 1/3 of the facades. It was some kind of shiny synthetic material that was supposed to resemble cedar shakes (because nothing says late 19th century brownstone elegance like shiny cedar shakes, right?)
It was probably the most egregious renovation I’ve ever come across.
August 10, 2011 at 1:52 PM #717384eavesdropperParticipant[quote=briansd1]I’m still getting familiar with Philly. I’m not there that much so I stay mostly in City Center. I make it a point to drive to the other neighborhoods to get a better lay of the land.
It’s interesting how you only really get to know a city after living in it, or at least visit frequently. [/quote]
Agree with your philosophy 100%, Brian. And Philly does have some great neighborhoods. I’m an architecture junkie, and some terrific examples in Philly. However, it can be painful to go through some of the residential neighborhoods and see the reno “butchering” that has occurred over the years. There’s a stretch of South Broad Street below Wash Ave, where someone back in the 70s bought a row of 4 or 6 great old enormous classic brownstones. They then proceeded to put aluminum siding over their facades (I’ll pause to allow for involuntary retching)…..and then installed a fake mansard roof across the entire stretch of buildings that covered the top 1/3 of the facades. It was some kind of shiny synthetic material that was supposed to resemble cedar shakes (because nothing says late 19th century brownstone elegance like shiny cedar shakes, right?)
It was probably the most egregious renovation I’ve ever come across.
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