Florida is pretty nice

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Florida Negatives

1) That Oil Spill isn’t over by a long shot, so the panhandle and gulf coast are very risky still.

2) Hurricanes.

3) #2 means insurance continues increasing in price.
The Redneck republicans may denounce global warming but the insurance actuaries are looking at real losses coming and have started jacking premiums.
I know people with 4X insurance increases. Insurance should be like property tax on an annual basis, instead it’s more like the mortgage for older homes.

4) Floridians : Inbred, degenerates, half were pirates the other half were hard core confederates.

5) Global Warming, any seal level rise and the place is hosed. south florida is mostl everglades, if sea levels rise 3 feet, most of Florida will be swamp.

6) Habitat and ecological collapse, most of the ecology there is on the edge and ready to fail.
The everglades are awreck and the rest of the state isn’t much better.

7) So all in all, i’d rather not be there.

[briansd1]

There was a report recently about how our economy is suffering because we can’t move since many of us are trapped in our houses.

Mobility makes our economy dynamic. And if we stopped moving like we did in the last 50 years, we’d be poorer.

That’s an economic fact.
http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/the-monitors-view/2010/0730/The-US-economy-slows-and-so-does-worker-mobility

Not counting the bubble years, if you buy a house and don’t stay in it for at least 10 years to amortize the transaction costs, then you’re better off renting.

There are many of way providing stability to your family without buying.

Kids don’t want care about houses. Actually, if you’re going to financially stretch, do it to take your kids on trips to the Great Wall of China, the Pyramids of Egypt, Jerusalem, Istanbul, safari in Africa, etc… Participate in exchange programs with kids from other countries. They will remember the trips, the fun experiences, and the good times forever.

[briansd1]

There was a report recently about how our economy is suffering because we can’t move since many of us are trapped in our houses.

Mobility makes our economy dynamic. And if we stopped moving like we did in the last 50 years, we’d be poorer.

That’s an economic fact.
http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/the-monitors-view/2010/0730/The-US-economy-slows-and-so-does-worker-mobility

Not counting the bubble years, if you buy a house and don’t stay in it for at least 10 years to amortize the transaction costs, then you’re better off renting.

There are many of way providing stability to your family without buying.

Kids don’t want care about houses. Actually, if you’re going to financially stretch, do it to take your kids on trips to the Great Wall of China, the Pyramids of Egypt, Jerusalem, Istanbul, safari in Africa, etc… Participate in exchange programs with kids from other countries. They will remember the trips, the fun experiences, and the good times forever.

[briansd1]

There was a report recently about how our economy is suffering because we can’t move since many of us are trapped in our houses.

Mobility makes our economy dynamic. And if we stopped moving like we did in the last 50 years, we’d be poorer.

That’s an economic fact.
http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/the-monitors-view/2010/0730/The-US-economy-slows-and-so-does-worker-mobility

Not counting the bubble years, if you buy a house and don’t stay in it for at least 10 years to amortize the transaction costs, then you’re better off renting.

There are many of way providing stability to your family without buying.

Kids don’t want care about houses. Actually, if you’re going to financially stretch, do it to take your kids on trips to the Great Wall of China, the Pyramids of Egypt, Jerusalem, Istanbul, safari in Africa, etc… Participate in exchange programs with kids from other countries. They will remember the trips, the fun experiences, and the good times forever.

[briansd1]

There was a report recently about how our economy is suffering because we can’t move since many of us are trapped in our houses.

Mobility makes our economy dynamic. And if we stopped moving like we did in the last 50 years, we’d be poorer.

That’s an economic fact.
http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/the-monitors-view/2010/0730/The-US-economy-slows-and-so-does-worker-mobility

Not counting the bubble years, if you buy a house and don’t stay in it for at least 10 years to amortize the transaction costs, then you’re better off renting.

There are many of way providing stability to your family without buying.

Kids don’t want care about houses. Actually, if you’re going to financially stretch, do it to take your kids on trips to the Great Wall of China, the Pyramids of Egypt, Jerusalem, Istanbul, safari in Africa, etc… Participate in exchange programs with kids from other countries. They will remember the trips, the fun experiences, and the good times forever.

[briansd1]

There was a report recently about how our economy is suffering because we can’t move since many of us are trapped in our houses.

Mobility makes our economy dynamic. And if we stopped moving like we did in the last 50 years, we’d be poorer.

That’s an economic fact.
http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/the-monitors-view/2010/0730/The-US-economy-slows-and-so-does-worker-mobility

Not counting the bubble years, if you buy a house and don’t stay in it for at least 10 years to amortize the transaction costs, then you’re better off renting.

There are many of way providing stability to your family without buying.

Kids don’t want care about houses. Actually, if you’re going to financially stretch, do it to take your kids on trips to the Great Wall of China, the Pyramids of Egypt, Jerusalem, Istanbul, safari in Africa, etc… Participate in exchange programs with kids from other countries. They will remember the trips, the fun experiences, and the good times forever.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=ctr70]”I also must have lift-serviced skiing within a couple of hours of my home, so Florida is out for me”

If you are talking about Big Bear, I wouldn’t even call that skiing. I would rather not ski at all than go to Big Bear.

You have a crushing 7 hour drive to get to Mammoth to get any real skiiing living in SD. With all the money you would save on housing in FL, you could just fly to REAL skiiing in Utah or CO 3-4 times a year! A flight from FL to Salt Lake is faster than driving to Mammoth.[/quote]

Very true, ctr70, I have flown to CO to ski but IMO, this is a VERY expensive ski-cation.

I have stayed overnight at Big Bear resorts but I don’t think they’re worth it, either.

Regarding Mammoth and Tahoe resorts, if you rent a condo and purchase all your own food for a week close to home and carry it in ice chest(s) (to save a couple hundred more) and also have *YOUR OWN* vehicle to drive to different lifts to start from in the mornings, then driving is the way to go (7.5 to 11 hrs – depending on conditions). I have also driven to CO toting all this stuff, but took a larger vehicle and 2-3 drivers – to trade off driving.

I have also flown to CO to ski. If you are going to eat lunch and/or dinner out every day at the resort and/or rent a vehicle when you deplane, this will significantly add to the cost of an already-expensive trip. Buying groceries and carrying them back to your condo on a free shuttle is doable but most groceries are much more expensive in ski towns, even in the same stores we have at home (i.e. Vons/Safeway). Must be the “remote trucking,” monopolistic and “captive-audience” factors – lol!

I do agree that FL RE is DIRT CHEAP right now. I have some very well-off relatives considering buying property there, furnishing it, leaving it vacant and hiring an occasional gardener, just so they can use it to golf there two weeks per year, in February :=)

[bearishgurl]

[quote=ctr70]”I also must have lift-serviced skiing within a couple of hours of my home, so Florida is out for me”

If you are talking about Big Bear, I wouldn’t even call that skiing. I would rather not ski at all than go to Big Bear.

You have a crushing 7 hour drive to get to Mammoth to get any real skiiing living in SD. With all the money you would save on housing in FL, you could just fly to REAL skiiing in Utah or CO 3-4 times a year! A flight from FL to Salt Lake is faster than driving to Mammoth.[/quote]

Very true, ctr70, I have flown to CO to ski but IMO, this is a VERY expensive ski-cation.

I have stayed overnight at Big Bear resorts but I don’t think they’re worth it, either.

Regarding Mammoth and Tahoe resorts, if you rent a condo and purchase all your own food for a week close to home and carry it in ice chest(s) (to save a couple hundred more) and also have *YOUR OWN* vehicle to drive to different lifts to start from in the mornings, then driving is the way to go (7.5 to 11 hrs – depending on conditions). I have also driven to CO toting all this stuff, but took a larger vehicle and 2-3 drivers – to trade off driving.

I have also flown to CO to ski. If you are going to eat lunch and/or dinner out every day at the resort and/or rent a vehicle when you deplane, this will significantly add to the cost of an already-expensive trip. Buying groceries and carrying them back to your condo on a free shuttle is doable but most groceries are much more expensive in ski towns, even in the same stores we have at home (i.e. Vons/Safeway). Must be the “remote trucking,” monopolistic and “captive-audience” factors – lol!

I do agree that FL RE is DIRT CHEAP right now. I have some very well-off relatives considering buying property there, furnishing it, leaving it vacant and hiring an occasional gardener, just so they can use it to golf there two weeks per year, in February :=)

[bearishgurl]

[quote=ctr70]”I also must have lift-serviced skiing within a couple of hours of my home, so Florida is out for me”

If you are talking about Big Bear, I wouldn’t even call that skiing. I would rather not ski at all than go to Big Bear.

You have a crushing 7 hour drive to get to Mammoth to get any real skiiing living in SD. With all the money you would save on housing in FL, you could just fly to REAL skiiing in Utah or CO 3-4 times a year! A flight from FL to Salt Lake is faster than driving to Mammoth.[/quote]

Very true, ctr70, I have flown to CO to ski but IMO, this is a VERY expensive ski-cation.

I have stayed overnight at Big Bear resorts but I don’t think they’re worth it, either.

Regarding Mammoth and Tahoe resorts, if you rent a condo and purchase all your own food for a week close to home and carry it in ice chest(s) (to save a couple hundred more) and also have *YOUR OWN* vehicle to drive to different lifts to start from in the mornings, then driving is the way to go (7.5 to 11 hrs – depending on conditions). I have also driven to CO toting all this stuff, but took a larger vehicle and 2-3 drivers – to trade off driving.

I have also flown to CO to ski. If you are going to eat lunch and/or dinner out every day at the resort and/or rent a vehicle when you deplane, this will significantly add to the cost of an already-expensive trip. Buying groceries and carrying them back to your condo on a free shuttle is doable but most groceries are much more expensive in ski towns, even in the same stores we have at home (i.e. Vons/Safeway). Must be the “remote trucking,” monopolistic and “captive-audience” factors – lol!

I do agree that FL RE is DIRT CHEAP right now. I have some very well-off relatives considering buying property there, furnishing it, leaving it vacant and hiring an occasional gardener, just so they can use it to golf there two weeks per year, in February :=)

[bearishgurl]

[quote=ctr70]”I also must have lift-serviced skiing within a couple of hours of my home, so Florida is out for me”

If you are talking about Big Bear, I wouldn’t even call that skiing. I would rather not ski at all than go to Big Bear.

You have a crushing 7 hour drive to get to Mammoth to get any real skiiing living in SD. With all the money you would save on housing in FL, you could just fly to REAL skiiing in Utah or CO 3-4 times a year! A flight from FL to Salt Lake is faster than driving to Mammoth.[/quote]

Very true, ctr70, I have flown to CO to ski but IMO, this is a VERY expensive ski-cation.

I have stayed overnight at Big Bear resorts but I don’t think they’re worth it, either.

Regarding Mammoth and Tahoe resorts, if you rent a condo and purchase all your own food for a week close to home and carry it in ice chest(s) (to save a couple hundred more) and also have *YOUR OWN* vehicle to drive to different lifts to start from in the mornings, then driving is the way to go (7.5 to 11 hrs – depending on conditions). I have also driven to CO toting all this stuff, but took a larger vehicle and 2-3 drivers – to trade off driving.

I have also flown to CO to ski. If you are going to eat lunch and/or dinner out every day at the resort and/or rent a vehicle when you deplane, this will significantly add to the cost of an already-expensive trip. Buying groceries and carrying them back to your condo on a free shuttle is doable but most groceries are much more expensive in ski towns, even in the same stores we have at home (i.e. Vons/Safeway). Must be the “remote trucking,” monopolistic and “captive-audience” factors – lol!

I do agree that FL RE is DIRT CHEAP right now. I have some very well-off relatives considering buying property there, furnishing it, leaving it vacant and hiring an occasional gardener, just so they can use it to golf there two weeks per year, in February :=)

[bearishgurl]

[quote=ctr70]”I also must have lift-serviced skiing within a couple of hours of my home, so Florida is out for me”

If you are talking about Big Bear, I wouldn’t even call that skiing. I would rather not ski at all than go to Big Bear.

You have a crushing 7 hour drive to get to Mammoth to get any real skiiing living in SD. With all the money you would save on housing in FL, you could just fly to REAL skiiing in Utah or CO 3-4 times a year! A flight from FL to Salt Lake is faster than driving to Mammoth.[/quote]

Very true, ctr70, I have flown to CO to ski but IMO, this is a VERY expensive ski-cation.

I have stayed overnight at Big Bear resorts but I don’t think they’re worth it, either.

Regarding Mammoth and Tahoe resorts, if you rent a condo and purchase all your own food for a week close to home and carry it in ice chest(s) (to save a couple hundred more) and also have *YOUR OWN* vehicle to drive to different lifts to start from in the mornings, then driving is the way to go (7.5 to 11 hrs – depending on conditions). I have also driven to CO toting all this stuff, but took a larger vehicle and 2-3 drivers – to trade off driving.

I have also flown to CO to ski. If you are going to eat lunch and/or dinner out every day at the resort and/or rent a vehicle when you deplane, this will significantly add to the cost of an already-expensive trip. Buying groceries and carrying them back to your condo on a free shuttle is doable but most groceries are much more expensive in ski towns, even in the same stores we have at home (i.e. Vons/Safeway). Must be the “remote trucking,” monopolistic and “captive-audience” factors – lol!

I do agree that FL RE is DIRT CHEAP right now. I have some very well-off relatives considering buying property there, furnishing it, leaving it vacant and hiring an occasional gardener, just so they can use it to golf there two weeks per year, in February :=)

[bearishgurl]

[quote=briansd1]. . . Kids don’t want care about houses. Actually, if you’re going to financially stretch, do it to take your kids on trips to the Great Wall of China, the Pyramids of Egypt, Jerusalem, Istanbul, safari in Africa, etc… Participate in exchange programs with kids from other countries. They will remember the trips, the fun experiences, and the good times forever.[/quote]

brian, I’ve always owned my residence (currently living in my 10th house here in SD) but this is SO TRUE. Kids are impervious to what their parents go thru to ensure stability for them. They don’t remember or care that you just refinanced to a lower rate, repaired the deck or resurfaced the pool. They’re much more interested in DOING THINGS, spending “quality time” with family and friends, going on outings, etc. At the end of the day, INTERESTING outings, vacations and fun times with friends and family are what they remember about their childhood, NOT their parents’ homeowning baggage.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=briansd1]. . . Kids don’t want care about houses. Actually, if you’re going to financially stretch, do it to take your kids on trips to the Great Wall of China, the Pyramids of Egypt, Jerusalem, Istanbul, safari in Africa, etc… Participate in exchange programs with kids from other countries. They will remember the trips, the fun experiences, and the good times forever.[/quote]

brian, I’ve always owned my residence (currently living in my 10th house here in SD) but this is SO TRUE. Kids are impervious to what their parents go thru to ensure stability for them. They don’t remember or care that you just refinanced to a lower rate, repaired the deck or resurfaced the pool. They’re much more interested in DOING THINGS, spending “quality time” with family and friends, going on outings, etc. At the end of the day, INTERESTING outings, vacations and fun times with friends and family are what they remember about their childhood, NOT their parents’ homeowning baggage.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=briansd1]. . . Kids don’t want care about houses. Actually, if you’re going to financially stretch, do it to take your kids on trips to the Great Wall of China, the Pyramids of Egypt, Jerusalem, Istanbul, safari in Africa, etc… Participate in exchange programs with kids from other countries. They will remember the trips, the fun experiences, and the good times forever.[/quote]

brian, I’ve always owned my residence (currently living in my 10th house here in SD) but this is SO TRUE. Kids are impervious to what their parents go thru to ensure stability for them. They don’t remember or care that you just refinanced to a lower rate, repaired the deck or resurfaced the pool. They’re much more interested in DOING THINGS, spending “quality time” with family and friends, going on outings, etc. At the end of the day, INTERESTING outings, vacations and fun times with friends and family are what they remember about their childhood, NOT their parents’ homeowning baggage.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=briansd1]. . . Kids don’t want care about houses. Actually, if you’re going to financially stretch, do it to take your kids on trips to the Great Wall of China, the Pyramids of Egypt, Jerusalem, Istanbul, safari in Africa, etc… Participate in exchange programs with kids from other countries. They will remember the trips, the fun experiences, and the good times forever.[/quote]

brian, I’ve always owned my residence (currently living in my 10th house here in SD) but this is SO TRUE. Kids are impervious to what their parents go thru to ensure stability for them. They don’t remember or care that you just refinanced to a lower rate, repaired the deck or resurfaced the pool. They’re much more interested in DOING THINGS, spending “quality time” with family and friends, going on outings, etc. At the end of the day, INTERESTING outings, vacations and fun times with friends and family are what they remember about their childhood, NOT their parents’ homeowning baggage.

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