fixation on school districts

[an]

[quote=goldfish]It is simply impossible to send all the kids to better schools. The solutions are:
(1) Make all schools equally good (or bad), AKA communism.
(2) Choice by merit.
(3) Choice by money.
(4) Choice by lottery.
(5) A mixture of the above.

Back to the core point, if you can afford to send your kids to most desirable private schools, you will probably not live in MM anyway. That is my point. The school performance is an indicator of the neighborhood. Even if you have no kid and don’t plan to have kid, you are still likely to live in an area with people similar to you. If you income can support SFR in CV, you may decide to live in less expensive areas such as 4S. However, you are very unlikely to live in Escondido or San Marcos.
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Just because it’s impossible to make all the schools better, doesn’t mean people have to be stuck in their social-economic wrung without an easier way to advance through education. Through choice, you’ll have competition. Competition is what spawn all the new advancements and improvements. US has one of the best University systems, why not apply that to our K-12.

I have to dispute your assumption. I’m one of those parents who would live in MM and send my kids to private school.

[Eugene]

Just because it’s impossible to make all the schools better, doesn’t mean people have to be stuck in their social-economic wrung without an easier way to advance through education.

Your abilities to advance through education are limited by your genetics. If you have good genetics, chances are, you already live in an upper-middle-class neighborhood with good schools. If, by some fluke of nature, you’re a bright kid born to white-trash janitor parents, there are magnet schools (Preuss), GATE programs, etc. So, you’re not entirely on your own.

In the perfect world, all children would be segregated by their learning capabilities. So you won’t have a situation where bright kids are bored because they are not challenged enough, and not-so-bright kids aren’t getting proper education because the class as a whole moves too fast for them. The existing scheme where children are segregated by parents’ incomes is not perfect, but it is a big step in the right direction.

[Eugene]

Just because it’s impossible to make all the schools better, doesn’t mean people have to be stuck in their social-economic wrung without an easier way to advance through education.

Your abilities to advance through education are limited by your genetics. If you have good genetics, chances are, you already live in an upper-middle-class neighborhood with good schools. If, by some fluke of nature, you’re a bright kid born to white-trash janitor parents, there are magnet schools (Preuss), GATE programs, etc. So, you’re not entirely on your own.

In the perfect world, all children would be segregated by their learning capabilities. So you won’t have a situation where bright kids are bored because they are not challenged enough, and not-so-bright kids aren’t getting proper education because the class as a whole moves too fast for them. The existing scheme where children are segregated by parents’ incomes is not perfect, but it is a big step in the right direction.

[Eugene]

Just because it’s impossible to make all the schools better, doesn’t mean people have to be stuck in their social-economic wrung without an easier way to advance through education.

Your abilities to advance through education are limited by your genetics. If you have good genetics, chances are, you already live in an upper-middle-class neighborhood with good schools. If, by some fluke of nature, you’re a bright kid born to white-trash janitor parents, there are magnet schools (Preuss), GATE programs, etc. So, you’re not entirely on your own.

In the perfect world, all children would be segregated by their learning capabilities. So you won’t have a situation where bright kids are bored because they are not challenged enough, and not-so-bright kids aren’t getting proper education because the class as a whole moves too fast for them. The existing scheme where children are segregated by parents’ incomes is not perfect, but it is a big step in the right direction.

[Eugene]

Just because it’s impossible to make all the schools better, doesn’t mean people have to be stuck in their social-economic wrung without an easier way to advance through education.

Your abilities to advance through education are limited by your genetics. If you have good genetics, chances are, you already live in an upper-middle-class neighborhood with good schools. If, by some fluke of nature, you’re a bright kid born to white-trash janitor parents, there are magnet schools (Preuss), GATE programs, etc. So, you’re not entirely on your own.

In the perfect world, all children would be segregated by their learning capabilities. So you won’t have a situation where bright kids are bored because they are not challenged enough, and not-so-bright kids aren’t getting proper education because the class as a whole moves too fast for them. The existing scheme where children are segregated by parents’ incomes is not perfect, but it is a big step in the right direction.

[Eugene]

Just because it’s impossible to make all the schools better, doesn’t mean people have to be stuck in their social-economic wrung without an easier way to advance through education.

Your abilities to advance through education are limited by your genetics. If you have good genetics, chances are, you already live in an upper-middle-class neighborhood with good schools. If, by some fluke of nature, you’re a bright kid born to white-trash janitor parents, there are magnet schools (Preuss), GATE programs, etc. So, you’re not entirely on your own.

In the perfect world, all children would be segregated by their learning capabilities. So you won’t have a situation where bright kids are bored because they are not challenged enough, and not-so-bright kids aren’t getting proper education because the class as a whole moves too fast for them. The existing scheme where children are segregated by parents’ incomes is not perfect, but it is a big step in the right direction.

[Anonymous]

The university system is mostly a mixture of choice by merit and choice by money. The private K-12 is similar. There are also merit-based programs within the public school, especially high school.

Neither you or Mr. McCain is proposing anything to help the social-economically disadvantaged students to perform better.

The competition does exist in public school. You just vote with where you live. Are you suggesting to use a merit based system to decide who goes to which public elementary school? I don’t think it is a bad idea but it will not happen.

[Anonymous]

The university system is mostly a mixture of choice by merit and choice by money. The private K-12 is similar. There are also merit-based programs within the public school, especially high school.

Neither you or Mr. McCain is proposing anything to help the social-economically disadvantaged students to perform better.

The competition does exist in public school. You just vote with where you live. Are you suggesting to use a merit based system to decide who goes to which public elementary school? I don’t think it is a bad idea but it will not happen.

[Anonymous]

The university system is mostly a mixture of choice by merit and choice by money. The private K-12 is similar. There are also merit-based programs within the public school, especially high school.

Neither you or Mr. McCain is proposing anything to help the social-economically disadvantaged students to perform better.

The competition does exist in public school. You just vote with where you live. Are you suggesting to use a merit based system to decide who goes to which public elementary school? I don’t think it is a bad idea but it will not happen.

[Anonymous]

The university system is mostly a mixture of choice by merit and choice by money. The private K-12 is similar. There are also merit-based programs within the public school, especially high school.

Neither you or Mr. McCain is proposing anything to help the social-economically disadvantaged students to perform better.

The competition does exist in public school. You just vote with where you live. Are you suggesting to use a merit based system to decide who goes to which public elementary school? I don’t think it is a bad idea but it will not happen.

[Anonymous]

The university system is mostly a mixture of choice by merit and choice by money. The private K-12 is similar. There are also merit-based programs within the public school, especially high school.

Neither you or Mr. McCain is proposing anything to help the social-economically disadvantaged students to perform better.

The competition does exist in public school. You just vote with where you live. Are you suggesting to use a merit based system to decide who goes to which public elementary school? I don’t think it is a bad idea but it will not happen.

[temeculaguy]

I think goldfish best represents what I was trying to point out earlier. Let go of your personal feeling about schools and just understand that API is not about teachers or schools, they have no magic tricks to teach, they have better students. Not smarter students but kids from more educated parents, so their vocabulary benefits by osmosis and the values instilled are different.

API doesn’t mean the school is better, it means the neigborhood is.

Cardiff, Texas football is an entirely different animal and in no way can my theory be extended to include Texas. It is one of the few places in the world where a town’s identity and pride is directly tied to it’s high school team, more so than professional or college teams. It is also probably the only thing I envy about Texas but I don’t think that phenomena will spread here, it’s a Texas thing.

[temeculaguy]

I think goldfish best represents what I was trying to point out earlier. Let go of your personal feeling about schools and just understand that API is not about teachers or schools, they have no magic tricks to teach, they have better students. Not smarter students but kids from more educated parents, so their vocabulary benefits by osmosis and the values instilled are different.

API doesn’t mean the school is better, it means the neigborhood is.

Cardiff, Texas football is an entirely different animal and in no way can my theory be extended to include Texas. It is one of the few places in the world where a town’s identity and pride is directly tied to it’s high school team, more so than professional or college teams. It is also probably the only thing I envy about Texas but I don’t think that phenomena will spread here, it’s a Texas thing.

[temeculaguy]

I think goldfish best represents what I was trying to point out earlier. Let go of your personal feeling about schools and just understand that API is not about teachers or schools, they have no magic tricks to teach, they have better students. Not smarter students but kids from more educated parents, so their vocabulary benefits by osmosis and the values instilled are different.

API doesn’t mean the school is better, it means the neigborhood is.

Cardiff, Texas football is an entirely different animal and in no way can my theory be extended to include Texas. It is one of the few places in the world where a town’s identity and pride is directly tied to it’s high school team, more so than professional or college teams. It is also probably the only thing I envy about Texas but I don’t think that phenomena will spread here, it’s a Texas thing.

[temeculaguy]

I think goldfish best represents what I was trying to point out earlier. Let go of your personal feeling about schools and just understand that API is not about teachers or schools, they have no magic tricks to teach, they have better students. Not smarter students but kids from more educated parents, so their vocabulary benefits by osmosis and the values instilled are different.

API doesn’t mean the school is better, it means the neigborhood is.

Cardiff, Texas football is an entirely different animal and in no way can my theory be extended to include Texas. It is one of the few places in the world where a town’s identity and pride is directly tied to it’s high school team, more so than professional or college teams. It is also probably the only thing I envy about Texas but I don’t think that phenomena will spread here, it’s a Texas thing.

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