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September 6, 2008 at 9:30 PM #267457September 6, 2008 at 9:36 PM #267158anParticipant
[quote=Wickedheart]
Preuss, are you serious? They are a prime example of what’s wrong with charter schools, rampant cheating and fraud.[/quote]
Proof?[quote=esmith]Also, Sandburg Elementary (Mira Mesa) (908).
The pattern is only partially reversed in corresponding high schools:
San Marcos High: 848
Mt Carmel High: 839
San Pasqual High: 835
Mira Mesa High: 815IOW, much of the differences between scores in the prestigious Poway School District and sub-par San Marcos/Escondido schools can be explained purely by the race factor.
P.S. it looks like the problem is with 4S North specifically. If you rank all schools using non-hispanic white scores, Stonebridge and 4S North are ranked below median in Poway district, #90 and #93 countywide respectively (out of 450 schools). But since they have large numbers of Asians, their overall API scores look good. Conversely, San Elijo Elementary is #50 by non-hispanic white scores, but it has much fewer Asians and more Hispanics, so it ends up ranked slightly lower overall.
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I also noticed schools in 92127/92130/etc does not have Students with Disabilities and English Language Learners, which schools in areas like Mira Mesa/Escondido does. Their scores are considerably lower, which I think make a big impact on the overall API scores as well.September 6, 2008 at 9:36 PM #267374anParticipant[quote=Wickedheart]
Preuss, are you serious? They are a prime example of what’s wrong with charter schools, rampant cheating and fraud.[/quote]
Proof?[quote=esmith]Also, Sandburg Elementary (Mira Mesa) (908).
The pattern is only partially reversed in corresponding high schools:
San Marcos High: 848
Mt Carmel High: 839
San Pasqual High: 835
Mira Mesa High: 815IOW, much of the differences between scores in the prestigious Poway School District and sub-par San Marcos/Escondido schools can be explained purely by the race factor.
P.S. it looks like the problem is with 4S North specifically. If you rank all schools using non-hispanic white scores, Stonebridge and 4S North are ranked below median in Poway district, #90 and #93 countywide respectively (out of 450 schools). But since they have large numbers of Asians, their overall API scores look good. Conversely, San Elijo Elementary is #50 by non-hispanic white scores, but it has much fewer Asians and more Hispanics, so it ends up ranked slightly lower overall.
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I also noticed schools in 92127/92130/etc does not have Students with Disabilities and English Language Learners, which schools in areas like Mira Mesa/Escondido does. Their scores are considerably lower, which I think make a big impact on the overall API scores as well.September 6, 2008 at 9:36 PM #267391anParticipant[quote=Wickedheart]
Preuss, are you serious? They are a prime example of what’s wrong with charter schools, rampant cheating and fraud.[/quote]
Proof?[quote=esmith]Also, Sandburg Elementary (Mira Mesa) (908).
The pattern is only partially reversed in corresponding high schools:
San Marcos High: 848
Mt Carmel High: 839
San Pasqual High: 835
Mira Mesa High: 815IOW, much of the differences between scores in the prestigious Poway School District and sub-par San Marcos/Escondido schools can be explained purely by the race factor.
P.S. it looks like the problem is with 4S North specifically. If you rank all schools using non-hispanic white scores, Stonebridge and 4S North are ranked below median in Poway district, #90 and #93 countywide respectively (out of 450 schools). But since they have large numbers of Asians, their overall API scores look good. Conversely, San Elijo Elementary is #50 by non-hispanic white scores, but it has much fewer Asians and more Hispanics, so it ends up ranked slightly lower overall.
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I also noticed schools in 92127/92130/etc does not have Students with Disabilities and English Language Learners, which schools in areas like Mira Mesa/Escondido does. Their scores are considerably lower, which I think make a big impact on the overall API scores as well.September 6, 2008 at 9:36 PM #267436anParticipant[quote=Wickedheart]
Preuss, are you serious? They are a prime example of what’s wrong with charter schools, rampant cheating and fraud.[/quote]
Proof?[quote=esmith]Also, Sandburg Elementary (Mira Mesa) (908).
The pattern is only partially reversed in corresponding high schools:
San Marcos High: 848
Mt Carmel High: 839
San Pasqual High: 835
Mira Mesa High: 815IOW, much of the differences between scores in the prestigious Poway School District and sub-par San Marcos/Escondido schools can be explained purely by the race factor.
P.S. it looks like the problem is with 4S North specifically. If you rank all schools using non-hispanic white scores, Stonebridge and 4S North are ranked below median in Poway district, #90 and #93 countywide respectively (out of 450 schools). But since they have large numbers of Asians, their overall API scores look good. Conversely, San Elijo Elementary is #50 by non-hispanic white scores, but it has much fewer Asians and more Hispanics, so it ends up ranked slightly lower overall.
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I also noticed schools in 92127/92130/etc does not have Students with Disabilities and English Language Learners, which schools in areas like Mira Mesa/Escondido does. Their scores are considerably lower, which I think make a big impact on the overall API scores as well.September 6, 2008 at 9:36 PM #267468anParticipant[quote=Wickedheart]
Preuss, are you serious? They are a prime example of what’s wrong with charter schools, rampant cheating and fraud.[/quote]
Proof?[quote=esmith]Also, Sandburg Elementary (Mira Mesa) (908).
The pattern is only partially reversed in corresponding high schools:
San Marcos High: 848
Mt Carmel High: 839
San Pasqual High: 835
Mira Mesa High: 815IOW, much of the differences between scores in the prestigious Poway School District and sub-par San Marcos/Escondido schools can be explained purely by the race factor.
P.S. it looks like the problem is with 4S North specifically. If you rank all schools using non-hispanic white scores, Stonebridge and 4S North are ranked below median in Poway district, #90 and #93 countywide respectively (out of 450 schools). But since they have large numbers of Asians, their overall API scores look good. Conversely, San Elijo Elementary is #50 by non-hispanic white scores, but it has much fewer Asians and more Hispanics, so it ends up ranked slightly lower overall.
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I also noticed schools in 92127/92130/etc does not have Students with Disabilities and English Language Learners, which schools in areas like Mira Mesa/Escondido does. Their scores are considerably lower, which I think make a big impact on the overall API scores as well.September 7, 2008 at 3:49 PM #267352WickedheartParticipantProof? Here you go;
and more from our local fish wrap;
NCLB is based on one of the biggest whoppers to come out of the state of Texas, the so-called Texas *cough, choke* Miracle in Education.
and here’s your link for that too.
All your so-called education reform is just a way for educational entrepreneurs to milk the public education system for profit. Which is why I think the SDUSD has been targeted by the reformers. They are one of the largest districts in the nation with a budget of well over a billion a year.
September 7, 2008 at 3:49 PM #267570WickedheartParticipantProof? Here you go;
and more from our local fish wrap;
NCLB is based on one of the biggest whoppers to come out of the state of Texas, the so-called Texas *cough, choke* Miracle in Education.
and here’s your link for that too.
All your so-called education reform is just a way for educational entrepreneurs to milk the public education system for profit. Which is why I think the SDUSD has been targeted by the reformers. They are one of the largest districts in the nation with a budget of well over a billion a year.
September 7, 2008 at 3:49 PM #267585WickedheartParticipantProof? Here you go;
and more from our local fish wrap;
NCLB is based on one of the biggest whoppers to come out of the state of Texas, the so-called Texas *cough, choke* Miracle in Education.
and here’s your link for that too.
All your so-called education reform is just a way for educational entrepreneurs to milk the public education system for profit. Which is why I think the SDUSD has been targeted by the reformers. They are one of the largest districts in the nation with a budget of well over a billion a year.
September 7, 2008 at 3:49 PM #267632WickedheartParticipantProof? Here you go;
and more from our local fish wrap;
NCLB is based on one of the biggest whoppers to come out of the state of Texas, the so-called Texas *cough, choke* Miracle in Education.
and here’s your link for that too.
All your so-called education reform is just a way for educational entrepreneurs to milk the public education system for profit. Which is why I think the SDUSD has been targeted by the reformers. They are one of the largest districts in the nation with a budget of well over a billion a year.
September 7, 2008 at 3:49 PM #267663WickedheartParticipantProof? Here you go;
and more from our local fish wrap;
NCLB is based on one of the biggest whoppers to come out of the state of Texas, the so-called Texas *cough, choke* Miracle in Education.
and here’s your link for that too.
All your so-called education reform is just a way for educational entrepreneurs to milk the public education system for profit. Which is why I think the SDUSD has been targeted by the reformers. They are one of the largest districts in the nation with a budget of well over a billion a year.
September 7, 2008 at 5:07 PM #267372anParticipantThat’s not proof. That’s allegation. Proof would be after the the principal resign and after the school got audited, the API scores plummeted. However, it didn’t. The source of “corruption” as you like to call it has been booted, yet the school still do quite well on their 2008 API score. How do you explain that? The district does not like charter schools and the current system gave the power to the district, which allow them to try to find as many ways as they can to shut down the charter school(s). How many times do you see similar investigation in public schools? I’ve seen these type of “investigation” in other charter school, such as TIP Academy in Encitas. I know the teacher there and there are two sides to every story. The district DO NOT like the fact that charter schools are taking their $ away.
Can you tell me with a straight face that the teachers at public schools are not being pressured to teach to the test or that some of them are not trying to inflate grades? I’ve also heard stories of corruptions in the SDUSD as well, but you’ll never gonna see them get investigated to see where all the money go. All I can say is, if a private elementary school can do well with $8k/yr tuition and SDUSD elementary schools are getting over $9k+/yr, I’d expect them to be better than the private schools, since they can consolidate a lot of the administrative jobs.
September 7, 2008 at 5:07 PM #267591anParticipantThat’s not proof. That’s allegation. Proof would be after the the principal resign and after the school got audited, the API scores plummeted. However, it didn’t. The source of “corruption” as you like to call it has been booted, yet the school still do quite well on their 2008 API score. How do you explain that? The district does not like charter schools and the current system gave the power to the district, which allow them to try to find as many ways as they can to shut down the charter school(s). How many times do you see similar investigation in public schools? I’ve seen these type of “investigation” in other charter school, such as TIP Academy in Encitas. I know the teacher there and there are two sides to every story. The district DO NOT like the fact that charter schools are taking their $ away.
Can you tell me with a straight face that the teachers at public schools are not being pressured to teach to the test or that some of them are not trying to inflate grades? I’ve also heard stories of corruptions in the SDUSD as well, but you’ll never gonna see them get investigated to see where all the money go. All I can say is, if a private elementary school can do well with $8k/yr tuition and SDUSD elementary schools are getting over $9k+/yr, I’d expect them to be better than the private schools, since they can consolidate a lot of the administrative jobs.
September 7, 2008 at 5:07 PM #267605anParticipantThat’s not proof. That’s allegation. Proof would be after the the principal resign and after the school got audited, the API scores plummeted. However, it didn’t. The source of “corruption” as you like to call it has been booted, yet the school still do quite well on their 2008 API score. How do you explain that? The district does not like charter schools and the current system gave the power to the district, which allow them to try to find as many ways as they can to shut down the charter school(s). How many times do you see similar investigation in public schools? I’ve seen these type of “investigation” in other charter school, such as TIP Academy in Encitas. I know the teacher there and there are two sides to every story. The district DO NOT like the fact that charter schools are taking their $ away.
Can you tell me with a straight face that the teachers at public schools are not being pressured to teach to the test or that some of them are not trying to inflate grades? I’ve also heard stories of corruptions in the SDUSD as well, but you’ll never gonna see them get investigated to see where all the money go. All I can say is, if a private elementary school can do well with $8k/yr tuition and SDUSD elementary schools are getting over $9k+/yr, I’d expect them to be better than the private schools, since they can consolidate a lot of the administrative jobs.
September 7, 2008 at 5:07 PM #267652anParticipantThat’s not proof. That’s allegation. Proof would be after the the principal resign and after the school got audited, the API scores plummeted. However, it didn’t. The source of “corruption” as you like to call it has been booted, yet the school still do quite well on their 2008 API score. How do you explain that? The district does not like charter schools and the current system gave the power to the district, which allow them to try to find as many ways as they can to shut down the charter school(s). How many times do you see similar investigation in public schools? I’ve seen these type of “investigation” in other charter school, such as TIP Academy in Encitas. I know the teacher there and there are two sides to every story. The district DO NOT like the fact that charter schools are taking their $ away.
Can you tell me with a straight face that the teachers at public schools are not being pressured to teach to the test or that some of them are not trying to inflate grades? I’ve also heard stories of corruptions in the SDUSD as well, but you’ll never gonna see them get investigated to see where all the money go. All I can say is, if a private elementary school can do well with $8k/yr tuition and SDUSD elementary schools are getting over $9k+/yr, I’d expect them to be better than the private schools, since they can consolidate a lot of the administrative jobs.
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