Financing New Solar Install…. Any advice?

[NotCranky]

Aecetia,

Have you installed ballasted flourescent lights? I guess some people don’t like the light they make, but they do save lots of energy.I know if you have fancy fixtures the conversion is very expensive to get nice replacements. In my case the simple, big box retail ones are good enough and are very inexpensive.

[Eugene]

[quote=briansd1]

Is that to rent and/or operate the equipment, or to dig the hole itself? [/quote]

That is to be allowed to dig holes. On top of that, you have to get a permit (my understanding is, no one will give you a permit unless you’re a well driller contractor or you’re contracted with one) and the permit currently costs ~$500 per hole. In an extreme case like Russell’s, where you need to drill 300 feet down before you hit water, you have to go with a contractor who has specialized drilling equipment anyway, and permitting does not set you back much. But there are places in the county where groundwater is only 20-30 ft from the surface. In those places, you could, in principle, drill a well using hand tools.

Take a look at this site

http://overheaddoorparts.com/index.html

Never had to deal with them, but they look legit to me.

[Eugene]

[quote=briansd1]

Is that to rent and/or operate the equipment, or to dig the hole itself? [/quote]

That is to be allowed to dig holes. On top of that, you have to get a permit (my understanding is, no one will give you a permit unless you’re a well driller contractor or you’re contracted with one) and the permit currently costs ~$500 per hole. In an extreme case like Russell’s, where you need to drill 300 feet down before you hit water, you have to go with a contractor who has specialized drilling equipment anyway, and permitting does not set you back much. But there are places in the county where groundwater is only 20-30 ft from the surface. In those places, you could, in principle, drill a well using hand tools.

Take a look at this site

http://overheaddoorparts.com/index.html

Never had to deal with them, but they look legit to me.

[Eugene]

[quote=briansd1]

Is that to rent and/or operate the equipment, or to dig the hole itself? [/quote]

That is to be allowed to dig holes. On top of that, you have to get a permit (my understanding is, no one will give you a permit unless you’re a well driller contractor or you’re contracted with one) and the permit currently costs ~$500 per hole. In an extreme case like Russell’s, where you need to drill 300 feet down before you hit water, you have to go with a contractor who has specialized drilling equipment anyway, and permitting does not set you back much. But there are places in the county where groundwater is only 20-30 ft from the surface. In those places, you could, in principle, drill a well using hand tools.

Take a look at this site

http://overheaddoorparts.com/index.html

Never had to deal with them, but they look legit to me.

[Eugene]

[quote=briansd1]

Is that to rent and/or operate the equipment, or to dig the hole itself? [/quote]

That is to be allowed to dig holes. On top of that, you have to get a permit (my understanding is, no one will give you a permit unless you’re a well driller contractor or you’re contracted with one) and the permit currently costs ~$500 per hole. In an extreme case like Russell’s, where you need to drill 300 feet down before you hit water, you have to go with a contractor who has specialized drilling equipment anyway, and permitting does not set you back much. But there are places in the county where groundwater is only 20-30 ft from the surface. In those places, you could, in principle, drill a well using hand tools.

Take a look at this site

http://overheaddoorparts.com/index.html

Never had to deal with them, but they look legit to me.

[Eugene]

[quote=briansd1]

Is that to rent and/or operate the equipment, or to dig the hole itself? [/quote]

That is to be allowed to dig holes. On top of that, you have to get a permit (my understanding is, no one will give you a permit unless you’re a well driller contractor or you’re contracted with one) and the permit currently costs ~$500 per hole. In an extreme case like Russell’s, where you need to drill 300 feet down before you hit water, you have to go with a contractor who has specialized drilling equipment anyway, and permitting does not set you back much. But there are places in the county where groundwater is only 20-30 ft from the surface. In those places, you could, in principle, drill a well using hand tools.

Take a look at this site

http://overheaddoorparts.com/index.html

Never had to deal with them, but they look legit to me.

[NotCranky]

300 feet is not extreme in San Diego County, Eugene. In your area there are a few high water tables, but these are fairly exceptional over the larger geographical plot of groundwater. Some other areas of the state and country you can drive a pipe with a jack hammer or whatever and get water. They have true shallow aquifers,most regional ground water is in deep fractured granite. The only way to get it is to go down deep. Just a rough estimate, but the average well I have seen in reviewing the files at the county, is deeper than mine.Now, as rural lots farther away from streams start to get developed, on hilltops and such, some people are drilling 5 or more times the depth of mine. I have been to a houses where the well gave a trickle at 1800′ feet and have heard of deeper.neighboring wells will vary greatly in depth and output. Of two neighbors one got a trickle at 800 feet and another got 225gpm at 300 feet( she had no water until she hit this).

The ground water, besides being deep, is also often of low volume potential. My area is zone restricted for groundwater at 5 acres per dwelling unit and the resource would probably drop significantly at that density.

The well drilling rig typically used in this area is not something I would not mess with even if it could be rented. It is very heavy duty and has too many dangerous moving parts to go at it without some serious OJT.

[NotCranky]

300 feet is not extreme in San Diego County, Eugene. In your area there are a few high water tables, but these are fairly exceptional over the larger geographical plot of groundwater. Some other areas of the state and country you can drive a pipe with a jack hammer or whatever and get water. They have true shallow aquifers,most regional ground water is in deep fractured granite. The only way to get it is to go down deep. Just a rough estimate, but the average well I have seen in reviewing the files at the county, is deeper than mine.Now, as rural lots farther away from streams start to get developed, on hilltops and such, some people are drilling 5 or more times the depth of mine. I have been to a houses where the well gave a trickle at 1800′ feet and have heard of deeper.neighboring wells will vary greatly in depth and output. Of two neighbors one got a trickle at 800 feet and another got 225gpm at 300 feet( she had no water until she hit this).

The ground water, besides being deep, is also often of low volume potential. My area is zone restricted for groundwater at 5 acres per dwelling unit and the resource would probably drop significantly at that density.

The well drilling rig typically used in this area is not something I would not mess with even if it could be rented. It is very heavy duty and has too many dangerous moving parts to go at it without some serious OJT.

[NotCranky]

300 feet is not extreme in San Diego County, Eugene. In your area there are a few high water tables, but these are fairly exceptional over the larger geographical plot of groundwater. Some other areas of the state and country you can drive a pipe with a jack hammer or whatever and get water. They have true shallow aquifers,most regional ground water is in deep fractured granite. The only way to get it is to go down deep. Just a rough estimate, but the average well I have seen in reviewing the files at the county, is deeper than mine.Now, as rural lots farther away from streams start to get developed, on hilltops and such, some people are drilling 5 or more times the depth of mine. I have been to a houses where the well gave a trickle at 1800′ feet and have heard of deeper.neighboring wells will vary greatly in depth and output. Of two neighbors one got a trickle at 800 feet and another got 225gpm at 300 feet( she had no water until she hit this).

The ground water, besides being deep, is also often of low volume potential. My area is zone restricted for groundwater at 5 acres per dwelling unit and the resource would probably drop significantly at that density.

The well drilling rig typically used in this area is not something I would not mess with even if it could be rented. It is very heavy duty and has too many dangerous moving parts to go at it without some serious OJT.

[NotCranky]

300 feet is not extreme in San Diego County, Eugene. In your area there are a few high water tables, but these are fairly exceptional over the larger geographical plot of groundwater. Some other areas of the state and country you can drive a pipe with a jack hammer or whatever and get water. They have true shallow aquifers,most regional ground water is in deep fractured granite. The only way to get it is to go down deep. Just a rough estimate, but the average well I have seen in reviewing the files at the county, is deeper than mine.Now, as rural lots farther away from streams start to get developed, on hilltops and such, some people are drilling 5 or more times the depth of mine. I have been to a houses where the well gave a trickle at 1800′ feet and have heard of deeper.neighboring wells will vary greatly in depth and output. Of two neighbors one got a trickle at 800 feet and another got 225gpm at 300 feet( she had no water until she hit this).

The ground water, besides being deep, is also often of low volume potential. My area is zone restricted for groundwater at 5 acres per dwelling unit and the resource would probably drop significantly at that density.

The well drilling rig typically used in this area is not something I would not mess with even if it could be rented. It is very heavy duty and has too many dangerous moving parts to go at it without some serious OJT.

[NotCranky]

300 feet is not extreme in San Diego County, Eugene. In your area there are a few high water tables, but these are fairly exceptional over the larger geographical plot of groundwater. Some other areas of the state and country you can drive a pipe with a jack hammer or whatever and get water. They have true shallow aquifers,most regional ground water is in deep fractured granite. The only way to get it is to go down deep. Just a rough estimate, but the average well I have seen in reviewing the files at the county, is deeper than mine.Now, as rural lots farther away from streams start to get developed, on hilltops and such, some people are drilling 5 or more times the depth of mine. I have been to a houses where the well gave a trickle at 1800′ feet and have heard of deeper.neighboring wells will vary greatly in depth and output. Of two neighbors one got a trickle at 800 feet and another got 225gpm at 300 feet( she had no water until she hit this).

The ground water, besides being deep, is also often of low volume potential. My area is zone restricted for groundwater at 5 acres per dwelling unit and the resource would probably drop significantly at that density.

The well drilling rig typically used in this area is not something I would not mess with even if it could be rented. It is very heavy duty and has too many dangerous moving parts to go at it without some serious OJT.

[Aecetia]

Russ,

No we have not, but I am going to check them out and it might be a good thing to have in the garage. We did recently convert some to the next generation beyond the curlycues and they look pretty good in the kitchen, where there are 4 flourescents and 6 regular lights. We also have a lamp, which we use at night instead of hitting the switch and lighting them all up. We are converting the bathrooms over to energy savers. It all helps. We had a big wood pile and the insurance company dropped us until we moved/ used it all up. It is hard to win in a rigged game, but I cannot see giving in to the gougers. It is too bad the deregulation was such a mess. SDG&E has been the only game in town for way too long.

[Aecetia]

Russ,

No we have not, but I am going to check them out and it might be a good thing to have in the garage. We did recently convert some to the next generation beyond the curlycues and they look pretty good in the kitchen, where there are 4 flourescents and 6 regular lights. We also have a lamp, which we use at night instead of hitting the switch and lighting them all up. We are converting the bathrooms over to energy savers. It all helps. We had a big wood pile and the insurance company dropped us until we moved/ used it all up. It is hard to win in a rigged game, but I cannot see giving in to the gougers. It is too bad the deregulation was such a mess. SDG&E has been the only game in town for way too long.

[Aecetia]

Russ,

No we have not, but I am going to check them out and it might be a good thing to have in the garage. We did recently convert some to the next generation beyond the curlycues and they look pretty good in the kitchen, where there are 4 flourescents and 6 regular lights. We also have a lamp, which we use at night instead of hitting the switch and lighting them all up. We are converting the bathrooms over to energy savers. It all helps. We had a big wood pile and the insurance company dropped us until we moved/ used it all up. It is hard to win in a rigged game, but I cannot see giving in to the gougers. It is too bad the deregulation was such a mess. SDG&E has been the only game in town for way too long.

[Aecetia]

Russ,

No we have not, but I am going to check them out and it might be a good thing to have in the garage. We did recently convert some to the next generation beyond the curlycues and they look pretty good in the kitchen, where there are 4 flourescents and 6 regular lights. We also have a lamp, which we use at night instead of hitting the switch and lighting them all up. We are converting the bathrooms over to energy savers. It all helps. We had a big wood pile and the insurance company dropped us until we moved/ used it all up. It is hard to win in a rigged game, but I cannot see giving in to the gougers. It is too bad the deregulation was such a mess. SDG&E has been the only game in town for way too long.

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