Fight the $8k tax credit

[Fletch]

“Ill call. Ill waste my time and I know it wont be useful, but Ill call. If I dont do something, I cant throw stones. Atleast it is something. My thread about asking who was opposing this crap came up with nada, so atleast it is something.”

This is my thinking as well. I just wanted to let people know that, the time investment (for me) was so minimal, there was little reason not to.

Incidentally, I intended to post this as a reply to your (DWCAP) thread, but I couldn’t find it after a quick 40 second scan.

[Arraya]

Well go about a useful way then, DWCAP. Stop legitimizing the myth of calling and writing representatives to have your voice heard. It obviously does not work that way. That should have been apparent after the phone calls were 100-1 against the first bailout.

If you really want to make a difference you need to get a bunch of money and hire lobbyists.

That is how the bill was passed. The mortgage, RE and home builder lobbyists worked congress. You can’t beat having several dozen representatives jawboning your elected officials 24/7.

Sure you can make an argument about not being able to throw stones when you don’t do anything but you can also make an argument about doing something that provably does not work and throwing stones as well.

In fact, you could easily make an argument that hiring lobbyists is more effective than voting.

There is your solution, stop voting and calling and hire some lobbyists. Quit pretending that the former makes a difference.

[Arraya]

Well go about a useful way then, DWCAP. Stop legitimizing the myth of calling and writing representatives to have your voice heard. It obviously does not work that way. That should have been apparent after the phone calls were 100-1 against the first bailout.

If you really want to make a difference you need to get a bunch of money and hire lobbyists.

That is how the bill was passed. The mortgage, RE and home builder lobbyists worked congress. You can’t beat having several dozen representatives jawboning your elected officials 24/7.

Sure you can make an argument about not being able to throw stones when you don’t do anything but you can also make an argument about doing something that provably does not work and throwing stones as well.

In fact, you could easily make an argument that hiring lobbyists is more effective than voting.

There is your solution, stop voting and calling and hire some lobbyists. Quit pretending that the former makes a difference.

[Arraya]

Well go about a useful way then, DWCAP. Stop legitimizing the myth of calling and writing representatives to have your voice heard. It obviously does not work that way. That should have been apparent after the phone calls were 100-1 against the first bailout.

If you really want to make a difference you need to get a bunch of money and hire lobbyists.

That is how the bill was passed. The mortgage, RE and home builder lobbyists worked congress. You can’t beat having several dozen representatives jawboning your elected officials 24/7.

Sure you can make an argument about not being able to throw stones when you don’t do anything but you can also make an argument about doing something that provably does not work and throwing stones as well.

In fact, you could easily make an argument that hiring lobbyists is more effective than voting.

There is your solution, stop voting and calling and hire some lobbyists. Quit pretending that the former makes a difference.

[Arraya]

Well go about a useful way then, DWCAP. Stop legitimizing the myth of calling and writing representatives to have your voice heard. It obviously does not work that way. That should have been apparent after the phone calls were 100-1 against the first bailout.

If you really want to make a difference you need to get a bunch of money and hire lobbyists.

That is how the bill was passed. The mortgage, RE and home builder lobbyists worked congress. You can’t beat having several dozen representatives jawboning your elected officials 24/7.

Sure you can make an argument about not being able to throw stones when you don’t do anything but you can also make an argument about doing something that provably does not work and throwing stones as well.

In fact, you could easily make an argument that hiring lobbyists is more effective than voting.

There is your solution, stop voting and calling and hire some lobbyists. Quit pretending that the former makes a difference.

[Arraya]

Well go about a useful way then, DWCAP. Stop legitimizing the myth of calling and writing representatives to have your voice heard. It obviously does not work that way. That should have been apparent after the phone calls were 100-1 against the first bailout.

If you really want to make a difference you need to get a bunch of money and hire lobbyists.

That is how the bill was passed. The mortgage, RE and home builder lobbyists worked congress. You can’t beat having several dozen representatives jawboning your elected officials 24/7.

Sure you can make an argument about not being able to throw stones when you don’t do anything but you can also make an argument about doing something that provably does not work and throwing stones as well.

In fact, you could easily make an argument that hiring lobbyists is more effective than voting.

There is your solution, stop voting and calling and hire some lobbyists. Quit pretending that the former makes a difference.

[DWCAP]

[quote=Arraya]Well go about a useful way then, DWCAP. Stop legitimizing the myth of calling and writing representatives to have your voice heard. It obviously does not work that way. That should have been apparent after the phone calls were 100-1 against the first bailout.

If you really want to make a difference you need to get a bunch of money and hire lobbyists.

That is how the bill was passed. The mortgage, RE and home builder lobbyists worked congress. You can’t beat having several dozen representatives jawboning your elected officials 24/7.

Sure you can make an argument about not being able to throw stones when you don’t do anything but you can also make an argument about doing something that provably does not work and throwing stones as well.

In fact, you could easily make an argument that hiring lobbyists is more effective than voting.

There is your solution, stop voting and calling and hire some lobbyists. Quit pretending that the former makes a difference.[/quote]

All I can do is tell them that all the money in the world wont buy my vote, and that I am one loud SOB who isnt affraid to tell everyone I know, “F that Ahole” and support my reasons why. I dont vote party lines, may the best canadate win.

Or to put it another way, when I get the customary phone calls from family and friends looking to get a crash course in the ballot next year, there wont be any checkmarks for the people who support this shit, if I can help it. Over stimulation and poor policies on housing are the reason we are in the mess. Doing more of the same cause it worked so well last time is insane. Voting for this kinda crap proves to me they have no idea what they are doing, will happliy put our economy in a shitstorm again to get re-elected, and just about anyone else would be better.

And your argument isn’t totally true. Calling about the bailout did work, they voted it down the first time. It was the resulting market crash and fear mongering that drove them to dump our problems on the next generation.

[DWCAP]

[quote=Arraya]Well go about a useful way then, DWCAP. Stop legitimizing the myth of calling and writing representatives to have your voice heard. It obviously does not work that way. That should have been apparent after the phone calls were 100-1 against the first bailout.

If you really want to make a difference you need to get a bunch of money and hire lobbyists.

That is how the bill was passed. The mortgage, RE and home builder lobbyists worked congress. You can’t beat having several dozen representatives jawboning your elected officials 24/7.

Sure you can make an argument about not being able to throw stones when you don’t do anything but you can also make an argument about doing something that provably does not work and throwing stones as well.

In fact, you could easily make an argument that hiring lobbyists is more effective than voting.

There is your solution, stop voting and calling and hire some lobbyists. Quit pretending that the former makes a difference.[/quote]

All I can do is tell them that all the money in the world wont buy my vote, and that I am one loud SOB who isnt affraid to tell everyone I know, “F that Ahole” and support my reasons why. I dont vote party lines, may the best canadate win.

Or to put it another way, when I get the customary phone calls from family and friends looking to get a crash course in the ballot next year, there wont be any checkmarks for the people who support this shit, if I can help it. Over stimulation and poor policies on housing are the reason we are in the mess. Doing more of the same cause it worked so well last time is insane. Voting for this kinda crap proves to me they have no idea what they are doing, will happliy put our economy in a shitstorm again to get re-elected, and just about anyone else would be better.

And your argument isn’t totally true. Calling about the bailout did work, they voted it down the first time. It was the resulting market crash and fear mongering that drove them to dump our problems on the next generation.

[DWCAP]

[quote=Arraya]Well go about a useful way then, DWCAP. Stop legitimizing the myth of calling and writing representatives to have your voice heard. It obviously does not work that way. That should have been apparent after the phone calls were 100-1 against the first bailout.

If you really want to make a difference you need to get a bunch of money and hire lobbyists.

That is how the bill was passed. The mortgage, RE and home builder lobbyists worked congress. You can’t beat having several dozen representatives jawboning your elected officials 24/7.

Sure you can make an argument about not being able to throw stones when you don’t do anything but you can also make an argument about doing something that provably does not work and throwing stones as well.

In fact, you could easily make an argument that hiring lobbyists is more effective than voting.

There is your solution, stop voting and calling and hire some lobbyists. Quit pretending that the former makes a difference.[/quote]

All I can do is tell them that all the money in the world wont buy my vote, and that I am one loud SOB who isnt affraid to tell everyone I know, “F that Ahole” and support my reasons why. I dont vote party lines, may the best canadate win.

Or to put it another way, when I get the customary phone calls from family and friends looking to get a crash course in the ballot next year, there wont be any checkmarks for the people who support this shit, if I can help it. Over stimulation and poor policies on housing are the reason we are in the mess. Doing more of the same cause it worked so well last time is insane. Voting for this kinda crap proves to me they have no idea what they are doing, will happliy put our economy in a shitstorm again to get re-elected, and just about anyone else would be better.

And your argument isn’t totally true. Calling about the bailout did work, they voted it down the first time. It was the resulting market crash and fear mongering that drove them to dump our problems on the next generation.

[DWCAP]

[quote=Arraya]Well go about a useful way then, DWCAP. Stop legitimizing the myth of calling and writing representatives to have your voice heard. It obviously does not work that way. That should have been apparent after the phone calls were 100-1 against the first bailout.

If you really want to make a difference you need to get a bunch of money and hire lobbyists.

That is how the bill was passed. The mortgage, RE and home builder lobbyists worked congress. You can’t beat having several dozen representatives jawboning your elected officials 24/7.

Sure you can make an argument about not being able to throw stones when you don’t do anything but you can also make an argument about doing something that provably does not work and throwing stones as well.

In fact, you could easily make an argument that hiring lobbyists is more effective than voting.

There is your solution, stop voting and calling and hire some lobbyists. Quit pretending that the former makes a difference.[/quote]

All I can do is tell them that all the money in the world wont buy my vote, and that I am one loud SOB who isnt affraid to tell everyone I know, “F that Ahole” and support my reasons why. I dont vote party lines, may the best canadate win.

Or to put it another way, when I get the customary phone calls from family and friends looking to get a crash course in the ballot next year, there wont be any checkmarks for the people who support this shit, if I can help it. Over stimulation and poor policies on housing are the reason we are in the mess. Doing more of the same cause it worked so well last time is insane. Voting for this kinda crap proves to me they have no idea what they are doing, will happliy put our economy in a shitstorm again to get re-elected, and just about anyone else would be better.

And your argument isn’t totally true. Calling about the bailout did work, they voted it down the first time. It was the resulting market crash and fear mongering that drove them to dump our problems on the next generation.

[DWCAP]

[quote=Arraya]Well go about a useful way then, DWCAP. Stop legitimizing the myth of calling and writing representatives to have your voice heard. It obviously does not work that way. That should have been apparent after the phone calls were 100-1 against the first bailout.

If you really want to make a difference you need to get a bunch of money and hire lobbyists.

That is how the bill was passed. The mortgage, RE and home builder lobbyists worked congress. You can’t beat having several dozen representatives jawboning your elected officials 24/7.

Sure you can make an argument about not being able to throw stones when you don’t do anything but you can also make an argument about doing something that provably does not work and throwing stones as well.

In fact, you could easily make an argument that hiring lobbyists is more effective than voting.

There is your solution, stop voting and calling and hire some lobbyists. Quit pretending that the former makes a difference.[/quote]

All I can do is tell them that all the money in the world wont buy my vote, and that I am one loud SOB who isnt affraid to tell everyone I know, “F that Ahole” and support my reasons why. I dont vote party lines, may the best canadate win.

Or to put it another way, when I get the customary phone calls from family and friends looking to get a crash course in the ballot next year, there wont be any checkmarks for the people who support this shit, if I can help it. Over stimulation and poor policies on housing are the reason we are in the mess. Doing more of the same cause it worked so well last time is insane. Voting for this kinda crap proves to me they have no idea what they are doing, will happliy put our economy in a shitstorm again to get re-elected, and just about anyone else would be better.

And your argument isn’t totally true. Calling about the bailout did work, they voted it down the first time. It was the resulting market crash and fear mongering that drove them to dump our problems on the next generation.

[sd_matt]

I think I’ll call about wanting to make a $10k donation, see whom I can talk to and then, ha ha fooled you. F### You!!!

[sd_matt]

I think I’ll call about wanting to make a $10k donation, see whom I can talk to and then, ha ha fooled you. F### You!!!

[sd_matt]

I think I’ll call about wanting to make a $10k donation, see whom I can talk to and then, ha ha fooled you. F### You!!!

[sd_matt]

I think I’ll call about wanting to make a $10k donation, see whom I can talk to and then, ha ha fooled you. F### You!!!

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