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August 19, 2013 at 4:16 PM #764605August 19, 2013 at 4:36 PM #764606The-ShovelerParticipant
There has not been a pandemic in long time.
Not saying it’s going to happen, but you never know.Still waiting for that big asteroid to hit in the pacific, or that volcano off Africa to collapses.
August 19, 2013 at 4:56 PM #764607The-ShovelerParticipantOr This, I mean honestly What could go wrong?
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August 19, 2013 at 7:36 PM #764611moneymakerParticipantWhy limit a computer to the level of human thought? Why not create them to be perfect! That might answer the question of who made god. Perhaps created by an imperfect race to be perfect. Is it possible? i believe so
August 19, 2013 at 7:38 PM #764612SK in CVParticipant[quote=moneymaker]Why limit a computer to the level of human thought? Why not create them to be perfect! That might answer the question of who made god. Perhaps created by an imperfect race to be perfect. Is it possible? i believe so[/quote]
Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that.
August 21, 2013 at 1:06 AM #764640ucodegenParticipant[quote=The-Shoveler]Well it was not every year but there were quite a few because you were getting promotions as well as cost of living raises (based on the cost to BUY a house by the way).
My wages easily doubled every 5 years from 1973 to 1990. My first new car in 1976 was worth about what I paid for when I paid it off in 1979.[/quote] Apply rule of 72… approx increase would be 14.4% not 30% to match that rate of increase. 30% would mean doubling every 3 years not 5.
[quote=SK in CV][quote=moneymaker]Why limit a computer to the level of human thought? Why not create them to be perfect! That might answer the question of who made god. Perhaps created by an imperfect race to be perfect. Is it possible? i believe so[/quote]
Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that.[/quote]
Hummm.. nice reference!! And of course a disaster caused by political types f.. w… l…. c…. n…….. (don’t want to give away the ref, yet)August 21, 2013 at 3:00 AM #764641moneymakerParticipantSince were on the subject of math. Zillow says my place just went up $10,800 in the last 30 days. If I were to add up all the increases since I’ve been checking out Zillow, my place would make me a millionaire, perhaps several times over. Any how who am I to argue, that is unless the gov wants me to start paying taxes on a home worth over a million dollars.
August 21, 2013 at 6:26 AM #764643The-ShovelerParticipantIt was NOT every year but I remember quite a few.
Average U.S.A. home price went from 29K in 1973 to about 125K in 1990.
California home prices went up quite a bit higher in price as did California wages.
I think you would have had to live it.
August 21, 2013 at 7:30 AM #764647The-ShovelerParticipantAnyway, something to think about if we ever start seeing wage inflation north of 8% again.
August 21, 2013 at 8:27 AM #764648allParticipant[quote=SK in CV][quote=moneymaker]Why limit a computer to the level of human thought? Why not create them to be perfect! That might answer the question of who made god. Perhaps created by an imperfect race to be perfect. Is it possible? i believe so[/quote]
Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that.[/quote]
But are you sorry?
August 21, 2013 at 8:37 AM #764649livinincaliParticipant[quote=The-Shoveler]Average U.S.A. home price went from 29K in 1973 to about 125K in 1990.
[/quote]That’s not what this chart says. Seems more like 100K was the average home price in 1990 and it didn’t break 125K until 1999-2000
August 21, 2013 at 9:33 AM #764651The-ShovelerParticipantTry the US Gov census.
http://www.census.gov/const/uspricemon.pdf
But I think this is missing the point,
It is the strangeness of the lack of wage inflation since 1990.
August 21, 2013 at 10:32 AM #764654carlsbadworkerParticipantBut couldn’t the FHA borrowers just refinance after LTV drops below 78% to conventional loan? What’s the big deal?
And I am actually confused why the FHA does this as well. I always thought it is a ponzi game. So what are they going to do if there are no new applications (new money) going in? Ask for the government bailout if the existing customers failed to pay?
August 21, 2013 at 10:34 AM #764655spdrunParticipantPerhaps this is a back-door attempt to wind down FHA loans entirely.
August 21, 2013 at 11:57 AM #764659livinincaliParticipant[quote=The-Shoveler]Try the US Gov census.
http://www.census.gov/const/uspricemon.pdf
But I think this is missing the point,
It is the strangeness of the lack of wage inflation since 1990.[/quote]
That’s for new homes only. Which is a minority of the overall home sales.
That was my point we didn’t need wage inflation because people we’re perfectly comfortable expanding debt and leverage in a falling rate environment. Home prices could continue to go up without the expansion in wages because the monthly payment fell with the lower rates.
So the question is what happens when rates go up. If wages continue to experience low inflation then home prices will fall. If wages do experience the inflation you seem to think is a solution then you would expect rates to increase even faster. Of course if the rates expand at a rate greater than wages then home prices still fall. It’s going to be a negative feedback loop that will trap people in homes that are purchased now. They won’t be able to get that monthly payment again and they won’t be able to sell at a reasonable profit until they pay down a lot of the debt. We had falling rates as a trend for 30 years. We had a positive feedback loop to expand debt into that environment. When that changes assets that are bought and sold with leverage will suffer.
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