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August 19, 2011 at 3:13 AM #722365August 19, 2011 at 3:26 AM #721155CA renterParticipant
[quote=jpinpb]Again, none of this makes me wonder. Do not dismiss or discount the invisible stimulus of people not paying their mortgage. That’s a lot of extra money for dinners out and movies and shopping.[/quote]
Agreed. There are still a lot of people out there who are either not paying their mortgages, or who have very reduced mortgages due to all the interventions. Also, people who are moving in with kids and parents free up a lot of income as well.
Pretty much confirms that LOWER housing prices/costs are the solution to our problems.
August 19, 2011 at 3:26 AM #721248CA renterParticipant[quote=jpinpb]Again, none of this makes me wonder. Do not dismiss or discount the invisible stimulus of people not paying their mortgage. That’s a lot of extra money for dinners out and movies and shopping.[/quote]
Agreed. There are still a lot of people out there who are either not paying their mortgages, or who have very reduced mortgages due to all the interventions. Also, people who are moving in with kids and parents free up a lot of income as well.
Pretty much confirms that LOWER housing prices/costs are the solution to our problems.
August 19, 2011 at 3:26 AM #721847CA renterParticipant[quote=jpinpb]Again, none of this makes me wonder. Do not dismiss or discount the invisible stimulus of people not paying their mortgage. That’s a lot of extra money for dinners out and movies and shopping.[/quote]
Agreed. There are still a lot of people out there who are either not paying their mortgages, or who have very reduced mortgages due to all the interventions. Also, people who are moving in with kids and parents free up a lot of income as well.
Pretty much confirms that LOWER housing prices/costs are the solution to our problems.
August 19, 2011 at 3:26 AM #722004CA renterParticipant[quote=jpinpb]Again, none of this makes me wonder. Do not dismiss or discount the invisible stimulus of people not paying their mortgage. That’s a lot of extra money for dinners out and movies and shopping.[/quote]
Agreed. There are still a lot of people out there who are either not paying their mortgages, or who have very reduced mortgages due to all the interventions. Also, people who are moving in with kids and parents free up a lot of income as well.
Pretty much confirms that LOWER housing prices/costs are the solution to our problems.
August 19, 2011 at 3:26 AM #722370CA renterParticipant[quote=jpinpb]Again, none of this makes me wonder. Do not dismiss or discount the invisible stimulus of people not paying their mortgage. That’s a lot of extra money for dinners out and movies and shopping.[/quote]
Agreed. There are still a lot of people out there who are either not paying their mortgages, or who have very reduced mortgages due to all the interventions. Also, people who are moving in with kids and parents free up a lot of income as well.
Pretty much confirms that LOWER housing prices/costs are the solution to our problems.
August 19, 2011 at 10:02 AM #721225briansd1Guest[quote=CA renter]
Pretty much confirms that LOWER housing prices/costs are the solution to our problems.[/quote]Well, long term yes. Lower housing costs, as proportion of income, would be good for other sectors of the economy.
In the mean time, people need to get out of debt and out from being underwater. Only time and inflation can fix that.
August 19, 2011 at 10:02 AM #721317briansd1Guest[quote=CA renter]
Pretty much confirms that LOWER housing prices/costs are the solution to our problems.[/quote]Well, long term yes. Lower housing costs, as proportion of income, would be good for other sectors of the economy.
In the mean time, people need to get out of debt and out from being underwater. Only time and inflation can fix that.
August 19, 2011 at 10:02 AM #721916briansd1Guest[quote=CA renter]
Pretty much confirms that LOWER housing prices/costs are the solution to our problems.[/quote]Well, long term yes. Lower housing costs, as proportion of income, would be good for other sectors of the economy.
In the mean time, people need to get out of debt and out from being underwater. Only time and inflation can fix that.
August 19, 2011 at 10:02 AM #722074briansd1Guest[quote=CA renter]
Pretty much confirms that LOWER housing prices/costs are the solution to our problems.[/quote]Well, long term yes. Lower housing costs, as proportion of income, would be good for other sectors of the economy.
In the mean time, people need to get out of debt and out from being underwater. Only time and inflation can fix that.
August 19, 2011 at 10:02 AM #722439briansd1Guest[quote=CA renter]
Pretty much confirms that LOWER housing prices/costs are the solution to our problems.[/quote]Well, long term yes. Lower housing costs, as proportion of income, would be good for other sectors of the economy.
In the mean time, people need to get out of debt and out from being underwater. Only time and inflation can fix that.
August 19, 2011 at 10:56 AM #721265zzzParticipanti think most of us who are savers or not heavily in debt can’t truly grasp how so many many people spend everything they make and live paycheck to paycheck, and have a lot of credit card debt, and somehow sleep at night anyhow. most people do not have months or years of savings in the event of job loss.
i was at nordstroms in escondido a month ago and the sales lady said they had 2 of their best quarters in Q1/Q2 this year, double digit growth over last year in that store.
most of our friends spend spend spend. they eat out 3-4x’s a week at nice sit down restaurants and drink with their meals. they may be 200k in graduate school debt, but they are buying new cars and taking international vacations every year, take lots of weekend trips, join wine clubs, they do not blink dropping $200-300 on a pair of designer jeans, or $300 on a sundress. if they did this twice a year, it would be one thing, but its like every other month. some couples both have well paying jobs, but they still have 10 or 20k in credit card debt and would rather keep spending than pay down their credit card debt.
we know people who have early 20 something children, who are not going to college, working minimum wage jobs, living at home, with iphones, relatively newer cars, and eat out and drink out all the time. their parents are not subsidizing their expenditures.
we have friends who are stressed about paying their mortgage, and feel stressed about cash, but then take international vacations or rent expensive homes and take their whole family to hawaii including their parents, rather than save the cash in case of income loss.
its insane to me, but people do it!
August 19, 2011 at 10:56 AM #721357zzzParticipanti think most of us who are savers or not heavily in debt can’t truly grasp how so many many people spend everything they make and live paycheck to paycheck, and have a lot of credit card debt, and somehow sleep at night anyhow. most people do not have months or years of savings in the event of job loss.
i was at nordstroms in escondido a month ago and the sales lady said they had 2 of their best quarters in Q1/Q2 this year, double digit growth over last year in that store.
most of our friends spend spend spend. they eat out 3-4x’s a week at nice sit down restaurants and drink with their meals. they may be 200k in graduate school debt, but they are buying new cars and taking international vacations every year, take lots of weekend trips, join wine clubs, they do not blink dropping $200-300 on a pair of designer jeans, or $300 on a sundress. if they did this twice a year, it would be one thing, but its like every other month. some couples both have well paying jobs, but they still have 10 or 20k in credit card debt and would rather keep spending than pay down their credit card debt.
we know people who have early 20 something children, who are not going to college, working minimum wage jobs, living at home, with iphones, relatively newer cars, and eat out and drink out all the time. their parents are not subsidizing their expenditures.
we have friends who are stressed about paying their mortgage, and feel stressed about cash, but then take international vacations or rent expensive homes and take their whole family to hawaii including their parents, rather than save the cash in case of income loss.
its insane to me, but people do it!
August 19, 2011 at 10:56 AM #721957zzzParticipanti think most of us who are savers or not heavily in debt can’t truly grasp how so many many people spend everything they make and live paycheck to paycheck, and have a lot of credit card debt, and somehow sleep at night anyhow. most people do not have months or years of savings in the event of job loss.
i was at nordstroms in escondido a month ago and the sales lady said they had 2 of their best quarters in Q1/Q2 this year, double digit growth over last year in that store.
most of our friends spend spend spend. they eat out 3-4x’s a week at nice sit down restaurants and drink with their meals. they may be 200k in graduate school debt, but they are buying new cars and taking international vacations every year, take lots of weekend trips, join wine clubs, they do not blink dropping $200-300 on a pair of designer jeans, or $300 on a sundress. if they did this twice a year, it would be one thing, but its like every other month. some couples both have well paying jobs, but they still have 10 or 20k in credit card debt and would rather keep spending than pay down their credit card debt.
we know people who have early 20 something children, who are not going to college, working minimum wage jobs, living at home, with iphones, relatively newer cars, and eat out and drink out all the time. their parents are not subsidizing their expenditures.
we have friends who are stressed about paying their mortgage, and feel stressed about cash, but then take international vacations or rent expensive homes and take their whole family to hawaii including their parents, rather than save the cash in case of income loss.
its insane to me, but people do it!
August 19, 2011 at 10:56 AM #722114zzzParticipanti think most of us who are savers or not heavily in debt can’t truly grasp how so many many people spend everything they make and live paycheck to paycheck, and have a lot of credit card debt, and somehow sleep at night anyhow. most people do not have months or years of savings in the event of job loss.
i was at nordstroms in escondido a month ago and the sales lady said they had 2 of their best quarters in Q1/Q2 this year, double digit growth over last year in that store.
most of our friends spend spend spend. they eat out 3-4x’s a week at nice sit down restaurants and drink with their meals. they may be 200k in graduate school debt, but they are buying new cars and taking international vacations every year, take lots of weekend trips, join wine clubs, they do not blink dropping $200-300 on a pair of designer jeans, or $300 on a sundress. if they did this twice a year, it would be one thing, but its like every other month. some couples both have well paying jobs, but they still have 10 or 20k in credit card debt and would rather keep spending than pay down their credit card debt.
we know people who have early 20 something children, who are not going to college, working minimum wage jobs, living at home, with iphones, relatively newer cars, and eat out and drink out all the time. their parents are not subsidizing their expenditures.
we have friends who are stressed about paying their mortgage, and feel stressed about cash, but then take international vacations or rent expensive homes and take their whole family to hawaii including their parents, rather than save the cash in case of income loss.
its insane to me, but people do it!
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