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May 15, 2008 at 3:10 PM #205120May 15, 2008 at 3:21 PM #205026JWM in SDParticipant
“If you think that the fed under the control of BB will raise rate in the face of recession/depression, then the last several months must have been a dream.”
You just proved that you don’t know what you are talking about. If Bernanke doesn’t begin to raise rates sometime in the next year or so, then bond market will do it for him at the cost of the housing market and economy in general. Sorry, but bondholders and creditors like to get paid or they get really upset.
May 15, 2008 at 3:21 PM #205075JWM in SDParticipant“If you think that the fed under the control of BB will raise rate in the face of recession/depression, then the last several months must have been a dream.”
You just proved that you don’t know what you are talking about. If Bernanke doesn’t begin to raise rates sometime in the next year or so, then bond market will do it for him at the cost of the housing market and economy in general. Sorry, but bondholders and creditors like to get paid or they get really upset.
May 15, 2008 at 3:21 PM #205106JWM in SDParticipant“If you think that the fed under the control of BB will raise rate in the face of recession/depression, then the last several months must have been a dream.”
You just proved that you don’t know what you are talking about. If Bernanke doesn’t begin to raise rates sometime in the next year or so, then bond market will do it for him at the cost of the housing market and economy in general. Sorry, but bondholders and creditors like to get paid or they get really upset.
May 15, 2008 at 3:21 PM #205127JWM in SDParticipant“If you think that the fed under the control of BB will raise rate in the face of recession/depression, then the last several months must have been a dream.”
You just proved that you don’t know what you are talking about. If Bernanke doesn’t begin to raise rates sometime in the next year or so, then bond market will do it for him at the cost of the housing market and economy in general. Sorry, but bondholders and creditors like to get paid or they get really upset.
May 15, 2008 at 3:21 PM #205160JWM in SDParticipant“If you think that the fed under the control of BB will raise rate in the face of recession/depression, then the last several months must have been a dream.”
You just proved that you don’t know what you are talking about. If Bernanke doesn’t begin to raise rates sometime in the next year or so, then bond market will do it for him at the cost of the housing market and economy in general. Sorry, but bondholders and creditors like to get paid or they get really upset.
May 15, 2008 at 3:39 PM #205060anParticipantYou just proved that you don’t know what you are talking about. If Bernanke doesn’t begin to raise rates sometime in the next year or so, then bond market will do it for him at the cost of the housing market and economy in general. Sorry, but bondholders and creditors like to get paid or they get really upset.
I never argue that the bond holder wants to get paid. They do and they also predict higher inflation, which will case rate increase. Inflation is the opposite of recession btw. Please tell me what the bond market expect in 2005 when FFR were around 5.5%? Don’t you remember the flatten yield curve? Don’t you remember every starting to say we just peaked and we’re heading for a recession? What did the Fed do when things start to really slow down? Show me your data that support your “theory” that rates goes up during a slow down and I’ll concede that I don’t know anything.May 15, 2008 at 3:39 PM #205108anParticipantYou just proved that you don’t know what you are talking about. If Bernanke doesn’t begin to raise rates sometime in the next year or so, then bond market will do it for him at the cost of the housing market and economy in general. Sorry, but bondholders and creditors like to get paid or they get really upset.
I never argue that the bond holder wants to get paid. They do and they also predict higher inflation, which will case rate increase. Inflation is the opposite of recession btw. Please tell me what the bond market expect in 2005 when FFR were around 5.5%? Don’t you remember the flatten yield curve? Don’t you remember every starting to say we just peaked and we’re heading for a recession? What did the Fed do when things start to really slow down? Show me your data that support your “theory” that rates goes up during a slow down and I’ll concede that I don’t know anything.May 15, 2008 at 3:39 PM #205139anParticipantYou just proved that you don’t know what you are talking about. If Bernanke doesn’t begin to raise rates sometime in the next year or so, then bond market will do it for him at the cost of the housing market and economy in general. Sorry, but bondholders and creditors like to get paid or they get really upset.
I never argue that the bond holder wants to get paid. They do and they also predict higher inflation, which will case rate increase. Inflation is the opposite of recession btw. Please tell me what the bond market expect in 2005 when FFR were around 5.5%? Don’t you remember the flatten yield curve? Don’t you remember every starting to say we just peaked and we’re heading for a recession? What did the Fed do when things start to really slow down? Show me your data that support your “theory” that rates goes up during a slow down and I’ll concede that I don’t know anything.May 15, 2008 at 3:39 PM #205162anParticipantYou just proved that you don’t know what you are talking about. If Bernanke doesn’t begin to raise rates sometime in the next year or so, then bond market will do it for him at the cost of the housing market and economy in general. Sorry, but bondholders and creditors like to get paid or they get really upset.
I never argue that the bond holder wants to get paid. They do and they also predict higher inflation, which will case rate increase. Inflation is the opposite of recession btw. Please tell me what the bond market expect in 2005 when FFR were around 5.5%? Don’t you remember the flatten yield curve? Don’t you remember every starting to say we just peaked and we’re heading for a recession? What did the Fed do when things start to really slow down? Show me your data that support your “theory” that rates goes up during a slow down and I’ll concede that I don’t know anything.May 15, 2008 at 3:39 PM #205194anParticipantYou just proved that you don’t know what you are talking about. If Bernanke doesn’t begin to raise rates sometime in the next year or so, then bond market will do it for him at the cost of the housing market and economy in general. Sorry, but bondholders and creditors like to get paid or they get really upset.
I never argue that the bond holder wants to get paid. They do and they also predict higher inflation, which will case rate increase. Inflation is the opposite of recession btw. Please tell me what the bond market expect in 2005 when FFR were around 5.5%? Don’t you remember the flatten yield curve? Don’t you remember every starting to say we just peaked and we’re heading for a recession? What did the Fed do when things start to really slow down? Show me your data that support your “theory” that rates goes up during a slow down and I’ll concede that I don’t know anything.May 15, 2008 at 3:48 PM #205099JWM in SDParticipant“Inflation is the opposite of recession btw.”
No, inflation is an expansion of the monetary base or money supply. Higher interest rates reflect the need for risk and future payment in equivalent basline amounts. The two are mutually exclusive as far as I’m concerned. Recession just means that there is slowed economic growth or negative growth in real terms. If credit is harder to come by for businesses and there is price effects in commodities due to expansion of the currency, then why wouldn’t there be a recession??
May 15, 2008 at 3:48 PM #205148JWM in SDParticipant“Inflation is the opposite of recession btw.”
No, inflation is an expansion of the monetary base or money supply. Higher interest rates reflect the need for risk and future payment in equivalent basline amounts. The two are mutually exclusive as far as I’m concerned. Recession just means that there is slowed economic growth or negative growth in real terms. If credit is harder to come by for businesses and there is price effects in commodities due to expansion of the currency, then why wouldn’t there be a recession??
May 15, 2008 at 3:48 PM #205179JWM in SDParticipant“Inflation is the opposite of recession btw.”
No, inflation is an expansion of the monetary base or money supply. Higher interest rates reflect the need for risk and future payment in equivalent basline amounts. The two are mutually exclusive as far as I’m concerned. Recession just means that there is slowed economic growth or negative growth in real terms. If credit is harder to come by for businesses and there is price effects in commodities due to expansion of the currency, then why wouldn’t there be a recession??
May 15, 2008 at 3:48 PM #205202JWM in SDParticipant“Inflation is the opposite of recession btw.”
No, inflation is an expansion of the monetary base or money supply. Higher interest rates reflect the need for risk and future payment in equivalent basline amounts. The two are mutually exclusive as far as I’m concerned. Recession just means that there is slowed economic growth or negative growth in real terms. If credit is harder to come by for businesses and there is price effects in commodities due to expansion of the currency, then why wouldn’t there be a recession??
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