Democrats Falling Off A Cliff…

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]The last successful Democratic President, Clinton, got that way by stealing all the good shit from conservatives (triangulation, anyone?) and claiming it for his own.
[/quote]

If that’s what you feel, then you should be a big Clinton supporter. Isn’t that progress?

BTW, I see what you’re saying in a larger historical perspective. I’m however looking at Democrat vs. Republican as a political reality today.

[Zeitgeist]

Allan,

Group think or Engineer Group Think also had a lot to do with the crash of the Challenger. I think group think can be deadly. It can kill both literally and it can paralyze innovation in a company, corporation or government entity. It has held us back for years in society. Excellent point. If I was keeping score, you and Pup would be winning, if you were not debating logs and lawn chairs.

[Zeitgeist]

Allan,

Group think or Engineer Group Think also had a lot to do with the crash of the Challenger. I think group think can be deadly. It can kill both literally and it can paralyze innovation in a company, corporation or government entity. It has held us back for years in society. Excellent point. If I was keeping score, you and Pup would be winning, if you were not debating logs and lawn chairs.

[Zeitgeist]

Allan,

Group think or Engineer Group Think also had a lot to do with the crash of the Challenger. I think group think can be deadly. It can kill both literally and it can paralyze innovation in a company, corporation or government entity. It has held us back for years in society. Excellent point. If I was keeping score, you and Pup would be winning, if you were not debating logs and lawn chairs.

[Zeitgeist]

Allan,

Group think or Engineer Group Think also had a lot to do with the crash of the Challenger. I think group think can be deadly. It can kill both literally and it can paralyze innovation in a company, corporation or government entity. It has held us back for years in society. Excellent point. If I was keeping score, you and Pup would be winning, if you were not debating logs and lawn chairs.

[Zeitgeist]

Allan,

Group think or Engineer Group Think also had a lot to do with the crash of the Challenger. I think group think can be deadly. It can kill both literally and it can paralyze innovation in a company, corporation or government entity. It has held us back for years in society. Excellent point. If I was keeping score, you and Pup would be winning, if you were not debating logs and lawn chairs.

[patientrenter]

[quote=briansd1]….progressive forces have always moved us forward whereas conservative elements want to hold us back.[/quote]

4 legs good, 2 legs bad….

[patientrenter]

[quote=briansd1]….progressive forces have always moved us forward whereas conservative elements want to hold us back.[/quote]

4 legs good, 2 legs bad….

[patientrenter]

[quote=briansd1]….progressive forces have always moved us forward whereas conservative elements want to hold us back.[/quote]

4 legs good, 2 legs bad….

[patientrenter]

[quote=briansd1]….progressive forces have always moved us forward whereas conservative elements want to hold us back.[/quote]

4 legs good, 2 legs bad….

[patientrenter]

[quote=briansd1]….progressive forces have always moved us forward whereas conservative elements want to hold us back.[/quote]

4 legs good, 2 legs bad….

[Anonymous]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Partypup: Bingo. That was my point, exactly. Some people here read, but don’t seem to comprehend. Same difference between listening and hearing.[/quote]

There is nothing to comprehend in partypup’s long-winded rant. It’s full of rhetoric and gripes about “the system”, but there are no specific ideas.

So should there be a 3rd party?

Or will we see new, credible leadership in the existing parties?

Is someone going to propose a specific platform?

If we are unhappy with spending, how about someone propose a complete budget plan (with actual numbers!)

Or are we just going to revel in the defeat of the other guy and call it progress? (And in this situation, the other guy seems to be just about everyone.)

I hear cheering because this election will likely defeat the health care bill. Ok, so the health care bill sucked. Is anyone proposing an alternative solution? Where is it? Is there an actual, written plan for health care (or any other issue for that matter?)

Without a specific leader, and/or a specific plan, all we have is hope.

Is that what we are cheering about: hope?

[Anonymous]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Partypup: Bingo. That was my point, exactly. Some people here read, but don’t seem to comprehend. Same difference between listening and hearing.[/quote]

There is nothing to comprehend in partypup’s long-winded rant. It’s full of rhetoric and gripes about “the system”, but there are no specific ideas.

So should there be a 3rd party?

Or will we see new, credible leadership in the existing parties?

Is someone going to propose a specific platform?

If we are unhappy with spending, how about someone propose a complete budget plan (with actual numbers!)

Or are we just going to revel in the defeat of the other guy and call it progress? (And in this situation, the other guy seems to be just about everyone.)

I hear cheering because this election will likely defeat the health care bill. Ok, so the health care bill sucked. Is anyone proposing an alternative solution? Where is it? Is there an actual, written plan for health care (or any other issue for that matter?)

Without a specific leader, and/or a specific plan, all we have is hope.

Is that what we are cheering about: hope?

[Anonymous]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Partypup: Bingo. That was my point, exactly. Some people here read, but don’t seem to comprehend. Same difference between listening and hearing.[/quote]

There is nothing to comprehend in partypup’s long-winded rant. It’s full of rhetoric and gripes about “the system”, but there are no specific ideas.

So should there be a 3rd party?

Or will we see new, credible leadership in the existing parties?

Is someone going to propose a specific platform?

If we are unhappy with spending, how about someone propose a complete budget plan (with actual numbers!)

Or are we just going to revel in the defeat of the other guy and call it progress? (And in this situation, the other guy seems to be just about everyone.)

I hear cheering because this election will likely defeat the health care bill. Ok, so the health care bill sucked. Is anyone proposing an alternative solution? Where is it? Is there an actual, written plan for health care (or any other issue for that matter?)

Without a specific leader, and/or a specific plan, all we have is hope.

Is that what we are cheering about: hope?

[Anonymous]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Partypup: Bingo. That was my point, exactly. Some people here read, but don’t seem to comprehend. Same difference between listening and hearing.[/quote]

There is nothing to comprehend in partypup’s long-winded rant. It’s full of rhetoric and gripes about “the system”, but there are no specific ideas.

So should there be a 3rd party?

Or will we see new, credible leadership in the existing parties?

Is someone going to propose a specific platform?

If we are unhappy with spending, how about someone propose a complete budget plan (with actual numbers!)

Or are we just going to revel in the defeat of the other guy and call it progress? (And in this situation, the other guy seems to be just about everyone.)

I hear cheering because this election will likely defeat the health care bill. Ok, so the health care bill sucked. Is anyone proposing an alternative solution? Where is it? Is there an actual, written plan for health care (or any other issue for that matter?)

Without a specific leader, and/or a specific plan, all we have is hope.

Is that what we are cheering about: hope?

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