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July 9, 2008 at 8:50 PM #236434July 9, 2008 at 9:30 PM #236628temeculaguyParticipant
Not that this is a prime example, but I have seen short sales go up in price, usually not to that extent because the bank rejects an offer at the listed short price and the BPO gives guidance. Shorts are tricky, the bank wont say what they will take, just that they will evaluate each offer.
Here’s an example, the owners are a couple hundred grand in the hole, so 25k isn’t going to matter to them, they get nothing either way. It was listed for 280k for a month, then went up 25k, more than likely the bank balked at the 280k.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/32425-Francisco-Pl-92592/home/6489327
The realtor is just throwing darts or got some guidance from the bank that they would take 305k. I had a realtor friend with a short listing and couldn’t get any offers, they begged me to offer half off the list (which would have been 75% off peak) just so it could get rejected and they could get an idea what they bank would take. I would have done it but I hated the house and if for some crazy reason the bank took it, I wouldn’t want it. Someone else came in and lowballed, the bank came back and said no but gave an idea of what they wanted and the realtor repriced and sold it. Some banks are weird and overworked so they don’t function like normal buyers and sellers with counter offers, they just say yes or no.
The banks are stupid not to take the money and run, less than a mile away, better neighborhood, a little older, a little smaller but a 3 car garage and on 3/4 of an acre for 249k, that first bank may never see 280k ever again, because the repos are beating the shorts and buyers would prefer reo to shorts.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/45770-Corte-Rodrigo-92592/home/6253359
July 9, 2008 at 9:30 PM #236640temeculaguyParticipantNot that this is a prime example, but I have seen short sales go up in price, usually not to that extent because the bank rejects an offer at the listed short price and the BPO gives guidance. Shorts are tricky, the bank wont say what they will take, just that they will evaluate each offer.
Here’s an example, the owners are a couple hundred grand in the hole, so 25k isn’t going to matter to them, they get nothing either way. It was listed for 280k for a month, then went up 25k, more than likely the bank balked at the 280k.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/32425-Francisco-Pl-92592/home/6489327
The realtor is just throwing darts or got some guidance from the bank that they would take 305k. I had a realtor friend with a short listing and couldn’t get any offers, they begged me to offer half off the list (which would have been 75% off peak) just so it could get rejected and they could get an idea what they bank would take. I would have done it but I hated the house and if for some crazy reason the bank took it, I wouldn’t want it. Someone else came in and lowballed, the bank came back and said no but gave an idea of what they wanted and the realtor repriced and sold it. Some banks are weird and overworked so they don’t function like normal buyers and sellers with counter offers, they just say yes or no.
The banks are stupid not to take the money and run, less than a mile away, better neighborhood, a little older, a little smaller but a 3 car garage and on 3/4 of an acre for 249k, that first bank may never see 280k ever again, because the repos are beating the shorts and buyers would prefer reo to shorts.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/45770-Corte-Rodrigo-92592/home/6253359
July 9, 2008 at 9:30 PM #236444temeculaguyParticipantNot that this is a prime example, but I have seen short sales go up in price, usually not to that extent because the bank rejects an offer at the listed short price and the BPO gives guidance. Shorts are tricky, the bank wont say what they will take, just that they will evaluate each offer.
Here’s an example, the owners are a couple hundred grand in the hole, so 25k isn’t going to matter to them, they get nothing either way. It was listed for 280k for a month, then went up 25k, more than likely the bank balked at the 280k.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/32425-Francisco-Pl-92592/home/6489327
The realtor is just throwing darts or got some guidance from the bank that they would take 305k. I had a realtor friend with a short listing and couldn’t get any offers, they begged me to offer half off the list (which would have been 75% off peak) just so it could get rejected and they could get an idea what they bank would take. I would have done it but I hated the house and if for some crazy reason the bank took it, I wouldn’t want it. Someone else came in and lowballed, the bank came back and said no but gave an idea of what they wanted and the realtor repriced and sold it. Some banks are weird and overworked so they don’t function like normal buyers and sellers with counter offers, they just say yes or no.
The banks are stupid not to take the money and run, less than a mile away, better neighborhood, a little older, a little smaller but a 3 car garage and on 3/4 of an acre for 249k, that first bank may never see 280k ever again, because the repos are beating the shorts and buyers would prefer reo to shorts.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/45770-Corte-Rodrigo-92592/home/6253359
July 9, 2008 at 9:30 PM #236583temeculaguyParticipantNot that this is a prime example, but I have seen short sales go up in price, usually not to that extent because the bank rejects an offer at the listed short price and the BPO gives guidance. Shorts are tricky, the bank wont say what they will take, just that they will evaluate each offer.
Here’s an example, the owners are a couple hundred grand in the hole, so 25k isn’t going to matter to them, they get nothing either way. It was listed for 280k for a month, then went up 25k, more than likely the bank balked at the 280k.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/32425-Francisco-Pl-92592/home/6489327
The realtor is just throwing darts or got some guidance from the bank that they would take 305k. I had a realtor friend with a short listing and couldn’t get any offers, they begged me to offer half off the list (which would have been 75% off peak) just so it could get rejected and they could get an idea what they bank would take. I would have done it but I hated the house and if for some crazy reason the bank took it, I wouldn’t want it. Someone else came in and lowballed, the bank came back and said no but gave an idea of what they wanted and the realtor repriced and sold it. Some banks are weird and overworked so they don’t function like normal buyers and sellers with counter offers, they just say yes or no.
The banks are stupid not to take the money and run, less than a mile away, better neighborhood, a little older, a little smaller but a 3 car garage and on 3/4 of an acre for 249k, that first bank may never see 280k ever again, because the repos are beating the shorts and buyers would prefer reo to shorts.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/45770-Corte-Rodrigo-92592/home/6253359
July 9, 2008 at 9:30 PM #236572temeculaguyParticipantNot that this is a prime example, but I have seen short sales go up in price, usually not to that extent because the bank rejects an offer at the listed short price and the BPO gives guidance. Shorts are tricky, the bank wont say what they will take, just that they will evaluate each offer.
Here’s an example, the owners are a couple hundred grand in the hole, so 25k isn’t going to matter to them, they get nothing either way. It was listed for 280k for a month, then went up 25k, more than likely the bank balked at the 280k.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/32425-Francisco-Pl-92592/home/6489327
The realtor is just throwing darts or got some guidance from the bank that they would take 305k. I had a realtor friend with a short listing and couldn’t get any offers, they begged me to offer half off the list (which would have been 75% off peak) just so it could get rejected and they could get an idea what they bank would take. I would have done it but I hated the house and if for some crazy reason the bank took it, I wouldn’t want it. Someone else came in and lowballed, the bank came back and said no but gave an idea of what they wanted and the realtor repriced and sold it. Some banks are weird and overworked so they don’t function like normal buyers and sellers with counter offers, they just say yes or no.
The banks are stupid not to take the money and run, less than a mile away, better neighborhood, a little older, a little smaller but a 3 car garage and on 3/4 of an acre for 249k, that first bank may never see 280k ever again, because the repos are beating the shorts and buyers would prefer reo to shorts.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/45770-Corte-Rodrigo-92592/home/6253359
July 9, 2008 at 10:08 PM #236680snailParticipantThe Corte Rodrigo at 249K will move fast…damm I’ll need to move my lazy ass off and start lowballing just for the hell of it. I think the bank don’t get the memo of sell now or eat sh#$ later!
July 9, 2008 at 10:08 PM #236611snailParticipantThe Corte Rodrigo at 249K will move fast…damm I’ll need to move my lazy ass off and start lowballing just for the hell of it. I think the bank don’t get the memo of sell now or eat sh#$ later!
July 9, 2008 at 10:08 PM #236666snailParticipantThe Corte Rodrigo at 249K will move fast…damm I’ll need to move my lazy ass off and start lowballing just for the hell of it. I think the bank don’t get the memo of sell now or eat sh#$ later!
July 9, 2008 at 10:08 PM #236484snailParticipantThe Corte Rodrigo at 249K will move fast…damm I’ll need to move my lazy ass off and start lowballing just for the hell of it. I think the bank don’t get the memo of sell now or eat sh#$ later!
July 9, 2008 at 10:08 PM #236621snailParticipantThe Corte Rodrigo at 249K will move fast…damm I’ll need to move my lazy ass off and start lowballing just for the hell of it. I think the bank don’t get the memo of sell now or eat sh#$ later!
July 9, 2008 at 11:41 PM #236549temeculaguyParticipantSnail it will move fast but it will be replaced with another, last week , one street over a 249 came up and sold within a few days, smaller lot, slightly worse shape and location. I’ve seen a bunch this month, all up and down in days and all at about 250k, that is the new “dump it yesterday” price. I tried to lowball some last week but lowballing the 250k fire sales with a 200k offer, get no more than a “thanks for playing” call. They get their ask on those and they get it quick. Lowballing the competition, the out of touch reo’s is where you need to go, I’ll be using these as comps when I go lowballing for real in the next few months.
Case study, this one comes up for 314, gets jumped on with multiple offers day 1. My lowball of 250k is laughed at.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/45314-Tioga-St-92592/home/6432588
Same house, same street, listed as a short for 385k
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/45197-Tioga-St-92592/home/6433033
Same model, one street over, bank owned, listed for 7 months, started in the 500’s, then 400’s, now 359k, still nothing.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/33099-Poppy-92592/home/6468889
The last two will now be haunted by the 314k and I keep all the 250k sales in my memory bank and when I offer 250k for one of them in november I can make a case for it. Booya!!!
July 9, 2008 at 11:41 PM #236679temeculaguyParticipantSnail it will move fast but it will be replaced with another, last week , one street over a 249 came up and sold within a few days, smaller lot, slightly worse shape and location. I’ve seen a bunch this month, all up and down in days and all at about 250k, that is the new “dump it yesterday” price. I tried to lowball some last week but lowballing the 250k fire sales with a 200k offer, get no more than a “thanks for playing” call. They get their ask on those and they get it quick. Lowballing the competition, the out of touch reo’s is where you need to go, I’ll be using these as comps when I go lowballing for real in the next few months.
Case study, this one comes up for 314, gets jumped on with multiple offers day 1. My lowball of 250k is laughed at.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/45314-Tioga-St-92592/home/6432588
Same house, same street, listed as a short for 385k
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/45197-Tioga-St-92592/home/6433033
Same model, one street over, bank owned, listed for 7 months, started in the 500’s, then 400’s, now 359k, still nothing.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/33099-Poppy-92592/home/6468889
The last two will now be haunted by the 314k and I keep all the 250k sales in my memory bank and when I offer 250k for one of them in november I can make a case for it. Booya!!!
July 9, 2008 at 11:41 PM #236686temeculaguyParticipantSnail it will move fast but it will be replaced with another, last week , one street over a 249 came up and sold within a few days, smaller lot, slightly worse shape and location. I’ve seen a bunch this month, all up and down in days and all at about 250k, that is the new “dump it yesterday” price. I tried to lowball some last week but lowballing the 250k fire sales with a 200k offer, get no more than a “thanks for playing” call. They get their ask on those and they get it quick. Lowballing the competition, the out of touch reo’s is where you need to go, I’ll be using these as comps when I go lowballing for real in the next few months.
Case study, this one comes up for 314, gets jumped on with multiple offers day 1. My lowball of 250k is laughed at.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/45314-Tioga-St-92592/home/6432588
Same house, same street, listed as a short for 385k
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/45197-Tioga-St-92592/home/6433033
Same model, one street over, bank owned, listed for 7 months, started in the 500’s, then 400’s, now 359k, still nothing.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/33099-Poppy-92592/home/6468889
The last two will now be haunted by the 314k and I keep all the 250k sales in my memory bank and when I offer 250k for one of them in november I can make a case for it. Booya!!!
July 9, 2008 at 11:41 PM #236731temeculaguyParticipantSnail it will move fast but it will be replaced with another, last week , one street over a 249 came up and sold within a few days, smaller lot, slightly worse shape and location. I’ve seen a bunch this month, all up and down in days and all at about 250k, that is the new “dump it yesterday” price. I tried to lowball some last week but lowballing the 250k fire sales with a 200k offer, get no more than a “thanks for playing” call. They get their ask on those and they get it quick. Lowballing the competition, the out of touch reo’s is where you need to go, I’ll be using these as comps when I go lowballing for real in the next few months.
Case study, this one comes up for 314, gets jumped on with multiple offers day 1. My lowball of 250k is laughed at.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/45314-Tioga-St-92592/home/6432588
Same house, same street, listed as a short for 385k
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/45197-Tioga-St-92592/home/6433033
Same model, one street over, bank owned, listed for 7 months, started in the 500’s, then 400’s, now 359k, still nothing.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/33099-Poppy-92592/home/6468889
The last two will now be haunted by the 314k and I keep all the 250k sales in my memory bank and when I offer 250k for one of them in november I can make a case for it. Booya!!!
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