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August 4, 2009 at 10:11 PM #441607August 5, 2009 at 2:30 PM #441128
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Participant[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=AK]Why would it be an easy short sale, UR? Because there’s enough equity to cover the first with a little bit left over for the second? Or for some other reason?[/quote]
No that’s pretty much why.
Once you cover 5% of the second, you can be pretty sure that the second will eat the rest.
In this case they would get more than 10 percent.
However the listing implies that the seller will show up with funds to close the deal (thus making this analysis largely irrelevant).[/quote]
Thanks for the info UR!
I wonder if that’s the secret of the agents who claim 100% success at short sales … knowing which ones to pick!
August 5, 2009 at 2:30 PM #441327AK
Participant[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=AK]Why would it be an easy short sale, UR? Because there’s enough equity to cover the first with a little bit left over for the second? Or for some other reason?[/quote]
No that’s pretty much why.
Once you cover 5% of the second, you can be pretty sure that the second will eat the rest.
In this case they would get more than 10 percent.
However the listing implies that the seller will show up with funds to close the deal (thus making this analysis largely irrelevant).[/quote]
Thanks for the info UR!
I wonder if that’s the secret of the agents who claim 100% success at short sales … knowing which ones to pick!
August 5, 2009 at 2:30 PM #441659AK
Participant[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=AK]Why would it be an easy short sale, UR? Because there’s enough equity to cover the first with a little bit left over for the second? Or for some other reason?[/quote]
No that’s pretty much why.
Once you cover 5% of the second, you can be pretty sure that the second will eat the rest.
In this case they would get more than 10 percent.
However the listing implies that the seller will show up with funds to close the deal (thus making this analysis largely irrelevant).[/quote]
Thanks for the info UR!
I wonder if that’s the secret of the agents who claim 100% success at short sales … knowing which ones to pick!
August 5, 2009 at 2:30 PM #441730AK
Participant[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=AK]Why would it be an easy short sale, UR? Because there’s enough equity to cover the first with a little bit left over for the second? Or for some other reason?[/quote]
No that’s pretty much why.
Once you cover 5% of the second, you can be pretty sure that the second will eat the rest.
In this case they would get more than 10 percent.
However the listing implies that the seller will show up with funds to close the deal (thus making this analysis largely irrelevant).[/quote]
Thanks for the info UR!
I wonder if that’s the secret of the agents who claim 100% success at short sales … knowing which ones to pick!
August 5, 2009 at 2:30 PM #441902AK
Participant[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=AK]Why would it be an easy short sale, UR? Because there’s enough equity to cover the first with a little bit left over for the second? Or for some other reason?[/quote]
No that’s pretty much why.
Once you cover 5% of the second, you can be pretty sure that the second will eat the rest.
In this case they would get more than 10 percent.
However the listing implies that the seller will show up with funds to close the deal (thus making this analysis largely irrelevant).[/quote]
Thanks for the info UR!
I wonder if that’s the secret of the agents who claim 100% success at short sales … knowing which ones to pick!
August 5, 2009 at 3:44 PM #441209SD Realtor
ParticipantPersonally I do not make any assumptions on any short sales. I have seen the same lender react in very different manners. I have seen 2nd lien holders ask for up to 50 percent of the second lien. I have seen many demands for the conversion to an unsecured note as well.
Please listen.
The final terms of any short sale for approval will vary and are independent. Don’t lump them together. Don’t make any assumptions about what a seller can or cannot do.
Another thing. I have seen second lien holders increase demands for lien releases. What has not been discussed here is that many seconds have been totally charged off already. So if I am a second lien holder and I have already charged off the loan why should I take the 3k offer from the first when I can shoot for 25k? So what if it forcloses? The first can have it because I have charged it off anyways.
sdrealtor has done a lot of shorts so he may see different things. All I know is don’t make assumptions.
August 5, 2009 at 3:44 PM #441407SD Realtor
ParticipantPersonally I do not make any assumptions on any short sales. I have seen the same lender react in very different manners. I have seen 2nd lien holders ask for up to 50 percent of the second lien. I have seen many demands for the conversion to an unsecured note as well.
Please listen.
The final terms of any short sale for approval will vary and are independent. Don’t lump them together. Don’t make any assumptions about what a seller can or cannot do.
Another thing. I have seen second lien holders increase demands for lien releases. What has not been discussed here is that many seconds have been totally charged off already. So if I am a second lien holder and I have already charged off the loan why should I take the 3k offer from the first when I can shoot for 25k? So what if it forcloses? The first can have it because I have charged it off anyways.
sdrealtor has done a lot of shorts so he may see different things. All I know is don’t make assumptions.
August 5, 2009 at 3:44 PM #441739SD Realtor
ParticipantPersonally I do not make any assumptions on any short sales. I have seen the same lender react in very different manners. I have seen 2nd lien holders ask for up to 50 percent of the second lien. I have seen many demands for the conversion to an unsecured note as well.
Please listen.
The final terms of any short sale for approval will vary and are independent. Don’t lump them together. Don’t make any assumptions about what a seller can or cannot do.
Another thing. I have seen second lien holders increase demands for lien releases. What has not been discussed here is that many seconds have been totally charged off already. So if I am a second lien holder and I have already charged off the loan why should I take the 3k offer from the first when I can shoot for 25k? So what if it forcloses? The first can have it because I have charged it off anyways.
sdrealtor has done a lot of shorts so he may see different things. All I know is don’t make assumptions.
August 5, 2009 at 3:44 PM #441810SD Realtor
ParticipantPersonally I do not make any assumptions on any short sales. I have seen the same lender react in very different manners. I have seen 2nd lien holders ask for up to 50 percent of the second lien. I have seen many demands for the conversion to an unsecured note as well.
Please listen.
The final terms of any short sale for approval will vary and are independent. Don’t lump them together. Don’t make any assumptions about what a seller can or cannot do.
Another thing. I have seen second lien holders increase demands for lien releases. What has not been discussed here is that many seconds have been totally charged off already. So if I am a second lien holder and I have already charged off the loan why should I take the 3k offer from the first when I can shoot for 25k? So what if it forcloses? The first can have it because I have charged it off anyways.
sdrealtor has done a lot of shorts so he may see different things. All I know is don’t make assumptions.
August 5, 2009 at 3:44 PM #441983SD Realtor
ParticipantPersonally I do not make any assumptions on any short sales. I have seen the same lender react in very different manners. I have seen 2nd lien holders ask for up to 50 percent of the second lien. I have seen many demands for the conversion to an unsecured note as well.
Please listen.
The final terms of any short sale for approval will vary and are independent. Don’t lump them together. Don’t make any assumptions about what a seller can or cannot do.
Another thing. I have seen second lien holders increase demands for lien releases. What has not been discussed here is that many seconds have been totally charged off already. So if I am a second lien holder and I have already charged off the loan why should I take the 3k offer from the first when I can shoot for 25k? So what if it forcloses? The first can have it because I have charged it off anyways.
sdrealtor has done a lot of shorts so he may see different things. All I know is don’t make assumptions.
August 5, 2009 at 3:46 PM #441214SD Realtor
ParticipantPersonally I do not make any assumptions on any short sales. I have seen the same lender react in very different manners. I have seen 2nd lien holders ask for up to 50 percent of the second lien. I have seen many demands for the conversion to an unsecured note as well.
Please listen.
The final terms of any short sale for approval will vary and are independent. Don’t lump them together. Don’t make any assumptions about what a seller can or cannot do.
Another thing. I have seen second lien holders increase demands for lien releases. What has not been discussed here is that many seconds have been totally charged off already. So if I am a second lien holder and I have already charged off the loan why should I take the 3k offer from the first when I can shoot for 25k? So what if it forcloses? The first can have it because I have charged it off anyways.
sdrealtor has done a lot of shorts so he may see different things. All I know is don’t make assumptions.
August 5, 2009 at 3:46 PM #441412SD Realtor
ParticipantPersonally I do not make any assumptions on any short sales. I have seen the same lender react in very different manners. I have seen 2nd lien holders ask for up to 50 percent of the second lien. I have seen many demands for the conversion to an unsecured note as well.
Please listen.
The final terms of any short sale for approval will vary and are independent. Don’t lump them together. Don’t make any assumptions about what a seller can or cannot do.
Another thing. I have seen second lien holders increase demands for lien releases. What has not been discussed here is that many seconds have been totally charged off already. So if I am a second lien holder and I have already charged off the loan why should I take the 3k offer from the first when I can shoot for 25k? So what if it forcloses? The first can have it because I have charged it off anyways.
sdrealtor has done a lot of shorts so he may see different things. All I know is don’t make assumptions.
August 5, 2009 at 3:46 PM #441744SD Realtor
ParticipantPersonally I do not make any assumptions on any short sales. I have seen the same lender react in very different manners. I have seen 2nd lien holders ask for up to 50 percent of the second lien. I have seen many demands for the conversion to an unsecured note as well.
Please listen.
The final terms of any short sale for approval will vary and are independent. Don’t lump them together. Don’t make any assumptions about what a seller can or cannot do.
Another thing. I have seen second lien holders increase demands for lien releases. What has not been discussed here is that many seconds have been totally charged off already. So if I am a second lien holder and I have already charged off the loan why should I take the 3k offer from the first when I can shoot for 25k? So what if it forcloses? The first can have it because I have charged it off anyways.
sdrealtor has done a lot of shorts so he may see different things. All I know is don’t make assumptions.
August 5, 2009 at 3:46 PM #441815SD Realtor
ParticipantPersonally I do not make any assumptions on any short sales. I have seen the same lender react in very different manners. I have seen 2nd lien holders ask for up to 50 percent of the second lien. I have seen many demands for the conversion to an unsecured note as well.
Please listen.
The final terms of any short sale for approval will vary and are independent. Don’t lump them together. Don’t make any assumptions about what a seller can or cannot do.
Another thing. I have seen second lien holders increase demands for lien releases. What has not been discussed here is that many seconds have been totally charged off already. So if I am a second lien holder and I have already charged off the loan why should I take the 3k offer from the first when I can shoot for 25k? So what if it forcloses? The first can have it because I have charged it off anyways.
sdrealtor has done a lot of shorts so he may see different things. All I know is don’t make assumptions.
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