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November 30, 2011 at 10:12 AM #733601November 30, 2011 at 10:52 AM #733609
CoronitaParticipant[quote=markmax33][quote=flu][quote=markmax33][quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=flu]Let me guess. We should vote for Wrong Paul.[/quote]
FLU: Either that or unplug the debt clock.[/quote]
You guys don’t care about your children if you let this debt continue to explode. Kind of sad…[/quote]
We do, we just think you’re kind of a lunatic, like a chicken with it’s head cut off, running around screaming the sky is falling. I think it’s kinda frightening you worship the guy in a cult-like way.
What you’re telling us isn’t what we already don’t know. Yeah, the debt clock. Seen it….Next[/quote]
Only a lunatic doesn’t watch his balance sheet. You come off insane not caring about a balance sheet, the most simple concept from ECON 101. It is the basis of all business and personal expenses. The greatest scams in history all came from not watching the balance sheet. Don’t you learn? Enron, Madoff, WorldCOM, every other fiat currency failure?[/quote]
I do watch my balance sheet, which is why I don’t worry about whether someone else doesn’t do a good job managing their own. And judging by some of the responses you got in the previous threads, you failed Economics 101.
For someone that is supportive of massive hands-off government, it’s ironic you should mention It’s interesting you should mention Enron, Madoff, WorldCon…For argument’s sake, are you suggesting that maybe if the SEC was had a lot more control and a lot more resources, and their was a lot more regulation, their wouldn’t have been an Enron, Madoff, or WorldCon? i thought you were a Ron Paul supporter…
November 30, 2011 at 11:06 AM #733611briansd1
Guest[quote=markmax33] Show me a line on the tresury’s balance sheet withe “interest money returned by fed”.[/quote]
There you go.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/10/federal-reserve-sends-largest-earnings-record-treasury-securities/But that would be on the income statement.
Balance sheet is Assets, Liabilities and Equity.
Income Statement is income and expenses.
November 30, 2011 at 12:28 PM #733620markmax33
Guest[quote=flu][quote=markmax33][quote=flu][quote=markmax33][quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=flu]Let me guess. We should vote for Wrong Paul.[/quote]
FLU: Either that or unplug the debt clock.[/quote]
You guys don’t care about your children if you let this debt continue to explode. Kind of sad…[/quote]
We do, we just think you’re kind of a lunatic, like a chicken with it’s head cut off, running around screaming the sky is falling. I think it’s kinda frightening you worship the guy in a cult-like way.
What you’re telling us isn’t what we already don’t know. Yeah, the debt clock. Seen it….Next[/quote]
Only a lunatic doesn’t watch his balance sheet. You come off insane not caring about a balance sheet, the most simple concept from ECON 101. It is the basis of all business and personal expenses. The greatest scams in history all came from not watching the balance sheet. Don’t you learn? Enron, Madoff, WorldCOM, every other fiat currency failure?[/quote]
I do watch my balance sheet, which is why I don’t worry about whether someone else doesn’t do a good job managing their own. And judging by some of the responses you got in the previous threads, you failed Economics 101.
For someone that is supportive of massive hands-off government, it’s ironic you should mention It’s interesting you should mention Enron, Madoff, WorldCon…For argument’s sake, are you suggesting that maybe if the SEC was had a lot more control and a lot more resources, and their was a lot more regulation, their wouldn’t have been an Enron, Madoff, or WorldCon? i thought you were a Ron Paul supporter…[/quote]
The USA’s balance sheet isn’t yours and doesn’t affect you? The fact the other fiat currencies have all failed when the central banks have done the same things don’t mean anything to you? I’m warning you about history and I’m alarmist?
November 30, 2011 at 12:47 PM #733624The-Shoveler
ParticipantWeimar Germany circa 1920’s was caused because Germany was forced to make a reparations payments in gold-backed Marks. Not a fiat currency.
I say this as it always comes up for hyper inflation.
November 30, 2011 at 12:50 PM #733623CoronitaParticipant[quote=markmax33]
The USA’s balance sheet isn’t yours and doesn’t affect you? The fact the other fiat currencies have all failed when the central banks have done the same things don’t mean anything to you? I’m warning you about history and I’m alarmist?[/quote]You’re as extreme as all the other extremists lefty political folks. Lots of talk, lots of jumping up and down.. Your point? Don’t you have an OWS event or a tea-party event to go to right now?
I’ll be the first to say it.
Obama for 2012!!!!! Because a republitard controlled Congress and republitard Prez means another 4 years of disaster on top of the previous 12 we already had.
One of many reasons Ron won’t ever have a chance…
http://www.infowars.com/ron-paul-gets-89-seconds-to-speak-in-cbs-debate/
November 30, 2011 at 12:59 PM #733628Guest[quote=flu]
I’ll be the first to say it.Obama for 2012!!!!! Because a republitard controlled Congress and republitard Prez means another 4 years of disaster on top of the previous 12 we already had.
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Are you just saying that?
Please be true to your word when you mark the ballot next year.
November 30, 2011 at 12:59 PM #733626GuestWhat does it matter if fiat currencies fail, so long as we have improved standards of living, growth and development, jobs, things for people to consume and enjoy life?
Germany had a failed currency once, but it’s the most successful country in Europe now.
I’m fine with a failed Dollar as long as there’s something else to replace it that can ensure prosperity. Therein lies the uncertainty.
November 30, 2011 at 3:25 PM #733647zak
ParticipantSo funny.. it’s true, it’s there, but when you loan money at 0.25% , then borrow it back at 2.0% , can you really call the 0.25% income ? For example, I wrote myself a check last year for 1 billion dollars. I then tore it up. Did I have income and losses of 1 billion dollars? If so, I must be a high roller, and I should have access to TARP funds, because clearly I am too big to fail!
November 30, 2011 at 3:47 PM #733650Guest[quote=briansd1]What does it matter if fiat currencies fail, so long as we have improved standards of living, growth and development, jobs, things for people to consume and enjoy life?
Germany had a failed currency once, but it’s the most successful country in Europe now.
I’m fine with a failed Dollar as long as there’s something else to replace it that can ensure prosperity. Therein lies the uncertainty.[/quote]
Brian – If you saved $1M for retirement and all of a sudden we hit rampant inflation, as has happened to every other fiat currency, your retirement goes kaput. Do you want to work the rest of your life because the currency has been wiped out when you are 60? Nobody will be able to pay for healthcare for you either, the GOV will be broke and look like Greece trying to sell all of their buildings and assets to the banks to keep basic GOV services open.
November 30, 2011 at 3:57 PM #733654Guest[quote=flu][quote=markmax33]
The USA’s balance sheet isn’t yours and doesn’t affect you? The fact the other fiat currencies have all failed when the central banks have done the same things don’t mean anything to you? I’m warning you about history and I’m alarmist?[/quote]You’re as extreme as all the other extremists lefty political folks. Lots of talk, lots of jumping up and down.. Your point? Don’t you have an OWS event or a tea-party event to go to right now?
I’ll be the first to say it.
Obama for 2012!!!!! Because a republitard controlled Congress and republitard Prez means another 4 years of disaster on top of the previous 12 we already had.
One of many reasons Ron won’t ever have a chance…
http://www.infowars.com/ron-paul-gets-89-seconds-to-speak-in-cbs-debate/%5B/quote%5D
Flu – Let me correct you for a second:
1. Ron Paul is in first place in Iowa among likely caucus goers. That is the first state. He is getting no national media attention YET he gets the 2nd most political donations. His followers are strong and loyal. You better imagine a world he gets more time, because it’s coming. He’s gone from 0% to 25% in Iowa in 5 years and that is amazing growth.
2. Ross Perot got about 20% of the popular vote. The GOV dissatisfaction rating was around 40% at the time. The GOV dissatsifaction rating is 80% right now and Obama’s approval rating has been nearly as low as GW Bush’s. Those 80% of people are pissed off and going to vote for something else if they have an option and they think he has a chance. When he wins Iowa, maybe comes in 2nd and gets 2nd in Mass, things are going to change.
Remember he’s doing this all with no media help, no $1B donations from big corporations like Obama/GOP. You should be scared, very scared. You can keep slandering him in blogs, it doesn’t really matter, people know the truth and need change.
November 30, 2011 at 4:04 PM #733656Guest[quote=flu][quote=markmax33]
The USA’s balance sheet isn’t yours and doesn’t affect you? The fact the other fiat currencies have all failed when the central banks have done the same things don’t mean anything to you? I’m warning you about history and I’m alarmist?[/quote]You’re as extreme as all the other extremists lefty political folks. Lots of talk, lots of jumping up and down.. Your point? Don’t you have an OWS event or a tea-party event to go to right now?
I’ll be the first to say it.
Obama for 2012!!!!! Because a republitard controlled Congress and republitard Prez means another 4 years of disaster on top of the previous 12 we already had.
One of many reasons Ron won’t ever have a chance…
http://www.infowars.com/ron-paul-gets-89-seconds-to-speak-in-cbs-debate/%5B/quote%5D
Flu – The dems had both houses for 2 years and couldn’t pass a thing with a brand new pretty Obama in white house. The couldn’t pass a balanced budget, they couldnt’ pass much of anything. How is that going to change all of a sudden? Please explain how the republican Congress changed nothing from happening to nothing from happening again? I don’t like the repbulicans any more than you do because they waste money on wars and bogus foreign policy and the dems want the GOV to socialize everything, but neither party has done jack while in power.
It’s actually a bonus that nothing has happened because that means Congress can’t spend much or increase the debt significantly. I pray the supreme court finds Obamacare unconstitutional because it isn’t covered in article 1 section 8 of the constitution. He should bring an ammendment to the floor if he wants Obamacare and do it legally.
November 30, 2011 at 4:24 PM #733657CoronitaParticipant[quote=briansd1][quote=flu]
I’ll be the first to say it.Obama for 2012!!!!! Because a republitard controlled Congress and republitard Prez means another 4 years of disaster on top of the previous 12 we already had.
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Are you just saying that?
Please be true to your word when you mark the ballot next year.[/quote]
No, actually i mean it. I said it before, and I’ll say it again. I vote to make sure the government is incapable of doing anything extreme. And that means making sure there’s enough balance in the government so that not one party dominates…
But, it does pose an interesting question for markmax33.
Markmax33, let’s just assume that Ron Paul doesn’t make it…I know, you think he’s the Messiah but let’s just role play and pretend he doesn’t make it as a candidate. Who are you going to vote for then? Obama or some GOP candidate or some independent… Just curious…November 30, 2011 at 4:49 PM #733666Guest[quote=flu][quote=briansd1][quote=flu]
I’ll be the first to say it.Obama for 2012!!!!! Because a republitard controlled Congress and republitard Prez means another 4 years of disaster on top of the previous 12 we already had.
[/quote]
Are you just saying that?
Please be true to your word when you mark the ballot next year.[/quote]
No, actually i mean it. I said it before, and I’ll say it again. I vote to make sure the government is incapable of doing anything extreme. And that means making sure there’s enough balance in the government so that not one party dominates…
But, it does pose an interesting question for markmax33.
Markmax33, let’s just assume that Ron Paul doesn’t make it…I know, you think he’s the Messiah but let’s just role play and pretend he doesn’t make it as a candidate. Who are you going to vote for then? Obama or some GOP candidate or some independent… Just curious…[/quote]Funny you ask. His supporters have already put together a way for him to get on all 50 ballots for the next election as a 3rd party:
He will never admit it as it would destroy his GOP nomination and his first place vote in Iowa right now but he’ll run 3rd party. He’s already said the hardest part about being the 3 party candidate is getting on all 50 ballots. Additionally all of the debates have been set and he needs 15% to get into the national debates with Mitt and Obama. He will do MUCH better with only 3 poeple on stage. He will be able to actually describe a few things. He surely has the 15% in any poll vs Mitt/Obama at the current time. If you beleive the polls that he’s at 10% in many states among republicans, he’s got another 10%+ democrats that will defect. Remember Obama ran on closing down the wars and all he did was EXPAND the wars. We are in 6+ wars now. Everybody anti-war is going to see RP as the only alternative.
If Ron doesn’t run, I fully expect Rand will probably run 3rd party this year or certainly he will run in the next election. He hinted at it this year. There is nothing lost with Ron Paul’s legacy and his supporters and as his ideas will be around for years to come. He has a couple other sons to that will probably run for Congress with the same ideas. Even if he only goes from 0% vote 5 years ago to 20% of the vote this election it is a huge win for the Libertarian ideas and others will follow as the dems and republicans become more and more futile.
The thing about Ron Paul supporters is that they are the most loyal and dedicated of them all, that’s why you call us crazy. They don’t change votes. I won’t vote for either Obama or Mitt if it comes down to them. It’s the same vote, it’s not worth the walk to the ballot box. Spend-Spend-Spend-WAR and destroy the country is not my idea, nor the founding father’s idea of how the system should work.
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