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February 11, 2008 at 10:36 AM #151860February 11, 2008 at 12:23 PM #151559gnParticipant
My personal opinion is that the Crosby is just a step up from Del Sur.
I agree. Ditto for Santa Luz, just a step up from Del Sur, trying to disguise itself as "equivalent" to RSF.
February 11, 2008 at 12:23 PM #151822gnParticipantMy personal opinion is that the Crosby is just a step up from Del Sur.
I agree. Ditto for Santa Luz, just a step up from Del Sur, trying to disguise itself as "equivalent" to RSF.
February 11, 2008 at 12:23 PM #151828gnParticipantMy personal opinion is that the Crosby is just a step up from Del Sur.
I agree. Ditto for Santa Luz, just a step up from Del Sur, trying to disguise itself as "equivalent" to RSF.
February 11, 2008 at 12:23 PM #151849gnParticipantMy personal opinion is that the Crosby is just a step up from Del Sur.
I agree. Ditto for Santa Luz, just a step up from Del Sur, trying to disguise itself as "equivalent" to RSF.
February 11, 2008 at 12:23 PM #151919gnParticipantMy personal opinion is that the Crosby is just a step up from Del Sur.
I agree. Ditto for Santa Luz, just a step up from Del Sur, trying to disguise itself as "equivalent" to RSF.
February 11, 2008 at 1:26 PM #151583raptorduckParticipantThanks Rene and gn. We have looked at a number of homes in the Covenant and will be looking at additional ones there this weekend. I have found prices in the Covenant to be very reasonable and less overpriced than Santaluz and apparently the Bridges or Crosby (plus no Mello Roos). There are very nice homes in our price range in all the areas we are looking at (FBR, Covenant, Cielo, RSF Farms, Rancho Valencia, Santaluz, CV, and now the Bridges and Crosby).
Of the areas we have looked at so far, as I have said before, Fairbanks Ranch is our favorite, but there are things about each area we liked enough to continue to consider buying a home in any of them at the right price.
No matter what we decide, as I have also stated before, it is a step up in size and quality and a step down in price from what we have found up here in the Bay Area, so we just can’t loose.
If we buy in one particular place over another, it will not be because we think that the nicest area. Chances are it will be the house itself and lot that drives the purchase. My worst case commute will be 17 min, best case 5 min. Compared to 30 min with no traffic here and 1.5 hrs in rush hr.
Here are my Pros and Cons for each area so far:
Fairbanks Ranch Pros: Resort like location, amazing homes, beautiful established neighborhoods, Cons: Many older that homes need interior updates
Covenant: Pros: Lot sizes, privacy, rural feeling, some great homes; Cons: some very old homes, not as easy to get in and out of, sometimes too private, variety in quality.
Rancho Valencia: Pro: Resort access, lush location, Con: none really
RSF Farms: Pro: nice homes, lush location, Con: non really
Cielo: Pro: Amazing views, some very nice homes; Cons: bit isolated, in fire area, location
Santaluz: Pro: Great landscaping theme (this surprised me), amazing custom homes, convenient location, newer homes; Cons: Mello Roos, Poway Schools (Del Sur), overpriced.
CV (Meadows Del Mar). Pros: Uberconvenient location, great homes; Cons: tiny lots, crowded neighborhoods with narrow streets.
We definately prefer gated communities, though some houses in the Covenant were so nice, we would not care so much about that.
February 11, 2008 at 1:26 PM #151848raptorduckParticipantThanks Rene and gn. We have looked at a number of homes in the Covenant and will be looking at additional ones there this weekend. I have found prices in the Covenant to be very reasonable and less overpriced than Santaluz and apparently the Bridges or Crosby (plus no Mello Roos). There are very nice homes in our price range in all the areas we are looking at (FBR, Covenant, Cielo, RSF Farms, Rancho Valencia, Santaluz, CV, and now the Bridges and Crosby).
Of the areas we have looked at so far, as I have said before, Fairbanks Ranch is our favorite, but there are things about each area we liked enough to continue to consider buying a home in any of them at the right price.
No matter what we decide, as I have also stated before, it is a step up in size and quality and a step down in price from what we have found up here in the Bay Area, so we just can’t loose.
If we buy in one particular place over another, it will not be because we think that the nicest area. Chances are it will be the house itself and lot that drives the purchase. My worst case commute will be 17 min, best case 5 min. Compared to 30 min with no traffic here and 1.5 hrs in rush hr.
Here are my Pros and Cons for each area so far:
Fairbanks Ranch Pros: Resort like location, amazing homes, beautiful established neighborhoods, Cons: Many older that homes need interior updates
Covenant: Pros: Lot sizes, privacy, rural feeling, some great homes; Cons: some very old homes, not as easy to get in and out of, sometimes too private, variety in quality.
Rancho Valencia: Pro: Resort access, lush location, Con: none really
RSF Farms: Pro: nice homes, lush location, Con: non really
Cielo: Pro: Amazing views, some very nice homes; Cons: bit isolated, in fire area, location
Santaluz: Pro: Great landscaping theme (this surprised me), amazing custom homes, convenient location, newer homes; Cons: Mello Roos, Poway Schools (Del Sur), overpriced.
CV (Meadows Del Mar). Pros: Uberconvenient location, great homes; Cons: tiny lots, crowded neighborhoods with narrow streets.
We definately prefer gated communities, though some houses in the Covenant were so nice, we would not care so much about that.
February 11, 2008 at 1:26 PM #151851raptorduckParticipantThanks Rene and gn. We have looked at a number of homes in the Covenant and will be looking at additional ones there this weekend. I have found prices in the Covenant to be very reasonable and less overpriced than Santaluz and apparently the Bridges or Crosby (plus no Mello Roos). There are very nice homes in our price range in all the areas we are looking at (FBR, Covenant, Cielo, RSF Farms, Rancho Valencia, Santaluz, CV, and now the Bridges and Crosby).
Of the areas we have looked at so far, as I have said before, Fairbanks Ranch is our favorite, but there are things about each area we liked enough to continue to consider buying a home in any of them at the right price.
No matter what we decide, as I have also stated before, it is a step up in size and quality and a step down in price from what we have found up here in the Bay Area, so we just can’t loose.
If we buy in one particular place over another, it will not be because we think that the nicest area. Chances are it will be the house itself and lot that drives the purchase. My worst case commute will be 17 min, best case 5 min. Compared to 30 min with no traffic here and 1.5 hrs in rush hr.
Here are my Pros and Cons for each area so far:
Fairbanks Ranch Pros: Resort like location, amazing homes, beautiful established neighborhoods, Cons: Many older that homes need interior updates
Covenant: Pros: Lot sizes, privacy, rural feeling, some great homes; Cons: some very old homes, not as easy to get in and out of, sometimes too private, variety in quality.
Rancho Valencia: Pro: Resort access, lush location, Con: none really
RSF Farms: Pro: nice homes, lush location, Con: non really
Cielo: Pro: Amazing views, some very nice homes; Cons: bit isolated, in fire area, location
Santaluz: Pro: Great landscaping theme (this surprised me), amazing custom homes, convenient location, newer homes; Cons: Mello Roos, Poway Schools (Del Sur), overpriced.
CV (Meadows Del Mar). Pros: Uberconvenient location, great homes; Cons: tiny lots, crowded neighborhoods with narrow streets.
We definately prefer gated communities, though some houses in the Covenant were so nice, we would not care so much about that.
February 11, 2008 at 1:26 PM #151873raptorduckParticipantThanks Rene and gn. We have looked at a number of homes in the Covenant and will be looking at additional ones there this weekend. I have found prices in the Covenant to be very reasonable and less overpriced than Santaluz and apparently the Bridges or Crosby (plus no Mello Roos). There are very nice homes in our price range in all the areas we are looking at (FBR, Covenant, Cielo, RSF Farms, Rancho Valencia, Santaluz, CV, and now the Bridges and Crosby).
Of the areas we have looked at so far, as I have said before, Fairbanks Ranch is our favorite, but there are things about each area we liked enough to continue to consider buying a home in any of them at the right price.
No matter what we decide, as I have also stated before, it is a step up in size and quality and a step down in price from what we have found up here in the Bay Area, so we just can’t loose.
If we buy in one particular place over another, it will not be because we think that the nicest area. Chances are it will be the house itself and lot that drives the purchase. My worst case commute will be 17 min, best case 5 min. Compared to 30 min with no traffic here and 1.5 hrs in rush hr.
Here are my Pros and Cons for each area so far:
Fairbanks Ranch Pros: Resort like location, amazing homes, beautiful established neighborhoods, Cons: Many older that homes need interior updates
Covenant: Pros: Lot sizes, privacy, rural feeling, some great homes; Cons: some very old homes, not as easy to get in and out of, sometimes too private, variety in quality.
Rancho Valencia: Pro: Resort access, lush location, Con: none really
RSF Farms: Pro: nice homes, lush location, Con: non really
Cielo: Pro: Amazing views, some very nice homes; Cons: bit isolated, in fire area, location
Santaluz: Pro: Great landscaping theme (this surprised me), amazing custom homes, convenient location, newer homes; Cons: Mello Roos, Poway Schools (Del Sur), overpriced.
CV (Meadows Del Mar). Pros: Uberconvenient location, great homes; Cons: tiny lots, crowded neighborhoods with narrow streets.
We definately prefer gated communities, though some houses in the Covenant were so nice, we would not care so much about that.
February 11, 2008 at 1:26 PM #151944raptorduckParticipantThanks Rene and gn. We have looked at a number of homes in the Covenant and will be looking at additional ones there this weekend. I have found prices in the Covenant to be very reasonable and less overpriced than Santaluz and apparently the Bridges or Crosby (plus no Mello Roos). There are very nice homes in our price range in all the areas we are looking at (FBR, Covenant, Cielo, RSF Farms, Rancho Valencia, Santaluz, CV, and now the Bridges and Crosby).
Of the areas we have looked at so far, as I have said before, Fairbanks Ranch is our favorite, but there are things about each area we liked enough to continue to consider buying a home in any of them at the right price.
No matter what we decide, as I have also stated before, it is a step up in size and quality and a step down in price from what we have found up here in the Bay Area, so we just can’t loose.
If we buy in one particular place over another, it will not be because we think that the nicest area. Chances are it will be the house itself and lot that drives the purchase. My worst case commute will be 17 min, best case 5 min. Compared to 30 min with no traffic here and 1.5 hrs in rush hr.
Here are my Pros and Cons for each area so far:
Fairbanks Ranch Pros: Resort like location, amazing homes, beautiful established neighborhoods, Cons: Many older that homes need interior updates
Covenant: Pros: Lot sizes, privacy, rural feeling, some great homes; Cons: some very old homes, not as easy to get in and out of, sometimes too private, variety in quality.
Rancho Valencia: Pro: Resort access, lush location, Con: none really
RSF Farms: Pro: nice homes, lush location, Con: non really
Cielo: Pro: Amazing views, some very nice homes; Cons: bit isolated, in fire area, location
Santaluz: Pro: Great landscaping theme (this surprised me), amazing custom homes, convenient location, newer homes; Cons: Mello Roos, Poway Schools (Del Sur), overpriced.
CV (Meadows Del Mar). Pros: Uberconvenient location, great homes; Cons: tiny lots, crowded neighborhoods with narrow streets.
We definately prefer gated communities, though some houses in the Covenant were so nice, we would not care so much about that.
February 11, 2008 at 2:28 PM #151603AnonymousGuestgn, raptor,
If I had to choose between the Crosby/Bridges and Santaluz, I think I would choose Santaluz just because of the setting. It is one of the few places in SoCal that does actually feel like Tuscany (and therefore appeals to my European taste).
That said, it is agreed that RSF covenant is in a class of its own. The forrested feel would take years and a staggering amount of water to duplicate anywhere else (the RSF eucalyptus were planted during the 19th century). A community like the Bridges, Crosby or even Santaluz could be setup anywhere in a relatively short time, therefore reducing the value of these communities compared to the covenant.
I like Fairbanks but would feel boxed-in living there. The north loop is also pretty fire-prone. That said, Fairbanks has the best security I have ever seen. It would almost annoy me if I lived there.
Raptor, don’t forget that the cost of updating a home, especially in your price range, represents only a fraction of its purchase price. And by paying less and updating, you avoid paying property taxes ad vitam eternam on the remodeling costs.
Rene
February 11, 2008 at 2:28 PM #151869AnonymousGuestgn, raptor,
If I had to choose between the Crosby/Bridges and Santaluz, I think I would choose Santaluz just because of the setting. It is one of the few places in SoCal that does actually feel like Tuscany (and therefore appeals to my European taste).
That said, it is agreed that RSF covenant is in a class of its own. The forrested feel would take years and a staggering amount of water to duplicate anywhere else (the RSF eucalyptus were planted during the 19th century). A community like the Bridges, Crosby or even Santaluz could be setup anywhere in a relatively short time, therefore reducing the value of these communities compared to the covenant.
I like Fairbanks but would feel boxed-in living there. The north loop is also pretty fire-prone. That said, Fairbanks has the best security I have ever seen. It would almost annoy me if I lived there.
Raptor, don’t forget that the cost of updating a home, especially in your price range, represents only a fraction of its purchase price. And by paying less and updating, you avoid paying property taxes ad vitam eternam on the remodeling costs.
Rene
February 11, 2008 at 2:28 PM #151872AnonymousGuestgn, raptor,
If I had to choose between the Crosby/Bridges and Santaluz, I think I would choose Santaluz just because of the setting. It is one of the few places in SoCal that does actually feel like Tuscany (and therefore appeals to my European taste).
That said, it is agreed that RSF covenant is in a class of its own. The forrested feel would take years and a staggering amount of water to duplicate anywhere else (the RSF eucalyptus were planted during the 19th century). A community like the Bridges, Crosby or even Santaluz could be setup anywhere in a relatively short time, therefore reducing the value of these communities compared to the covenant.
I like Fairbanks but would feel boxed-in living there. The north loop is also pretty fire-prone. That said, Fairbanks has the best security I have ever seen. It would almost annoy me if I lived there.
Raptor, don’t forget that the cost of updating a home, especially in your price range, represents only a fraction of its purchase price. And by paying less and updating, you avoid paying property taxes ad vitam eternam on the remodeling costs.
Rene
February 11, 2008 at 2:28 PM #151893AnonymousGuestgn, raptor,
If I had to choose between the Crosby/Bridges and Santaluz, I think I would choose Santaluz just because of the setting. It is one of the few places in SoCal that does actually feel like Tuscany (and therefore appeals to my European taste).
That said, it is agreed that RSF covenant is in a class of its own. The forrested feel would take years and a staggering amount of water to duplicate anywhere else (the RSF eucalyptus were planted during the 19th century). A community like the Bridges, Crosby or even Santaluz could be setup anywhere in a relatively short time, therefore reducing the value of these communities compared to the covenant.
I like Fairbanks but would feel boxed-in living there. The north loop is also pretty fire-prone. That said, Fairbanks has the best security I have ever seen. It would almost annoy me if I lived there.
Raptor, don’t forget that the cost of updating a home, especially in your price range, represents only a fraction of its purchase price. And by paying less and updating, you avoid paying property taxes ad vitam eternam on the remodeling costs.
Rene
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