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October 10, 2010 at 7:25 PM #616666October 11, 2010 at 6:50 AM #615679temeculaguyParticipant
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She’ll get her’s also but he’ll still get his pension benefits even if he gets fired.[/quote]Actually he probably wont get a pension or benefits. I googled his name, looks like he was in recruiting, other articles say he has 11 years on the department and is 39 years old. He’s not vested in the pension system. Most pensions require he be 50 years old with at least ten years on, or 20 years on if he’s under 50. If he was retirement eligible right now, you’d see him retire today, they can’t take the pension from a retiree for conduct but they certainly can take it from someone still on the job and they do it all the time. The first clue is the paid admin leave, if he was retirement eligible, he would have already done it.
The exception is that after ten years, some pensions systems allow a deferred retirement because they are social security ineligible. After 10 years on, they can get this. It equates to 2% per year of service but doen’t kick in until they are ss eligible at 62. So lets say he makes 7k a month, he get’s 22% of that starting 23 years from now. And likely no medical. That’s not adjusted for inflation until the payment begins, then it goes up with inflation each year. So in the year 2033 he will get $1400 a month, if he goes that route, likly they will block him. Even so, in 2033, $1400 might be what a car payment is, it also might be his cable bill. I know a guy who did something similar, but he wasn’t accused of anything just had a better opportunity and left after about 12 years as a cop, that was 25-30 years ago. He gets about $200 a month right now.
October 11, 2010 at 6:50 AM #615765temeculaguyParticipant[quote]
She’ll get her’s also but he’ll still get his pension benefits even if he gets fired.[/quote]Actually he probably wont get a pension or benefits. I googled his name, looks like he was in recruiting, other articles say he has 11 years on the department and is 39 years old. He’s not vested in the pension system. Most pensions require he be 50 years old with at least ten years on, or 20 years on if he’s under 50. If he was retirement eligible right now, you’d see him retire today, they can’t take the pension from a retiree for conduct but they certainly can take it from someone still on the job and they do it all the time. The first clue is the paid admin leave, if he was retirement eligible, he would have already done it.
The exception is that after ten years, some pensions systems allow a deferred retirement because they are social security ineligible. After 10 years on, they can get this. It equates to 2% per year of service but doen’t kick in until they are ss eligible at 62. So lets say he makes 7k a month, he get’s 22% of that starting 23 years from now. And likely no medical. That’s not adjusted for inflation until the payment begins, then it goes up with inflation each year. So in the year 2033 he will get $1400 a month, if he goes that route, likly they will block him. Even so, in 2033, $1400 might be what a car payment is, it also might be his cable bill. I know a guy who did something similar, but he wasn’t accused of anything just had a better opportunity and left after about 12 years as a cop, that was 25-30 years ago. He gets about $200 a month right now.
October 11, 2010 at 6:50 AM #616321temeculaguyParticipant[quote]
She’ll get her’s also but he’ll still get his pension benefits even if he gets fired.[/quote]Actually he probably wont get a pension or benefits. I googled his name, looks like he was in recruiting, other articles say he has 11 years on the department and is 39 years old. He’s not vested in the pension system. Most pensions require he be 50 years old with at least ten years on, or 20 years on if he’s under 50. If he was retirement eligible right now, you’d see him retire today, they can’t take the pension from a retiree for conduct but they certainly can take it from someone still on the job and they do it all the time. The first clue is the paid admin leave, if he was retirement eligible, he would have already done it.
The exception is that after ten years, some pensions systems allow a deferred retirement because they are social security ineligible. After 10 years on, they can get this. It equates to 2% per year of service but doen’t kick in until they are ss eligible at 62. So lets say he makes 7k a month, he get’s 22% of that starting 23 years from now. And likely no medical. That’s not adjusted for inflation until the payment begins, then it goes up with inflation each year. So in the year 2033 he will get $1400 a month, if he goes that route, likly they will block him. Even so, in 2033, $1400 might be what a car payment is, it also might be his cable bill. I know a guy who did something similar, but he wasn’t accused of anything just had a better opportunity and left after about 12 years as a cop, that was 25-30 years ago. He gets about $200 a month right now.
October 11, 2010 at 6:50 AM #616442temeculaguyParticipant[quote]
She’ll get her’s also but he’ll still get his pension benefits even if he gets fired.[/quote]Actually he probably wont get a pension or benefits. I googled his name, looks like he was in recruiting, other articles say he has 11 years on the department and is 39 years old. He’s not vested in the pension system. Most pensions require he be 50 years old with at least ten years on, or 20 years on if he’s under 50. If he was retirement eligible right now, you’d see him retire today, they can’t take the pension from a retiree for conduct but they certainly can take it from someone still on the job and they do it all the time. The first clue is the paid admin leave, if he was retirement eligible, he would have already done it.
The exception is that after ten years, some pensions systems allow a deferred retirement because they are social security ineligible. After 10 years on, they can get this. It equates to 2% per year of service but doen’t kick in until they are ss eligible at 62. So lets say he makes 7k a month, he get’s 22% of that starting 23 years from now. And likely no medical. That’s not adjusted for inflation until the payment begins, then it goes up with inflation each year. So in the year 2033 he will get $1400 a month, if he goes that route, likly they will block him. Even so, in 2033, $1400 might be what a car payment is, it also might be his cable bill. I know a guy who did something similar, but he wasn’t accused of anything just had a better opportunity and left after about 12 years as a cop, that was 25-30 years ago. He gets about $200 a month right now.
October 11, 2010 at 6:50 AM #616756temeculaguyParticipant[quote]
She’ll get her’s also but he’ll still get his pension benefits even if he gets fired.[/quote]Actually he probably wont get a pension or benefits. I googled his name, looks like he was in recruiting, other articles say he has 11 years on the department and is 39 years old. He’s not vested in the pension system. Most pensions require he be 50 years old with at least ten years on, or 20 years on if he’s under 50. If he was retirement eligible right now, you’d see him retire today, they can’t take the pension from a retiree for conduct but they certainly can take it from someone still on the job and they do it all the time. The first clue is the paid admin leave, if he was retirement eligible, he would have already done it.
The exception is that after ten years, some pensions systems allow a deferred retirement because they are social security ineligible. After 10 years on, they can get this. It equates to 2% per year of service but doen’t kick in until they are ss eligible at 62. So lets say he makes 7k a month, he get’s 22% of that starting 23 years from now. And likely no medical. That’s not adjusted for inflation until the payment begins, then it goes up with inflation each year. So in the year 2033 he will get $1400 a month, if he goes that route, likly they will block him. Even so, in 2033, $1400 might be what a car payment is, it also might be his cable bill. I know a guy who did something similar, but he wasn’t accused of anything just had a better opportunity and left after about 12 years as a cop, that was 25-30 years ago. He gets about $200 a month right now.
October 11, 2010 at 8:46 AM #615699sdrealtorParticipantIf that happens that would be justice. I like justice.
October 11, 2010 at 8:46 AM #615785sdrealtorParticipantIf that happens that would be justice. I like justice.
October 11, 2010 at 8:46 AM #616340sdrealtorParticipantIf that happens that would be justice. I like justice.
October 11, 2010 at 8:46 AM #616462sdrealtorParticipantIf that happens that would be justice. I like justice.
October 11, 2010 at 8:46 AM #616776sdrealtorParticipantIf that happens that would be justice. I like justice.
October 11, 2010 at 8:48 AM #615704ucodegenParticipant[quote jpinpb]
I think I made very clear that I am not condoning his actions. I just don’t like the selective nature. There are plenty of people trashing places. This is not the first incident.
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True, but think of it this way. This cop is also a person who is allowed the decision over life and death of civilians. If he does not have the restraint to control his anger upon being foreclosed upon, will he have restraint on that trigger finger should he get angry while at his job? The resulting cost my be a person’s life, not the inside of a house.October 11, 2010 at 8:48 AM #615790ucodegenParticipant[quote jpinpb]
I think I made very clear that I am not condoning his actions. I just don’t like the selective nature. There are plenty of people trashing places. This is not the first incident.
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True, but think of it this way. This cop is also a person who is allowed the decision over life and death of civilians. If he does not have the restraint to control his anger upon being foreclosed upon, will he have restraint on that trigger finger should he get angry while at his job? The resulting cost my be a person’s life, not the inside of a house.October 11, 2010 at 8:48 AM #616345ucodegenParticipant[quote jpinpb]
I think I made very clear that I am not condoning his actions. I just don’t like the selective nature. There are plenty of people trashing places. This is not the first incident.
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True, but think of it this way. This cop is also a person who is allowed the decision over life and death of civilians. If he does not have the restraint to control his anger upon being foreclosed upon, will he have restraint on that trigger finger should he get angry while at his job? The resulting cost my be a person’s life, not the inside of a house.October 11, 2010 at 8:48 AM #616467ucodegenParticipant[quote jpinpb]
I think I made very clear that I am not condoning his actions. I just don’t like the selective nature. There are plenty of people trashing places. This is not the first incident.
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True, but think of it this way. This cop is also a person who is allowed the decision over life and death of civilians. If he does not have the restraint to control his anger upon being foreclosed upon, will he have restraint on that trigger finger should he get angry while at his job? The resulting cost my be a person’s life, not the inside of a house. -
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