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September 14, 2009 at 6:03 AM #456510September 14, 2009 at 9:04 AM #457148aldanteParticipant
Why not put in an offer at $130/ppsf?
Oh that’s right….I am willing to be you can’t get one of those so called expert real estate agents to put one in for that low?
You know those experts that told us that real estate was just going to go up in 07? You know the ones who have no incentive to encourage a higher offer?
Or could it be our expert and non-conflicted appraisers? Those hard working souls who took all of 30 seconds to sign off on ZILLOW.COM’S well thought out apprasials.
Real Estate is exactly what someone is willing to pay. Is has been well established on this board that the price you pay is up to you! The forces (some tell me) are far more superior to our individual observations.
Nope, the more I see is a snow job. Any broker that tries to put in low ball offers are laughed out or riduculed out of business. Meanwhile all the A**ho*** would have you believe that a house has some emperical price point. Nevermind the TRILLONS of dollars propping this whole farce up. IF THE BANKS DID NOT GET THE TARP – AND IF MARK TO MARKET ACCOUNTING WERE IN PLACE, if the FED DID NOT LEND TRILLIONS of $$ manufactured out of THIN AIR …we would see 1999 prices in SD county.
So the “salty dogs” will reply….”Come on aldante…get with reality TARP and mark-to-market are the new reality…if you want to make money you have to accept what reality is”. You know the guys/gals who would have you believe even today that you “better get in while the getting is good” becasue home prices are going up from here. Problem with that is that TARP and non-mark-to-market are illusions….and as will all illlusions they will disapper. And guess who is left holding the bag……..that salty-dog real estate agent? That mortgage broker? The apprasier (who now has gotten religion?)…….Nope you guessed it….the poor slob who now owns real estate at twice it’s price who will be taxed 3 or 4 times its current level.
COMP killer…nope….the sign of more to come.
Nope the new potential homeowners have one opportunity to get a good price and that is what they sign their name to on the contract. Quit listening to the “experts” who got us into this mess. Listen to your own balance sheet and your own income statement. Nothing else.
ALL above is IMHO.
September 14, 2009 at 9:04 AM #456353aldanteParticipantWhy not put in an offer at $130/ppsf?
Oh that’s right….I am willing to be you can’t get one of those so called expert real estate agents to put one in for that low?
You know those experts that told us that real estate was just going to go up in 07? You know the ones who have no incentive to encourage a higher offer?
Or could it be our expert and non-conflicted appraisers? Those hard working souls who took all of 30 seconds to sign off on ZILLOW.COM’S well thought out apprasials.
Real Estate is exactly what someone is willing to pay. Is has been well established on this board that the price you pay is up to you! The forces (some tell me) are far more superior to our individual observations.
Nope, the more I see is a snow job. Any broker that tries to put in low ball offers are laughed out or riduculed out of business. Meanwhile all the A**ho*** would have you believe that a house has some emperical price point. Nevermind the TRILLONS of dollars propping this whole farce up. IF THE BANKS DID NOT GET THE TARP – AND IF MARK TO MARKET ACCOUNTING WERE IN PLACE, if the FED DID NOT LEND TRILLIONS of $$ manufactured out of THIN AIR …we would see 1999 prices in SD county.
So the “salty dogs” will reply….”Come on aldante…get with reality TARP and mark-to-market are the new reality…if you want to make money you have to accept what reality is”. You know the guys/gals who would have you believe even today that you “better get in while the getting is good” becasue home prices are going up from here. Problem with that is that TARP and non-mark-to-market are illusions….and as will all illlusions they will disapper. And guess who is left holding the bag……..that salty-dog real estate agent? That mortgage broker? The apprasier (who now has gotten religion?)…….Nope you guessed it….the poor slob who now owns real estate at twice it’s price who will be taxed 3 or 4 times its current level.
COMP killer…nope….the sign of more to come.
Nope the new potential homeowners have one opportunity to get a good price and that is what they sign their name to on the contract. Quit listening to the “experts” who got us into this mess. Listen to your own balance sheet and your own income statement. Nothing else.
ALL above is IMHO.
September 14, 2009 at 9:04 AM #456955aldanteParticipantWhy not put in an offer at $130/ppsf?
Oh that’s right….I am willing to be you can’t get one of those so called expert real estate agents to put one in for that low?
You know those experts that told us that real estate was just going to go up in 07? You know the ones who have no incentive to encourage a higher offer?
Or could it be our expert and non-conflicted appraisers? Those hard working souls who took all of 30 seconds to sign off on ZILLOW.COM’S well thought out apprasials.
Real Estate is exactly what someone is willing to pay. Is has been well established on this board that the price you pay is up to you! The forces (some tell me) are far more superior to our individual observations.
Nope, the more I see is a snow job. Any broker that tries to put in low ball offers are laughed out or riduculed out of business. Meanwhile all the A**ho*** would have you believe that a house has some emperical price point. Nevermind the TRILLONS of dollars propping this whole farce up. IF THE BANKS DID NOT GET THE TARP – AND IF MARK TO MARKET ACCOUNTING WERE IN PLACE, if the FED DID NOT LEND TRILLIONS of $$ manufactured out of THIN AIR …we would see 1999 prices in SD county.
So the “salty dogs” will reply….”Come on aldante…get with reality TARP and mark-to-market are the new reality…if you want to make money you have to accept what reality is”. You know the guys/gals who would have you believe even today that you “better get in while the getting is good” becasue home prices are going up from here. Problem with that is that TARP and non-mark-to-market are illusions….and as will all illlusions they will disapper. And guess who is left holding the bag……..that salty-dog real estate agent? That mortgage broker? The apprasier (who now has gotten religion?)…….Nope you guessed it….the poor slob who now owns real estate at twice it’s price who will be taxed 3 or 4 times its current level.
COMP killer…nope….the sign of more to come.
Nope the new potential homeowners have one opportunity to get a good price and that is what they sign their name to on the contract. Quit listening to the “experts” who got us into this mess. Listen to your own balance sheet and your own income statement. Nothing else.
ALL above is IMHO.
September 14, 2009 at 9:04 AM #456545aldanteParticipantWhy not put in an offer at $130/ppsf?
Oh that’s right….I am willing to be you can’t get one of those so called expert real estate agents to put one in for that low?
You know those experts that told us that real estate was just going to go up in 07? You know the ones who have no incentive to encourage a higher offer?
Or could it be our expert and non-conflicted appraisers? Those hard working souls who took all of 30 seconds to sign off on ZILLOW.COM’S well thought out apprasials.
Real Estate is exactly what someone is willing to pay. Is has been well established on this board that the price you pay is up to you! The forces (some tell me) are far more superior to our individual observations.
Nope, the more I see is a snow job. Any broker that tries to put in low ball offers are laughed out or riduculed out of business. Meanwhile all the A**ho*** would have you believe that a house has some emperical price point. Nevermind the TRILLONS of dollars propping this whole farce up. IF THE BANKS DID NOT GET THE TARP – AND IF MARK TO MARKET ACCOUNTING WERE IN PLACE, if the FED DID NOT LEND TRILLIONS of $$ manufactured out of THIN AIR …we would see 1999 prices in SD county.
So the “salty dogs” will reply….”Come on aldante…get with reality TARP and mark-to-market are the new reality…if you want to make money you have to accept what reality is”. You know the guys/gals who would have you believe even today that you “better get in while the getting is good” becasue home prices are going up from here. Problem with that is that TARP and non-mark-to-market are illusions….and as will all illlusions they will disapper. And guess who is left holding the bag……..that salty-dog real estate agent? That mortgage broker? The apprasier (who now has gotten religion?)…….Nope you guessed it….the poor slob who now owns real estate at twice it’s price who will be taxed 3 or 4 times its current level.
COMP killer…nope….the sign of more to come.
Nope the new potential homeowners have one opportunity to get a good price and that is what they sign their name to on the contract. Quit listening to the “experts” who got us into this mess. Listen to your own balance sheet and your own income statement. Nothing else.
ALL above is IMHO.
September 14, 2009 at 9:04 AM #456885aldanteParticipantWhy not put in an offer at $130/ppsf?
Oh that’s right….I am willing to be you can’t get one of those so called expert real estate agents to put one in for that low?
You know those experts that told us that real estate was just going to go up in 07? You know the ones who have no incentive to encourage a higher offer?
Or could it be our expert and non-conflicted appraisers? Those hard working souls who took all of 30 seconds to sign off on ZILLOW.COM’S well thought out apprasials.
Real Estate is exactly what someone is willing to pay. Is has been well established on this board that the price you pay is up to you! The forces (some tell me) are far more superior to our individual observations.
Nope, the more I see is a snow job. Any broker that tries to put in low ball offers are laughed out or riduculed out of business. Meanwhile all the A**ho*** would have you believe that a house has some emperical price point. Nevermind the TRILLONS of dollars propping this whole farce up. IF THE BANKS DID NOT GET THE TARP – AND IF MARK TO MARKET ACCOUNTING WERE IN PLACE, if the FED DID NOT LEND TRILLIONS of $$ manufactured out of THIN AIR …we would see 1999 prices in SD county.
So the “salty dogs” will reply….”Come on aldante…get with reality TARP and mark-to-market are the new reality…if you want to make money you have to accept what reality is”. You know the guys/gals who would have you believe even today that you “better get in while the getting is good” becasue home prices are going up from here. Problem with that is that TARP and non-mark-to-market are illusions….and as will all illlusions they will disapper. And guess who is left holding the bag……..that salty-dog real estate agent? That mortgage broker? The apprasier (who now has gotten religion?)…….Nope you guessed it….the poor slob who now owns real estate at twice it’s price who will be taxed 3 or 4 times its current level.
COMP killer…nope….the sign of more to come.
Nope the new potential homeowners have one opportunity to get a good price and that is what they sign their name to on the contract. Quit listening to the “experts” who got us into this mess. Listen to your own balance sheet and your own income statement. Nothing else.
ALL above is IMHO.
September 14, 2009 at 9:22 AM #456558outtamojoParticipantYeah, SEH my target area-don’t wanna tell anyone if I bot already or not, cyberstalkers you know-I use Outtamojo for a long time, on many forums some very heated : ) As for your house search, let me guess: you told your realtor you wanted to look for bargains- reo’s, short sales and stuff. So, he/she drags you down to Questhaven area of SEH, where entire streets are for sale. You post this on SDL and they say yeah you can’t make this stuff up yada yada. Your bearishness is thus “confirmed”. Ok, what if you tell me you want to see some really sick people. I drag you to a hospice. Will you then conclude that we are all about to die? I could give you a tour of my hood of about 140 some-odd homes :1 has a for sale sign, 1 is abandoned. Shadow inventory to come out where I live? Hah, that would just return us to NORMAL for-sale levels. Anyway, my point is, when I started looking, I thought they would practically GIVE me the house-until I actually started making offers. If this trade war gets outta hand you may get your $128 sq/ft home but until then, I would try to balance the responses you get from your written offers with whatever the perma bears project.
September 14, 2009 at 9:22 AM #457161outtamojoParticipantYeah, SEH my target area-don’t wanna tell anyone if I bot already or not, cyberstalkers you know-I use Outtamojo for a long time, on many forums some very heated : ) As for your house search, let me guess: you told your realtor you wanted to look for bargains- reo’s, short sales and stuff. So, he/she drags you down to Questhaven area of SEH, where entire streets are for sale. You post this on SDL and they say yeah you can’t make this stuff up yada yada. Your bearishness is thus “confirmed”. Ok, what if you tell me you want to see some really sick people. I drag you to a hospice. Will you then conclude that we are all about to die? I could give you a tour of my hood of about 140 some-odd homes :1 has a for sale sign, 1 is abandoned. Shadow inventory to come out where I live? Hah, that would just return us to NORMAL for-sale levels. Anyway, my point is, when I started looking, I thought they would practically GIVE me the house-until I actually started making offers. If this trade war gets outta hand you may get your $128 sq/ft home but until then, I would try to balance the responses you get from your written offers with whatever the perma bears project.
September 14, 2009 at 9:22 AM #456365outtamojoParticipantYeah, SEH my target area-don’t wanna tell anyone if I bot already or not, cyberstalkers you know-I use Outtamojo for a long time, on many forums some very heated : ) As for your house search, let me guess: you told your realtor you wanted to look for bargains- reo’s, short sales and stuff. So, he/she drags you down to Questhaven area of SEH, where entire streets are for sale. You post this on SDL and they say yeah you can’t make this stuff up yada yada. Your bearishness is thus “confirmed”. Ok, what if you tell me you want to see some really sick people. I drag you to a hospice. Will you then conclude that we are all about to die? I could give you a tour of my hood of about 140 some-odd homes :1 has a for sale sign, 1 is abandoned. Shadow inventory to come out where I live? Hah, that would just return us to NORMAL for-sale levels. Anyway, my point is, when I started looking, I thought they would practically GIVE me the house-until I actually started making offers. If this trade war gets outta hand you may get your $128 sq/ft home but until then, I would try to balance the responses you get from your written offers with whatever the perma bears project.
September 14, 2009 at 9:22 AM #456898outtamojoParticipantYeah, SEH my target area-don’t wanna tell anyone if I bot already or not, cyberstalkers you know-I use Outtamojo for a long time, on many forums some very heated : ) As for your house search, let me guess: you told your realtor you wanted to look for bargains- reo’s, short sales and stuff. So, he/she drags you down to Questhaven area of SEH, where entire streets are for sale. You post this on SDL and they say yeah you can’t make this stuff up yada yada. Your bearishness is thus “confirmed”. Ok, what if you tell me you want to see some really sick people. I drag you to a hospice. Will you then conclude that we are all about to die? I could give you a tour of my hood of about 140 some-odd homes :1 has a for sale sign, 1 is abandoned. Shadow inventory to come out where I live? Hah, that would just return us to NORMAL for-sale levels. Anyway, my point is, when I started looking, I thought they would practically GIVE me the house-until I actually started making offers. If this trade war gets outta hand you may get your $128 sq/ft home but until then, I would try to balance the responses you get from your written offers with whatever the perma bears project.
September 14, 2009 at 9:22 AM #456969outtamojoParticipantYeah, SEH my target area-don’t wanna tell anyone if I bot already or not, cyberstalkers you know-I use Outtamojo for a long time, on many forums some very heated : ) As for your house search, let me guess: you told your realtor you wanted to look for bargains- reo’s, short sales and stuff. So, he/she drags you down to Questhaven area of SEH, where entire streets are for sale. You post this on SDL and they say yeah you can’t make this stuff up yada yada. Your bearishness is thus “confirmed”. Ok, what if you tell me you want to see some really sick people. I drag you to a hospice. Will you then conclude that we are all about to die? I could give you a tour of my hood of about 140 some-odd homes :1 has a for sale sign, 1 is abandoned. Shadow inventory to come out where I live? Hah, that would just return us to NORMAL for-sale levels. Anyway, my point is, when I started looking, I thought they would practically GIVE me the house-until I actually started making offers. If this trade war gets outta hand you may get your $128 sq/ft home but until then, I would try to balance the responses you get from your written offers with whatever the perma bears project.
September 14, 2009 at 9:53 AM #456974propertysearchaddictionParticipantMy realtor didn’t need to drag me down there to see distressed houses because I live here and know a lot of the distressed homeowners personally. The ironic thing was that we both had a huge list and we both had many homes that weren’t on each others list.
We won’t make any offers until October. I would like to wait until the $8,000 tax credit expires or wait to see if it turns into $15,000. There are also about 20 homes to be auctioned this month so I would like to wait and see if that actually happens.
We will probably make our offers in Nov/Dec. To even attempt an offer like that we will need the Tax credit expired/holidays. My feelings aren’t going to be hurt if the bank says no. My strategy is to give it a try this winter. If it doesn’t happen we’ll simply pay more in the spring. I can’t ignore that prices have statistically fallen 10% every winter for the last 4 years after a spring/summer bounce.
September 14, 2009 at 9:53 AM #456370propertysearchaddictionParticipantMy realtor didn’t need to drag me down there to see distressed houses because I live here and know a lot of the distressed homeowners personally. The ironic thing was that we both had a huge list and we both had many homes that weren’t on each others list.
We won’t make any offers until October. I would like to wait until the $8,000 tax credit expires or wait to see if it turns into $15,000. There are also about 20 homes to be auctioned this month so I would like to wait and see if that actually happens.
We will probably make our offers in Nov/Dec. To even attempt an offer like that we will need the Tax credit expired/holidays. My feelings aren’t going to be hurt if the bank says no. My strategy is to give it a try this winter. If it doesn’t happen we’ll simply pay more in the spring. I can’t ignore that prices have statistically fallen 10% every winter for the last 4 years after a spring/summer bounce.
September 14, 2009 at 9:53 AM #457166propertysearchaddictionParticipantMy realtor didn’t need to drag me down there to see distressed houses because I live here and know a lot of the distressed homeowners personally. The ironic thing was that we both had a huge list and we both had many homes that weren’t on each others list.
We won’t make any offers until October. I would like to wait until the $8,000 tax credit expires or wait to see if it turns into $15,000. There are also about 20 homes to be auctioned this month so I would like to wait and see if that actually happens.
We will probably make our offers in Nov/Dec. To even attempt an offer like that we will need the Tax credit expired/holidays. My feelings aren’t going to be hurt if the bank says no. My strategy is to give it a try this winter. If it doesn’t happen we’ll simply pay more in the spring. I can’t ignore that prices have statistically fallen 10% every winter for the last 4 years after a spring/summer bounce.
September 14, 2009 at 9:53 AM #456563propertysearchaddictionParticipantMy realtor didn’t need to drag me down there to see distressed houses because I live here and know a lot of the distressed homeowners personally. The ironic thing was that we both had a huge list and we both had many homes that weren’t on each others list.
We won’t make any offers until October. I would like to wait until the $8,000 tax credit expires or wait to see if it turns into $15,000. There are also about 20 homes to be auctioned this month so I would like to wait and see if that actually happens.
We will probably make our offers in Nov/Dec. To even attempt an offer like that we will need the Tax credit expired/holidays. My feelings aren’t going to be hurt if the bank says no. My strategy is to give it a try this winter. If it doesn’t happen we’ll simply pay more in the spring. I can’t ignore that prices have statistically fallen 10% every winter for the last 4 years after a spring/summer bounce.
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