Chiropractors/ Healers or Quacks

[GoUSC]

I think Chiro’s are mostly quacks. The game is to get you to come in once for an adjustment this leads to you needing another adjustment a month later. The more they work on you, the worse it gets, the more adjustments you need.

Pure quackery.

[Raybyrnes]

Navydoc
“I have to wonder why you are considering this. Do you have a specific complaint? Going to a chiropractor to see if “everything is in good shape” seems kind of silly to me”

I feel as though I am in good shape. But I am 6’5 and have some scoleosis. I also look at my 60 yer old father who has very bad sciatica and struggle to walk a mile.

I guess I look at this as an ounce of prevention. Additionlly I overestimated my contribution to my flex plan. Wife got pregnant so there goes the need for Birth control, turns out that we were all healthy this year, and nothing major came up. So I have some money to experiment with.

Again I have heard mixed opinions about chiropractors. I had an initial consultation and it felt as though it was a little Treatment Oriented (ie reoccuring charge) I guess it comes down to giving it to an insurance company and getting 0 or going to a chiropractor and potentially finding something out (could also be 0)

[Raybyrnes]

Navydoc
“I have to wonder why you are considering this. Do you have a specific complaint? Going to a chiropractor to see if “everything is in good shape” seems kind of silly to me”

I feel as though I am in good shape. But I am 6’5 and have some scoleosis. I also look at my 60 yer old father who has very bad sciatica and struggle to walk a mile.

I guess I look at this as an ounce of prevention. Additionlly I overestimated my contribution to my flex plan. Wife got pregnant so there goes the need for Birth control, turns out that we were all healthy this year, and nothing major came up. So I have some money to experiment with.

Again I have heard mixed opinions about chiropractors. I had an initial consultation and it felt as though it was a little Treatment Oriented (ie reoccuring charge) I guess it comes down to giving it to an insurance company and getting 0 or going to a chiropractor and potentially finding something out (could also be 0)

[Raybyrnes]

Navydoc
“I have to wonder why you are considering this. Do you have a specific complaint? Going to a chiropractor to see if “everything is in good shape” seems kind of silly to me”

I feel as though I am in good shape. But I am 6’5 and have some scoleosis. I also look at my 60 yer old father who has very bad sciatica and struggle to walk a mile.

I guess I look at this as an ounce of prevention. Additionlly I overestimated my contribution to my flex plan. Wife got pregnant so there goes the need for Birth control, turns out that we were all healthy this year, and nothing major came up. So I have some money to experiment with.

Again I have heard mixed opinions about chiropractors. I had an initial consultation and it felt as though it was a little Treatment Oriented (ie reoccuring charge) I guess it comes down to giving it to an insurance company and getting 0 or going to a chiropractor and potentially finding something out (could also be 0)

[Raybyrnes]

Navydoc
“I have to wonder why you are considering this. Do you have a specific complaint? Going to a chiropractor to see if “everything is in good shape” seems kind of silly to me”

I feel as though I am in good shape. But I am 6’5 and have some scoleosis. I also look at my 60 yer old father who has very bad sciatica and struggle to walk a mile.

I guess I look at this as an ounce of prevention. Additionlly I overestimated my contribution to my flex plan. Wife got pregnant so there goes the need for Birth control, turns out that we were all healthy this year, and nothing major came up. So I have some money to experiment with.

Again I have heard mixed opinions about chiropractors. I had an initial consultation and it felt as though it was a little Treatment Oriented (ie reoccuring charge) I guess it comes down to giving it to an insurance company and getting 0 or going to a chiropractor and potentially finding something out (could also be 0)

[Raybyrnes]

Navydoc
“I have to wonder why you are considering this. Do you have a specific complaint? Going to a chiropractor to see if “everything is in good shape” seems kind of silly to me”

I feel as though I am in good shape. But I am 6’5 and have some scoleosis. I also look at my 60 yer old father who has very bad sciatica and struggle to walk a mile.

I guess I look at this as an ounce of prevention. Additionlly I overestimated my contribution to my flex plan. Wife got pregnant so there goes the need for Birth control, turns out that we were all healthy this year, and nothing major came up. So I have some money to experiment with.

Again I have heard mixed opinions about chiropractors. I had an initial consultation and it felt as though it was a little Treatment Oriented (ie reoccuring charge) I guess it comes down to giving it to an insurance company and getting 0 or going to a chiropractor and potentially finding something out (could also be 0)

[zk]

I wonder if “RatherOpinionated” is a chiropractor.

In my opinion, they’re quacks. The Simpsons summed it up perfectly. Homer goes to a chiropractor. Homer gets his back cracked; he makes his usual noises. Then, looking surprised and sounding a little bit excited, he says, “it feels a little better!” Then the quack says, “come back twice a week for the next 30 years.”

Navy Doc: “there is some evidence based science to what they do.” Well, “some evidence” doesn’t sound very convincing, and what studies I’ve seen are either suspect studies (not placebo-controlled, double-blind), or not peer-reviewed, or funded by (and therefore subject to spin by) chiropractic-related groups. Part of the problem is, you can’t really do a double blind study in this case. I don’t know if you can even do “placebo” chiropractic. And even if you have a chiropractor giving “fake” chiropractic, he (the “doctor”) would know that that patient was in the placebo group. Not to mention that he could “manipulate” the study (pun intended) by purposely worsening the condition of the placebo patients. Which, of course, he would have every motivation to do.

Also, just a few weeks ago, a guy at work’s wife had a stroke. I can’t remember what kind of stroke they called it, exactly, but it was due to some kind of injury to her carotid artery. They don’t know for sure what caused the injury, but they suspect it could’ve been the chiropractic treatment she’d been receiving.

Anyway, it does seem like a great way for a bunch of people to take money from your typical, unskeptical person. I think the quote, “nobody ever lost money underestimating the intelligence of the public” would be more accurately put, “nobody ever lost money underestimating the skepticalness of the public.” It never ceases to amaze me how people consistently believe in something despite a lack of evidence.

[zk]

I wonder if “RatherOpinionated” is a chiropractor.

In my opinion, they’re quacks. The Simpsons summed it up perfectly. Homer goes to a chiropractor. Homer gets his back cracked; he makes his usual noises. Then, looking surprised and sounding a little bit excited, he says, “it feels a little better!” Then the quack says, “come back twice a week for the next 30 years.”

Navy Doc: “there is some evidence based science to what they do.” Well, “some evidence” doesn’t sound very convincing, and what studies I’ve seen are either suspect studies (not placebo-controlled, double-blind), or not peer-reviewed, or funded by (and therefore subject to spin by) chiropractic-related groups. Part of the problem is, you can’t really do a double blind study in this case. I don’t know if you can even do “placebo” chiropractic. And even if you have a chiropractor giving “fake” chiropractic, he (the “doctor”) would know that that patient was in the placebo group. Not to mention that he could “manipulate” the study (pun intended) by purposely worsening the condition of the placebo patients. Which, of course, he would have every motivation to do.

Also, just a few weeks ago, a guy at work’s wife had a stroke. I can’t remember what kind of stroke they called it, exactly, but it was due to some kind of injury to her carotid artery. They don’t know for sure what caused the injury, but they suspect it could’ve been the chiropractic treatment she’d been receiving.

Anyway, it does seem like a great way for a bunch of people to take money from your typical, unskeptical person. I think the quote, “nobody ever lost money underestimating the intelligence of the public” would be more accurately put, “nobody ever lost money underestimating the skepticalness of the public.” It never ceases to amaze me how people consistently believe in something despite a lack of evidence.

[zk]

I wonder if “RatherOpinionated” is a chiropractor.

In my opinion, they’re quacks. The Simpsons summed it up perfectly. Homer goes to a chiropractor. Homer gets his back cracked; he makes his usual noises. Then, looking surprised and sounding a little bit excited, he says, “it feels a little better!” Then the quack says, “come back twice a week for the next 30 years.”

Navy Doc: “there is some evidence based science to what they do.” Well, “some evidence” doesn’t sound very convincing, and what studies I’ve seen are either suspect studies (not placebo-controlled, double-blind), or not peer-reviewed, or funded by (and therefore subject to spin by) chiropractic-related groups. Part of the problem is, you can’t really do a double blind study in this case. I don’t know if you can even do “placebo” chiropractic. And even if you have a chiropractor giving “fake” chiropractic, he (the “doctor”) would know that that patient was in the placebo group. Not to mention that he could “manipulate” the study (pun intended) by purposely worsening the condition of the placebo patients. Which, of course, he would have every motivation to do.

Also, just a few weeks ago, a guy at work’s wife had a stroke. I can’t remember what kind of stroke they called it, exactly, but it was due to some kind of injury to her carotid artery. They don’t know for sure what caused the injury, but they suspect it could’ve been the chiropractic treatment she’d been receiving.

Anyway, it does seem like a great way for a bunch of people to take money from your typical, unskeptical person. I think the quote, “nobody ever lost money underestimating the intelligence of the public” would be more accurately put, “nobody ever lost money underestimating the skepticalness of the public.” It never ceases to amaze me how people consistently believe in something despite a lack of evidence.

[zk]

I wonder if “RatherOpinionated” is a chiropractor.

In my opinion, they’re quacks. The Simpsons summed it up perfectly. Homer goes to a chiropractor. Homer gets his back cracked; he makes his usual noises. Then, looking surprised and sounding a little bit excited, he says, “it feels a little better!” Then the quack says, “come back twice a week for the next 30 years.”

Navy Doc: “there is some evidence based science to what they do.” Well, “some evidence” doesn’t sound very convincing, and what studies I’ve seen are either suspect studies (not placebo-controlled, double-blind), or not peer-reviewed, or funded by (and therefore subject to spin by) chiropractic-related groups. Part of the problem is, you can’t really do a double blind study in this case. I don’t know if you can even do “placebo” chiropractic. And even if you have a chiropractor giving “fake” chiropractic, he (the “doctor”) would know that that patient was in the placebo group. Not to mention that he could “manipulate” the study (pun intended) by purposely worsening the condition of the placebo patients. Which, of course, he would have every motivation to do.

Also, just a few weeks ago, a guy at work’s wife had a stroke. I can’t remember what kind of stroke they called it, exactly, but it was due to some kind of injury to her carotid artery. They don’t know for sure what caused the injury, but they suspect it could’ve been the chiropractic treatment she’d been receiving.

Anyway, it does seem like a great way for a bunch of people to take money from your typical, unskeptical person. I think the quote, “nobody ever lost money underestimating the intelligence of the public” would be more accurately put, “nobody ever lost money underestimating the skepticalness of the public.” It never ceases to amaze me how people consistently believe in something despite a lack of evidence.

[zk]

I wonder if “RatherOpinionated” is a chiropractor.

In my opinion, they’re quacks. The Simpsons summed it up perfectly. Homer goes to a chiropractor. Homer gets his back cracked; he makes his usual noises. Then, looking surprised and sounding a little bit excited, he says, “it feels a little better!” Then the quack says, “come back twice a week for the next 30 years.”

Navy Doc: “there is some evidence based science to what they do.” Well, “some evidence” doesn’t sound very convincing, and what studies I’ve seen are either suspect studies (not placebo-controlled, double-blind), or not peer-reviewed, or funded by (and therefore subject to spin by) chiropractic-related groups. Part of the problem is, you can’t really do a double blind study in this case. I don’t know if you can even do “placebo” chiropractic. And even if you have a chiropractor giving “fake” chiropractic, he (the “doctor”) would know that that patient was in the placebo group. Not to mention that he could “manipulate” the study (pun intended) by purposely worsening the condition of the placebo patients. Which, of course, he would have every motivation to do.

Also, just a few weeks ago, a guy at work’s wife had a stroke. I can’t remember what kind of stroke they called it, exactly, but it was due to some kind of injury to her carotid artery. They don’t know for sure what caused the injury, but they suspect it could’ve been the chiropractic treatment she’d been receiving.

Anyway, it does seem like a great way for a bunch of people to take money from your typical, unskeptical person. I think the quote, “nobody ever lost money underestimating the intelligence of the public” would be more accurately put, “nobody ever lost money underestimating the skepticalness of the public.” It never ceases to amaze me how people consistently believe in something despite a lack of evidence.

[Ash Housewares]

I think a lot of whether or not you think it works depends on your perception and expectations. I recall not too long ago reading that “fake” acupuncture is better than drugs for treating some types of pain. Why shouldn’t chiropractic care be the same? If you expect it will help you, it probably will make you feel better, even if there was no physical change. It’s all in your head. Perception is powerful.

[Ash Housewares]

I think a lot of whether or not you think it works depends on your perception and expectations. I recall not too long ago reading that “fake” acupuncture is better than drugs for treating some types of pain. Why shouldn’t chiropractic care be the same? If you expect it will help you, it probably will make you feel better, even if there was no physical change. It’s all in your head. Perception is powerful.

[Ash Housewares]

I think a lot of whether or not you think it works depends on your perception and expectations. I recall not too long ago reading that “fake” acupuncture is better than drugs for treating some types of pain. Why shouldn’t chiropractic care be the same? If you expect it will help you, it probably will make you feel better, even if there was no physical change. It’s all in your head. Perception is powerful.

[Ash Housewares]

I think a lot of whether or not you think it works depends on your perception and expectations. I recall not too long ago reading that “fake” acupuncture is better than drugs for treating some types of pain. Why shouldn’t chiropractic care be the same? If you expect it will help you, it probably will make you feel better, even if there was no physical change. It’s all in your head. Perception is powerful.

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