Change is in the air

[Zeitgeist]

There you go again Brian. Please point out where I talked about family values. I want a real quote, not all the lies you usually pull out of your ass when trying to debate Allan. You are an idiot. You attribute feelings, statements, and ideology to people based on your bias, insecurity and blind allegiance to your faithless political beliefs. Quit attacking everyone who does not fall into your lockstep, Liberal, secular progressive dip shit world. I personally am quite sick of reading your stupid political drivel. People like you make abortion look appropriate and necessary.

[briansd1]

I thought that family values, compassion, and right to life were on the Republican platform — apparently just in name only.

Retroactive abortion is a concept that I find fascinating if technology would allow it. But wouldn’t that be messing with God’s will?

[briansd1]

I thought that family values, compassion, and right to life were on the Republican platform — apparently just in name only.

Retroactive abortion is a concept that I find fascinating if technology would allow it. But wouldn’t that be messing with God’s will?

[briansd1]

I thought that family values, compassion, and right to life were on the Republican platform — apparently just in name only.

Retroactive abortion is a concept that I find fascinating if technology would allow it. But wouldn’t that be messing with God’s will?

[briansd1]

I thought that family values, compassion, and right to life were on the Republican platform — apparently just in name only.

Retroactive abortion is a concept that I find fascinating if technology would allow it. But wouldn’t that be messing with God’s will?

[briansd1]

I thought that family values, compassion, and right to life were on the Republican platform — apparently just in name only.

Retroactive abortion is a concept that I find fascinating if technology would allow it. But wouldn’t that be messing with God’s will?

[Zeitgeist]

Free will.

[Zeitgeist]

Free will.

[Zeitgeist]

Free will.

[Zeitgeist]

Free will.

[Zeitgeist]

Free will.

[Coronita]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Wickedheart]
Last I heard even though Obama wasn’t proposing to tax your health care benefits taxing them wasn’t off the table and he wasn’t going to oppose it either. The benefit is what candidate Obama refer to as “the largest tax middle-class tax increase in history.” Of course it’s going to pass the gov is in desperate need of a new source of revenue.[/quote]

Obama wants to tax Cadillac plans… luxury medical plans for executives.

I don’t see a problem with taxing medical benefits. They are part of compensation so they should be taxed like salary. Makes sense to me.[/quote]

Oh please, did you even read the fine print in what obama considered the Cadillac plans when it was originally written? Why did the unions oppose these taxes? Because a lot of those plans from those unions were considered cadillac plans. In fact a lot of employer sponsored plans would end up being cadillac plans. They are NOT just taxes on executives. It’s all a ruse. The bulk of the taxes are and will always be paid for by the upper middle class. Always has/always will.

Do you really think that someone like Steve Jobs, despite his cancer, really *needs* medical insurance?

[Coronita]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Wickedheart]
Last I heard even though Obama wasn’t proposing to tax your health care benefits taxing them wasn’t off the table and he wasn’t going to oppose it either. The benefit is what candidate Obama refer to as “the largest tax middle-class tax increase in history.” Of course it’s going to pass the gov is in desperate need of a new source of revenue.[/quote]

Obama wants to tax Cadillac plans… luxury medical plans for executives.

I don’t see a problem with taxing medical benefits. They are part of compensation so they should be taxed like salary. Makes sense to me.[/quote]

Oh please, did you even read the fine print in what obama considered the Cadillac plans when it was originally written? Why did the unions oppose these taxes? Because a lot of those plans from those unions were considered cadillac plans. In fact a lot of employer sponsored plans would end up being cadillac plans. They are NOT just taxes on executives. It’s all a ruse. The bulk of the taxes are and will always be paid for by the upper middle class. Always has/always will.

Do you really think that someone like Steve Jobs, despite his cancer, really *needs* medical insurance?

[Coronita]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Wickedheart]
Last I heard even though Obama wasn’t proposing to tax your health care benefits taxing them wasn’t off the table and he wasn’t going to oppose it either. The benefit is what candidate Obama refer to as “the largest tax middle-class tax increase in history.” Of course it’s going to pass the gov is in desperate need of a new source of revenue.[/quote]

Obama wants to tax Cadillac plans… luxury medical plans for executives.

I don’t see a problem with taxing medical benefits. They are part of compensation so they should be taxed like salary. Makes sense to me.[/quote]

Oh please, did you even read the fine print in what obama considered the Cadillac plans when it was originally written? Why did the unions oppose these taxes? Because a lot of those plans from those unions were considered cadillac plans. In fact a lot of employer sponsored plans would end up being cadillac plans. They are NOT just taxes on executives. It’s all a ruse. The bulk of the taxes are and will always be paid for by the upper middle class. Always has/always will.

Do you really think that someone like Steve Jobs, despite his cancer, really *needs* medical insurance?

[Coronita]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Wickedheart]
Last I heard even though Obama wasn’t proposing to tax your health care benefits taxing them wasn’t off the table and he wasn’t going to oppose it either. The benefit is what candidate Obama refer to as “the largest tax middle-class tax increase in history.” Of course it’s going to pass the gov is in desperate need of a new source of revenue.[/quote]

Obama wants to tax Cadillac plans… luxury medical plans for executives.

I don’t see a problem with taxing medical benefits. They are part of compensation so they should be taxed like salary. Makes sense to me.[/quote]

Oh please, did you even read the fine print in what obama considered the Cadillac plans when it was originally written? Why did the unions oppose these taxes? Because a lot of those plans from those unions were considered cadillac plans. In fact a lot of employer sponsored plans would end up being cadillac plans. They are NOT just taxes on executives. It’s all a ruse. The bulk of the taxes are and will always be paid for by the upper middle class. Always has/always will.

Do you really think that someone like Steve Jobs, despite his cancer, really *needs* medical insurance?

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