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February 21, 2009 at 11:07 AM #351813February 21, 2009 at 1:08 PM #351316sd_mattParticipant
So both the Dems and Repubs have sold us out to illegal immigrants. One doesn’t come down on big businesses who hire illegals and the other creates a class of dependents out of them and tries to give them licenses in exchange for votes. Yet another reason to vote third party for a term or two.
February 21, 2009 at 1:08 PM #351629sd_mattParticipantSo both the Dems and Repubs have sold us out to illegal immigrants. One doesn’t come down on big businesses who hire illegals and the other creates a class of dependents out of them and tries to give them licenses in exchange for votes. Yet another reason to vote third party for a term or two.
February 21, 2009 at 1:08 PM #351755sd_mattParticipantSo both the Dems and Repubs have sold us out to illegal immigrants. One doesn’t come down on big businesses who hire illegals and the other creates a class of dependents out of them and tries to give them licenses in exchange for votes. Yet another reason to vote third party for a term or two.
February 21, 2009 at 1:08 PM #351790sd_mattParticipantSo both the Dems and Repubs have sold us out to illegal immigrants. One doesn’t come down on big businesses who hire illegals and the other creates a class of dependents out of them and tries to give them licenses in exchange for votes. Yet another reason to vote third party for a term or two.
February 21, 2009 at 1:08 PM #351888sd_mattParticipantSo both the Dems and Repubs have sold us out to illegal immigrants. One doesn’t come down on big businesses who hire illegals and the other creates a class of dependents out of them and tries to give them licenses in exchange for votes. Yet another reason to vote third party for a term or two.
February 21, 2009 at 1:40 PM #351361sd_mattParticipantpeterb
Why do you think people overlooking Moldanado’s open primary ballot so much? I personally think it’s because it’s a long term solution and foresight not in the American vocabulary.
I’m not sure how much of a difference it will make but I’m willing to give it a try. If nothing else it will piss both sides off. I agree that the Dems and Repubs, and don’t forget AM radio and NPR will do their best to shoot it down.
February 21, 2009 at 1:40 PM #351674sd_mattParticipantpeterb
Why do you think people overlooking Moldanado’s open primary ballot so much? I personally think it’s because it’s a long term solution and foresight not in the American vocabulary.
I’m not sure how much of a difference it will make but I’m willing to give it a try. If nothing else it will piss both sides off. I agree that the Dems and Repubs, and don’t forget AM radio and NPR will do their best to shoot it down.
February 21, 2009 at 1:40 PM #351801sd_mattParticipantpeterb
Why do you think people overlooking Moldanado’s open primary ballot so much? I personally think it’s because it’s a long term solution and foresight not in the American vocabulary.
I’m not sure how much of a difference it will make but I’m willing to give it a try. If nothing else it will piss both sides off. I agree that the Dems and Repubs, and don’t forget AM radio and NPR will do their best to shoot it down.
February 21, 2009 at 1:40 PM #351835sd_mattParticipantpeterb
Why do you think people overlooking Moldanado’s open primary ballot so much? I personally think it’s because it’s a long term solution and foresight not in the American vocabulary.
I’m not sure how much of a difference it will make but I’m willing to give it a try. If nothing else it will piss both sides off. I agree that the Dems and Repubs, and don’t forget AM radio and NPR will do their best to shoot it down.
February 21, 2009 at 1:40 PM #351933sd_mattParticipantpeterb
Why do you think people overlooking Moldanado’s open primary ballot so much? I personally think it’s because it’s a long term solution and foresight not in the American vocabulary.
I’m not sure how much of a difference it will make but I’m willing to give it a try. If nothing else it will piss both sides off. I agree that the Dems and Repubs, and don’t forget AM radio and NPR will do their best to shoot it down.
February 21, 2009 at 3:35 PM #351456SD RealtorParticipantActually the proposed budget is not a solution at all. How does one call it a solution at all with an 11B shortfall that needs to be financed? What happens next year? Another 11B loan? Do we get a loan every single year?
Unfortunately like our local government then state is insolvent. As painful as it would be, yes the state does need to declare bankruptcy.
Of course we will not do that, and if we did do that, no the current residents of our penitentaries would not be left free in the streets. What would happen? I have no clue because it would be uncharted waters.
What we all realize but nobody wants to post is that it is not a sustainable situation. Talk about simple math… The only way to even get close to sustainability will be taxes in form and function like New York, more likely even higher. The state is growing in overall population but it is losing quality wage earners and businesses. This is a simple fact not speculation.
Eventually it will happen.
Numbers can only be manipulated so long.
February 21, 2009 at 3:35 PM #351770SD RealtorParticipantActually the proposed budget is not a solution at all. How does one call it a solution at all with an 11B shortfall that needs to be financed? What happens next year? Another 11B loan? Do we get a loan every single year?
Unfortunately like our local government then state is insolvent. As painful as it would be, yes the state does need to declare bankruptcy.
Of course we will not do that, and if we did do that, no the current residents of our penitentaries would not be left free in the streets. What would happen? I have no clue because it would be uncharted waters.
What we all realize but nobody wants to post is that it is not a sustainable situation. Talk about simple math… The only way to even get close to sustainability will be taxes in form and function like New York, more likely even higher. The state is growing in overall population but it is losing quality wage earners and businesses. This is a simple fact not speculation.
Eventually it will happen.
Numbers can only be manipulated so long.
February 21, 2009 at 3:35 PM #351896SD RealtorParticipantActually the proposed budget is not a solution at all. How does one call it a solution at all with an 11B shortfall that needs to be financed? What happens next year? Another 11B loan? Do we get a loan every single year?
Unfortunately like our local government then state is insolvent. As painful as it would be, yes the state does need to declare bankruptcy.
Of course we will not do that, and if we did do that, no the current residents of our penitentaries would not be left free in the streets. What would happen? I have no clue because it would be uncharted waters.
What we all realize but nobody wants to post is that it is not a sustainable situation. Talk about simple math… The only way to even get close to sustainability will be taxes in form and function like New York, more likely even higher. The state is growing in overall population but it is losing quality wage earners and businesses. This is a simple fact not speculation.
Eventually it will happen.
Numbers can only be manipulated so long.
February 21, 2009 at 3:35 PM #351929SD RealtorParticipantActually the proposed budget is not a solution at all. How does one call it a solution at all with an 11B shortfall that needs to be financed? What happens next year? Another 11B loan? Do we get a loan every single year?
Unfortunately like our local government then state is insolvent. As painful as it would be, yes the state does need to declare bankruptcy.
Of course we will not do that, and if we did do that, no the current residents of our penitentaries would not be left free in the streets. What would happen? I have no clue because it would be uncharted waters.
What we all realize but nobody wants to post is that it is not a sustainable situation. Talk about simple math… The only way to even get close to sustainability will be taxes in form and function like New York, more likely even higher. The state is growing in overall population but it is losing quality wage earners and businesses. This is a simple fact not speculation.
Eventually it will happen.
Numbers can only be manipulated so long.
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