CA State Budget Passed – State’s demise imminent

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[quote=Turtle69]There is nothing in the budget that gets to the root cause of the problem, which is that the State of California overspent when times were good and has no mechanism to rachet down spending when times are tough. Our legislature is at fault, both the Republicans and Democrats. The State simply is incapable of living within it’s means.
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No, the root of the problem is rich people and small business owners employing illegal immigrants are over-burdening our social services while also depriving them of revenue.

Hence my suggestion of leaving the state. Once the deadbeat tax-protester small business owners leave, so will the illegal labor.

[Djshakes]

[quote=kewp][quote=Turtle69]There is nothing in the budget that gets to the root cause of the problem, which is that the State of California overspent when times were good and has no mechanism to rachet down spending when times are tough. Our legislature is at fault, both the Republicans and Democrats. The State simply is incapable of living within it’s means.
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No, the root of the problem is rich people and small business owners employing illegal immigrants are over-burdening our social services while also depriving them of revenue.

Hence my suggestion of leaving the state. Once the deadbeat tax-protester small business owners leave, so will the illegal labor. [/quote]

You can pay the illegals all the money in the world. No matter what you pay, they will send it back to Mexico. They are a drain, but not because they are “underpaid”.

Bottom line, our government has doubled in size over the last 8 years. We have doubled the budget for education and our graduating stats have dropped. People are so afraid to cut schools. Well, if they aren’t producing with additional funds then they can surely produce the same results with the original budget amount before the increase. I was told that most schools have two sets of books for each student. One for classroom and one for at home. WTF? Serioulsy? Bottom line, you raise taxes, you cut consumer spending which according to all the experts is what drives our economy. Are you going to go buy a flat screen from Costco now or just order it online, out of state, for $300 or more less? Hell, offer half off sales tax for 2 months and I guarantee it will stimulate consumer spending.

I read a very good article that outlined why CA is going broke. People fall into two categories, Producers and Takers. The amount of takers in CA has surpassed Producers. Simple math here. We give out more in social programs than we take in from taxing the few that can be taked. We are a bleeding heart liberal state and we are going to drain ourselves of all our blood to help those that don’t really deserve it (takers). I will find the article and post it.

I love this state. I am a Producer. For the first time I am actually thinking about leaving. It is just a shame. We should be the wealthiest state based on what our geography offers alone!

Weren’t we in a surplus before Davis took office?

[Djshakes]

[quote=kewp][quote=Turtle69]There is nothing in the budget that gets to the root cause of the problem, which is that the State of California overspent when times were good and has no mechanism to rachet down spending when times are tough. Our legislature is at fault, both the Republicans and Democrats. The State simply is incapable of living within it’s means.
[/quote]

No, the root of the problem is rich people and small business owners employing illegal immigrants are over-burdening our social services while also depriving them of revenue.

Hence my suggestion of leaving the state. Once the deadbeat tax-protester small business owners leave, so will the illegal labor. [/quote]

You can pay the illegals all the money in the world. No matter what you pay, they will send it back to Mexico. They are a drain, but not because they are “underpaid”.

Bottom line, our government has doubled in size over the last 8 years. We have doubled the budget for education and our graduating stats have dropped. People are so afraid to cut schools. Well, if they aren’t producing with additional funds then they can surely produce the same results with the original budget amount before the increase. I was told that most schools have two sets of books for each student. One for classroom and one for at home. WTF? Serioulsy? Bottom line, you raise taxes, you cut consumer spending which according to all the experts is what drives our economy. Are you going to go buy a flat screen from Costco now or just order it online, out of state, for $300 or more less? Hell, offer half off sales tax for 2 months and I guarantee it will stimulate consumer spending.

I read a very good article that outlined why CA is going broke. People fall into two categories, Producers and Takers. The amount of takers in CA has surpassed Producers. Simple math here. We give out more in social programs than we take in from taxing the few that can be taked. We are a bleeding heart liberal state and we are going to drain ourselves of all our blood to help those that don’t really deserve it (takers). I will find the article and post it.

I love this state. I am a Producer. For the first time I am actually thinking about leaving. It is just a shame. We should be the wealthiest state based on what our geography offers alone!

Weren’t we in a surplus before Davis took office?

[Djshakes]

[quote=kewp][quote=Turtle69]There is nothing in the budget that gets to the root cause of the problem, which is that the State of California overspent when times were good and has no mechanism to rachet down spending when times are tough. Our legislature is at fault, both the Republicans and Democrats. The State simply is incapable of living within it’s means.
[/quote]

No, the root of the problem is rich people and small business owners employing illegal immigrants are over-burdening our social services while also depriving them of revenue.

Hence my suggestion of leaving the state. Once the deadbeat tax-protester small business owners leave, so will the illegal labor. [/quote]

You can pay the illegals all the money in the world. No matter what you pay, they will send it back to Mexico. They are a drain, but not because they are “underpaid”.

Bottom line, our government has doubled in size over the last 8 years. We have doubled the budget for education and our graduating stats have dropped. People are so afraid to cut schools. Well, if they aren’t producing with additional funds then they can surely produce the same results with the original budget amount before the increase. I was told that most schools have two sets of books for each student. One for classroom and one for at home. WTF? Serioulsy? Bottom line, you raise taxes, you cut consumer spending which according to all the experts is what drives our economy. Are you going to go buy a flat screen from Costco now or just order it online, out of state, for $300 or more less? Hell, offer half off sales tax for 2 months and I guarantee it will stimulate consumer spending.

I read a very good article that outlined why CA is going broke. People fall into two categories, Producers and Takers. The amount of takers in CA has surpassed Producers. Simple math here. We give out more in social programs than we take in from taxing the few that can be taked. We are a bleeding heart liberal state and we are going to drain ourselves of all our blood to help those that don’t really deserve it (takers). I will find the article and post it.

I love this state. I am a Producer. For the first time I am actually thinking about leaving. It is just a shame. We should be the wealthiest state based on what our geography offers alone!

Weren’t we in a surplus before Davis took office?

[Djshakes]

[quote=kewp][quote=Turtle69]There is nothing in the budget that gets to the root cause of the problem, which is that the State of California overspent when times were good and has no mechanism to rachet down spending when times are tough. Our legislature is at fault, both the Republicans and Democrats. The State simply is incapable of living within it’s means.
[/quote]

No, the root of the problem is rich people and small business owners employing illegal immigrants are over-burdening our social services while also depriving them of revenue.

Hence my suggestion of leaving the state. Once the deadbeat tax-protester small business owners leave, so will the illegal labor. [/quote]

You can pay the illegals all the money in the world. No matter what you pay, they will send it back to Mexico. They are a drain, but not because they are “underpaid”.

Bottom line, our government has doubled in size over the last 8 years. We have doubled the budget for education and our graduating stats have dropped. People are so afraid to cut schools. Well, if they aren’t producing with additional funds then they can surely produce the same results with the original budget amount before the increase. I was told that most schools have two sets of books for each student. One for classroom and one for at home. WTF? Serioulsy? Bottom line, you raise taxes, you cut consumer spending which according to all the experts is what drives our economy. Are you going to go buy a flat screen from Costco now or just order it online, out of state, for $300 or more less? Hell, offer half off sales tax for 2 months and I guarantee it will stimulate consumer spending.

I read a very good article that outlined why CA is going broke. People fall into two categories, Producers and Takers. The amount of takers in CA has surpassed Producers. Simple math here. We give out more in social programs than we take in from taxing the few that can be taked. We are a bleeding heart liberal state and we are going to drain ourselves of all our blood to help those that don’t really deserve it (takers). I will find the article and post it.

I love this state. I am a Producer. For the first time I am actually thinking about leaving. It is just a shame. We should be the wealthiest state based on what our geography offers alone!

Weren’t we in a surplus before Davis took office?

[Djshakes]

[quote=kewp][quote=Turtle69]There is nothing in the budget that gets to the root cause of the problem, which is that the State of California overspent when times were good and has no mechanism to rachet down spending when times are tough. Our legislature is at fault, both the Republicans and Democrats. The State simply is incapable of living within it’s means.
[/quote]

No, the root of the problem is rich people and small business owners employing illegal immigrants are over-burdening our social services while also depriving them of revenue.

Hence my suggestion of leaving the state. Once the deadbeat tax-protester small business owners leave, so will the illegal labor. [/quote]

You can pay the illegals all the money in the world. No matter what you pay, they will send it back to Mexico. They are a drain, but not because they are “underpaid”.

Bottom line, our government has doubled in size over the last 8 years. We have doubled the budget for education and our graduating stats have dropped. People are so afraid to cut schools. Well, if they aren’t producing with additional funds then they can surely produce the same results with the original budget amount before the increase. I was told that most schools have two sets of books for each student. One for classroom and one for at home. WTF? Serioulsy? Bottom line, you raise taxes, you cut consumer spending which according to all the experts is what drives our economy. Are you going to go buy a flat screen from Costco now or just order it online, out of state, for $300 or more less? Hell, offer half off sales tax for 2 months and I guarantee it will stimulate consumer spending.

I read a very good article that outlined why CA is going broke. People fall into two categories, Producers and Takers. The amount of takers in CA has surpassed Producers. Simple math here. We give out more in social programs than we take in from taxing the few that can be taked. We are a bleeding heart liberal state and we are going to drain ourselves of all our blood to help those that don’t really deserve it (takers). I will find the article and post it.

I love this state. I am a Producer. For the first time I am actually thinking about leaving. It is just a shame. We should be the wealthiest state based on what our geography offers alone!

Weren’t we in a surplus before Davis took office?

[JustLurking]

[quote=Djshakes] I was told that most schools have two sets of books for each student. One for classroom and one for at home. WTF? Serioulsy? [/quote]

I’m not sure who told you that, but it is definitely NOT true. The schools do not provide books for home. What a joke. In fact, most schools don’t have nearly enough books in the classroom and kids share the books. At my son’s school, parents pay for many of the classroom books. I personally bought 10 copies of a book my son’s teacher wanted for the class when I found out how many kids had to share one book. Of course, my son goes to an excellent school with one of the highest rankings in San Diego county – which means they get very little money from the state. All the state money goes to the low performing schools.

The problem with the state school budget is all of the administrative costs. The amount spent on “overhead” is obscene.

[JustLurking]

[quote=Djshakes] I was told that most schools have two sets of books for each student. One for classroom and one for at home. WTF? Serioulsy? [/quote]

I’m not sure who told you that, but it is definitely NOT true. The schools do not provide books for home. What a joke. In fact, most schools don’t have nearly enough books in the classroom and kids share the books. At my son’s school, parents pay for many of the classroom books. I personally bought 10 copies of a book my son’s teacher wanted for the class when I found out how many kids had to share one book. Of course, my son goes to an excellent school with one of the highest rankings in San Diego county – which means they get very little money from the state. All the state money goes to the low performing schools.

The problem with the state school budget is all of the administrative costs. The amount spent on “overhead” is obscene.

[JustLurking]

[quote=Djshakes] I was told that most schools have two sets of books for each student. One for classroom and one for at home. WTF? Serioulsy? [/quote]

I’m not sure who told you that, but it is definitely NOT true. The schools do not provide books for home. What a joke. In fact, most schools don’t have nearly enough books in the classroom and kids share the books. At my son’s school, parents pay for many of the classroom books. I personally bought 10 copies of a book my son’s teacher wanted for the class when I found out how many kids had to share one book. Of course, my son goes to an excellent school with one of the highest rankings in San Diego county – which means they get very little money from the state. All the state money goes to the low performing schools.

The problem with the state school budget is all of the administrative costs. The amount spent on “overhead” is obscene.

[JustLurking]

[quote=Djshakes] I was told that most schools have two sets of books for each student. One for classroom and one for at home. WTF? Serioulsy? [/quote]

I’m not sure who told you that, but it is definitely NOT true. The schools do not provide books for home. What a joke. In fact, most schools don’t have nearly enough books in the classroom and kids share the books. At my son’s school, parents pay for many of the classroom books. I personally bought 10 copies of a book my son’s teacher wanted for the class when I found out how many kids had to share one book. Of course, my son goes to an excellent school with one of the highest rankings in San Diego county – which means they get very little money from the state. All the state money goes to the low performing schools.

The problem with the state school budget is all of the administrative costs. The amount spent on “overhead” is obscene.

[JustLurking]

[quote=Djshakes] I was told that most schools have two sets of books for each student. One for classroom and one for at home. WTF? Serioulsy? [/quote]

I’m not sure who told you that, but it is definitely NOT true. The schools do not provide books for home. What a joke. In fact, most schools don’t have nearly enough books in the classroom and kids share the books. At my son’s school, parents pay for many of the classroom books. I personally bought 10 copies of a book my son’s teacher wanted for the class when I found out how many kids had to share one book. Of course, my son goes to an excellent school with one of the highest rankings in San Diego county – which means they get very little money from the state. All the state money goes to the low performing schools.

The problem with the state school budget is all of the administrative costs. The amount spent on “overhead” is obscene.

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Hey matt, you are right about voting 3rd party.

[gandalf]

Hey matt, you are right about voting 3rd party.

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Hey matt, you are right about voting 3rd party.

[gandalf]

Hey matt, you are right about voting 3rd party.

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