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September 3, 2007 at 11:12 AM #10152September 3, 2007 at 11:52 AM #83129rseiserParticipant
That’s a very fine article with a pretty good summary I thought. I know it has already been discussed on other threads but here are my two cents.
Thanks to Bush’s “homeowner society”, the 70% owning homes will probably be for a bailout and 30% will be against. Maybe some who own their houses free and clear and have some cash in the bank might be against it too. But still, the majority probably rules.
The second thing is that all this might not stop housing prices from dropping. Most of these bailouts won’t encourage a new marginal buyer, because his “new” loan might not be that favorable with all the skeptical lenders and MBS buyers. And of course the “20%/year appreciation” crowd is now seriously silenced.
So if housing prices do indeed fall further, why would people underwater even want to be bailed out. If some of the people have a hard time affording their mortgage, a $200K negative equity will surely convince them to walk and rent.
So any bailout would have to be so massive (10% drop of $30 trillion real-estate market = $3 trillion) that this is going to be impossible to not have other negative consequences.
September 3, 2007 at 1:36 PM #83147bsrsharmaParticipantrseiser – you can rest assured that there won't be any government bailout. You have the reason in your own post – $3 trillion. The treasury is so completely broke that any government help will be all hat and no cattle.
September 3, 2007 at 1:57 PM #83149kewpParticipantHow about creating a special 0% fixed loan product for first time buyers? Backed by the federal reserve?
Sure, it would result in an early bottom and some permanent housing inflation, but it stands to keep the most people happy.
September 3, 2007 at 2:07 PM #83152bsrsharmaParticipantkewp – FED may start accepting sub-prime junk for long term REPOs. Helicopter Ben may be reading your thoughts.
September 3, 2007 at 3:46 PM #83175TheBreezeParticipantHopefully Bush won’t let the bailout get too big:
http://thehill.com/business–lobby/major-bailout-is-unlikely-on-sub-prime-mortgages-2007-09-04.html
He’s not good for much else, but maybe he can help keep any bailout to a small size.
September 3, 2007 at 3:53 PM #83179patientlywaitingParticipantDidn’t we lecture Brazil, Argentina, Mexico even Japan to let the free markets work? Didn’t we claim that the reason the American economy is so great is that resources are automatically allocated to the best stewarts of capital?
September 3, 2007 at 8:18 PM #83221kewpParticipantDidn’t we claim that the reason the American economy is so great is that resources are automatically allocated to the best stewarts of capital?
Haha, you mean the Chinese?
Anyways, on the bailout front I just read that Dubya is pushing for abolishing taxation on debt forgiveness as income.
I don’t get this. From my perspective its only going to push the market down faster and deprive the government of some much needed income. It’s also removing the only real punishment for the speculators.
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