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[quote=AN][quote=CDMA ENG]AN… Your speed is not capped btw… In a one bar condition your device changes its modulation scheme to a more slower but more robust format thus slowing the device down. DL speeds all depend on the amount of Interfence, Signal Strength, Load at the BTS, and finally and the lynch pin, backhaul size. Verizon is not capping. BTW all these amazing speeds with start to go down when the systems start loading up with 4G devices.
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I have a friend who works at Novatel and while they’re testing their MiFi hotspot for Verizon LTE, they say they can consistently get 25Mb down and 10Mb up. So, I think they are capping at 15Mb down and 5Mb. I’m getting the same speed at 1 bar and 5 bars.[/quote]

So here is the thing about capping bandwidth. While this works just find for landline networks it has negative affect in a RF enviroment. When a device makes a request for data it turns its radio on. This causes interference to the system and other handset in the local area. If you can serve the mobile as quickly possible and get the device off the air interface it improves conditions (and hence through-puts)of all other devices so it makes makes no sense to cap the device and have it waiting around for data. We figured this one out a while ago that throttling ppl makes little since.

Of course there could be something else going on like the amount of bandwidth at your particular site. If it is a low usage site they may only have a 20 Meg pipe or something like that… Not all sites get preimum bandwith service to them.

Also I know that netflix is coming out with the app for Droid but they have not committed to a
date yet and this makes panda very sad…

CE

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[quote=AN][quote=SmellsFeeshy]So if I get either the Infuse 4G or Atrix on AT&T will those support LTE once AT&T rolls it out? Or are they only capable of HSPDA?[/quote]
LTE is an entirely different network. So, the short answer is no. What I’ve read is that, even LTE phones between VZW and AT&T are not compatible due to the different frequencies that the 2 LTE network operate at.[/quote]

Uhm… That is not quite right either about the LTE.. ATT and VZW both bought 700 MHz spectrum and the device itself is tunable to either including the differences in Bandwidth. LTE comes in 1.4, 3, 5, 10, 15, and 20 MHz versions.

ATT also owns 2100 MHz bands…

But Yeah if you buy a HSPDA you will need to buy one for going to LTE…

CE

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[quote=AN][quote=SmellsFeeshy]So if I get either the Infuse 4G or Atrix on AT&T will those support LTE once AT&T rolls it out? Or are they only capable of HSPDA?[/quote]
LTE is an entirely different network. So, the short answer is no. What I’ve read is that, even LTE phones between VZW and AT&T are not compatible due to the different frequencies that the 2 LTE network operate at.[/quote]

Uhm… That is not quite right either about the LTE.. ATT and VZW both bought 700 MHz spectrum and the device itself is tunable to either including the differences in Bandwidth. LTE comes in 1.4, 3, 5, 10, 15, and 20 MHz versions.

ATT also owns 2100 MHz bands…

But Yeah if you buy a HSPDA you will need to buy one for going to LTE…

CE

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[quote=AN][quote=SmellsFeeshy]So if I get either the Infuse 4G or Atrix on AT&T will those support LTE once AT&T rolls it out? Or are they only capable of HSPDA?[/quote]
LTE is an entirely different network. So, the short answer is no. What I’ve read is that, even LTE phones between VZW and AT&T are not compatible due to the different frequencies that the 2 LTE network operate at.[/quote]

Uhm… That is not quite right either about the LTE.. ATT and VZW both bought 700 MHz spectrum and the device itself is tunable to either including the differences in Bandwidth. LTE comes in 1.4, 3, 5, 10, 15, and 20 MHz versions.

ATT also owns 2100 MHz bands…

But Yeah if you buy a HSPDA you will need to buy one for going to LTE…

CE

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[quote=AN][quote=SmellsFeeshy]So if I get either the Infuse 4G or Atrix on AT&T will those support LTE once AT&T rolls it out? Or are they only capable of HSPDA?[/quote]
LTE is an entirely different network. So, the short answer is no. What I’ve read is that, even LTE phones between VZW and AT&T are not compatible due to the different frequencies that the 2 LTE network operate at.[/quote]

Uhm… That is not quite right either about the LTE.. ATT and VZW both bought 700 MHz spectrum and the device itself is tunable to either including the differences in Bandwidth. LTE comes in 1.4, 3, 5, 10, 15, and 20 MHz versions.

ATT also owns 2100 MHz bands…

But Yeah if you buy a HSPDA you will need to buy one for going to LTE…

CE

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[quote=AN][quote=SmellsFeeshy]So if I get either the Infuse 4G or Atrix on AT&T will those support LTE once AT&T rolls it out? Or are they only capable of HSPDA?[/quote]
LTE is an entirely different network. So, the short answer is no. What I’ve read is that, even LTE phones between VZW and AT&T are not compatible due to the different frequencies that the 2 LTE network operate at.[/quote]

Uhm… That is not quite right either about the LTE.. ATT and VZW both bought 700 MHz spectrum and the device itself is tunable to either including the differences in Bandwidth. LTE comes in 1.4, 3, 5, 10, 15, and 20 MHz versions.

ATT also owns 2100 MHz bands…

But Yeah if you buy a HSPDA you will need to buy one for going to LTE…

CE

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[quote=CDMA ENG]Uhm… That is not quite right either about the LTE.. ATT and VZW both bought 700 MHz spectrum and the device itself is tunable to either including the differences in Bandwidth. LTE comes in 1.4, 3, 5, 10, 15, and 20 MHz versions.

ATT also owns 2100 MHz bands…

But Yeah if you buy a HSPDA you will need to buy one for going to LTE…

CE[/quote]
Either you know something these guys don’t, or what you’re saying is not correct: http://blog.connectedplanetonline.com/unfiltered/2011/07/18/verizon-att-lte-4g-networks-have-no-plans-to-play-nice/ Here’s another with a quote from VZW’s spoke person: http://www.bgr.com/2011/07/15/verizon-says-its-4g-phones-wont-be-compatible-with-atts-lte-network/

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[quote=CDMA ENG]Uhm… That is not quite right either about the LTE.. ATT and VZW both bought 700 MHz spectrum and the device itself is tunable to either including the differences in Bandwidth. LTE comes in 1.4, 3, 5, 10, 15, and 20 MHz versions.

ATT also owns 2100 MHz bands…

But Yeah if you buy a HSPDA you will need to buy one for going to LTE…

CE[/quote]
Either you know something these guys don’t, or what you’re saying is not correct: http://blog.connectedplanetonline.com/unfiltered/2011/07/18/verizon-att-lte-4g-networks-have-no-plans-to-play-nice/ Here’s another with a quote from VZW’s spoke person: http://www.bgr.com/2011/07/15/verizon-says-its-4g-phones-wont-be-compatible-with-atts-lte-network/

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[quote=CDMA ENG]Uhm… That is not quite right either about the LTE.. ATT and VZW both bought 700 MHz spectrum and the device itself is tunable to either including the differences in Bandwidth. LTE comes in 1.4, 3, 5, 10, 15, and 20 MHz versions.

ATT also owns 2100 MHz bands…

But Yeah if you buy a HSPDA you will need to buy one for going to LTE…

CE[/quote]
Either you know something these guys don’t, or what you’re saying is not correct: http://blog.connectedplanetonline.com/unfiltered/2011/07/18/verizon-att-lte-4g-networks-have-no-plans-to-play-nice/ Here’s another with a quote from VZW’s spoke person: http://www.bgr.com/2011/07/15/verizon-says-its-4g-phones-wont-be-compatible-with-atts-lte-network/

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[quote=CDMA ENG]Uhm… That is not quite right either about the LTE.. ATT and VZW both bought 700 MHz spectrum and the device itself is tunable to either including the differences in Bandwidth. LTE comes in 1.4, 3, 5, 10, 15, and 20 MHz versions.

ATT also owns 2100 MHz bands…

But Yeah if you buy a HSPDA you will need to buy one for going to LTE…

CE[/quote]
Either you know something these guys don’t, or what you’re saying is not correct: http://blog.connectedplanetonline.com/unfiltered/2011/07/18/verizon-att-lte-4g-networks-have-no-plans-to-play-nice/ Here’s another with a quote from VZW’s spoke person: http://www.bgr.com/2011/07/15/verizon-says-its-4g-phones-wont-be-compatible-with-atts-lte-network/

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[quote=CDMA ENG]Uhm… That is not quite right either about the LTE.. ATT and VZW both bought 700 MHz spectrum and the device itself is tunable to either including the differences in Bandwidth. LTE comes in 1.4, 3, 5, 10, 15, and 20 MHz versions.

ATT also owns 2100 MHz bands…

But Yeah if you buy a HSPDA you will need to buy one for going to LTE…

CE[/quote]
Either you know something these guys don’t, or what you’re saying is not correct: http://blog.connectedplanetonline.com/unfiltered/2011/07/18/verizon-att-lte-4g-networks-have-no-plans-to-play-nice/ Here’s another with a quote from VZW’s spoke person: http://www.bgr.com/2011/07/15/verizon-says-its-4g-phones-wont-be-compatible-with-atts-lte-network/

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Using Moto Droid 1 for 1.5yrs. Excellent when released but Android 2.2 update causes freezes that is duplicated with many other users and similar phones. Newest phones may have fast processor to handle 2.2-2.3. VWZ acknowledged problem but their only solution was early upgrade. Should have been good offer but all the newer phone have horrible pixel quality – the screen got bigger but kept similar resolution.

The Thunderbolt screen is not great for text. If you used Moto Droid 1,2 or IPhone for reading articles all these “great” new phone displays are woefully inadequate. Even the Moto Droid 3 which is supposed to have qHD display uses a pentile (?) screen which makes text appear pixelated. I hope the Bionic is not going to have same screen otherwise I may sell out for IP5. Apple must have so much supply chain clout that it buys up all the good screens in the world and forces carriers to price the phone at $199 on contract or $450 discount to retail, causing huge losses for carriers in first year. This is why we should just sell our non-producing assets such as houses and buy APPL stock!

As for the carriers make sure where you need to use the phone the signal is sufficient. I noticed that VZW had weak signal in part of Point Loma and Coronado which was confirmed by a few friends. I asked VZW and they of course denied problem but after I gave them a couple random address the network team acknowledged month later that the signal is weak and they would remedy problem. Erect new towers or cancel my contract? You guessed it, cancel my contract! I had looked on some antenna map and it showed no VZW antennas in area and half dozen Sprint antennas. Difficult to believe in two expensive areas of town. Asked if LTE would be better, but VZW downplayed promise of longer range from current antennas.

Yes I know I should get with the program and only use phone to play Angry Birds, watch Netflix or sing along to YouTube videos.

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Using Moto Droid 1 for 1.5yrs. Excellent when released but Android 2.2 update causes freezes that is duplicated with many other users and similar phones. Newest phones may have fast processor to handle 2.2-2.3. VWZ acknowledged problem but their only solution was early upgrade. Should have been good offer but all the newer phone have horrible pixel quality – the screen got bigger but kept similar resolution.

The Thunderbolt screen is not great for text. If you used Moto Droid 1,2 or IPhone for reading articles all these “great” new phone displays are woefully inadequate. Even the Moto Droid 3 which is supposed to have qHD display uses a pentile (?) screen which makes text appear pixelated. I hope the Bionic is not going to have same screen otherwise I may sell out for IP5. Apple must have so much supply chain clout that it buys up all the good screens in the world and forces carriers to price the phone at $199 on contract or $450 discount to retail, causing huge losses for carriers in first year. This is why we should just sell our non-producing assets such as houses and buy APPL stock!

As for the carriers make sure where you need to use the phone the signal is sufficient. I noticed that VZW had weak signal in part of Point Loma and Coronado which was confirmed by a few friends. I asked VZW and they of course denied problem but after I gave them a couple random address the network team acknowledged month later that the signal is weak and they would remedy problem. Erect new towers or cancel my contract? You guessed it, cancel my contract! I had looked on some antenna map and it showed no VZW antennas in area and half dozen Sprint antennas. Difficult to believe in two expensive areas of town. Asked if LTE would be better, but VZW downplayed promise of longer range from current antennas.

Yes I know I should get with the program and only use phone to play Angry Birds, watch Netflix or sing along to YouTube videos.

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Using Moto Droid 1 for 1.5yrs. Excellent when released but Android 2.2 update causes freezes that is duplicated with many other users and similar phones. Newest phones may have fast processor to handle 2.2-2.3. VWZ acknowledged problem but their only solution was early upgrade. Should have been good offer but all the newer phone have horrible pixel quality – the screen got bigger but kept similar resolution.

The Thunderbolt screen is not great for text. If you used Moto Droid 1,2 or IPhone for reading articles all these “great” new phone displays are woefully inadequate. Even the Moto Droid 3 which is supposed to have qHD display uses a pentile (?) screen which makes text appear pixelated. I hope the Bionic is not going to have same screen otherwise I may sell out for IP5. Apple must have so much supply chain clout that it buys up all the good screens in the world and forces carriers to price the phone at $199 on contract or $450 discount to retail, causing huge losses for carriers in first year. This is why we should just sell our non-producing assets such as houses and buy APPL stock!

As for the carriers make sure where you need to use the phone the signal is sufficient. I noticed that VZW had weak signal in part of Point Loma and Coronado which was confirmed by a few friends. I asked VZW and they of course denied problem but after I gave them a couple random address the network team acknowledged month later that the signal is weak and they would remedy problem. Erect new towers or cancel my contract? You guessed it, cancel my contract! I had looked on some antenna map and it showed no VZW antennas in area and half dozen Sprint antennas. Difficult to believe in two expensive areas of town. Asked if LTE would be better, but VZW downplayed promise of longer range from current antennas.

Yes I know I should get with the program and only use phone to play Angry Birds, watch Netflix or sing along to YouTube videos.

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Using Moto Droid 1 for 1.5yrs. Excellent when released but Android 2.2 update causes freezes that is duplicated with many other users and similar phones. Newest phones may have fast processor to handle 2.2-2.3. VWZ acknowledged problem but their only solution was early upgrade. Should have been good offer but all the newer phone have horrible pixel quality – the screen got bigger but kept similar resolution.

The Thunderbolt screen is not great for text. If you used Moto Droid 1,2 or IPhone for reading articles all these “great” new phone displays are woefully inadequate. Even the Moto Droid 3 which is supposed to have qHD display uses a pentile (?) screen which makes text appear pixelated. I hope the Bionic is not going to have same screen otherwise I may sell out for IP5. Apple must have so much supply chain clout that it buys up all the good screens in the world and forces carriers to price the phone at $199 on contract or $450 discount to retail, causing huge losses for carriers in first year. This is why we should just sell our non-producing assets such as houses and buy APPL stock!

As for the carriers make sure where you need to use the phone the signal is sufficient. I noticed that VZW had weak signal in part of Point Loma and Coronado which was confirmed by a few friends. I asked VZW and they of course denied problem but after I gave them a couple random address the network team acknowledged month later that the signal is weak and they would remedy problem. Erect new towers or cancel my contract? You guessed it, cancel my contract! I had looked on some antenna map and it showed no VZW antennas in area and half dozen Sprint antennas. Difficult to believe in two expensive areas of town. Asked if LTE would be better, but VZW downplayed promise of longer range from current antennas.

Yes I know I should get with the program and only use phone to play Angry Birds, watch Netflix or sing along to YouTube videos.

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