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March 15, 2010 at 1:31 PM #526974March 15, 2010 at 2:45 PM #526072briansd1Guest
[quote=SK in CV] I had a Kia Sodona with a less dangerous, though significant problem that also couldn’t be duplicated. Five or six times it was into the shop to fix an intermittently functioning speedometer, and since it couldn’t be duplicated Kia took the position that there was no problem with the car.[/quote]
Big difference between a speedometer not working properly and a car driving itself and the driver not being able to control it.
There’s always a way to disable the car by putting it in neutral and turning off the engine.
The driver has the responsibility to control his vehicle regardless of manufacturer defects.
March 15, 2010 at 2:45 PM #526204briansd1Guest[quote=SK in CV] I had a Kia Sodona with a less dangerous, though significant problem that also couldn’t be duplicated. Five or six times it was into the shop to fix an intermittently functioning speedometer, and since it couldn’t be duplicated Kia took the position that there was no problem with the car.[/quote]
Big difference between a speedometer not working properly and a car driving itself and the driver not being able to control it.
There’s always a way to disable the car by putting it in neutral and turning off the engine.
The driver has the responsibility to control his vehicle regardless of manufacturer defects.
March 15, 2010 at 2:45 PM #526650briansd1Guest[quote=SK in CV] I had a Kia Sodona with a less dangerous, though significant problem that also couldn’t be duplicated. Five or six times it was into the shop to fix an intermittently functioning speedometer, and since it couldn’t be duplicated Kia took the position that there was no problem with the car.[/quote]
Big difference between a speedometer not working properly and a car driving itself and the driver not being able to control it.
There’s always a way to disable the car by putting it in neutral and turning off the engine.
The driver has the responsibility to control his vehicle regardless of manufacturer defects.
March 15, 2010 at 2:45 PM #526747briansd1Guest[quote=SK in CV] I had a Kia Sodona with a less dangerous, though significant problem that also couldn’t be duplicated. Five or six times it was into the shop to fix an intermittently functioning speedometer, and since it couldn’t be duplicated Kia took the position that there was no problem with the car.[/quote]
Big difference between a speedometer not working properly and a car driving itself and the driver not being able to control it.
There’s always a way to disable the car by putting it in neutral and turning off the engine.
The driver has the responsibility to control his vehicle regardless of manufacturer defects.
March 15, 2010 at 2:45 PM #527005briansd1Guest[quote=SK in CV] I had a Kia Sodona with a less dangerous, though significant problem that also couldn’t be duplicated. Five or six times it was into the shop to fix an intermittently functioning speedometer, and since it couldn’t be duplicated Kia took the position that there was no problem with the car.[/quote]
Big difference between a speedometer not working properly and a car driving itself and the driver not being able to control it.
There’s always a way to disable the car by putting it in neutral and turning off the engine.
The driver has the responsibility to control his vehicle regardless of manufacturer defects.
March 15, 2010 at 3:17 PM #526082ucodegenParticipantMore on the Prius issue:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100315/ap_on_bi_ge/us_runaway_prius
I like paragraph 7,8. It looks like he may have been trying to make it look like there is a problem.
A self-diagnostic system did show evidence of repeated applications of the accelerator and brake pedals, Toyota said.
“The data from the diagnostics test indicated that the accelerator and the brake had been rapidly pressed, alternately back and forth, 250 times,” Mike Michels, vice president of corporate communications for Toyota Motor Sales USA, told a press conference.
I took the liberty of highlighting a critical word. Looks like the cars ‘computer’ told on him.
The Prius gets good gas mileage because it uses regenerative braking, which is quite different than braking on a normal car. With regenerative braking, the electric motor segment that is attached to the gas engine effectively switches polarity, trying to drive the shaft in the opposite direction. To prevent binding, you need to reduce power on the gas engine (otherwise the gas engine will try to drive the shaft forwards and the electric motor will try to drive it backwards – resulting in not much movement and a moderate amount of gas consumption)
More info and partially OT:
The strength of the regenerative braking is determined by the strength of the field coil within the electric motor segment. Current generated by forcing the motor backwards is dumped into the lithium ion batteries for re-use when accelerating later. This is why hybrids tend to get better city gas mileage than highway. Traditional cars get better highway mileage than city.March 15, 2010 at 3:17 PM #526214ucodegenParticipantMore on the Prius issue:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100315/ap_on_bi_ge/us_runaway_prius
I like paragraph 7,8. It looks like he may have been trying to make it look like there is a problem.
A self-diagnostic system did show evidence of repeated applications of the accelerator and brake pedals, Toyota said.
“The data from the diagnostics test indicated that the accelerator and the brake had been rapidly pressed, alternately back and forth, 250 times,” Mike Michels, vice president of corporate communications for Toyota Motor Sales USA, told a press conference.
I took the liberty of highlighting a critical word. Looks like the cars ‘computer’ told on him.
The Prius gets good gas mileage because it uses regenerative braking, which is quite different than braking on a normal car. With regenerative braking, the electric motor segment that is attached to the gas engine effectively switches polarity, trying to drive the shaft in the opposite direction. To prevent binding, you need to reduce power on the gas engine (otherwise the gas engine will try to drive the shaft forwards and the electric motor will try to drive it backwards – resulting in not much movement and a moderate amount of gas consumption)
More info and partially OT:
The strength of the regenerative braking is determined by the strength of the field coil within the electric motor segment. Current generated by forcing the motor backwards is dumped into the lithium ion batteries for re-use when accelerating later. This is why hybrids tend to get better city gas mileage than highway. Traditional cars get better highway mileage than city.March 15, 2010 at 3:17 PM #526660ucodegenParticipantMore on the Prius issue:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100315/ap_on_bi_ge/us_runaway_prius
I like paragraph 7,8. It looks like he may have been trying to make it look like there is a problem.
A self-diagnostic system did show evidence of repeated applications of the accelerator and brake pedals, Toyota said.
“The data from the diagnostics test indicated that the accelerator and the brake had been rapidly pressed, alternately back and forth, 250 times,” Mike Michels, vice president of corporate communications for Toyota Motor Sales USA, told a press conference.
I took the liberty of highlighting a critical word. Looks like the cars ‘computer’ told on him.
The Prius gets good gas mileage because it uses regenerative braking, which is quite different than braking on a normal car. With regenerative braking, the electric motor segment that is attached to the gas engine effectively switches polarity, trying to drive the shaft in the opposite direction. To prevent binding, you need to reduce power on the gas engine (otherwise the gas engine will try to drive the shaft forwards and the electric motor will try to drive it backwards – resulting in not much movement and a moderate amount of gas consumption)
More info and partially OT:
The strength of the regenerative braking is determined by the strength of the field coil within the electric motor segment. Current generated by forcing the motor backwards is dumped into the lithium ion batteries for re-use when accelerating later. This is why hybrids tend to get better city gas mileage than highway. Traditional cars get better highway mileage than city.March 15, 2010 at 3:17 PM #526757ucodegenParticipantMore on the Prius issue:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100315/ap_on_bi_ge/us_runaway_prius
I like paragraph 7,8. It looks like he may have been trying to make it look like there is a problem.
A self-diagnostic system did show evidence of repeated applications of the accelerator and brake pedals, Toyota said.
“The data from the diagnostics test indicated that the accelerator and the brake had been rapidly pressed, alternately back and forth, 250 times,” Mike Michels, vice president of corporate communications for Toyota Motor Sales USA, told a press conference.
I took the liberty of highlighting a critical word. Looks like the cars ‘computer’ told on him.
The Prius gets good gas mileage because it uses regenerative braking, which is quite different than braking on a normal car. With regenerative braking, the electric motor segment that is attached to the gas engine effectively switches polarity, trying to drive the shaft in the opposite direction. To prevent binding, you need to reduce power on the gas engine (otherwise the gas engine will try to drive the shaft forwards and the electric motor will try to drive it backwards – resulting in not much movement and a moderate amount of gas consumption)
More info and partially OT:
The strength of the regenerative braking is determined by the strength of the field coil within the electric motor segment. Current generated by forcing the motor backwards is dumped into the lithium ion batteries for re-use when accelerating later. This is why hybrids tend to get better city gas mileage than highway. Traditional cars get better highway mileage than city.March 15, 2010 at 3:17 PM #527015ucodegenParticipantMore on the Prius issue:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100315/ap_on_bi_ge/us_runaway_prius
I like paragraph 7,8. It looks like he may have been trying to make it look like there is a problem.
A self-diagnostic system did show evidence of repeated applications of the accelerator and brake pedals, Toyota said.
“The data from the diagnostics test indicated that the accelerator and the brake had been rapidly pressed, alternately back and forth, 250 times,” Mike Michels, vice president of corporate communications for Toyota Motor Sales USA, told a press conference.
I took the liberty of highlighting a critical word. Looks like the cars ‘computer’ told on him.
The Prius gets good gas mileage because it uses regenerative braking, which is quite different than braking on a normal car. With regenerative braking, the electric motor segment that is attached to the gas engine effectively switches polarity, trying to drive the shaft in the opposite direction. To prevent binding, you need to reduce power on the gas engine (otherwise the gas engine will try to drive the shaft forwards and the electric motor will try to drive it backwards – resulting in not much movement and a moderate amount of gas consumption)
More info and partially OT:
The strength of the regenerative braking is determined by the strength of the field coil within the electric motor segment. Current generated by forcing the motor backwards is dumped into the lithium ion batteries for re-use when accelerating later. This is why hybrids tend to get better city gas mileage than highway. Traditional cars get better highway mileage than city.March 15, 2010 at 4:04 PM #526112AKParticipantYeah it doesn’t look very good for Mr. Sikes.
But it’s also interesting that Toyota suddenly displays this amazing ability to retrieve information from the engine computer when needed to cover its corporate behind … whereas similar data hasn’t been available in other alleged cases of sudden acceleration.
March 15, 2010 at 4:04 PM #526244AKParticipantYeah it doesn’t look very good for Mr. Sikes.
But it’s also interesting that Toyota suddenly displays this amazing ability to retrieve information from the engine computer when needed to cover its corporate behind … whereas similar data hasn’t been available in other alleged cases of sudden acceleration.
March 15, 2010 at 4:04 PM #526690AKParticipantYeah it doesn’t look very good for Mr. Sikes.
But it’s also interesting that Toyota suddenly displays this amazing ability to retrieve information from the engine computer when needed to cover its corporate behind … whereas similar data hasn’t been available in other alleged cases of sudden acceleration.
March 15, 2010 at 4:04 PM #526787AKParticipantYeah it doesn’t look very good for Mr. Sikes.
But it’s also interesting that Toyota suddenly displays this amazing ability to retrieve information from the engine computer when needed to cover its corporate behind … whereas similar data hasn’t been available in other alleged cases of sudden acceleration.
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