The Donald Trump, Illegal Alien, Foreigner, Immigrant Bitch and Moan Thread

[bearishgurl]

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Only the first 9 stops of the blue line (San Ysidro being the first stop) would be used to embark/disembark by border-crossing students attending public schools in the four districts listed in my most recent post.

See: https://www.transit.wiki/San_Diego_Trolley_Blue_Line

[bearishgurl]

[quote=spdrun]By my revised estimate: 2400 students on the trolleys coming from the southernmost station near the border.

“Thousands” crossing by car driven by their parents. Say 3000?

“A thousand” by car driven by students themselves.

We’re up to 6400 students, or 3.2% of entire student population. If it’s concentrated in certain districts, it doesn’t seem to be a county-wide issue, and the total number of students is relatively small compared to county population.[/quote]The cars driven by parents often have 3-4 students in each vehicle (not necessarily related but were driven into the US together). The “regular” cars/vans that used to park on my street for years (where the adult would get out, often carrying a baby or pushing a stroller) usually had 3-6 student-kids with her whom she walked thru the back gate of the elementary school every morning. Parents/relatives do not make their onerous trek into the US early in the morning without taking as many kids as possible with them. We had four “regular” vehicles every school year and sometimes six with Baja plates which would be parked in the same place every school morning to walk kids onto the school grounds and pick them up in the afternoon (total of 40-50 minutes of parking per day). This went on the entire time I lived there (12 years). High school kids also drive their relatives and neighbors over the border and to school (even if it is a different school, due to age of the passengers).

The relevant Districts that have the vast majority of these border crossing students enrolled are:

South Bay Union School District (K-6): 6000 (approx)
Chula Vista Elementary School District (K-6): 29,300
Sweetwater Union High School District (7-12): 42,000
National School District (K-6): 3000 (approx)

That’s a total of approximately 80,300 students. I would take an educated guess that over 90% of the border crossing students into SD County every morning attend public school in one of the above districts. The other 10% are spread out in public schools elsewhere in the county which are closer to a parent’s workplace.

I did not include CUSD (Coronado) because they are much stricter about granting interdistrict transfers and enrollment/residency issues over there. Therefore, I feel it is unlikely that more than a handful (if any) daily “border crossing students” were able to pass thru their “vetting system.”

[bearishgurl]

Ha ha, I ran across this 9-year old article earlier from little, hot, dusty Calexico (been there a few times, lol). The school district there has employed someone to take photos of students crossing the border to attend public school there. And knock on doors of “guardians” of students suspected of living in MX. Hilarious!

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/22454322/ns/us_news-education/t/camera-keeps-out-students-across-border/#.V3C20BLvabY

It’s border crossing only had two gates last time I was there!

Not all districts on board
Jesus Gandara, superintendent of the Sweetwater district, with 44,000 students along San Diego’s border with Mexico, said tracking children at the border goes too far. “If you do that, you’re playing immigration agent,” he said.

Notice how Gandara didn’t seem too concerned. And neither did his predecessor OR successor (formerly the CVESD superintendent). They’re not “concerned” because they don’t really want to know. If SUHSD suddenly should lose 10K+ of their (non-resident) students, they would have to do massive layoffs. That would certainly put a dent in the super’s “umbrella of influence.” It’s very simple. Less students = less employees = smaller organization = his job won’t command the salary/eventual pension it currently does.

[SK in CV]

So still no? Still nothing more than stories? No evidence? No data to support the 25% claim?

[FlyerInHi]

Back to Brexit. So the conservative leadership offered a choice they didn’t support. Now that their pitchfork peasants have turned against them, what are they to do?

The conservative politics of division are resulting in economics of destruction. So much for good economic and wealth management.

[livinincali]

[quote=FlyerInHi]Back to Brexit. So the conservative leadership offered a choice they didn’t support. Now that their pitchfork peasants have turned against them, what are they to do?

The conservative politics of division are resulting in economics of destruction. So much for good economic and wealth management.[/quote]

In Cameron’s case resign. Leave won by about 1 million votes. It seems difficult to ignore the will of the people when you already put it up for a vote. I don’t see why England can’t negotiate favorable trade deals similar to what Switzerland enjoys with the EU. If you’re an English taxpayer why do you want Brussels deciding that your tax dollars should be used to support Greece or whatever else EU problem arises. In California we don’t want Texas deciding our environmental policies.

Essentially the EU politicians in Brussels over played their power over sovereign nations in their migrant policies. It backfired on them. In the western world there’s a relatively low demand for unskilled laborers. There’s little reason to invite low skilled laborers into you country other than compassion. Economically it’s stupid because you have to divert resources from your own citizens to foreign immigrants.

[spdrun]

Total UK contributions to EU = something like $180 per taxpayer per year, USD equivalent at 1.4. The UK had control over its own borders — it was under no obligation to invite immigrants from outside the EU. In fact, under EU rules, it could send them back from whence they initially entered the EU.

As far as skill sets, Schengen simply meant that all citizens of EU countries could work and study where it best suited them in 28 countries. It is/was a huge boon to 500 million+ human beings.

People need to think beyond nationalism when thinking about such regional blocs. Don’t think: “those damn immigrants will steal my jerb.” Think: “wow. This is amazing. I now have access to many other countries, not just my own back yard.”

I’d love if the US became part of such a regional bloc with some countries to the north and south 😉

[bearishgurl]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=spdrun]By my revised estimate: 2400 students on the trolleys coming from the southernmost station near the border.

“Thousands” crossing by car driven by their parents. Say 3000?

“A thousand” by car driven by students themselves.

We’re up to 6400 students, or 3.2% of entire student population. If it’s concentrated in certain districts, it doesn’t seem to be a county-wide issue, and the total number of students is relatively small compared to county population.[/quote]The cars driven by parents often have 3-4 students in each vehicle (not necessarily related but were driven into the US together). The “regular” cars/vans that used to park on my street for years (where the adult would get out, often carrying a baby or pushing a stroller) usually had 3-6 student-kids with her whom she walked thru the back gate of the elementary school every morning. Parents/relatives do not make their onerous trek into the US early in the morning without taking as many kids as possible with them. We had four “regular” vehicles every school year and sometimes six with Baja plates which would be parked in the same place every school morning to walk kids onto the school grounds and pick them up in the afternoon (total of 40-50 minutes of parking per day). This went on the entire time I lived there (12 years). High school kids also drive their relatives and neighbors over the border and to school (even if it is a different school, due to age of the passengers).

The relevant Districts that have the vast majority of these border crossing students enrolled are:

South Bay Union School District (K-6): 6000 (approx)
Chula Vista Elementary School District (K-6): 29,300
Sweetwater Union High School District (7-12): 42,000
National School District (K-6): 3000 (approx)

That’s a total of approximately 80,300 students. I would take an educated guess that over 90% of the border crossing students into SD County every morning attend public school in one of the above districts. The other 10% are spread out in public schools elsewhere in the county which are closer to a parent’s workplace.

I did not include CUSD (Coronado) because they are much stricter about granting interdistrict transfers and enrollment/residency issues over there. Therefore, I feel it is unlikely that more than a handful (if any) daily “border crossing students” were able to pass thru their “vetting system.”[/quote]

Add to the above 4 school districts San Ysidro Elementary (K-8) with approx 5300 students for a total of approximately 85,600 public school students for academic year 15-16 in South County, SD. Sorry, my mind was telling me there were five districts last night, but it was late ….

SY Elem Sch District apparently has a large homeless population among its students. A group of them are apparently living out of vehicles, etc:

Homeless emergency in San Ysidro schools escalates with grant loss

The Governor turned down its grant proposal (for academic year 15/16) for assistance in this regard. Ask yourselves why.

Which begs the question. How did little tiny San Ysidro (mostly commercial/industrial) get 5300 school age kids (presumably) living within its district?? What are their addresses? How many actual residential units does SY have?

Here in my microcosm of 91910 (west side), we have ONE soon to be 9th grader, ONE soon to be 5th grader and ONE soon to be senior in HS living in a neighborhood with approx 80 single family homes! Another 2 students attend public school in Rancho Del Rey (5 miles away) and Otay Ranch HS (9 miles away). Another 8 school-age kids residing here are homeschooled. That’s 18 school-age kids for 80 homes, where just 3 are attending public schools in the attendance area! And they are all good schools, btw! The problem is that there are very few young parents who own/rent around here and the homes turn over very, very slowly (mostly due to Props 13, 58 and 193).

Hence, nearby Hilltop HS (SUHSD) was “significantly under-enrolled” in academic year ’15-16. No duh. This has been going on for years but the district has now decided to utilize it better (since it spent over $40M in construction bonds to remodel it in the past decade or so):

Parents Angered By Attendance Boundaries Change In Chula Vista …

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=spdrun]Total UK contributions to EU = something like $180 per taxpayer per year, USD equivalent at 1.4. The UK had control over its own borders — it was under no obligation to invite immigrants from outside the EU. In fact, under EU rules, it could send them back from whence they initially entered the EU.

As far as skill sets, Schengen simply meant that all citizens of EU countries could work and study where it best suited them in 28 countries. It is/was a huge boon to 500 million+ human beings.

People need to think beyond nationalism when thinking about such regional blocs. Don’t think: “those damn immigrants will steal my jerb.” Think: “wow. This is amazing. I now have access to many other countries, not just my own back yard.”

I’d love if the US became part of such a regional bloc with some countries to the north and south ;)[/quote]

Exactly, spdrun. globalization means “wow I can live anywhere I like. Wow, commerce and freedom of movement make us all richer.” What’s not to like. People are so fearful of change.

Brexit and the Trump phenomenon are the losers revolting
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/06/27/the-losers-have-revolted-and-brexit-is-only-the-beginning/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_wonk-revolt-720a-top%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

[Anonymous]

So in other words, are you not suggesting open borders?

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=deadzone]So in other words, are you not suggesting open borders?[/quote]

I’m suggesting progressively closer integration so we may build a more perfect world.

[Anonymous]

Can you find all the hate crimes committed in this poster?

I got to six and had to stop because I was overwhelmed with despair.

Such a horrible injustice inflicted on people of color.

[FlyerInHi]

Today is my down day. I really enjoyed watching the Brits discuss Brexit.
https://charlierose.com/videos/28290

One point they made is reason has been pushed aside.

[njtosd]

[quote=harvey]

Can you find all the hate crimes committed in this poster?

I got to six and had to stop because I was overwhelmed with despair.

Such a horrible injustice inflicted on people of color.[/quote]

By the Red Cross? http://wjla.com/news/nation-world/american-red-cross-apologizes-for-pool-safety-poster-featuring-not-cool-black-kids

There’s a difference between stupidity and a hate crime.

[no_such_reality]

I feel sorry for you if you take a cartoon poster for safety from the Red Cross and after counting noses leap to it being “hate crime” or as the twitterina’s skrieked ‘super racist’,

At worst it’s unconscious bias. Sadly this is were our country is at, counting noses on everything.

How dare I and how could I possibly see “those kids are running, that guy is drinking a beer in a bottle, he’s horsing around, they’re shoving …”

Oh, wait, backup, better count noses… Hey blue whale, what the f’s up with this?

Curse that white privilege, I just saw people.

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