Are Asians more bullish about housing in general…

[equalizer]

[quote=CA renter][quote=AK]Who were the fools who signed without reading? I bet it’s more likely the uneducated folks.

The entire closing process is designed to keep you from reading the papers or having a chance to get them reviewed.

Your loan docs arrive with just enough time to skim, sign, and FedEx off just in time to meet the closing deadline — this is no accident.

I know highly educated and financially astute people who got screwed by people they trusted. (I also believe that trusting “your own people,” whomever those people might be, leaves you wide-open to affinity fraud … but that’s a subject for another thread.)[/quote]

Absolutely true, AK.[/quote]
Its even worse, the courier brings paper to have you sign on spot without reading, just like Congress when they pass a bill.

[Coronita]

[quote=equalizer]
Acer creative in the USA? What kind of brand recognition do they have here? Where are there fancy gadgets that people crave? Brilliant marketing? But that doesn’t really matter as long as they can produce net profit, which was only $105M last quarter.

Samsung on the other hand is more on the bold side, they may even bring in a great Android Tablet this year (better have 10 hr battery life)!
Their Galaxy Sprint phone has great potential with advanced Bluetooth streaming to Samsung TVs and great keyboard.

Can someone tell me why all these tech companies with their hundreds of PhDs and design engineers continue to make phone keyboards that average male user deems unusable in 2 minutes??

I had conversation over 6 years ago with a smart 60yr old engineer lamenting dismal prospects for future jobs in USA for the young people. He said don’t worry about, that’s what they said about Japan in the 80’s and they didn’t take over the USA. Well maybe half the T-bond market, but that’s another story.[/quote]

I think you’re just digging deeper and deeper into a hole, EQ. But, since this blog is about bringing data. Let’s do that shall we?

Let’s talk about Acer since you brought it up. ..Acer overtook Dell in the #2 spot last December 2009. Acer also closing the gap on HP (which is remarkable, because we’re talking about HP + former Compaq)…And frankly, with Mark Hurd fired, I predict Acer will overtake HP once HP starts flubbing on it’s execution. In Q1 of 2010, the top 10 OEM was posted by Asian OEMS, most noteworthy ASUSTeK Computer Inc., Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd., Lenovo Group Ltd. and Acer Inc. Don’t believe me, go verify the data from iSuppli. Acer has 13.3% of the marketshare, while HP currently has 19.6%, US OEM’s lost ground considerably, though in reality the US versus non-US OEM computer companies is really a moot point, because none of this stuff is made here anymore anyway, which is another point of discussion. (For a refresher of Lenovo…This is the company that bought out IBM PC business, because IBM was smart enough to figure out that it wasn’t going to win in mud-fight with the other OEM’s and cashed out early)

posted on eetimes…

According to Gardner, Acer was also #1 in laptop shipments.

The growth of those “scrappy asian computer companies” has been at the expense of the U.S. OEM’s because those companies have figured out how to crack into a potentially larget market, China.

But in any case, HP is going to lose the market share, because the battle is not going to be in the PC markets. The battle is going to be in the netbooks/tablets/phone markets. From that perspective, both Acer and Dell are at least making an attempt in the right direction, with Acer also having a phone business, and both Acer and Dell having Android based phone and other non-pc projects. HP still has their head stuck up their ass in those markets.

While we’re at it, let’s also talk about the mobile phone business. Top OEM’s… Guess who is eating at Nokia, and why Nokia’s is now a single digit stock?

I might also add that almost all of the LCD technology in these smart phones came from the Koreans, with the highest quality/highest quality contrast screen found in Samsung Galaxy S (LCD made by Samsung) and Apple 4g (made by LG/Hitachi I believe) Every prediction 10 years ago about Samsung being the conglomerate gorilla equivalent of Sony has been dead on.

Side note: Go to sears appliance dept. And look at all the fridges/washers/dryers. Ask them who really makes Kenmore these days. It ain’t GE/Whirpool anymore…It’s LG and Samsung.

Motorola cell business, BTW is on life support, after a decade of fvckups. Currently, it’s turning around…run by Sanjay Jha…You might have heard of him, because he use to run Qualcomm QCT.Maybe you missed him at the La Costa country club because you thought he was the porter.

While where at it, let’s talk about HTC too. It started out a scrappy electronics company, and currently holds the #1 spot for Android based smartphone. If you are about to say about how much better iphones are. Save that argument too, because Android OEM’s logged the biggest percentage growth over the past two quarters.

Regarding
[quote]Can someone tell me why all these tech companies with their hundreds of PhDs and design engineers continue to make phone keyboards that average male user deems unusable in 2 minutes?? [/quote]

That depends on what keyboard you’re are talking about. If your talking about a touch keypad..Well, only until recently have any significant progress been made in touch technology with meaningful accuracy…Technology an innovation finally has caught up to allow meaningful keypads to be developed…

If you’re talking about physical keyboards on a phone, there is a classic tradeoff between weight/size of phone versus keyboard size. Motorola droid is a classic example in which they tried to put a real keyboard on the phone (which I thought was a novelty at the time)….But now relative to the peers like the Galaxy S, the droid feels like a fvckin brick.

If you find neither solutions feasible, you have a third option with is to use a Bluetooth HID keyboard and mouse, which should be available very soon on Android based phones directly from the OEMs…It’s already available via hacks/tweeks on Android Froyo based phones..If you don’t know what HID mouse/keyboard is or what Bluetooth is, well forget it…….If you somewhat know what it is, basic searching skills, you can figure out this mess at http://www.cyanogenmod.com/ if you are semi-skilled labor. If you’re a complete unskilled “mba in training”, my discounted bill out rate is $257/hr, and since you have no clue what I’ll be doing, I’ll say it takes 2 hrs for you 🙂

You could try an outsource shop, but they probably will end up turning your phone into a brick. Not to mention spending hours and hours of your own time interviewing/researching who would be the best to do that so you can save approximately $157/hr…But since you’re working on that killer app that’s going to make you millions, your hours must be worth more that $257/hour, right? After all, why waste your time on something that only costs $257/hr for two hours when clearly, your idea you’re working on is going to
be that 1-shot wonder that makes you millions….And if you think that’s expensive, I guess you’re idea and time isn’t as valuable as you thought 🙂

I’m bringing all this up, not to berate Americans/US or for that matter what’s great about this country. But I find it interesting that some folks think they’re going to be immune to the shit that’s going around and are pretty smug about thinking that you don’t think America is losing its edge and it won’t impact themselves…. and aren’t concerned about really contributing to build this country creativity/intellectual output.

[Coronita]

[quote=equalizer]
Acer creative in the USA? What kind of brand recognition do they have here? Where are there fancy gadgets that people crave? Brilliant marketing? But that doesn’t really matter as long as they can produce net profit, which was only $105M last quarter.

Samsung on the other hand is more on the bold side, they may even bring in a great Android Tablet this year (better have 10 hr battery life)!
Their Galaxy Sprint phone has great potential with advanced Bluetooth streaming to Samsung TVs and great keyboard.

Can someone tell me why all these tech companies with their hundreds of PhDs and design engineers continue to make phone keyboards that average male user deems unusable in 2 minutes??

I had conversation over 6 years ago with a smart 60yr old engineer lamenting dismal prospects for future jobs in USA for the young people. He said don’t worry about, that’s what they said about Japan in the 80’s and they didn’t take over the USA. Well maybe half the T-bond market, but that’s another story.[/quote]

I think you’re just digging deeper and deeper into a hole, EQ. But, since this blog is about bringing data. Let’s do that shall we?

Let’s talk about Acer since you brought it up. ..Acer overtook Dell in the #2 spot last December 2009. Acer also closing the gap on HP (which is remarkable, because we’re talking about HP + former Compaq)…And frankly, with Mark Hurd fired, I predict Acer will overtake HP once HP starts flubbing on it’s execution. In Q1 of 2010, the top 10 OEM was posted by Asian OEMS, most noteworthy ASUSTeK Computer Inc., Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd., Lenovo Group Ltd. and Acer Inc. Don’t believe me, go verify the data from iSuppli. Acer has 13.3% of the marketshare, while HP currently has 19.6%, US OEM’s lost ground considerably, though in reality the US versus non-US OEM computer companies is really a moot point, because none of this stuff is made here anymore anyway, which is another point of discussion. (For a refresher of Lenovo…This is the company that bought out IBM PC business, because IBM was smart enough to figure out that it wasn’t going to win in mud-fight with the other OEM’s and cashed out early)

posted on eetimes…

According to Gardner, Acer was also #1 in laptop shipments.

The growth of those “scrappy asian computer companies” has been at the expense of the U.S. OEM’s because those companies have figured out how to crack into a potentially larget market, China.

But in any case, HP is going to lose the market share, because the battle is not going to be in the PC markets. The battle is going to be in the netbooks/tablets/phone markets. From that perspective, both Acer and Dell are at least making an attempt in the right direction, with Acer also having a phone business, and both Acer and Dell having Android based phone and other non-pc projects. HP still has their head stuck up their ass in those markets.

While we’re at it, let’s also talk about the mobile phone business. Top OEM’s… Guess who is eating at Nokia, and why Nokia’s is now a single digit stock?

I might also add that almost all of the LCD technology in these smart phones came from the Koreans, with the highest quality/highest quality contrast screen found in Samsung Galaxy S (LCD made by Samsung) and Apple 4g (made by LG/Hitachi I believe) Every prediction 10 years ago about Samsung being the conglomerate gorilla equivalent of Sony has been dead on.

Side note: Go to sears appliance dept. And look at all the fridges/washers/dryers. Ask them who really makes Kenmore these days. It ain’t GE/Whirpool anymore…It’s LG and Samsung.

Motorola cell business, BTW is on life support, after a decade of fvckups. Currently, it’s turning around…run by Sanjay Jha…You might have heard of him, because he use to run Qualcomm QCT.Maybe you missed him at the La Costa country club because you thought he was the porter.

While where at it, let’s talk about HTC too. It started out a scrappy electronics company, and currently holds the #1 spot for Android based smartphone. If you are about to say about how much better iphones are. Save that argument too, because Android OEM’s logged the biggest percentage growth over the past two quarters.

Regarding
[quote]Can someone tell me why all these tech companies with their hundreds of PhDs and design engineers continue to make phone keyboards that average male user deems unusable in 2 minutes?? [/quote]

That depends on what keyboard you’re are talking about. If your talking about a touch keypad..Well, only until recently have any significant progress been made in touch technology with meaningful accuracy…Technology an innovation finally has caught up to allow meaningful keypads to be developed…

If you’re talking about physical keyboards on a phone, there is a classic tradeoff between weight/size of phone versus keyboard size. Motorola droid is a classic example in which they tried to put a real keyboard on the phone (which I thought was a novelty at the time)….But now relative to the peers like the Galaxy S, the droid feels like a fvckin brick.

If you find neither solutions feasible, you have a third option with is to use a Bluetooth HID keyboard and mouse, which should be available very soon on Android based phones directly from the OEMs…It’s already available via hacks/tweeks on Android Froyo based phones..If you don’t know what HID mouse/keyboard is or what Bluetooth is, well forget it…….If you somewhat know what it is, basic searching skills, you can figure out this mess at http://www.cyanogenmod.com/ if you are semi-skilled labor. If you’re a complete unskilled “mba in training”, my discounted bill out rate is $257/hr, and since you have no clue what I’ll be doing, I’ll say it takes 2 hrs for you 🙂

You could try an outsource shop, but they probably will end up turning your phone into a brick. Not to mention spending hours and hours of your own time interviewing/researching who would be the best to do that so you can save approximately $157/hr…But since you’re working on that killer app that’s going to make you millions, your hours must be worth more that $257/hour, right? After all, why waste your time on something that only costs $257/hr for two hours when clearly, your idea you’re working on is going to
be that 1-shot wonder that makes you millions….And if you think that’s expensive, I guess you’re idea and time isn’t as valuable as you thought 🙂

I’m bringing all this up, not to berate Americans/US or for that matter what’s great about this country. But I find it interesting that some folks think they’re going to be immune to the shit that’s going around and are pretty smug about thinking that you don’t think America is losing its edge and it won’t impact themselves…. and aren’t concerned about really contributing to build this country creativity/intellectual output.

[Coronita]

[quote=equalizer]
Acer creative in the USA? What kind of brand recognition do they have here? Where are there fancy gadgets that people crave? Brilliant marketing? But that doesn’t really matter as long as they can produce net profit, which was only $105M last quarter.

Samsung on the other hand is more on the bold side, they may even bring in a great Android Tablet this year (better have 10 hr battery life)!
Their Galaxy Sprint phone has great potential with advanced Bluetooth streaming to Samsung TVs and great keyboard.

Can someone tell me why all these tech companies with their hundreds of PhDs and design engineers continue to make phone keyboards that average male user deems unusable in 2 minutes??

I had conversation over 6 years ago with a smart 60yr old engineer lamenting dismal prospects for future jobs in USA for the young people. He said don’t worry about, that’s what they said about Japan in the 80’s and they didn’t take over the USA. Well maybe half the T-bond market, but that’s another story.[/quote]

I think you’re just digging deeper and deeper into a hole, EQ. But, since this blog is about bringing data. Let’s do that shall we?

Let’s talk about Acer since you brought it up. ..Acer overtook Dell in the #2 spot last December 2009. Acer also closing the gap on HP (which is remarkable, because we’re talking about HP + former Compaq)…And frankly, with Mark Hurd fired, I predict Acer will overtake HP once HP starts flubbing on it’s execution. In Q1 of 2010, the top 10 OEM was posted by Asian OEMS, most noteworthy ASUSTeK Computer Inc., Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd., Lenovo Group Ltd. and Acer Inc. Don’t believe me, go verify the data from iSuppli. Acer has 13.3% of the marketshare, while HP currently has 19.6%, US OEM’s lost ground considerably, though in reality the US versus non-US OEM computer companies is really a moot point, because none of this stuff is made here anymore anyway, which is another point of discussion. (For a refresher of Lenovo…This is the company that bought out IBM PC business, because IBM was smart enough to figure out that it wasn’t going to win in mud-fight with the other OEM’s and cashed out early)

posted on eetimes…

According to Gardner, Acer was also #1 in laptop shipments.

The growth of those “scrappy asian computer companies” has been at the expense of the U.S. OEM’s because those companies have figured out how to crack into a potentially larget market, China.

But in any case, HP is going to lose the market share, because the battle is not going to be in the PC markets. The battle is going to be in the netbooks/tablets/phone markets. From that perspective, both Acer and Dell are at least making an attempt in the right direction, with Acer also having a phone business, and both Acer and Dell having Android based phone and other non-pc projects. HP still has their head stuck up their ass in those markets.

While we’re at it, let’s also talk about the mobile phone business. Top OEM’s… Guess who is eating at Nokia, and why Nokia’s is now a single digit stock?

I might also add that almost all of the LCD technology in these smart phones came from the Koreans, with the highest quality/highest quality contrast screen found in Samsung Galaxy S (LCD made by Samsung) and Apple 4g (made by LG/Hitachi I believe) Every prediction 10 years ago about Samsung being the conglomerate gorilla equivalent of Sony has been dead on.

Side note: Go to sears appliance dept. And look at all the fridges/washers/dryers. Ask them who really makes Kenmore these days. It ain’t GE/Whirpool anymore…It’s LG and Samsung.

Motorola cell business, BTW is on life support, after a decade of fvckups. Currently, it’s turning around…run by Sanjay Jha…You might have heard of him, because he use to run Qualcomm QCT.Maybe you missed him at the La Costa country club because you thought he was the porter.

While where at it, let’s talk about HTC too. It started out a scrappy electronics company, and currently holds the #1 spot for Android based smartphone. If you are about to say about how much better iphones are. Save that argument too, because Android OEM’s logged the biggest percentage growth over the past two quarters.

Regarding
[quote]Can someone tell me why all these tech companies with their hundreds of PhDs and design engineers continue to make phone keyboards that average male user deems unusable in 2 minutes?? [/quote]

That depends on what keyboard you’re are talking about. If your talking about a touch keypad..Well, only until recently have any significant progress been made in touch technology with meaningful accuracy…Technology an innovation finally has caught up to allow meaningful keypads to be developed…

If you’re talking about physical keyboards on a phone, there is a classic tradeoff between weight/size of phone versus keyboard size. Motorola droid is a classic example in which they tried to put a real keyboard on the phone (which I thought was a novelty at the time)….But now relative to the peers like the Galaxy S, the droid feels like a fvckin brick.

If you find neither solutions feasible, you have a third option with is to use a Bluetooth HID keyboard and mouse, which should be available very soon on Android based phones directly from the OEMs…It’s already available via hacks/tweeks on Android Froyo based phones..If you don’t know what HID mouse/keyboard is or what Bluetooth is, well forget it…….If you somewhat know what it is, basic searching skills, you can figure out this mess at http://www.cyanogenmod.com/ if you are semi-skilled labor. If you’re a complete unskilled “mba in training”, my discounted bill out rate is $257/hr, and since you have no clue what I’ll be doing, I’ll say it takes 2 hrs for you 🙂

You could try an outsource shop, but they probably will end up turning your phone into a brick. Not to mention spending hours and hours of your own time interviewing/researching who would be the best to do that so you can save approximately $157/hr…But since you’re working on that killer app that’s going to make you millions, your hours must be worth more that $257/hour, right? After all, why waste your time on something that only costs $257/hr for two hours when clearly, your idea you’re working on is going to
be that 1-shot wonder that makes you millions….And if you think that’s expensive, I guess you’re idea and time isn’t as valuable as you thought 🙂

I’m bringing all this up, not to berate Americans/US or for that matter what’s great about this country. But I find it interesting that some folks think they’re going to be immune to the shit that’s going around and are pretty smug about thinking that you don’t think America is losing its edge and it won’t impact themselves…. and aren’t concerned about really contributing to build this country creativity/intellectual output.

[Coronita]

[quote=equalizer]
Acer creative in the USA? What kind of brand recognition do they have here? Where are there fancy gadgets that people crave? Brilliant marketing? But that doesn’t really matter as long as they can produce net profit, which was only $105M last quarter.

Samsung on the other hand is more on the bold side, they may even bring in a great Android Tablet this year (better have 10 hr battery life)!
Their Galaxy Sprint phone has great potential with advanced Bluetooth streaming to Samsung TVs and great keyboard.

Can someone tell me why all these tech companies with their hundreds of PhDs and design engineers continue to make phone keyboards that average male user deems unusable in 2 minutes??

I had conversation over 6 years ago with a smart 60yr old engineer lamenting dismal prospects for future jobs in USA for the young people. He said don’t worry about, that’s what they said about Japan in the 80’s and they didn’t take over the USA. Well maybe half the T-bond market, but that’s another story.[/quote]

I think you’re just digging deeper and deeper into a hole, EQ. But, since this blog is about bringing data. Let’s do that shall we?

Let’s talk about Acer since you brought it up. ..Acer overtook Dell in the #2 spot last December 2009. Acer also closing the gap on HP (which is remarkable, because we’re talking about HP + former Compaq)…And frankly, with Mark Hurd fired, I predict Acer will overtake HP once HP starts flubbing on it’s execution. In Q1 of 2010, the top 10 OEM was posted by Asian OEMS, most noteworthy ASUSTeK Computer Inc., Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd., Lenovo Group Ltd. and Acer Inc. Don’t believe me, go verify the data from iSuppli. Acer has 13.3% of the marketshare, while HP currently has 19.6%, US OEM’s lost ground considerably, though in reality the US versus non-US OEM computer companies is really a moot point, because none of this stuff is made here anymore anyway, which is another point of discussion. (For a refresher of Lenovo…This is the company that bought out IBM PC business, because IBM was smart enough to figure out that it wasn’t going to win in mud-fight with the other OEM’s and cashed out early)

posted on eetimes…

According to Gardner, Acer was also #1 in laptop shipments.

The growth of those “scrappy asian computer companies” has been at the expense of the U.S. OEM’s because those companies have figured out how to crack into a potentially larget market, China.

But in any case, HP is going to lose the market share, because the battle is not going to be in the PC markets. The battle is going to be in the netbooks/tablets/phone markets. From that perspective, both Acer and Dell are at least making an attempt in the right direction, with Acer also having a phone business, and both Acer and Dell having Android based phone and other non-pc projects. HP still has their head stuck up their ass in those markets.

While we’re at it, let’s also talk about the mobile phone business. Top OEM’s… Guess who is eating at Nokia, and why Nokia’s is now a single digit stock?

I might also add that almost all of the LCD technology in these smart phones came from the Koreans, with the highest quality/highest quality contrast screen found in Samsung Galaxy S (LCD made by Samsung) and Apple 4g (made by LG/Hitachi I believe) Every prediction 10 years ago about Samsung being the conglomerate gorilla equivalent of Sony has been dead on.

Side note: Go to sears appliance dept. And look at all the fridges/washers/dryers. Ask them who really makes Kenmore these days. It ain’t GE/Whirpool anymore…It’s LG and Samsung.

Motorola cell business, BTW is on life support, after a decade of fvckups. Currently, it’s turning around…run by Sanjay Jha…You might have heard of him, because he use to run Qualcomm QCT.Maybe you missed him at the La Costa country club because you thought he was the porter.

While where at it, let’s talk about HTC too. It started out a scrappy electronics company, and currently holds the #1 spot for Android based smartphone. If you are about to say about how much better iphones are. Save that argument too, because Android OEM’s logged the biggest percentage growth over the past two quarters.

Regarding
[quote]Can someone tell me why all these tech companies with their hundreds of PhDs and design engineers continue to make phone keyboards that average male user deems unusable in 2 minutes?? [/quote]

That depends on what keyboard you’re are talking about. If your talking about a touch keypad..Well, only until recently have any significant progress been made in touch technology with meaningful accuracy…Technology an innovation finally has caught up to allow meaningful keypads to be developed…

If you’re talking about physical keyboards on a phone, there is a classic tradeoff between weight/size of phone versus keyboard size. Motorola droid is a classic example in which they tried to put a real keyboard on the phone (which I thought was a novelty at the time)….But now relative to the peers like the Galaxy S, the droid feels like a fvckin brick.

If you find neither solutions feasible, you have a third option with is to use a Bluetooth HID keyboard and mouse, which should be available very soon on Android based phones directly from the OEMs…It’s already available via hacks/tweeks on Android Froyo based phones..If you don’t know what HID mouse/keyboard is or what Bluetooth is, well forget it…….If you somewhat know what it is, basic searching skills, you can figure out this mess at http://www.cyanogenmod.com/ if you are semi-skilled labor. If you’re a complete unskilled “mba in training”, my discounted bill out rate is $257/hr, and since you have no clue what I’ll be doing, I’ll say it takes 2 hrs for you 🙂

You could try an outsource shop, but they probably will end up turning your phone into a brick. Not to mention spending hours and hours of your own time interviewing/researching who would be the best to do that so you can save approximately $157/hr…But since you’re working on that killer app that’s going to make you millions, your hours must be worth more that $257/hour, right? After all, why waste your time on something that only costs $257/hr for two hours when clearly, your idea you’re working on is going to
be that 1-shot wonder that makes you millions….And if you think that’s expensive, I guess you’re idea and time isn’t as valuable as you thought 🙂

I’m bringing all this up, not to berate Americans/US or for that matter what’s great about this country. But I find it interesting that some folks think they’re going to be immune to the shit that’s going around and are pretty smug about thinking that you don’t think America is losing its edge and it won’t impact themselves…. and aren’t concerned about really contributing to build this country creativity/intellectual output.

[Coronita]

[quote=equalizer]
Acer creative in the USA? What kind of brand recognition do they have here? Where are there fancy gadgets that people crave? Brilliant marketing? But that doesn’t really matter as long as they can produce net profit, which was only $105M last quarter.

Samsung on the other hand is more on the bold side, they may even bring in a great Android Tablet this year (better have 10 hr battery life)!
Their Galaxy Sprint phone has great potential with advanced Bluetooth streaming to Samsung TVs and great keyboard.

Can someone tell me why all these tech companies with their hundreds of PhDs and design engineers continue to make phone keyboards that average male user deems unusable in 2 minutes??

I had conversation over 6 years ago with a smart 60yr old engineer lamenting dismal prospects for future jobs in USA for the young people. He said don’t worry about, that’s what they said about Japan in the 80’s and they didn’t take over the USA. Well maybe half the T-bond market, but that’s another story.[/quote]

I think you’re just digging deeper and deeper into a hole, EQ. But, since this blog is about bringing data. Let’s do that shall we?

Let’s talk about Acer since you brought it up. ..Acer overtook Dell in the #2 spot last December 2009. Acer also closing the gap on HP (which is remarkable, because we’re talking about HP + former Compaq)…And frankly, with Mark Hurd fired, I predict Acer will overtake HP once HP starts flubbing on it’s execution. In Q1 of 2010, the top 10 OEM was posted by Asian OEMS, most noteworthy ASUSTeK Computer Inc., Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd., Lenovo Group Ltd. and Acer Inc. Don’t believe me, go verify the data from iSuppli. Acer has 13.3% of the marketshare, while HP currently has 19.6%, US OEM’s lost ground considerably, though in reality the US versus non-US OEM computer companies is really a moot point, because none of this stuff is made here anymore anyway, which is another point of discussion. (For a refresher of Lenovo…This is the company that bought out IBM PC business, because IBM was smart enough to figure out that it wasn’t going to win in mud-fight with the other OEM’s and cashed out early)

posted on eetimes…

According to Gardner, Acer was also #1 in laptop shipments.

The growth of those “scrappy asian computer companies” has been at the expense of the U.S. OEM’s because those companies have figured out how to crack into a potentially larget market, China.

But in any case, HP is going to lose the market share, because the battle is not going to be in the PC markets. The battle is going to be in the netbooks/tablets/phone markets. From that perspective, both Acer and Dell are at least making an attempt in the right direction, with Acer also having a phone business, and both Acer and Dell having Android based phone and other non-pc projects. HP still has their head stuck up their ass in those markets.

While we’re at it, let’s also talk about the mobile phone business. Top OEM’s… Guess who is eating at Nokia, and why Nokia’s is now a single digit stock?

I might also add that almost all of the LCD technology in these smart phones came from the Koreans, with the highest quality/highest quality contrast screen found in Samsung Galaxy S (LCD made by Samsung) and Apple 4g (made by LG/Hitachi I believe) Every prediction 10 years ago about Samsung being the conglomerate gorilla equivalent of Sony has been dead on.

Side note: Go to sears appliance dept. And look at all the fridges/washers/dryers. Ask them who really makes Kenmore these days. It ain’t GE/Whirpool anymore…It’s LG and Samsung.

Motorola cell business, BTW is on life support, after a decade of fvckups. Currently, it’s turning around…run by Sanjay Jha…You might have heard of him, because he use to run Qualcomm QCT.Maybe you missed him at the La Costa country club because you thought he was the porter.

While where at it, let’s talk about HTC too. It started out a scrappy electronics company, and currently holds the #1 spot for Android based smartphone. If you are about to say about how much better iphones are. Save that argument too, because Android OEM’s logged the biggest percentage growth over the past two quarters.

Regarding
[quote]Can someone tell me why all these tech companies with their hundreds of PhDs and design engineers continue to make phone keyboards that average male user deems unusable in 2 minutes?? [/quote]

That depends on what keyboard you’re are talking about. If your talking about a touch keypad..Well, only until recently have any significant progress been made in touch technology with meaningful accuracy…Technology an innovation finally has caught up to allow meaningful keypads to be developed…

If you’re talking about physical keyboards on a phone, there is a classic tradeoff between weight/size of phone versus keyboard size. Motorola droid is a classic example in which they tried to put a real keyboard on the phone (which I thought was a novelty at the time)….But now relative to the peers like the Galaxy S, the droid feels like a fvckin brick.

If you find neither solutions feasible, you have a third option with is to use a Bluetooth HID keyboard and mouse, which should be available very soon on Android based phones directly from the OEMs…It’s already available via hacks/tweeks on Android Froyo based phones..If you don’t know what HID mouse/keyboard is or what Bluetooth is, well forget it…….If you somewhat know what it is, basic searching skills, you can figure out this mess at http://www.cyanogenmod.com/ if you are semi-skilled labor. If you’re a complete unskilled “mba in training”, my discounted bill out rate is $257/hr, and since you have no clue what I’ll be doing, I’ll say it takes 2 hrs for you 🙂

You could try an outsource shop, but they probably will end up turning your phone into a brick. Not to mention spending hours and hours of your own time interviewing/researching who would be the best to do that so you can save approximately $157/hr…But since you’re working on that killer app that’s going to make you millions, your hours must be worth more that $257/hour, right? After all, why waste your time on something that only costs $257/hr for two hours when clearly, your idea you’re working on is going to
be that 1-shot wonder that makes you millions….And if you think that’s expensive, I guess you’re idea and time isn’t as valuable as you thought 🙂

I’m bringing all this up, not to berate Americans/US or for that matter what’s great about this country. But I find it interesting that some folks think they’re going to be immune to the shit that’s going around and are pretty smug about thinking that you don’t think America is losing its edge and it won’t impact themselves…. and aren’t concerned about really contributing to build this country creativity/intellectual output.

[Coronita]

[quote=equalizer]Flu,

You can’t take every syllable literally.

Earlier this year I was at a dinner party with a VC(of course main office NoCa) and a top exec from your favorite tech company that you bash all the time. VC guy did state that deal making was being discussed at a fervent pace, but that his firm was very cautious. We talked about the wisdom of the Stuyvesant Town—Peter Cooper Village $5B debacle that Tishman Speyer and BlackRock walked away from this year. BTW, CALPERS invested and (probably lost) $600M in this project with their VC allotment to this project. Its obvious that Tishman and BlackRock folks are brilliant, we Piggs should bow to them. (maybe they didn’t read the fine print, which said $5.4Billion USD)

When the guy mentioned that Green tech is where VC money is looking, I went on a tirade, Piggington style. Let’s just say that these brilliant VC folks founding Tesla, etc are looking for the massive subsidy(handout, free cheese,etc) These “Green” firms are being planned and funded ONLY because of Govt subsidies, unlike the VC funded firms of the past that were privately funded. These “Green” firms can’t defy simple laws of physics and chemistry, their firms are not viable (by factor of 2-3 times, not 20-30%) without flu’s tax dollars. Its one thing to subsidize hybrid research, but quite another to subsidize questionable technologies such as ethanol, switchgrass, etc. Follow money back to lobby and that drives the funding, not science.

http://www.slate.com/id/2262229/pagenum/all/

[/quote]

Uh, sorry, this sounds crude. But…Green tech isn’t want it’s cracked up to be? Really, no shit? Who would have thought building a car from ground up woulda taken more subsidy than a VC would/can offer and woulda been drawing red for a very long time??? Perhaps maybe that’s why you don’t hear much more than almost lipservice about”green tech” in China yet, except manufacturing Li-Ion batteries at considerably less cost since one can skirt all the environment laws we have here?…

It’s simple EQ…Something like green tech is not evolution, it’s revolution innovation. Revolution innovation is always going to be capital intensive, the first people who do it are going to eat into the capital. IF it’s successful, everyone else reaps the benefits because it’s much easier to enhance whatever is successful.

I have a feeling you’re probably warped because you look at these innovations and see the 1:10 (or worse) success to failures and think most of this is bullshit. (Most of the ideas are bullshit.) But at the same time I think you’re dismissing all of innovation and all the usefulness of what folks can do with what we have now. And entire businesses/innovation built around other people’s success (or failures)…

The playbook for why a lot of these companies from Asia are so good at what they are doing now is simple. Someone else took care of all the hard part, and they are just adding innovation on top of that to take it to the next level. Japanese companies did this. Taiwanese companies did this. Korean companies are doing this, and same could be said for the Chinese companies (such as Huawei)..And frankly this is what consumers want. They want innovation, and evolution. And they don’t care who does it. Faster, cheaper, better.

Anyone who does tech knows, it’s far easier to get add enhancements to something that has been proven to succeed versus coming up with that 1 hit idea in the first rate, because I believe that 1 hit idea is like 1 in 10 at best. Even VC knows that (or should know that). Why were they so busy trying to incubate the same idea multiple times during the dot.com days?… They knew as well as everyone else it’s about execution, not about the idea. Ideas are a dime a dozen. It’s all about execution and most of the ideas will fail during execution…Some just take a 4th or 5th round of funding or a bridge loan before it’s declared dead.

Antivirus SW is perfect example in that it would not exist completely if Microsoft O/S wasn’t full of holes. You don’t have some MBA dude that has an idea that thinks “wow, MSFT is really buggy, my business plan is going to create patches and detectors for security flaws in MSFT products”. Someone is going have to be able to identify the “problem” and how to “solve it”. (Or in some cases, someone is going to create a problem and solve it…Irony, this is what MSFT does by creating a buggy O/S and also offering to sell you AV software…Lol…I’m still figuring out how gullible consumers are about that one). You can’t solve the problem or even identify it, if you don’t know what you’re doing.

[quote]
So the only people deluded are the ones that worship at the alter of the new VC crowd that now prey upon gullible Govt pension fund managers and figure out how to fleece taxpayers. But they may create high paying jobs, what the heck do I know?

Isn’t it bad enough that Student loans/grants provide over 80% of revenues for the for-profit universities that provide “passion degrees” that won’t pay the student loans?

Or that Fed Loans are causing tuition rates to go up 10% a year (no inflation here)

Or that health care subsidies are causing health care cost to skyrocket without any additional benefit? In fact, many medical procedures such as colonoscopy and stents have NEVER been proven to be scientifically better then less invasive, cheaper forms of treatment. But why conduct a study when you lobby Govt to force HMOS to pay most of costs? Is the USA most corrupt? You decide.

[/quote]

I couldn’t agree with you more about Vulture Capitals. But, heh, frankly, my startup costs were too low needing a full fledge vc. Plus the greedy basters weren’t interested in single digit growth. Fine by me, nice angel investors took care of that, nor did they really understand what I wanted to do. Nor did I really want them to either.

Big R&D projects HAVE to be funded by the government. Because most of the time they won’t turn a buck. Most of the the technology advances have been from DOD, from the point of military weapons,etc. Spread spectrum (basis for CDMA came from the military use..Raytheon I believe).

I’m not following how you think this is relevant to people’s education.

As far as the U.S. government being corrupt. Yes…Being the most corrupt? Are you serious? You have any idea of the sort of things that go on overseas?

I won’t go into painful details about what can go one but if you have countries that has secondary economies larger than the primary one, how can the U.S. possibly be the worst?

Regarding innovation: why I keep saying the fat lady hasn’t sung is somewhat ironic, based on experiences dealing with some of these places that have two economies….there’s a fine line between what constitute gray market consumer electronics and what I mentioned the main “white market” players I mentioned above does. You’re going to trust me on this one, but there are multiple players in the secondary market that are driving invocation much more so the primary market players…Namely, because they can get the the market faster than their white market counterparts, and often with more features than their white market counterparts, such that the white market players end up copying in the copier. It’s a big business for parts suppliers that can’t play in tier 1/2/3 businesses, and those gray market CO’s, and enabled by open source, which coincidentally is also so cryptic/obscure, that very few people know top to bottom. You can put two and two together how innovation happens and the interesting relationship between gray and white. Problem is, very few people can put this shit together. Definitely not your run of the mill MBA with no technical knowledge, no operational experience, no project management experience, and no understanding of the intricate cultural details.

[quote]

So I may not know Jack, but I’ve met people who do and I can tell difference between innovation and Govt handouts.

BTW, did I ever mention that I once met Spielberg in Santa Monica, but the dude wouldn’t give me a break. Well, I coulda been an actor, but I wound up here, spilling dirty laundry.[/quote]

Well, I think you know a lot of things , just not necessarily about how certain businesses and countries work.

Great you met Spielberg. I haven’t met too many myself….I shook hands with Pat Buchanan in a bathroom in Syracuse one time when i was in college. When I told my parents, my mom asked me if I remembered to wash my hands before leaving….I’ve never been a big fan of celebrity myself…expect maybe asian porn stars..I’d like to think I try to control my own destiny…

[Coronita]

[quote=equalizer]Flu,

You can’t take every syllable literally.

Earlier this year I was at a dinner party with a VC(of course main office NoCa) and a top exec from your favorite tech company that you bash all the time. VC guy did state that deal making was being discussed at a fervent pace, but that his firm was very cautious. We talked about the wisdom of the Stuyvesant Town—Peter Cooper Village $5B debacle that Tishman Speyer and BlackRock walked away from this year. BTW, CALPERS invested and (probably lost) $600M in this project with their VC allotment to this project. Its obvious that Tishman and BlackRock folks are brilliant, we Piggs should bow to them. (maybe they didn’t read the fine print, which said $5.4Billion USD)

When the guy mentioned that Green tech is where VC money is looking, I went on a tirade, Piggington style. Let’s just say that these brilliant VC folks founding Tesla, etc are looking for the massive subsidy(handout, free cheese,etc) These “Green” firms are being planned and funded ONLY because of Govt subsidies, unlike the VC funded firms of the past that were privately funded. These “Green” firms can’t defy simple laws of physics and chemistry, their firms are not viable (by factor of 2-3 times, not 20-30%) without flu’s tax dollars. Its one thing to subsidize hybrid research, but quite another to subsidize questionable technologies such as ethanol, switchgrass, etc. Follow money back to lobby and that drives the funding, not science.

http://www.slate.com/id/2262229/pagenum/all/

[/quote]

Uh, sorry, this sounds crude. But…Green tech isn’t want it’s cracked up to be? Really, no shit? Who would have thought building a car from ground up woulda taken more subsidy than a VC would/can offer and woulda been drawing red for a very long time??? Perhaps maybe that’s why you don’t hear much more than almost lipservice about”green tech” in China yet, except manufacturing Li-Ion batteries at considerably less cost since one can skirt all the environment laws we have here?…

It’s simple EQ…Something like green tech is not evolution, it’s revolution innovation. Revolution innovation is always going to be capital intensive, the first people who do it are going to eat into the capital. IF it’s successful, everyone else reaps the benefits because it’s much easier to enhance whatever is successful.

I have a feeling you’re probably warped because you look at these innovations and see the 1:10 (or worse) success to failures and think most of this is bullshit. (Most of the ideas are bullshit.) But at the same time I think you’re dismissing all of innovation and all the usefulness of what folks can do with what we have now. And entire businesses/innovation built around other people’s success (or failures)…

The playbook for why a lot of these companies from Asia are so good at what they are doing now is simple. Someone else took care of all the hard part, and they are just adding innovation on top of that to take it to the next level. Japanese companies did this. Taiwanese companies did this. Korean companies are doing this, and same could be said for the Chinese companies (such as Huawei)..And frankly this is what consumers want. They want innovation, and evolution. And they don’t care who does it. Faster, cheaper, better.

Anyone who does tech knows, it’s far easier to get add enhancements to something that has been proven to succeed versus coming up with that 1 hit idea in the first rate, because I believe that 1 hit idea is like 1 in 10 at best. Even VC knows that (or should know that). Why were they so busy trying to incubate the same idea multiple times during the dot.com days?… They knew as well as everyone else it’s about execution, not about the idea. Ideas are a dime a dozen. It’s all about execution and most of the ideas will fail during execution…Some just take a 4th or 5th round of funding or a bridge loan before it’s declared dead.

Antivirus SW is perfect example in that it would not exist completely if Microsoft O/S wasn’t full of holes. You don’t have some MBA dude that has an idea that thinks “wow, MSFT is really buggy, my business plan is going to create patches and detectors for security flaws in MSFT products”. Someone is going have to be able to identify the “problem” and how to “solve it”. (Or in some cases, someone is going to create a problem and solve it…Irony, this is what MSFT does by creating a buggy O/S and also offering to sell you AV software…Lol…I’m still figuring out how gullible consumers are about that one). You can’t solve the problem or even identify it, if you don’t know what you’re doing.

[quote]
So the only people deluded are the ones that worship at the alter of the new VC crowd that now prey upon gullible Govt pension fund managers and figure out how to fleece taxpayers. But they may create high paying jobs, what the heck do I know?

Isn’t it bad enough that Student loans/grants provide over 80% of revenues for the for-profit universities that provide “passion degrees” that won’t pay the student loans?

Or that Fed Loans are causing tuition rates to go up 10% a year (no inflation here)

Or that health care subsidies are causing health care cost to skyrocket without any additional benefit? In fact, many medical procedures such as colonoscopy and stents have NEVER been proven to be scientifically better then less invasive, cheaper forms of treatment. But why conduct a study when you lobby Govt to force HMOS to pay most of costs? Is the USA most corrupt? You decide.

[/quote]

I couldn’t agree with you more about Vulture Capitals. But, heh, frankly, my startup costs were too low needing a full fledge vc. Plus the greedy basters weren’t interested in single digit growth. Fine by me, nice angel investors took care of that, nor did they really understand what I wanted to do. Nor did I really want them to either.

Big R&D projects HAVE to be funded by the government. Because most of the time they won’t turn a buck. Most of the the technology advances have been from DOD, from the point of military weapons,etc. Spread spectrum (basis for CDMA came from the military use..Raytheon I believe).

I’m not following how you think this is relevant to people’s education.

As far as the U.S. government being corrupt. Yes…Being the most corrupt? Are you serious? You have any idea of the sort of things that go on overseas?

I won’t go into painful details about what can go one but if you have countries that has secondary economies larger than the primary one, how can the U.S. possibly be the worst?

Regarding innovation: why I keep saying the fat lady hasn’t sung is somewhat ironic, based on experiences dealing with some of these places that have two economies….there’s a fine line between what constitute gray market consumer electronics and what I mentioned the main “white market” players I mentioned above does. You’re going to trust me on this one, but there are multiple players in the secondary market that are driving invocation much more so the primary market players…Namely, because they can get the the market faster than their white market counterparts, and often with more features than their white market counterparts, such that the white market players end up copying in the copier. It’s a big business for parts suppliers that can’t play in tier 1/2/3 businesses, and those gray market CO’s, and enabled by open source, which coincidentally is also so cryptic/obscure, that very few people know top to bottom. You can put two and two together how innovation happens and the interesting relationship between gray and white. Problem is, very few people can put this shit together. Definitely not your run of the mill MBA with no technical knowledge, no operational experience, no project management experience, and no understanding of the intricate cultural details.

[quote]

So I may not know Jack, but I’ve met people who do and I can tell difference between innovation and Govt handouts.

BTW, did I ever mention that I once met Spielberg in Santa Monica, but the dude wouldn’t give me a break. Well, I coulda been an actor, but I wound up here, spilling dirty laundry.[/quote]

Well, I think you know a lot of things , just not necessarily about how certain businesses and countries work.

Great you met Spielberg. I haven’t met too many myself….I shook hands with Pat Buchanan in a bathroom in Syracuse one time when i was in college. When I told my parents, my mom asked me if I remembered to wash my hands before leaving….I’ve never been a big fan of celebrity myself…expect maybe asian porn stars..I’d like to think I try to control my own destiny…

[Coronita]

[quote=equalizer]Flu,

You can’t take every syllable literally.

Earlier this year I was at a dinner party with a VC(of course main office NoCa) and a top exec from your favorite tech company that you bash all the time. VC guy did state that deal making was being discussed at a fervent pace, but that his firm was very cautious. We talked about the wisdom of the Stuyvesant Town—Peter Cooper Village $5B debacle that Tishman Speyer and BlackRock walked away from this year. BTW, CALPERS invested and (probably lost) $600M in this project with their VC allotment to this project. Its obvious that Tishman and BlackRock folks are brilliant, we Piggs should bow to them. (maybe they didn’t read the fine print, which said $5.4Billion USD)

When the guy mentioned that Green tech is where VC money is looking, I went on a tirade, Piggington style. Let’s just say that these brilliant VC folks founding Tesla, etc are looking for the massive subsidy(handout, free cheese,etc) These “Green” firms are being planned and funded ONLY because of Govt subsidies, unlike the VC funded firms of the past that were privately funded. These “Green” firms can’t defy simple laws of physics and chemistry, their firms are not viable (by factor of 2-3 times, not 20-30%) without flu’s tax dollars. Its one thing to subsidize hybrid research, but quite another to subsidize questionable technologies such as ethanol, switchgrass, etc. Follow money back to lobby and that drives the funding, not science.

http://www.slate.com/id/2262229/pagenum/all/

[/quote]

Uh, sorry, this sounds crude. But…Green tech isn’t want it’s cracked up to be? Really, no shit? Who would have thought building a car from ground up woulda taken more subsidy than a VC would/can offer and woulda been drawing red for a very long time??? Perhaps maybe that’s why you don’t hear much more than almost lipservice about”green tech” in China yet, except manufacturing Li-Ion batteries at considerably less cost since one can skirt all the environment laws we have here?…

It’s simple EQ…Something like green tech is not evolution, it’s revolution innovation. Revolution innovation is always going to be capital intensive, the first people who do it are going to eat into the capital. IF it’s successful, everyone else reaps the benefits because it’s much easier to enhance whatever is successful.

I have a feeling you’re probably warped because you look at these innovations and see the 1:10 (or worse) success to failures and think most of this is bullshit. (Most of the ideas are bullshit.) But at the same time I think you’re dismissing all of innovation and all the usefulness of what folks can do with what we have now. And entire businesses/innovation built around other people’s success (or failures)…

The playbook for why a lot of these companies from Asia are so good at what they are doing now is simple. Someone else took care of all the hard part, and they are just adding innovation on top of that to take it to the next level. Japanese companies did this. Taiwanese companies did this. Korean companies are doing this, and same could be said for the Chinese companies (such as Huawei)..And frankly this is what consumers want. They want innovation, and evolution. And they don’t care who does it. Faster, cheaper, better.

Anyone who does tech knows, it’s far easier to get add enhancements to something that has been proven to succeed versus coming up with that 1 hit idea in the first rate, because I believe that 1 hit idea is like 1 in 10 at best. Even VC knows that (or should know that). Why were they so busy trying to incubate the same idea multiple times during the dot.com days?… They knew as well as everyone else it’s about execution, not about the idea. Ideas are a dime a dozen. It’s all about execution and most of the ideas will fail during execution…Some just take a 4th or 5th round of funding or a bridge loan before it’s declared dead.

Antivirus SW is perfect example in that it would not exist completely if Microsoft O/S wasn’t full of holes. You don’t have some MBA dude that has an idea that thinks “wow, MSFT is really buggy, my business plan is going to create patches and detectors for security flaws in MSFT products”. Someone is going have to be able to identify the “problem” and how to “solve it”. (Or in some cases, someone is going to create a problem and solve it…Irony, this is what MSFT does by creating a buggy O/S and also offering to sell you AV software…Lol…I’m still figuring out how gullible consumers are about that one). You can’t solve the problem or even identify it, if you don’t know what you’re doing.

[quote]
So the only people deluded are the ones that worship at the alter of the new VC crowd that now prey upon gullible Govt pension fund managers and figure out how to fleece taxpayers. But they may create high paying jobs, what the heck do I know?

Isn’t it bad enough that Student loans/grants provide over 80% of revenues for the for-profit universities that provide “passion degrees” that won’t pay the student loans?

Or that Fed Loans are causing tuition rates to go up 10% a year (no inflation here)

Or that health care subsidies are causing health care cost to skyrocket without any additional benefit? In fact, many medical procedures such as colonoscopy and stents have NEVER been proven to be scientifically better then less invasive, cheaper forms of treatment. But why conduct a study when you lobby Govt to force HMOS to pay most of costs? Is the USA most corrupt? You decide.

[/quote]

I couldn’t agree with you more about Vulture Capitals. But, heh, frankly, my startup costs were too low needing a full fledge vc. Plus the greedy basters weren’t interested in single digit growth. Fine by me, nice angel investors took care of that, nor did they really understand what I wanted to do. Nor did I really want them to either.

Big R&D projects HAVE to be funded by the government. Because most of the time they won’t turn a buck. Most of the the technology advances have been from DOD, from the point of military weapons,etc. Spread spectrum (basis for CDMA came from the military use..Raytheon I believe).

I’m not following how you think this is relevant to people’s education.

As far as the U.S. government being corrupt. Yes…Being the most corrupt? Are you serious? You have any idea of the sort of things that go on overseas?

I won’t go into painful details about what can go one but if you have countries that has secondary economies larger than the primary one, how can the U.S. possibly be the worst?

Regarding innovation: why I keep saying the fat lady hasn’t sung is somewhat ironic, based on experiences dealing with some of these places that have two economies….there’s a fine line between what constitute gray market consumer electronics and what I mentioned the main “white market” players I mentioned above does. You’re going to trust me on this one, but there are multiple players in the secondary market that are driving invocation much more so the primary market players…Namely, because they can get the the market faster than their white market counterparts, and often with more features than their white market counterparts, such that the white market players end up copying in the copier. It’s a big business for parts suppliers that can’t play in tier 1/2/3 businesses, and those gray market CO’s, and enabled by open source, which coincidentally is also so cryptic/obscure, that very few people know top to bottom. You can put two and two together how innovation happens and the interesting relationship between gray and white. Problem is, very few people can put this shit together. Definitely not your run of the mill MBA with no technical knowledge, no operational experience, no project management experience, and no understanding of the intricate cultural details.

[quote]

So I may not know Jack, but I’ve met people who do and I can tell difference between innovation and Govt handouts.

BTW, did I ever mention that I once met Spielberg in Santa Monica, but the dude wouldn’t give me a break. Well, I coulda been an actor, but I wound up here, spilling dirty laundry.[/quote]

Well, I think you know a lot of things , just not necessarily about how certain businesses and countries work.

Great you met Spielberg. I haven’t met too many myself….I shook hands with Pat Buchanan in a bathroom in Syracuse one time when i was in college. When I told my parents, my mom asked me if I remembered to wash my hands before leaving….I’ve never been a big fan of celebrity myself…expect maybe asian porn stars..I’d like to think I try to control my own destiny…

[Coronita]

[quote=equalizer]Flu,

You can’t take every syllable literally.

Earlier this year I was at a dinner party with a VC(of course main office NoCa) and a top exec from your favorite tech company that you bash all the time. VC guy did state that deal making was being discussed at a fervent pace, but that his firm was very cautious. We talked about the wisdom of the Stuyvesant Town—Peter Cooper Village $5B debacle that Tishman Speyer and BlackRock walked away from this year. BTW, CALPERS invested and (probably lost) $600M in this project with their VC allotment to this project. Its obvious that Tishman and BlackRock folks are brilliant, we Piggs should bow to them. (maybe they didn’t read the fine print, which said $5.4Billion USD)

When the guy mentioned that Green tech is where VC money is looking, I went on a tirade, Piggington style. Let’s just say that these brilliant VC folks founding Tesla, etc are looking for the massive subsidy(handout, free cheese,etc) These “Green” firms are being planned and funded ONLY because of Govt subsidies, unlike the VC funded firms of the past that were privately funded. These “Green” firms can’t defy simple laws of physics and chemistry, their firms are not viable (by factor of 2-3 times, not 20-30%) without flu’s tax dollars. Its one thing to subsidize hybrid research, but quite another to subsidize questionable technologies such as ethanol, switchgrass, etc. Follow money back to lobby and that drives the funding, not science.

http://www.slate.com/id/2262229/pagenum/all/

[/quote]

Uh, sorry, this sounds crude. But…Green tech isn’t want it’s cracked up to be? Really, no shit? Who would have thought building a car from ground up woulda taken more subsidy than a VC would/can offer and woulda been drawing red for a very long time??? Perhaps maybe that’s why you don’t hear much more than almost lipservice about”green tech” in China yet, except manufacturing Li-Ion batteries at considerably less cost since one can skirt all the environment laws we have here?…

It’s simple EQ…Something like green tech is not evolution, it’s revolution innovation. Revolution innovation is always going to be capital intensive, the first people who do it are going to eat into the capital. IF it’s successful, everyone else reaps the benefits because it’s much easier to enhance whatever is successful.

I have a feeling you’re probably warped because you look at these innovations and see the 1:10 (or worse) success to failures and think most of this is bullshit. (Most of the ideas are bullshit.) But at the same time I think you’re dismissing all of innovation and all the usefulness of what folks can do with what we have now. And entire businesses/innovation built around other people’s success (or failures)…

The playbook for why a lot of these companies from Asia are so good at what they are doing now is simple. Someone else took care of all the hard part, and they are just adding innovation on top of that to take it to the next level. Japanese companies did this. Taiwanese companies did this. Korean companies are doing this, and same could be said for the Chinese companies (such as Huawei)..And frankly this is what consumers want. They want innovation, and evolution. And they don’t care who does it. Faster, cheaper, better.

Anyone who does tech knows, it’s far easier to get add enhancements to something that has been proven to succeed versus coming up with that 1 hit idea in the first rate, because I believe that 1 hit idea is like 1 in 10 at best. Even VC knows that (or should know that). Why were they so busy trying to incubate the same idea multiple times during the dot.com days?… They knew as well as everyone else it’s about execution, not about the idea. Ideas are a dime a dozen. It’s all about execution and most of the ideas will fail during execution…Some just take a 4th or 5th round of funding or a bridge loan before it’s declared dead.

Antivirus SW is perfect example in that it would not exist completely if Microsoft O/S wasn’t full of holes. You don’t have some MBA dude that has an idea that thinks “wow, MSFT is really buggy, my business plan is going to create patches and detectors for security flaws in MSFT products”. Someone is going have to be able to identify the “problem” and how to “solve it”. (Or in some cases, someone is going to create a problem and solve it…Irony, this is what MSFT does by creating a buggy O/S and also offering to sell you AV software…Lol…I’m still figuring out how gullible consumers are about that one). You can’t solve the problem or even identify it, if you don’t know what you’re doing.

[quote]
So the only people deluded are the ones that worship at the alter of the new VC crowd that now prey upon gullible Govt pension fund managers and figure out how to fleece taxpayers. But they may create high paying jobs, what the heck do I know?

Isn’t it bad enough that Student loans/grants provide over 80% of revenues for the for-profit universities that provide “passion degrees” that won’t pay the student loans?

Or that Fed Loans are causing tuition rates to go up 10% a year (no inflation here)

Or that health care subsidies are causing health care cost to skyrocket without any additional benefit? In fact, many medical procedures such as colonoscopy and stents have NEVER been proven to be scientifically better then less invasive, cheaper forms of treatment. But why conduct a study when you lobby Govt to force HMOS to pay most of costs? Is the USA most corrupt? You decide.

[/quote]

I couldn’t agree with you more about Vulture Capitals. But, heh, frankly, my startup costs were too low needing a full fledge vc. Plus the greedy basters weren’t interested in single digit growth. Fine by me, nice angel investors took care of that, nor did they really understand what I wanted to do. Nor did I really want them to either.

Big R&D projects HAVE to be funded by the government. Because most of the time they won’t turn a buck. Most of the the technology advances have been from DOD, from the point of military weapons,etc. Spread spectrum (basis for CDMA came from the military use..Raytheon I believe).

I’m not following how you think this is relevant to people’s education.

As far as the U.S. government being corrupt. Yes…Being the most corrupt? Are you serious? You have any idea of the sort of things that go on overseas?

I won’t go into painful details about what can go one but if you have countries that has secondary economies larger than the primary one, how can the U.S. possibly be the worst?

Regarding innovation: why I keep saying the fat lady hasn’t sung is somewhat ironic, based on experiences dealing with some of these places that have two economies….there’s a fine line between what constitute gray market consumer electronics and what I mentioned the main “white market” players I mentioned above does. You’re going to trust me on this one, but there are multiple players in the secondary market that are driving invocation much more so the primary market players…Namely, because they can get the the market faster than their white market counterparts, and often with more features than their white market counterparts, such that the white market players end up copying in the copier. It’s a big business for parts suppliers that can’t play in tier 1/2/3 businesses, and those gray market CO’s, and enabled by open source, which coincidentally is also so cryptic/obscure, that very few people know top to bottom. You can put two and two together how innovation happens and the interesting relationship between gray and white. Problem is, very few people can put this shit together. Definitely not your run of the mill MBA with no technical knowledge, no operational experience, no project management experience, and no understanding of the intricate cultural details.

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So I may not know Jack, but I’ve met people who do and I can tell difference between innovation and Govt handouts.

BTW, did I ever mention that I once met Spielberg in Santa Monica, but the dude wouldn’t give me a break. Well, I coulda been an actor, but I wound up here, spilling dirty laundry.[/quote]

Well, I think you know a lot of things , just not necessarily about how certain businesses and countries work.

Great you met Spielberg. I haven’t met too many myself….I shook hands with Pat Buchanan in a bathroom in Syracuse one time when i was in college. When I told my parents, my mom asked me if I remembered to wash my hands before leaving….I’ve never been a big fan of celebrity myself…expect maybe asian porn stars..I’d like to think I try to control my own destiny…

[Coronita]

[quote=equalizer]Flu,

You can’t take every syllable literally.

Earlier this year I was at a dinner party with a VC(of course main office NoCa) and a top exec from your favorite tech company that you bash all the time. VC guy did state that deal making was being discussed at a fervent pace, but that his firm was very cautious. We talked about the wisdom of the Stuyvesant Town—Peter Cooper Village $5B debacle that Tishman Speyer and BlackRock walked away from this year. BTW, CALPERS invested and (probably lost) $600M in this project with their VC allotment to this project. Its obvious that Tishman and BlackRock folks are brilliant, we Piggs should bow to them. (maybe they didn’t read the fine print, which said $5.4Billion USD)

When the guy mentioned that Green tech is where VC money is looking, I went on a tirade, Piggington style. Let’s just say that these brilliant VC folks founding Tesla, etc are looking for the massive subsidy(handout, free cheese,etc) These “Green” firms are being planned and funded ONLY because of Govt subsidies, unlike the VC funded firms of the past that were privately funded. These “Green” firms can’t defy simple laws of physics and chemistry, their firms are not viable (by factor of 2-3 times, not 20-30%) without flu’s tax dollars. Its one thing to subsidize hybrid research, but quite another to subsidize questionable technologies such as ethanol, switchgrass, etc. Follow money back to lobby and that drives the funding, not science.

http://www.slate.com/id/2262229/pagenum/all/

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Uh, sorry, this sounds crude. But…Green tech isn’t want it’s cracked up to be? Really, no shit? Who would have thought building a car from ground up woulda taken more subsidy than a VC would/can offer and woulda been drawing red for a very long time??? Perhaps maybe that’s why you don’t hear much more than almost lipservice about”green tech” in China yet, except manufacturing Li-Ion batteries at considerably less cost since one can skirt all the environment laws we have here?…

It’s simple EQ…Something like green tech is not evolution, it’s revolution innovation. Revolution innovation is always going to be capital intensive, the first people who do it are going to eat into the capital. IF it’s successful, everyone else reaps the benefits because it’s much easier to enhance whatever is successful.

I have a feeling you’re probably warped because you look at these innovations and see the 1:10 (or worse) success to failures and think most of this is bullshit. (Most of the ideas are bullshit.) But at the same time I think you’re dismissing all of innovation and all the usefulness of what folks can do with what we have now. And entire businesses/innovation built around other people’s success (or failures)…

The playbook for why a lot of these companies from Asia are so good at what they are doing now is simple. Someone else took care of all the hard part, and they are just adding innovation on top of that to take it to the next level. Japanese companies did this. Taiwanese companies did this. Korean companies are doing this, and same could be said for the Chinese companies (such as Huawei)..And frankly this is what consumers want. They want innovation, and evolution. And they don’t care who does it. Faster, cheaper, better.

Anyone who does tech knows, it’s far easier to get add enhancements to something that has been proven to succeed versus coming up with that 1 hit idea in the first rate, because I believe that 1 hit idea is like 1 in 10 at best. Even VC knows that (or should know that). Why were they so busy trying to incubate the same idea multiple times during the dot.com days?… They knew as well as everyone else it’s about execution, not about the idea. Ideas are a dime a dozen. It’s all about execution and most of the ideas will fail during execution…Some just take a 4th or 5th round of funding or a bridge loan before it’s declared dead.

Antivirus SW is perfect example in that it would not exist completely if Microsoft O/S wasn’t full of holes. You don’t have some MBA dude that has an idea that thinks “wow, MSFT is really buggy, my business plan is going to create patches and detectors for security flaws in MSFT products”. Someone is going have to be able to identify the “problem” and how to “solve it”. (Or in some cases, someone is going to create a problem and solve it…Irony, this is what MSFT does by creating a buggy O/S and also offering to sell you AV software…Lol…I’m still figuring out how gullible consumers are about that one). You can’t solve the problem or even identify it, if you don’t know what you’re doing.

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So the only people deluded are the ones that worship at the alter of the new VC crowd that now prey upon gullible Govt pension fund managers and figure out how to fleece taxpayers. But they may create high paying jobs, what the heck do I know?

Isn’t it bad enough that Student loans/grants provide over 80% of revenues for the for-profit universities that provide “passion degrees” that won’t pay the student loans?

Or that Fed Loans are causing tuition rates to go up 10% a year (no inflation here)

Or that health care subsidies are causing health care cost to skyrocket without any additional benefit? In fact, many medical procedures such as colonoscopy and stents have NEVER been proven to be scientifically better then less invasive, cheaper forms of treatment. But why conduct a study when you lobby Govt to force HMOS to pay most of costs? Is the USA most corrupt? You decide.

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I couldn’t agree with you more about Vulture Capitals. But, heh, frankly, my startup costs were too low needing a full fledge vc. Plus the greedy basters weren’t interested in single digit growth. Fine by me, nice angel investors took care of that, nor did they really understand what I wanted to do. Nor did I really want them to either.

Big R&D projects HAVE to be funded by the government. Because most of the time they won’t turn a buck. Most of the the technology advances have been from DOD, from the point of military weapons,etc. Spread spectrum (basis for CDMA came from the military use..Raytheon I believe).

I’m not following how you think this is relevant to people’s education.

As far as the U.S. government being corrupt. Yes…Being the most corrupt? Are you serious? You have any idea of the sort of things that go on overseas?

I won’t go into painful details about what can go one but if you have countries that has secondary economies larger than the primary one, how can the U.S. possibly be the worst?

Regarding innovation: why I keep saying the fat lady hasn’t sung is somewhat ironic, based on experiences dealing with some of these places that have two economies….there’s a fine line between what constitute gray market consumer electronics and what I mentioned the main “white market” players I mentioned above does. You’re going to trust me on this one, but there are multiple players in the secondary market that are driving invocation much more so the primary market players…Namely, because they can get the the market faster than their white market counterparts, and often with more features than their white market counterparts, such that the white market players end up copying in the copier. It’s a big business for parts suppliers that can’t play in tier 1/2/3 businesses, and those gray market CO’s, and enabled by open source, which coincidentally is also so cryptic/obscure, that very few people know top to bottom. You can put two and two together how innovation happens and the interesting relationship between gray and white. Problem is, very few people can put this shit together. Definitely not your run of the mill MBA with no technical knowledge, no operational experience, no project management experience, and no understanding of the intricate cultural details.

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So I may not know Jack, but I’ve met people who do and I can tell difference between innovation and Govt handouts.

BTW, did I ever mention that I once met Spielberg in Santa Monica, but the dude wouldn’t give me a break. Well, I coulda been an actor, but I wound up here, spilling dirty laundry.[/quote]

Well, I think you know a lot of things , just not necessarily about how certain businesses and countries work.

Great you met Spielberg. I haven’t met too many myself….I shook hands with Pat Buchanan in a bathroom in Syracuse one time when i was in college. When I told my parents, my mom asked me if I remembered to wash my hands before leaving….I’ve never been a big fan of celebrity myself…expect maybe asian porn stars..I’d like to think I try to control my own destiny…

[briansd1]

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I grew up with Imus and Stern so I’ll blame them for all my non-PC observations.

Walking down my street I rarely see Asians outside. Asked Asian neighbor about kids and parents said its so bad once kids they turn 7 because they have to take them to piano lessons, soccer practice, study lessons, volunteer clinics at homeless and women’s abuse shelters, etc. I think I can hear parents screaming at the kids, probably for missing the C(4) note 13 minutes into the Piano Concerto No.24 in C minor. Another Asian down the block got 23xx/2400 on SAT. And the happy white kids are playing baseball, hockey and basketball in the street. Could be that the white kids are talented creative geniuses with photographic memories and don’t need to study 12 hours a day (in grade school) to be succesful like Jobs and Gates?

Most really smart people I knew in college barely did any home work in high school, let alone grade school. Ask all the rich people you know how much they studied in grade school – high school and you’ll find that they were playing wiffle ball, not reading Encylopedia Brown and Evelyn Wood books (Yeah flu, Wood, not Lin)

Anyway, all that studying/college prepping is way overrated because smarter people (managers) hire those hard working nerds from around the world (read commodity) for technical output while they create oompanies and/or move up corporate ladder making important deals at La Costa.[/quote]

Let’s not get sidetracked into an Asia vs America contest argument.

Asian-American kids who live in this country are a product of America. So they’ll become just as creative as other Americans.

Kids with straight As who go to the best universities will be at a competitive advantage.

Sure, white kids maybe more a part of the “establishment”. But how many more generations will that last if they slack-off when others study? Don’t think that goofing around makes them more creative.

English only used to be enough. But it won’t be in the future.

House prices maybe expensive on the coasts, but if new immigrants can thrive, whites can make it too. Honestly, I don’t have much sympathy for the “white middle class” folks who feel they need to move to the Midwest or Portland to afford a house.

I goofed off too, but I’m a product of a different generation when things were simpler. The world is now much more competitive and global.

It doesn’t matter if Jobs and Gates dropped out of college because only a tiny portion of the population will become executives, CEOs, managers and millionaires.

If you’re going to become an ordinary adult with an ordinary family, and an ordinary job, you’re better off with a PhD than a bachelor degree. Even if a PhD has to work at entry level salary, he’ll be fine and live a comfortable life. A person with only a bachelor will not be fine if the only job he can find is at McDonald’s.

[briansd1]

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I grew up with Imus and Stern so I’ll blame them for all my non-PC observations.

Walking down my street I rarely see Asians outside. Asked Asian neighbor about kids and parents said its so bad once kids they turn 7 because they have to take them to piano lessons, soccer practice, study lessons, volunteer clinics at homeless and women’s abuse shelters, etc. I think I can hear parents screaming at the kids, probably for missing the C(4) note 13 minutes into the Piano Concerto No.24 in C minor. Another Asian down the block got 23xx/2400 on SAT. And the happy white kids are playing baseball, hockey and basketball in the street. Could be that the white kids are talented creative geniuses with photographic memories and don’t need to study 12 hours a day (in grade school) to be succesful like Jobs and Gates?

Most really smart people I knew in college barely did any home work in high school, let alone grade school. Ask all the rich people you know how much they studied in grade school – high school and you’ll find that they were playing wiffle ball, not reading Encylopedia Brown and Evelyn Wood books (Yeah flu, Wood, not Lin)

Anyway, all that studying/college prepping is way overrated because smarter people (managers) hire those hard working nerds from around the world (read commodity) for technical output while they create oompanies and/or move up corporate ladder making important deals at La Costa.[/quote]

Let’s not get sidetracked into an Asia vs America contest argument.

Asian-American kids who live in this country are a product of America. So they’ll become just as creative as other Americans.

Kids with straight As who go to the best universities will be at a competitive advantage.

Sure, white kids maybe more a part of the “establishment”. But how many more generations will that last if they slack-off when others study? Don’t think that goofing around makes them more creative.

English only used to be enough. But it won’t be in the future.

House prices maybe expensive on the coasts, but if new immigrants can thrive, whites can make it too. Honestly, I don’t have much sympathy for the “white middle class” folks who feel they need to move to the Midwest or Portland to afford a house.

I goofed off too, but I’m a product of a different generation when things were simpler. The world is now much more competitive and global.

It doesn’t matter if Jobs and Gates dropped out of college because only a tiny portion of the population will become executives, CEOs, managers and millionaires.

If you’re going to become an ordinary adult with an ordinary family, and an ordinary job, you’re better off with a PhD than a bachelor degree. Even if a PhD has to work at entry level salary, he’ll be fine and live a comfortable life. A person with only a bachelor will not be fine if the only job he can find is at McDonald’s.

[briansd1]

[quote=equalizer]
I grew up with Imus and Stern so I’ll blame them for all my non-PC observations.

Walking down my street I rarely see Asians outside. Asked Asian neighbor about kids and parents said its so bad once kids they turn 7 because they have to take them to piano lessons, soccer practice, study lessons, volunteer clinics at homeless and women’s abuse shelters, etc. I think I can hear parents screaming at the kids, probably for missing the C(4) note 13 minutes into the Piano Concerto No.24 in C minor. Another Asian down the block got 23xx/2400 on SAT. And the happy white kids are playing baseball, hockey and basketball in the street. Could be that the white kids are talented creative geniuses with photographic memories and don’t need to study 12 hours a day (in grade school) to be succesful like Jobs and Gates?

Most really smart people I knew in college barely did any home work in high school, let alone grade school. Ask all the rich people you know how much they studied in grade school – high school and you’ll find that they were playing wiffle ball, not reading Encylopedia Brown and Evelyn Wood books (Yeah flu, Wood, not Lin)

Anyway, all that studying/college prepping is way overrated because smarter people (managers) hire those hard working nerds from around the world (read commodity) for technical output while they create oompanies and/or move up corporate ladder making important deals at La Costa.[/quote]

Let’s not get sidetracked into an Asia vs America contest argument.

Asian-American kids who live in this country are a product of America. So they’ll become just as creative as other Americans.

Kids with straight As who go to the best universities will be at a competitive advantage.

Sure, white kids maybe more a part of the “establishment”. But how many more generations will that last if they slack-off when others study? Don’t think that goofing around makes them more creative.

English only used to be enough. But it won’t be in the future.

House prices maybe expensive on the coasts, but if new immigrants can thrive, whites can make it too. Honestly, I don’t have much sympathy for the “white middle class” folks who feel they need to move to the Midwest or Portland to afford a house.

I goofed off too, but I’m a product of a different generation when things were simpler. The world is now much more competitive and global.

It doesn’t matter if Jobs and Gates dropped out of college because only a tiny portion of the population will become executives, CEOs, managers and millionaires.

If you’re going to become an ordinary adult with an ordinary family, and an ordinary job, you’re better off with a PhD than a bachelor degree. Even if a PhD has to work at entry level salary, he’ll be fine and live a comfortable life. A person with only a bachelor will not be fine if the only job he can find is at McDonald’s.

[briansd1]

[quote=equalizer]
I grew up with Imus and Stern so I’ll blame them for all my non-PC observations.

Walking down my street I rarely see Asians outside. Asked Asian neighbor about kids and parents said its so bad once kids they turn 7 because they have to take them to piano lessons, soccer practice, study lessons, volunteer clinics at homeless and women’s abuse shelters, etc. I think I can hear parents screaming at the kids, probably for missing the C(4) note 13 minutes into the Piano Concerto No.24 in C minor. Another Asian down the block got 23xx/2400 on SAT. And the happy white kids are playing baseball, hockey and basketball in the street. Could be that the white kids are talented creative geniuses with photographic memories and don’t need to study 12 hours a day (in grade school) to be succesful like Jobs and Gates?

Most really smart people I knew in college barely did any home work in high school, let alone grade school. Ask all the rich people you know how much they studied in grade school – high school and you’ll find that they were playing wiffle ball, not reading Encylopedia Brown and Evelyn Wood books (Yeah flu, Wood, not Lin)

Anyway, all that studying/college prepping is way overrated because smarter people (managers) hire those hard working nerds from around the world (read commodity) for technical output while they create oompanies and/or move up corporate ladder making important deals at La Costa.[/quote]

Let’s not get sidetracked into an Asia vs America contest argument.

Asian-American kids who live in this country are a product of America. So they’ll become just as creative as other Americans.

Kids with straight As who go to the best universities will be at a competitive advantage.

Sure, white kids maybe more a part of the “establishment”. But how many more generations will that last if they slack-off when others study? Don’t think that goofing around makes them more creative.

English only used to be enough. But it won’t be in the future.

House prices maybe expensive on the coasts, but if new immigrants can thrive, whites can make it too. Honestly, I don’t have much sympathy for the “white middle class” folks who feel they need to move to the Midwest or Portland to afford a house.

I goofed off too, but I’m a product of a different generation when things were simpler. The world is now much more competitive and global.

It doesn’t matter if Jobs and Gates dropped out of college because only a tiny portion of the population will become executives, CEOs, managers and millionaires.

If you’re going to become an ordinary adult with an ordinary family, and an ordinary job, you’re better off with a PhD than a bachelor degree. Even if a PhD has to work at entry level salary, he’ll be fine and live a comfortable life. A person with only a bachelor will not be fine if the only job he can find is at McDonald’s.

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