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September 1, 2010 at 10:08 AM #599614September 1, 2010 at 10:17 AM #598560briansd1Guest
[quote=Arraya]
See a pattern here, the average joe is sold a bill of goods i.e. public policy or financial scam(usually going hand and hand). When they follow the policies or scams as put forth by officaldom and their living standard goes down, they is berated. Talk about an abusive relationship.Now, we just need them to keep internalizing the “fault” of their plight and make sure the don’t catch on that the will get sold down the river or scammed with every new policy. Besides, they are “spoiled and not competitive”. This permanent state of poverty should be a good little lesson for the new under-class.[/quote]
I tend to agree with you that the leaders have the responsibility to take care of and educate the average Joe.
But how come “the average joe is sold a bill of goods” and takes it lying down? Maybe because the Average Joe is uneducated and ignorant about the world. We deserve who we elect. It’s a chicken and egg issue here.
That’s why education is important. I admire immigrants who come here and work hard so that their children get the best education. Those immigrants still have ties to their economically growing home countries… and guess what? Their children and grandchildren will have the education and the contacts necessarily to run trade with America.
Then what happens to the Average Joe who doesn’t have college education because he was too busy rapping or playing football? He could try to find a factory job in Ohio or South Carolina — in a factory owned by a foreign company.
(That’s why I support policies to send Average Joes to college… but that’s another topic).
September 1, 2010 at 10:17 AM #598652briansd1Guest[quote=Arraya]
See a pattern here, the average joe is sold a bill of goods i.e. public policy or financial scam(usually going hand and hand). When they follow the policies or scams as put forth by officaldom and their living standard goes down, they is berated. Talk about an abusive relationship.Now, we just need them to keep internalizing the “fault” of their plight and make sure the don’t catch on that the will get sold down the river or scammed with every new policy. Besides, they are “spoiled and not competitive”. This permanent state of poverty should be a good little lesson for the new under-class.[/quote]
I tend to agree with you that the leaders have the responsibility to take care of and educate the average Joe.
But how come “the average joe is sold a bill of goods” and takes it lying down? Maybe because the Average Joe is uneducated and ignorant about the world. We deserve who we elect. It’s a chicken and egg issue here.
That’s why education is important. I admire immigrants who come here and work hard so that their children get the best education. Those immigrants still have ties to their economically growing home countries… and guess what? Their children and grandchildren will have the education and the contacts necessarily to run trade with America.
Then what happens to the Average Joe who doesn’t have college education because he was too busy rapping or playing football? He could try to find a factory job in Ohio or South Carolina — in a factory owned by a foreign company.
(That’s why I support policies to send Average Joes to college… but that’s another topic).
September 1, 2010 at 10:17 AM #599195briansd1Guest[quote=Arraya]
See a pattern here, the average joe is sold a bill of goods i.e. public policy or financial scam(usually going hand and hand). When they follow the policies or scams as put forth by officaldom and their living standard goes down, they is berated. Talk about an abusive relationship.Now, we just need them to keep internalizing the “fault” of their plight and make sure the don’t catch on that the will get sold down the river or scammed with every new policy. Besides, they are “spoiled and not competitive”. This permanent state of poverty should be a good little lesson for the new under-class.[/quote]
I tend to agree with you that the leaders have the responsibility to take care of and educate the average Joe.
But how come “the average joe is sold a bill of goods” and takes it lying down? Maybe because the Average Joe is uneducated and ignorant about the world. We deserve who we elect. It’s a chicken and egg issue here.
That’s why education is important. I admire immigrants who come here and work hard so that their children get the best education. Those immigrants still have ties to their economically growing home countries… and guess what? Their children and grandchildren will have the education and the contacts necessarily to run trade with America.
Then what happens to the Average Joe who doesn’t have college education because he was too busy rapping or playing football? He could try to find a factory job in Ohio or South Carolina — in a factory owned by a foreign company.
(That’s why I support policies to send Average Joes to college… but that’s another topic).
September 1, 2010 at 10:17 AM #599302briansd1Guest[quote=Arraya]
See a pattern here, the average joe is sold a bill of goods i.e. public policy or financial scam(usually going hand and hand). When they follow the policies or scams as put forth by officaldom and their living standard goes down, they is berated. Talk about an abusive relationship.Now, we just need them to keep internalizing the “fault” of their plight and make sure the don’t catch on that the will get sold down the river or scammed with every new policy. Besides, they are “spoiled and not competitive”. This permanent state of poverty should be a good little lesson for the new under-class.[/quote]
I tend to agree with you that the leaders have the responsibility to take care of and educate the average Joe.
But how come “the average joe is sold a bill of goods” and takes it lying down? Maybe because the Average Joe is uneducated and ignorant about the world. We deserve who we elect. It’s a chicken and egg issue here.
That’s why education is important. I admire immigrants who come here and work hard so that their children get the best education. Those immigrants still have ties to their economically growing home countries… and guess what? Their children and grandchildren will have the education and the contacts necessarily to run trade with America.
Then what happens to the Average Joe who doesn’t have college education because he was too busy rapping or playing football? He could try to find a factory job in Ohio or South Carolina — in a factory owned by a foreign company.
(That’s why I support policies to send Average Joes to college… but that’s another topic).
September 1, 2010 at 10:17 AM #599619briansd1Guest[quote=Arraya]
See a pattern here, the average joe is sold a bill of goods i.e. public policy or financial scam(usually going hand and hand). When they follow the policies or scams as put forth by officaldom and their living standard goes down, they is berated. Talk about an abusive relationship.Now, we just need them to keep internalizing the “fault” of their plight and make sure the don’t catch on that the will get sold down the river or scammed with every new policy. Besides, they are “spoiled and not competitive”. This permanent state of poverty should be a good little lesson for the new under-class.[/quote]
I tend to agree with you that the leaders have the responsibility to take care of and educate the average Joe.
But how come “the average joe is sold a bill of goods” and takes it lying down? Maybe because the Average Joe is uneducated and ignorant about the world. We deserve who we elect. It’s a chicken and egg issue here.
That’s why education is important. I admire immigrants who come here and work hard so that their children get the best education. Those immigrants still have ties to their economically growing home countries… and guess what? Their children and grandchildren will have the education and the contacts necessarily to run trade with America.
Then what happens to the Average Joe who doesn’t have college education because he was too busy rapping or playing football? He could try to find a factory job in Ohio or South Carolina — in a factory owned by a foreign company.
(That’s why I support policies to send Average Joes to college… but that’s another topic).
September 1, 2010 at 10:25 AM #598565briansd1Guest[quote=dbapig] And how do you become CEO or director? Become a manager first.[/quote]
The law of numbers apply here.
How many managers and executives have no college education? And how many executives are there out of the total population? There is no guarantee your kids will become part of the “establishment” unless you buy their way in.
If you come from modest means, the best way to become part of the establishment is to go to prep schools and Ivy league universities.
When you graduate, you may not be fully in the “establishment” but you won’t be at the bottom either.
September 1, 2010 at 10:25 AM #598657briansd1Guest[quote=dbapig] And how do you become CEO or director? Become a manager first.[/quote]
The law of numbers apply here.
How many managers and executives have no college education? And how many executives are there out of the total population? There is no guarantee your kids will become part of the “establishment” unless you buy their way in.
If you come from modest means, the best way to become part of the establishment is to go to prep schools and Ivy league universities.
When you graduate, you may not be fully in the “establishment” but you won’t be at the bottom either.
September 1, 2010 at 10:25 AM #599200briansd1Guest[quote=dbapig] And how do you become CEO or director? Become a manager first.[/quote]
The law of numbers apply here.
How many managers and executives have no college education? And how many executives are there out of the total population? There is no guarantee your kids will become part of the “establishment” unless you buy their way in.
If you come from modest means, the best way to become part of the establishment is to go to prep schools and Ivy league universities.
When you graduate, you may not be fully in the “establishment” but you won’t be at the bottom either.
September 1, 2010 at 10:25 AM #599307briansd1Guest[quote=dbapig] And how do you become CEO or director? Become a manager first.[/quote]
The law of numbers apply here.
How many managers and executives have no college education? And how many executives are there out of the total population? There is no guarantee your kids will become part of the “establishment” unless you buy their way in.
If you come from modest means, the best way to become part of the establishment is to go to prep schools and Ivy league universities.
When you graduate, you may not be fully in the “establishment” but you won’t be at the bottom either.
September 1, 2010 at 10:25 AM #599624briansd1Guest[quote=dbapig] And how do you become CEO or director? Become a manager first.[/quote]
The law of numbers apply here.
How many managers and executives have no college education? And how many executives are there out of the total population? There is no guarantee your kids will become part of the “establishment” unless you buy their way in.
If you come from modest means, the best way to become part of the establishment is to go to prep schools and Ivy league universities.
When you graduate, you may not be fully in the “establishment” but you won’t be at the bottom either.
September 1, 2010 at 10:39 AM #598575AKParticipantWho were the fools who signed without reading? I bet it’s more likely the uneducated folks.
The entire closing process is designed to keep you from reading the papers or having a chance to get them reviewed.
Your loan docs arrive with just enough time to skim, sign, and FedEx off just in time to meet the closing deadline — this is no accident.
I know highly educated and financially astute people who got screwed by people they trusted. (I also believe that trusting “your own people,” whomever those people might be, leaves you wide-open to affinity fraud … but that’s a subject for another thread.)
September 1, 2010 at 10:39 AM #598667AKParticipantWho were the fools who signed without reading? I bet it’s more likely the uneducated folks.
The entire closing process is designed to keep you from reading the papers or having a chance to get them reviewed.
Your loan docs arrive with just enough time to skim, sign, and FedEx off just in time to meet the closing deadline — this is no accident.
I know highly educated and financially astute people who got screwed by people they trusted. (I also believe that trusting “your own people,” whomever those people might be, leaves you wide-open to affinity fraud … but that’s a subject for another thread.)
September 1, 2010 at 10:39 AM #599210AKParticipantWho were the fools who signed without reading? I bet it’s more likely the uneducated folks.
The entire closing process is designed to keep you from reading the papers or having a chance to get them reviewed.
Your loan docs arrive with just enough time to skim, sign, and FedEx off just in time to meet the closing deadline — this is no accident.
I know highly educated and financially astute people who got screwed by people they trusted. (I also believe that trusting “your own people,” whomever those people might be, leaves you wide-open to affinity fraud … but that’s a subject for another thread.)
September 1, 2010 at 10:39 AM #599317AKParticipantWho were the fools who signed without reading? I bet it’s more likely the uneducated folks.
The entire closing process is designed to keep you from reading the papers or having a chance to get them reviewed.
Your loan docs arrive with just enough time to skim, sign, and FedEx off just in time to meet the closing deadline — this is no accident.
I know highly educated and financially astute people who got screwed by people they trusted. (I also believe that trusting “your own people,” whomever those people might be, leaves you wide-open to affinity fraud … but that’s a subject for another thread.)
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