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April 11, 2008 at 10:24 PM #185379April 11, 2008 at 10:42 PM #185328
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Guestall that, one thing of which I’m virtually certain is that having a child is one of the single most destructive things that a person (or, “couple,” I suppose I should say) can do to the planet
Some refreshing honesty for once from the environmentalist perspective. I don’t think you are alone in your views, I think your views are mainstream in the modern environmentalist movement, where under the surface, if you are prepared to dig hard enough, you will find its foundation is based on a true loathing of humanity– a core belief that the very presence of human beings is an offense to nature. Of course, the environmentalist will always be able to separate themselves and justify their own existence while maintaining that the rest of humanity is a burden and a drain on the planet that we should seek to minimize and/or eliminate. A significant portion of the higher educated and “sophisticated” western world shares this view that longs for an ideal world free from the troublesome burden of work, children, silly preoccupations with right and wrong, and other distractions that might get you off the course from self-fulfillment. If you know you would not make a good and parent and do not have a particular like for children, then you are doing the world a great service by not having children and should be commended. When people who do not want to be parents and do not like children have children anyway, the result is a screwed up child who grows up to be a screwed up adult. If you just want to do your time, hop in your pine box and take your dirt nap and really don’t care about the future after you (hopefully you have some friends that outlive you, so someone shows up to your funeral), that is your opinion, but whatever your profession is and how important you believe it to be, short of discovering the cure for cancer, what you do is insignificant and pales in comparison to the importance of creating and raising good human beings for the next generation, which by the way are not a burden to the planet, but the purpose of the planet. You see, sunsets are only beautiful because people exist that find them beautiful. Puppies are only cute because people exist that find them cute. Nature and the earth in and of themselves have no intrinsic value. Their value is derived from the existence of people that are able to appreciate them.
April 11, 2008 at 10:42 PM #185346Anonymous
Guestall that, one thing of which I’m virtually certain is that having a child is one of the single most destructive things that a person (or, “couple,” I suppose I should say) can do to the planet
Some refreshing honesty for once from the environmentalist perspective. I don’t think you are alone in your views, I think your views are mainstream in the modern environmentalist movement, where under the surface, if you are prepared to dig hard enough, you will find its foundation is based on a true loathing of humanity– a core belief that the very presence of human beings is an offense to nature. Of course, the environmentalist will always be able to separate themselves and justify their own existence while maintaining that the rest of humanity is a burden and a drain on the planet that we should seek to minimize and/or eliminate. A significant portion of the higher educated and “sophisticated” western world shares this view that longs for an ideal world free from the troublesome burden of work, children, silly preoccupations with right and wrong, and other distractions that might get you off the course from self-fulfillment. If you know you would not make a good and parent and do not have a particular like for children, then you are doing the world a great service by not having children and should be commended. When people who do not want to be parents and do not like children have children anyway, the result is a screwed up child who grows up to be a screwed up adult. If you just want to do your time, hop in your pine box and take your dirt nap and really don’t care about the future after you (hopefully you have some friends that outlive you, so someone shows up to your funeral), that is your opinion, but whatever your profession is and how important you believe it to be, short of discovering the cure for cancer, what you do is insignificant and pales in comparison to the importance of creating and raising good human beings for the next generation, which by the way are not a burden to the planet, but the purpose of the planet. You see, sunsets are only beautiful because people exist that find them beautiful. Puppies are only cute because people exist that find them cute. Nature and the earth in and of themselves have no intrinsic value. Their value is derived from the existence of people that are able to appreciate them.
April 11, 2008 at 10:42 PM #185374Anonymous
Guestall that, one thing of which I’m virtually certain is that having a child is one of the single most destructive things that a person (or, “couple,” I suppose I should say) can do to the planet
Some refreshing honesty for once from the environmentalist perspective. I don’t think you are alone in your views, I think your views are mainstream in the modern environmentalist movement, where under the surface, if you are prepared to dig hard enough, you will find its foundation is based on a true loathing of humanity– a core belief that the very presence of human beings is an offense to nature. Of course, the environmentalist will always be able to separate themselves and justify their own existence while maintaining that the rest of humanity is a burden and a drain on the planet that we should seek to minimize and/or eliminate. A significant portion of the higher educated and “sophisticated” western world shares this view that longs for an ideal world free from the troublesome burden of work, children, silly preoccupations with right and wrong, and other distractions that might get you off the course from self-fulfillment. If you know you would not make a good and parent and do not have a particular like for children, then you are doing the world a great service by not having children and should be commended. When people who do not want to be parents and do not like children have children anyway, the result is a screwed up child who grows up to be a screwed up adult. If you just want to do your time, hop in your pine box and take your dirt nap and really don’t care about the future after you (hopefully you have some friends that outlive you, so someone shows up to your funeral), that is your opinion, but whatever your profession is and how important you believe it to be, short of discovering the cure for cancer, what you do is insignificant and pales in comparison to the importance of creating and raising good human beings for the next generation, which by the way are not a burden to the planet, but the purpose of the planet. You see, sunsets are only beautiful because people exist that find them beautiful. Puppies are only cute because people exist that find them cute. Nature and the earth in and of themselves have no intrinsic value. Their value is derived from the existence of people that are able to appreciate them.
April 11, 2008 at 10:42 PM #185380Anonymous
Guestall that, one thing of which I’m virtually certain is that having a child is one of the single most destructive things that a person (or, “couple,” I suppose I should say) can do to the planet
Some refreshing honesty for once from the environmentalist perspective. I don’t think you are alone in your views, I think your views are mainstream in the modern environmentalist movement, where under the surface, if you are prepared to dig hard enough, you will find its foundation is based on a true loathing of humanity– a core belief that the very presence of human beings is an offense to nature. Of course, the environmentalist will always be able to separate themselves and justify their own existence while maintaining that the rest of humanity is a burden and a drain on the planet that we should seek to minimize and/or eliminate. A significant portion of the higher educated and “sophisticated” western world shares this view that longs for an ideal world free from the troublesome burden of work, children, silly preoccupations with right and wrong, and other distractions that might get you off the course from self-fulfillment. If you know you would not make a good and parent and do not have a particular like for children, then you are doing the world a great service by not having children and should be commended. When people who do not want to be parents and do not like children have children anyway, the result is a screwed up child who grows up to be a screwed up adult. If you just want to do your time, hop in your pine box and take your dirt nap and really don’t care about the future after you (hopefully you have some friends that outlive you, so someone shows up to your funeral), that is your opinion, but whatever your profession is and how important you believe it to be, short of discovering the cure for cancer, what you do is insignificant and pales in comparison to the importance of creating and raising good human beings for the next generation, which by the way are not a burden to the planet, but the purpose of the planet. You see, sunsets are only beautiful because people exist that find them beautiful. Puppies are only cute because people exist that find them cute. Nature and the earth in and of themselves have no intrinsic value. Their value is derived from the existence of people that are able to appreciate them.
April 11, 2008 at 10:42 PM #185385Anonymous
Guestall that, one thing of which I’m virtually certain is that having a child is one of the single most destructive things that a person (or, “couple,” I suppose I should say) can do to the planet
Some refreshing honesty for once from the environmentalist perspective. I don’t think you are alone in your views, I think your views are mainstream in the modern environmentalist movement, where under the surface, if you are prepared to dig hard enough, you will find its foundation is based on a true loathing of humanity– a core belief that the very presence of human beings is an offense to nature. Of course, the environmentalist will always be able to separate themselves and justify their own existence while maintaining that the rest of humanity is a burden and a drain on the planet that we should seek to minimize and/or eliminate. A significant portion of the higher educated and “sophisticated” western world shares this view that longs for an ideal world free from the troublesome burden of work, children, silly preoccupations with right and wrong, and other distractions that might get you off the course from self-fulfillment. If you know you would not make a good and parent and do not have a particular like for children, then you are doing the world a great service by not having children and should be commended. When people who do not want to be parents and do not like children have children anyway, the result is a screwed up child who grows up to be a screwed up adult. If you just want to do your time, hop in your pine box and take your dirt nap and really don’t care about the future after you (hopefully you have some friends that outlive you, so someone shows up to your funeral), that is your opinion, but whatever your profession is and how important you believe it to be, short of discovering the cure for cancer, what you do is insignificant and pales in comparison to the importance of creating and raising good human beings for the next generation, which by the way are not a burden to the planet, but the purpose of the planet. You see, sunsets are only beautiful because people exist that find them beautiful. Puppies are only cute because people exist that find them cute. Nature and the earth in and of themselves have no intrinsic value. Their value is derived from the existence of people that are able to appreciate them.
April 11, 2008 at 10:47 PM #185333nostradamus
ParticipantFunny, when I see Shakira in still photos, it just doesn’t do her justice. She’s not extraordinary until you see her dance.
The first time I saw her I was sick from food poisoning, holed up in my room in Guatemala. All I had was TV and I saw this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOeaxkMbGO8
I remember thinking: whoa, it’s a Latina Alanis Morisette! I liked her hair dark, it look so much more natural and complimented her face.
Later I saw this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4KSz71fCxY
and was like, daaaayum! Her hips are unhinged!
April 11, 2008 at 10:47 PM #185352nostradamus
ParticipantFunny, when I see Shakira in still photos, it just doesn’t do her justice. She’s not extraordinary until you see her dance.
The first time I saw her I was sick from food poisoning, holed up in my room in Guatemala. All I had was TV and I saw this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOeaxkMbGO8
I remember thinking: whoa, it’s a Latina Alanis Morisette! I liked her hair dark, it look so much more natural and complimented her face.
Later I saw this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4KSz71fCxY
and was like, daaaayum! Her hips are unhinged!
April 11, 2008 at 10:47 PM #185381nostradamus
ParticipantFunny, when I see Shakira in still photos, it just doesn’t do her justice. She’s not extraordinary until you see her dance.
The first time I saw her I was sick from food poisoning, holed up in my room in Guatemala. All I had was TV and I saw this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOeaxkMbGO8
I remember thinking: whoa, it’s a Latina Alanis Morisette! I liked her hair dark, it look so much more natural and complimented her face.
Later I saw this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4KSz71fCxY
and was like, daaaayum! Her hips are unhinged!
April 11, 2008 at 10:47 PM #185386nostradamus
ParticipantFunny, when I see Shakira in still photos, it just doesn’t do her justice. She’s not extraordinary until you see her dance.
The first time I saw her I was sick from food poisoning, holed up in my room in Guatemala. All I had was TV and I saw this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOeaxkMbGO8
I remember thinking: whoa, it’s a Latina Alanis Morisette! I liked her hair dark, it look so much more natural and complimented her face.
Later I saw this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4KSz71fCxY
and was like, daaaayum! Her hips are unhinged!
April 11, 2008 at 10:47 PM #185392nostradamus
ParticipantFunny, when I see Shakira in still photos, it just doesn’t do her justice. She’s not extraordinary until you see her dance.
The first time I saw her I was sick from food poisoning, holed up in my room in Guatemala. All I had was TV and I saw this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOeaxkMbGO8
I remember thinking: whoa, it’s a Latina Alanis Morisette! I liked her hair dark, it look so much more natural and complimented her face.
Later I saw this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4KSz71fCxY
and was like, daaaayum! Her hips are unhinged!
April 11, 2008 at 11:05 PM #185343Anonymous
Guestsifo, well said. 🙂 I’m glad I’m not alone in recognizing that something is just not quite right when someone thinks continuing life will ruin the planet and their is no place for children. It’s hard not to get a cold chill when you read something like that.
I could be called an environmentalist myself. I care for the planet, recycle and all that. However, it doesn’t take Einstein to figure out something’s off in my friend’s Dave’s post.
April 11, 2008 at 11:05 PM #185359Anonymous
Guestsifo, well said. 🙂 I’m glad I’m not alone in recognizing that something is just not quite right when someone thinks continuing life will ruin the planet and their is no place for children. It’s hard not to get a cold chill when you read something like that.
I could be called an environmentalist myself. I care for the planet, recycle and all that. However, it doesn’t take Einstein to figure out something’s off in my friend’s Dave’s post.
April 11, 2008 at 11:05 PM #185389Anonymous
Guestsifo, well said. 🙂 I’m glad I’m not alone in recognizing that something is just not quite right when someone thinks continuing life will ruin the planet and their is no place for children. It’s hard not to get a cold chill when you read something like that.
I could be called an environmentalist myself. I care for the planet, recycle and all that. However, it doesn’t take Einstein to figure out something’s off in my friend’s Dave’s post.
April 11, 2008 at 11:05 PM #185397Anonymous
Guestsifo, well said. 🙂 I’m glad I’m not alone in recognizing that something is just not quite right when someone thinks continuing life will ruin the planet and their is no place for children. It’s hard not to get a cold chill when you read something like that.
I could be called an environmentalist myself. I care for the planet, recycle and all that. However, it doesn’t take Einstein to figure out something’s off in my friend’s Dave’s post.
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