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April 11, 2008 at 7:22 PM #185311April 11, 2008 at 7:25 PM #185262CA renterParticipant
Rustico,
What a truly wonderful post, and I couldn’t agree more.
Having kids is a **full-time** job, and is more work than most outside jobs. However, it is also one of the most fulfilling things a person can ever experience — and you will only understand this if you actually have (and take care of!!!) your own children.
There are people who like to be selfish and not have anyone inconvenience them. They should probably not get married and definitely should not have kids. The entirely of your universe changes when forming familes, and for those who are unwilling to “go with it,” the shift can be brutal, which is probably why children are considered “stress factors” in a marriage — they truly are, if you’re not willing to be totally selfless and considerate of others.
For those who don’t want to get married/have kids, don’t do it. Why do these people (mostly men) feel they have to convert everyone to their anti-marriage/anti-children religion? Just don’t do it and be done with it. My only complaint would be about those who feel this way but fail to tell their dates and waste everyone’s time and energy on a failed relationship. Be honest, tell your date(s) that you don’t intend to get married or have children, and let her make the choice to continue to date you. Otherwise, you’re being deceptive, which is wrong in any dating/mating situation.
Personally, I think most people should be brutally honest on their first dates. Just get everything on the table and let people make informed decisions about what to expect and whether or not they want to pursue a relationship.
April 11, 2008 at 7:25 PM #185274CA renterParticipantRustico,
What a truly wonderful post, and I couldn’t agree more.
Having kids is a **full-time** job, and is more work than most outside jobs. However, it is also one of the most fulfilling things a person can ever experience — and you will only understand this if you actually have (and take care of!!!) your own children.
There are people who like to be selfish and not have anyone inconvenience them. They should probably not get married and definitely should not have kids. The entirely of your universe changes when forming familes, and for those who are unwilling to “go with it,” the shift can be brutal, which is probably why children are considered “stress factors” in a marriage — they truly are, if you’re not willing to be totally selfless and considerate of others.
For those who don’t want to get married/have kids, don’t do it. Why do these people (mostly men) feel they have to convert everyone to their anti-marriage/anti-children religion? Just don’t do it and be done with it. My only complaint would be about those who feel this way but fail to tell their dates and waste everyone’s time and energy on a failed relationship. Be honest, tell your date(s) that you don’t intend to get married or have children, and let her make the choice to continue to date you. Otherwise, you’re being deceptive, which is wrong in any dating/mating situation.
Personally, I think most people should be brutally honest on their first dates. Just get everything on the table and let people make informed decisions about what to expect and whether or not they want to pursue a relationship.
April 11, 2008 at 7:25 PM #185305CA renterParticipantRustico,
What a truly wonderful post, and I couldn’t agree more.
Having kids is a **full-time** job, and is more work than most outside jobs. However, it is also one of the most fulfilling things a person can ever experience — and you will only understand this if you actually have (and take care of!!!) your own children.
There are people who like to be selfish and not have anyone inconvenience them. They should probably not get married and definitely should not have kids. The entirely of your universe changes when forming familes, and for those who are unwilling to “go with it,” the shift can be brutal, which is probably why children are considered “stress factors” in a marriage — they truly are, if you’re not willing to be totally selfless and considerate of others.
For those who don’t want to get married/have kids, don’t do it. Why do these people (mostly men) feel they have to convert everyone to their anti-marriage/anti-children religion? Just don’t do it and be done with it. My only complaint would be about those who feel this way but fail to tell their dates and waste everyone’s time and energy on a failed relationship. Be honest, tell your date(s) that you don’t intend to get married or have children, and let her make the choice to continue to date you. Otherwise, you’re being deceptive, which is wrong in any dating/mating situation.
Personally, I think most people should be brutally honest on their first dates. Just get everything on the table and let people make informed decisions about what to expect and whether or not they want to pursue a relationship.
April 11, 2008 at 7:25 PM #185312CA renterParticipantRustico,
What a truly wonderful post, and I couldn’t agree more.
Having kids is a **full-time** job, and is more work than most outside jobs. However, it is also one of the most fulfilling things a person can ever experience — and you will only understand this if you actually have (and take care of!!!) your own children.
There are people who like to be selfish and not have anyone inconvenience them. They should probably not get married and definitely should not have kids. The entirely of your universe changes when forming familes, and for those who are unwilling to “go with it,” the shift can be brutal, which is probably why children are considered “stress factors” in a marriage — they truly are, if you’re not willing to be totally selfless and considerate of others.
For those who don’t want to get married/have kids, don’t do it. Why do these people (mostly men) feel they have to convert everyone to their anti-marriage/anti-children religion? Just don’t do it and be done with it. My only complaint would be about those who feel this way but fail to tell their dates and waste everyone’s time and energy on a failed relationship. Be honest, tell your date(s) that you don’t intend to get married or have children, and let her make the choice to continue to date you. Otherwise, you’re being deceptive, which is wrong in any dating/mating situation.
Personally, I think most people should be brutally honest on their first dates. Just get everything on the table and let people make informed decisions about what to expect and whether or not they want to pursue a relationship.
April 11, 2008 at 7:25 PM #185315CA renterParticipantRustico,
What a truly wonderful post, and I couldn’t agree more.
Having kids is a **full-time** job, and is more work than most outside jobs. However, it is also one of the most fulfilling things a person can ever experience — and you will only understand this if you actually have (and take care of!!!) your own children.
There are people who like to be selfish and not have anyone inconvenience them. They should probably not get married and definitely should not have kids. The entirely of your universe changes when forming familes, and for those who are unwilling to “go with it,” the shift can be brutal, which is probably why children are considered “stress factors” in a marriage — they truly are, if you’re not willing to be totally selfless and considerate of others.
For those who don’t want to get married/have kids, don’t do it. Why do these people (mostly men) feel they have to convert everyone to their anti-marriage/anti-children religion? Just don’t do it and be done with it. My only complaint would be about those who feel this way but fail to tell their dates and waste everyone’s time and energy on a failed relationship. Be honest, tell your date(s) that you don’t intend to get married or have children, and let her make the choice to continue to date you. Otherwise, you’re being deceptive, which is wrong in any dating/mating situation.
Personally, I think most people should be brutally honest on their first dates. Just get everything on the table and let people make informed decisions about what to expect and whether or not they want to pursue a relationship.
April 11, 2008 at 7:29 PM #185264daveljParticipantMarion wrote: “Dave, I understand you have to pay prostitutes, as mentioned previously, no decent woman would have you. I, on the other hand, don’t have to resort to such tactics.”
Apparently you do, Marion. How’s the search for that vaginamoney lawyer coming along?
As a point of fact, I’ve never actually directly paid for sex before (not that there’s anything wrong with that, of course – I’m not ruling it out for the future), but I’ve paid for a lot of meals, gifts, vacations, etc. for women over the years (that could be interpreted as “indirect” payment for sex). Of course, if these women are considered “prostitutes” by you… and I recall from an earlier post of yours that you were complaining about a guy not treating you to a “nice dinner” (I believe it was)… wait a minute, Marion… this whole prostitute thing is starting to take an interesting turn…
April 11, 2008 at 7:29 PM #185280daveljParticipantMarion wrote: “Dave, I understand you have to pay prostitutes, as mentioned previously, no decent woman would have you. I, on the other hand, don’t have to resort to such tactics.”
Apparently you do, Marion. How’s the search for that vaginamoney lawyer coming along?
As a point of fact, I’ve never actually directly paid for sex before (not that there’s anything wrong with that, of course – I’m not ruling it out for the future), but I’ve paid for a lot of meals, gifts, vacations, etc. for women over the years (that could be interpreted as “indirect” payment for sex). Of course, if these women are considered “prostitutes” by you… and I recall from an earlier post of yours that you were complaining about a guy not treating you to a “nice dinner” (I believe it was)… wait a minute, Marion… this whole prostitute thing is starting to take an interesting turn…
April 11, 2008 at 7:29 PM #185310daveljParticipantMarion wrote: “Dave, I understand you have to pay prostitutes, as mentioned previously, no decent woman would have you. I, on the other hand, don’t have to resort to such tactics.”
Apparently you do, Marion. How’s the search for that vaginamoney lawyer coming along?
As a point of fact, I’ve never actually directly paid for sex before (not that there’s anything wrong with that, of course – I’m not ruling it out for the future), but I’ve paid for a lot of meals, gifts, vacations, etc. for women over the years (that could be interpreted as “indirect” payment for sex). Of course, if these women are considered “prostitutes” by you… and I recall from an earlier post of yours that you were complaining about a guy not treating you to a “nice dinner” (I believe it was)… wait a minute, Marion… this whole prostitute thing is starting to take an interesting turn…
April 11, 2008 at 7:29 PM #185317daveljParticipantMarion wrote: “Dave, I understand you have to pay prostitutes, as mentioned previously, no decent woman would have you. I, on the other hand, don’t have to resort to such tactics.”
Apparently you do, Marion. How’s the search for that vaginamoney lawyer coming along?
As a point of fact, I’ve never actually directly paid for sex before (not that there’s anything wrong with that, of course – I’m not ruling it out for the future), but I’ve paid for a lot of meals, gifts, vacations, etc. for women over the years (that could be interpreted as “indirect” payment for sex). Of course, if these women are considered “prostitutes” by you… and I recall from an earlier post of yours that you were complaining about a guy not treating you to a “nice dinner” (I believe it was)… wait a minute, Marion… this whole prostitute thing is starting to take an interesting turn…
April 11, 2008 at 7:29 PM #185322daveljParticipantMarion wrote: “Dave, I understand you have to pay prostitutes, as mentioned previously, no decent woman would have you. I, on the other hand, don’t have to resort to such tactics.”
Apparently you do, Marion. How’s the search for that vaginamoney lawyer coming along?
As a point of fact, I’ve never actually directly paid for sex before (not that there’s anything wrong with that, of course – I’m not ruling it out for the future), but I’ve paid for a lot of meals, gifts, vacations, etc. for women over the years (that could be interpreted as “indirect” payment for sex). Of course, if these women are considered “prostitutes” by you… and I recall from an earlier post of yours that you were complaining about a guy not treating you to a “nice dinner” (I believe it was)… wait a minute, Marion… this whole prostitute thing is starting to take an interesting turn…
April 11, 2008 at 7:40 PM #185269AnonymousGuestI see I’ve made you angry, Dave. This is rich.
Submitted by davelj on April 11, 2008 – 7:29pm.
As a point of fact, I’ve never actually directly paid for sex before (not that there’s anything wrong with that, of course – I’m not ruling it out for the future), but I’ve paid for a lot of meals, gifts, vacations, etc. for women over the years (that could be interpreted as “indirect” payment for sex).
And yet, you remain alone. I on the other hand, can pick and choose.
Of course, if these women are considered “prostitutes” by you… and I recall from an earlier post of yours that you were complaining about a guy not treating you to a “nice dinner” (I believe it was)… wait a minute, Marion… this whole prostitute thing is starting to take an interesting turn…
One guy, Dave. ONE. Who was summarily dumped. There are others, Dave. In any event, in a serious relationship involving two adults, I assume both would be working, both should chip in on entertainment.
Now, let’s stop this here and let the thread stay on topic. It’s rather childish, don’t you agree?
April 11, 2008 at 7:40 PM #185284AnonymousGuestI see I’ve made you angry, Dave. This is rich.
Submitted by davelj on April 11, 2008 – 7:29pm.
As a point of fact, I’ve never actually directly paid for sex before (not that there’s anything wrong with that, of course – I’m not ruling it out for the future), but I’ve paid for a lot of meals, gifts, vacations, etc. for women over the years (that could be interpreted as “indirect” payment for sex).
And yet, you remain alone. I on the other hand, can pick and choose.
Of course, if these women are considered “prostitutes” by you… and I recall from an earlier post of yours that you were complaining about a guy not treating you to a “nice dinner” (I believe it was)… wait a minute, Marion… this whole prostitute thing is starting to take an interesting turn…
One guy, Dave. ONE. Who was summarily dumped. There are others, Dave. In any event, in a serious relationship involving two adults, I assume both would be working, both should chip in on entertainment.
Now, let’s stop this here and let the thread stay on topic. It’s rather childish, don’t you agree?
April 11, 2008 at 7:40 PM #185316AnonymousGuestI see I’ve made you angry, Dave. This is rich.
Submitted by davelj on April 11, 2008 – 7:29pm.
As a point of fact, I’ve never actually directly paid for sex before (not that there’s anything wrong with that, of course – I’m not ruling it out for the future), but I’ve paid for a lot of meals, gifts, vacations, etc. for women over the years (that could be interpreted as “indirect” payment for sex).
And yet, you remain alone. I on the other hand, can pick and choose.
Of course, if these women are considered “prostitutes” by you… and I recall from an earlier post of yours that you were complaining about a guy not treating you to a “nice dinner” (I believe it was)… wait a minute, Marion… this whole prostitute thing is starting to take an interesting turn…
One guy, Dave. ONE. Who was summarily dumped. There are others, Dave. In any event, in a serious relationship involving two adults, I assume both would be working, both should chip in on entertainment.
Now, let’s stop this here and let the thread stay on topic. It’s rather childish, don’t you agree?
April 11, 2008 at 7:40 PM #185321AnonymousGuestI see I’ve made you angry, Dave. This is rich.
Submitted by davelj on April 11, 2008 – 7:29pm.
As a point of fact, I’ve never actually directly paid for sex before (not that there’s anything wrong with that, of course – I’m not ruling it out for the future), but I’ve paid for a lot of meals, gifts, vacations, etc. for women over the years (that could be interpreted as “indirect” payment for sex).
And yet, you remain alone. I on the other hand, can pick and choose.
Of course, if these women are considered “prostitutes” by you… and I recall from an earlier post of yours that you were complaining about a guy not treating you to a “nice dinner” (I believe it was)… wait a minute, Marion… this whole prostitute thing is starting to take an interesting turn…
One guy, Dave. ONE. Who was summarily dumped. There are others, Dave. In any event, in a serious relationship involving two adults, I assume both would be working, both should chip in on entertainment.
Now, let’s stop this here and let the thread stay on topic. It’s rather childish, don’t you agree?
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