Any Bad Areas/Neighborhoods of Temecula or Murrieta?

[eclipxe]

themorgansplace,

Welcome! Glad you’re looking at Temecula/Murrieta. I’ve been here for 9 years (went to high school here, left for college and came back to work).

This area is actually excellent. There are a lot of people that bash the area online but many have never been or have driven briefly through. Temecula has a lot to offer (even for a young guy (24) like me). We’re close enough to anything that we HAVE to have that isn’t in town (high culture, the coast, prime restaurants). Most of my friends are pretty excited about the mall expansion – should be a great center to the city. Old Town is also growing up and becoming a pretty nice place to hang out on the weekends.

To answer your question – there are no REALLY bad places in Temecula, but there are a few less desirable areas that I’ve found.

1. Pujol St – This is probably the roughest area of the city and thankfully the hardest to get to. It is located behind old town and primary older apartments. Fairly run-down and low-income. Not a lot of random violence but I wouldn’t buy property there.

2. The corridor between Solana Way and Moronga on Margarita Rd. This area isn’t BAD, but the apartments along Margarita are older and lower-income. There has been a bit of isolated crime here and there but it doesn’t spill out. Temecula Elementary is located in this boundary and has a large ESL program. The neighbordhood across from some of the apartments is a bit older and looks somewhat run down. A lot of friends live in this area and I never feel unsafe parking overnight. Bordered by the expensive and nice Meadowview.

3. A small neighborhood behind Chaparral High (not sure of the street name but it is before Date along Margarita and you can tell by the upkeep in the neighborhood that there is a bit of trouble). No crime issues but a bit run down.

4. Older tract homes along La Serena way – some of the first tract homes built in Temecula, these are hard to find and look fine from La Serena. Inside the lots are small and the houses show their age. Feels escondido like. No problems with crime from what I can tell. Surrounded by nicer houses

5. Murrieta – I don’t know much about specific neighborhoods but there is a sketchy area near the intersection of Winchester Rd and Murrieta Hot Springs road (further down MHS rd on the left side). It looks to be a bit older community, maybe formed before Murrieta was a city. Not sure of crme but it just looks lower-income.
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There are some neighborhoods that might experience problems in 10-15 yrs but it’s a toss up. There are a few neighborhoods along Murrieta Hot Springs and Date in Murrieta that might decline faster than the rest of the valley. French Valley, Winchester, Menifee – cheaper but I fear will become drags on the area soon. Stay away.

Your best bet is central Temecula, South Temecula. The newer neighborhoods should hold up well (Harveston, Morgan Hill…Wolf Creek is a maybe). The older established areas should be fine (Meadowview and Roripaugh are doing fine so far).

Overall you can’t go too wrong in the area. The city isn’t designed in a way that would facilitate the type of demographic shift seen in Oceanside/Escondido. The high density housing and job base for enough low-income workers to cause serious decay in the area is not there.

Hope this helps! I am not sure if we can post realtor information but I have a good family friend that has done real estate in the area for close to 30 years.

[themorgansplace]

You’re the man exclipxe! That was what I was looking for. Thank you very much. So a handful of shady but not gang banging areas. Good to know. I noticed the areas you listed mostly contained the words “apartments” which I have already decided I am going to try and stay far away from as possible.

I don’t think there are any rules of not posting any Realtors info here but of there is, you can email me at travis -at- themorgansplace – com . Thanks for your input.

[themorgansplace]

You’re the man exclipxe! That was what I was looking for. Thank you very much. So a handful of shady but not gang banging areas. Good to know. I noticed the areas you listed mostly contained the words “apartments” which I have already decided I am going to try and stay far away from as possible.

I don’t think there are any rules of not posting any Realtors info here but of there is, you can email me at travis -at- themorgansplace – com . Thanks for your input.

[themorgansplace]

You’re the man exclipxe! That was what I was looking for. Thank you very much. So a handful of shady but not gang banging areas. Good to know. I noticed the areas you listed mostly contained the words “apartments” which I have already decided I am going to try and stay far away from as possible.

I don’t think there are any rules of not posting any Realtors info here but of there is, you can email me at travis -at- themorgansplace – com . Thanks for your input.

[themorgansplace]

You’re the man exclipxe! That was what I was looking for. Thank you very much. So a handful of shady but not gang banging areas. Good to know. I noticed the areas you listed mostly contained the words “apartments” which I have already decided I am going to try and stay far away from as possible.

I don’t think there are any rules of not posting any Realtors info here but of there is, you can email me at travis -at- themorgansplace – com . Thanks for your input.

[themorgansplace]

You’re the man exclipxe! That was what I was looking for. Thank you very much. So a handful of shady but not gang banging areas. Good to know. I noticed the areas you listed mostly contained the words “apartments” which I have already decided I am going to try and stay far away from as possible.

I don’t think there are any rules of not posting any Realtors info here but of there is, you can email me at travis -at- themorgansplace – com . Thanks for your input.

[temeculaguy]

morgan, no I am not a realtor and no I don’t refer people since I have only met a few that knew what they were doing and knew the area.

You are right, 90% will fall into what you want. Paramount is completely on target with regards to the overall town and it seems you and your toddlers will be well suited here, so lets find you an elementary school. Most of the Temecula and Murrieta schools are top tier performers on standardized tests with a few exceptions, just avoid those exceptions (the apartments up are clustered and the school(s) near the apartments are the ones that usually bring up the rear. Look at the state website, pick a few schools and hunt down houses in that range, the district has maps of boundaries online. Stay East of highway 15, stick to houses newer than 20 years old and in an hoa, you should be fine. Decide if you want a community pool in your hoa, or gated, and where you will be commuting to. Decide what size you want and what you want to pay. The areas up here have development names and each offer something a little different. I only know details about tracts on the South side of Temecula, I know a little about the others but not enough to give advice, however on the south side, I’ve studied the crap out of it. I can also refer you to posters who are experts on specific developments, it helped me in my research to pick the brains of the others.

Here is a link to the school performance in temecula, you can click on different things and learn about different things.

http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2007Base_Dst.aspx?allcds=3375192

most are mid to high 800, two elementary schools broke 900 and are located within specific developments (tony tobin for morgan hill and abbey renke for paseo del sol), but looking at the others it would be silly to ignore one that got an 897 or an 895, it’s close enough.

here are the boundaries

http://www.tvusd.k12.ca.us/

btw, this is the district you are fleeing

http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2007Base_Dst.aspx?cYear=&allcds=3773569&cChoice=2007BDst

3 elementary schools got 850 or better with 856 being the top school in the district.

In temecula only 3 of the 19 elems got below 850 (821, 835, 841). So the worst temecula school is about the same as the best oceanside school, you really cant go wrong.

Temecs numbers are on par with carlsbad
http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2007Base_Dst.aspx?allcds=3773551

but below poway

http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2007Base_Dst.aspx?allcds=3768296

here’s some fun with demographics, this is the highest performing school in the poway district (creekside)

http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2007BaseSchDC.aspx?allcds=37-68296-6117469&c=R

2% of the parents didn’t graduate high school, 2% did but didn’t go to college, 9% went to college and didn’t graduate, 37% hold a bachelors and 50% hold a graduate degree or higher. So when you go to parent teacher night and they find out you only have a bachelors, they sit you down where there aren’t any sharp objects you might hurt yourself with.

here is the whole sd county, funny how there is a price correlating directly to school performance, del mar, la jolla, carmel valley, solana beach, etc. all kick butt

http://dq.cde.ca.gov/dataquest/AcntRpt2008/2007Base_Co.aspx?cYear=&cSelect=37,SAN,DIEGO

sage cyn elem. in del mar is #1 with a 967 (demographics are 0 free lunchers and 0 non college attendee parents, holy shnikeees)

[temeculaguy]

morgan, no I am not a realtor and no I don’t refer people since I have only met a few that knew what they were doing and knew the area.

You are right, 90% will fall into what you want. Paramount is completely on target with regards to the overall town and it seems you and your toddlers will be well suited here, so lets find you an elementary school. Most of the Temecula and Murrieta schools are top tier performers on standardized tests with a few exceptions, just avoid those exceptions (the apartments up are clustered and the school(s) near the apartments are the ones that usually bring up the rear. Look at the state website, pick a few schools and hunt down houses in that range, the district has maps of boundaries online. Stay East of highway 15, stick to houses newer than 20 years old and in an hoa, you should be fine. Decide if you want a community pool in your hoa, or gated, and where you will be commuting to. Decide what size you want and what you want to pay. The areas up here have development names and each offer something a little different. I only know details about tracts on the South side of Temecula, I know a little about the others but not enough to give advice, however on the south side, I’ve studied the crap out of it. I can also refer you to posters who are experts on specific developments, it helped me in my research to pick the brains of the others.

Here is a link to the school performance in temecula, you can click on different things and learn about different things.

http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2007Base_Dst.aspx?allcds=3375192

most are mid to high 800, two elementary schools broke 900 and are located within specific developments (tony tobin for morgan hill and abbey renke for paseo del sol), but looking at the others it would be silly to ignore one that got an 897 or an 895, it’s close enough.

here are the boundaries

http://www.tvusd.k12.ca.us/

btw, this is the district you are fleeing

http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2007Base_Dst.aspx?cYear=&allcds=3773569&cChoice=2007BDst

3 elementary schools got 850 or better with 856 being the top school in the district.

In temecula only 3 of the 19 elems got below 850 (821, 835, 841). So the worst temecula school is about the same as the best oceanside school, you really cant go wrong.

Temecs numbers are on par with carlsbad
http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2007Base_Dst.aspx?allcds=3773551

but below poway

http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2007Base_Dst.aspx?allcds=3768296

here’s some fun with demographics, this is the highest performing school in the poway district (creekside)

http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2007BaseSchDC.aspx?allcds=37-68296-6117469&c=R

2% of the parents didn’t graduate high school, 2% did but didn’t go to college, 9% went to college and didn’t graduate, 37% hold a bachelors and 50% hold a graduate degree or higher. So when you go to parent teacher night and they find out you only have a bachelors, they sit you down where there aren’t any sharp objects you might hurt yourself with.

here is the whole sd county, funny how there is a price correlating directly to school performance, del mar, la jolla, carmel valley, solana beach, etc. all kick butt

http://dq.cde.ca.gov/dataquest/AcntRpt2008/2007Base_Co.aspx?cYear=&cSelect=37,SAN,DIEGO

sage cyn elem. in del mar is #1 with a 967 (demographics are 0 free lunchers and 0 non college attendee parents, holy shnikeees)

[temeculaguy]

morgan, no I am not a realtor and no I don’t refer people since I have only met a few that knew what they were doing and knew the area.

You are right, 90% will fall into what you want. Paramount is completely on target with regards to the overall town and it seems you and your toddlers will be well suited here, so lets find you an elementary school. Most of the Temecula and Murrieta schools are top tier performers on standardized tests with a few exceptions, just avoid those exceptions (the apartments up are clustered and the school(s) near the apartments are the ones that usually bring up the rear. Look at the state website, pick a few schools and hunt down houses in that range, the district has maps of boundaries online. Stay East of highway 15, stick to houses newer than 20 years old and in an hoa, you should be fine. Decide if you want a community pool in your hoa, or gated, and where you will be commuting to. Decide what size you want and what you want to pay. The areas up here have development names and each offer something a little different. I only know details about tracts on the South side of Temecula, I know a little about the others but not enough to give advice, however on the south side, I’ve studied the crap out of it. I can also refer you to posters who are experts on specific developments, it helped me in my research to pick the brains of the others.

Here is a link to the school performance in temecula, you can click on different things and learn about different things.

http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2007Base_Dst.aspx?allcds=3375192

most are mid to high 800, two elementary schools broke 900 and are located within specific developments (tony tobin for morgan hill and abbey renke for paseo del sol), but looking at the others it would be silly to ignore one that got an 897 or an 895, it’s close enough.

here are the boundaries

http://www.tvusd.k12.ca.us/

btw, this is the district you are fleeing

http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2007Base_Dst.aspx?cYear=&allcds=3773569&cChoice=2007BDst

3 elementary schools got 850 or better with 856 being the top school in the district.

In temecula only 3 of the 19 elems got below 850 (821, 835, 841). So the worst temecula school is about the same as the best oceanside school, you really cant go wrong.

Temecs numbers are on par with carlsbad
http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2007Base_Dst.aspx?allcds=3773551

but below poway

http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2007Base_Dst.aspx?allcds=3768296

here’s some fun with demographics, this is the highest performing school in the poway district (creekside)

http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2007BaseSchDC.aspx?allcds=37-68296-6117469&c=R

2% of the parents didn’t graduate high school, 2% did but didn’t go to college, 9% went to college and didn’t graduate, 37% hold a bachelors and 50% hold a graduate degree or higher. So when you go to parent teacher night and they find out you only have a bachelors, they sit you down where there aren’t any sharp objects you might hurt yourself with.

here is the whole sd county, funny how there is a price correlating directly to school performance, del mar, la jolla, carmel valley, solana beach, etc. all kick butt

http://dq.cde.ca.gov/dataquest/AcntRpt2008/2007Base_Co.aspx?cYear=&cSelect=37,SAN,DIEGO

sage cyn elem. in del mar is #1 with a 967 (demographics are 0 free lunchers and 0 non college attendee parents, holy shnikeees)

[temeculaguy]

morgan, no I am not a realtor and no I don’t refer people since I have only met a few that knew what they were doing and knew the area.

You are right, 90% will fall into what you want. Paramount is completely on target with regards to the overall town and it seems you and your toddlers will be well suited here, so lets find you an elementary school. Most of the Temecula and Murrieta schools are top tier performers on standardized tests with a few exceptions, just avoid those exceptions (the apartments up are clustered and the school(s) near the apartments are the ones that usually bring up the rear. Look at the state website, pick a few schools and hunt down houses in that range, the district has maps of boundaries online. Stay East of highway 15, stick to houses newer than 20 years old and in an hoa, you should be fine. Decide if you want a community pool in your hoa, or gated, and where you will be commuting to. Decide what size you want and what you want to pay. The areas up here have development names and each offer something a little different. I only know details about tracts on the South side of Temecula, I know a little about the others but not enough to give advice, however on the south side, I’ve studied the crap out of it. I can also refer you to posters who are experts on specific developments, it helped me in my research to pick the brains of the others.

Here is a link to the school performance in temecula, you can click on different things and learn about different things.

http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2007Base_Dst.aspx?allcds=3375192

most are mid to high 800, two elementary schools broke 900 and are located within specific developments (tony tobin for morgan hill and abbey renke for paseo del sol), but looking at the others it would be silly to ignore one that got an 897 or an 895, it’s close enough.

here are the boundaries

http://www.tvusd.k12.ca.us/

btw, this is the district you are fleeing

http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2007Base_Dst.aspx?cYear=&allcds=3773569&cChoice=2007BDst

3 elementary schools got 850 or better with 856 being the top school in the district.

In temecula only 3 of the 19 elems got below 850 (821, 835, 841). So the worst temecula school is about the same as the best oceanside school, you really cant go wrong.

Temecs numbers are on par with carlsbad
http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2007Base_Dst.aspx?allcds=3773551

but below poway

http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2007Base_Dst.aspx?allcds=3768296

here’s some fun with demographics, this is the highest performing school in the poway district (creekside)

http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2007BaseSchDC.aspx?allcds=37-68296-6117469&c=R

2% of the parents didn’t graduate high school, 2% did but didn’t go to college, 9% went to college and didn’t graduate, 37% hold a bachelors and 50% hold a graduate degree or higher. So when you go to parent teacher night and they find out you only have a bachelors, they sit you down where there aren’t any sharp objects you might hurt yourself with.

here is the whole sd county, funny how there is a price correlating directly to school performance, del mar, la jolla, carmel valley, solana beach, etc. all kick butt

http://dq.cde.ca.gov/dataquest/AcntRpt2008/2007Base_Co.aspx?cYear=&cSelect=37,SAN,DIEGO

sage cyn elem. in del mar is #1 with a 967 (demographics are 0 free lunchers and 0 non college attendee parents, holy shnikeees)

[temeculaguy]

morgan, no I am not a realtor and no I don’t refer people since I have only met a few that knew what they were doing and knew the area.

You are right, 90% will fall into what you want. Paramount is completely on target with regards to the overall town and it seems you and your toddlers will be well suited here, so lets find you an elementary school. Most of the Temecula and Murrieta schools are top tier performers on standardized tests with a few exceptions, just avoid those exceptions (the apartments up are clustered and the school(s) near the apartments are the ones that usually bring up the rear. Look at the state website, pick a few schools and hunt down houses in that range, the district has maps of boundaries online. Stay East of highway 15, stick to houses newer than 20 years old and in an hoa, you should be fine. Decide if you want a community pool in your hoa, or gated, and where you will be commuting to. Decide what size you want and what you want to pay. The areas up here have development names and each offer something a little different. I only know details about tracts on the South side of Temecula, I know a little about the others but not enough to give advice, however on the south side, I’ve studied the crap out of it. I can also refer you to posters who are experts on specific developments, it helped me in my research to pick the brains of the others.

Here is a link to the school performance in temecula, you can click on different things and learn about different things.

http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2007Base_Dst.aspx?allcds=3375192

most are mid to high 800, two elementary schools broke 900 and are located within specific developments (tony tobin for morgan hill and abbey renke for paseo del sol), but looking at the others it would be silly to ignore one that got an 897 or an 895, it’s close enough.

here are the boundaries

http://www.tvusd.k12.ca.us/

btw, this is the district you are fleeing

http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2007Base_Dst.aspx?cYear=&allcds=3773569&cChoice=2007BDst

3 elementary schools got 850 or better with 856 being the top school in the district.

In temecula only 3 of the 19 elems got below 850 (821, 835, 841). So the worst temecula school is about the same as the best oceanside school, you really cant go wrong.

Temecs numbers are on par with carlsbad
http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2007Base_Dst.aspx?allcds=3773551

but below poway

http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2007Base_Dst.aspx?allcds=3768296

here’s some fun with demographics, this is the highest performing school in the poway district (creekside)

http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2007BaseSchDC.aspx?allcds=37-68296-6117469&c=R

2% of the parents didn’t graduate high school, 2% did but didn’t go to college, 9% went to college and didn’t graduate, 37% hold a bachelors and 50% hold a graduate degree or higher. So when you go to parent teacher night and they find out you only have a bachelors, they sit you down where there aren’t any sharp objects you might hurt yourself with.

here is the whole sd county, funny how there is a price correlating directly to school performance, del mar, la jolla, carmel valley, solana beach, etc. all kick butt

http://dq.cde.ca.gov/dataquest/AcntRpt2008/2007Base_Co.aspx?cYear=&cSelect=37,SAN,DIEGO

sage cyn elem. in del mar is #1 with a 967 (demographics are 0 free lunchers and 0 non college attendee parents, holy shnikeees)

[Eugene]

I spent a lot of time looking at those school ratings, and in the end my conclusion was that the rating does not really matter. The rating is determined by three factors: free lunches, ESL students, and parent education levels. (And it’s hard to decouple these three because they are strongly correlated). ESL students perform poorly because they don’t understand English very well, and because they tend to have low-income parents. Free-lunchers and children of uneducated parents perform poorly because they are of below-average intelligence or because their home environments aren’t conducive to learning.

A very low rating could indicate that the school is an unsafe place for your children, but there is no reason to expect that they will perform any better if you put them into a 920 rating Temecula school instead of your neighborhood 780 rating Oceanside school.

Temecula numbers are on par with Carlsbad because residents of Temecula are, on average, almost as well-off and educated as residents of Carlsbad:

Carlsbad students: 18% free lunches, 9% English learners, 60% college graduate parents
Temecula students: 12% free lunches, 8% English learners, 49% college graduate parents

Poway studentss: 11% free lunches, 8% English learners, 73% college graduate parents
Oceanside students: 53% free lunches, 27% English learners, 23% college graduate parents

[Eugene]

I spent a lot of time looking at those school ratings, and in the end my conclusion was that the rating does not really matter. The rating is determined by three factors: free lunches, ESL students, and parent education levels. (And it’s hard to decouple these three because they are strongly correlated). ESL students perform poorly because they don’t understand English very well, and because they tend to have low-income parents. Free-lunchers and children of uneducated parents perform poorly because they are of below-average intelligence or because their home environments aren’t conducive to learning.

A very low rating could indicate that the school is an unsafe place for your children, but there is no reason to expect that they will perform any better if you put them into a 920 rating Temecula school instead of your neighborhood 780 rating Oceanside school.

Temecula numbers are on par with Carlsbad because residents of Temecula are, on average, almost as well-off and educated as residents of Carlsbad:

Carlsbad students: 18% free lunches, 9% English learners, 60% college graduate parents
Temecula students: 12% free lunches, 8% English learners, 49% college graduate parents

Poway studentss: 11% free lunches, 8% English learners, 73% college graduate parents
Oceanside students: 53% free lunches, 27% English learners, 23% college graduate parents

[Eugene]

I spent a lot of time looking at those school ratings, and in the end my conclusion was that the rating does not really matter. The rating is determined by three factors: free lunches, ESL students, and parent education levels. (And it’s hard to decouple these three because they are strongly correlated). ESL students perform poorly because they don’t understand English very well, and because they tend to have low-income parents. Free-lunchers and children of uneducated parents perform poorly because they are of below-average intelligence or because their home environments aren’t conducive to learning.

A very low rating could indicate that the school is an unsafe place for your children, but there is no reason to expect that they will perform any better if you put them into a 920 rating Temecula school instead of your neighborhood 780 rating Oceanside school.

Temecula numbers are on par with Carlsbad because residents of Temecula are, on average, almost as well-off and educated as residents of Carlsbad:

Carlsbad students: 18% free lunches, 9% English learners, 60% college graduate parents
Temecula students: 12% free lunches, 8% English learners, 49% college graduate parents

Poway studentss: 11% free lunches, 8% English learners, 73% college graduate parents
Oceanside students: 53% free lunches, 27% English learners, 23% college graduate parents

[Eugene]

I spent a lot of time looking at those school ratings, and in the end my conclusion was that the rating does not really matter. The rating is determined by three factors: free lunches, ESL students, and parent education levels. (And it’s hard to decouple these three because they are strongly correlated). ESL students perform poorly because they don’t understand English very well, and because they tend to have low-income parents. Free-lunchers and children of uneducated parents perform poorly because they are of below-average intelligence or because their home environments aren’t conducive to learning.

A very low rating could indicate that the school is an unsafe place for your children, but there is no reason to expect that they will perform any better if you put them into a 920 rating Temecula school instead of your neighborhood 780 rating Oceanside school.

Temecula numbers are on par with Carlsbad because residents of Temecula are, on average, almost as well-off and educated as residents of Carlsbad:

Carlsbad students: 18% free lunches, 9% English learners, 60% college graduate parents
Temecula students: 12% free lunches, 8% English learners, 49% college graduate parents

Poway studentss: 11% free lunches, 8% English learners, 73% college graduate parents
Oceanside students: 53% free lunches, 27% English learners, 23% college graduate parents

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