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December 19, 2008 at 10:29 AM #318447December 19, 2008 at 5:49 PM #318505socratttParticipant
Esmith great question. I think we should cut a deal with Mexico. Give TJ to Mexico but let America control the entire Baja Peninsula! That Peninsula would generate billions of Ameros! Although I love that it is fairly underdeveloped I believe Baja California holds an extreme amount of potential.
Whose is to say Mexico won’t be in a better financial position when all is said and done?
December 19, 2008 at 5:49 PM #318647socratttParticipantEsmith great question. I think we should cut a deal with Mexico. Give TJ to Mexico but let America control the entire Baja Peninsula! That Peninsula would generate billions of Ameros! Although I love that it is fairly underdeveloped I believe Baja California holds an extreme amount of potential.
Whose is to say Mexico won’t be in a better financial position when all is said and done?
December 19, 2008 at 5:49 PM #318568socratttParticipantEsmith great question. I think we should cut a deal with Mexico. Give TJ to Mexico but let America control the entire Baja Peninsula! That Peninsula would generate billions of Ameros! Although I love that it is fairly underdeveloped I believe Baja California holds an extreme amount of potential.
Whose is to say Mexico won’t be in a better financial position when all is said and done?
December 19, 2008 at 5:49 PM #318549socratttParticipantEsmith great question. I think we should cut a deal with Mexico. Give TJ to Mexico but let America control the entire Baja Peninsula! That Peninsula would generate billions of Ameros! Although I love that it is fairly underdeveloped I believe Baja California holds an extreme amount of potential.
Whose is to say Mexico won’t be in a better financial position when all is said and done?
December 19, 2008 at 5:49 PM #318157socratttParticipantEsmith great question. I think we should cut a deal with Mexico. Give TJ to Mexico but let America control the entire Baja Peninsula! That Peninsula would generate billions of Ameros! Although I love that it is fairly underdeveloped I believe Baja California holds an extreme amount of potential.
Whose is to say Mexico won’t be in a better financial position when all is said and done?
December 20, 2008 at 7:54 AM #3182514plexownerParticipantthe Amero would be introduced as the solution to a “currency crisis” or “financial crisis”
classic hegelian dialectic – decide that you want to make a change or implement something new, create a crisis, present your change or program as the solution to the crisis that you created
the real benefit of the Amero would be to sever all ties to the US dollar and debts denominated in US dollars – wipe the slate clean, so to speak (remember we are talking about a scenario where the US dollar has ‘collapsed’ and all faith in the US dollar has been lost)
the history of fiat currencies is consistent – none of them have survived long term – to think that the US dollar will somehow survive long term is naive IMO
George Ure (www. urbansurvival.com) has studied the lifecycle of fiat currencies and believes that they are constrained to 83 years or so – at that point, the interest being paid on the currency goes exponential and the currency collapses under the weight of the accumulated debt (you are aware that we pay the private Federal Reserve corporation interest on the money that they create out of nothing, aren’t you?)
Add 83 years to your choice of these dates to see when the US dollar might ‘die’:
1913 founding of the private Federal Reserve corporation
1933 gold no longer legal for US citizens to own
1971 Nixon closes gold window
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the Amero, in concert with a North American union consisting of America, Canada and Mexico accomplishes several objectives of the one-world govt types:
– three currencies become one currency
– three countries become one country
– America gains extensive natural resources from Canada
– America gains a new source of cheap Mexican labor that can be exploited as they struggle for a middle class existence
– America gains lots of new citizens to taxDecember 20, 2008 at 7:54 AM #3186004plexownerParticipantthe Amero would be introduced as the solution to a “currency crisis” or “financial crisis”
classic hegelian dialectic – decide that you want to make a change or implement something new, create a crisis, present your change or program as the solution to the crisis that you created
the real benefit of the Amero would be to sever all ties to the US dollar and debts denominated in US dollars – wipe the slate clean, so to speak (remember we are talking about a scenario where the US dollar has ‘collapsed’ and all faith in the US dollar has been lost)
the history of fiat currencies is consistent – none of them have survived long term – to think that the US dollar will somehow survive long term is naive IMO
George Ure (www. urbansurvival.com) has studied the lifecycle of fiat currencies and believes that they are constrained to 83 years or so – at that point, the interest being paid on the currency goes exponential and the currency collapses under the weight of the accumulated debt (you are aware that we pay the private Federal Reserve corporation interest on the money that they create out of nothing, aren’t you?)
Add 83 years to your choice of these dates to see when the US dollar might ‘die’:
1913 founding of the private Federal Reserve corporation
1933 gold no longer legal for US citizens to own
1971 Nixon closes gold window
~
the Amero, in concert with a North American union consisting of America, Canada and Mexico accomplishes several objectives of the one-world govt types:
– three currencies become one currency
– three countries become one country
– America gains extensive natural resources from Canada
– America gains a new source of cheap Mexican labor that can be exploited as they struggle for a middle class existence
– America gains lots of new citizens to taxDecember 20, 2008 at 7:54 AM #3187424plexownerParticipantthe Amero would be introduced as the solution to a “currency crisis” or “financial crisis”
classic hegelian dialectic – decide that you want to make a change or implement something new, create a crisis, present your change or program as the solution to the crisis that you created
the real benefit of the Amero would be to sever all ties to the US dollar and debts denominated in US dollars – wipe the slate clean, so to speak (remember we are talking about a scenario where the US dollar has ‘collapsed’ and all faith in the US dollar has been lost)
the history of fiat currencies is consistent – none of them have survived long term – to think that the US dollar will somehow survive long term is naive IMO
George Ure (www. urbansurvival.com) has studied the lifecycle of fiat currencies and believes that they are constrained to 83 years or so – at that point, the interest being paid on the currency goes exponential and the currency collapses under the weight of the accumulated debt (you are aware that we pay the private Federal Reserve corporation interest on the money that they create out of nothing, aren’t you?)
Add 83 years to your choice of these dates to see when the US dollar might ‘die’:
1913 founding of the private Federal Reserve corporation
1933 gold no longer legal for US citizens to own
1971 Nixon closes gold window
~
the Amero, in concert with a North American union consisting of America, Canada and Mexico accomplishes several objectives of the one-world govt types:
– three currencies become one currency
– three countries become one country
– America gains extensive natural resources from Canada
– America gains a new source of cheap Mexican labor that can be exploited as they struggle for a middle class existence
– America gains lots of new citizens to taxDecember 20, 2008 at 7:54 AM #3186454plexownerParticipantthe Amero would be introduced as the solution to a “currency crisis” or “financial crisis”
classic hegelian dialectic – decide that you want to make a change or implement something new, create a crisis, present your change or program as the solution to the crisis that you created
the real benefit of the Amero would be to sever all ties to the US dollar and debts denominated in US dollars – wipe the slate clean, so to speak (remember we are talking about a scenario where the US dollar has ‘collapsed’ and all faith in the US dollar has been lost)
the history of fiat currencies is consistent – none of them have survived long term – to think that the US dollar will somehow survive long term is naive IMO
George Ure (www. urbansurvival.com) has studied the lifecycle of fiat currencies and believes that they are constrained to 83 years or so – at that point, the interest being paid on the currency goes exponential and the currency collapses under the weight of the accumulated debt (you are aware that we pay the private Federal Reserve corporation interest on the money that they create out of nothing, aren’t you?)
Add 83 years to your choice of these dates to see when the US dollar might ‘die’:
1913 founding of the private Federal Reserve corporation
1933 gold no longer legal for US citizens to own
1971 Nixon closes gold window
~
the Amero, in concert with a North American union consisting of America, Canada and Mexico accomplishes several objectives of the one-world govt types:
– three currencies become one currency
– three countries become one country
– America gains extensive natural resources from Canada
– America gains a new source of cheap Mexican labor that can be exploited as they struggle for a middle class existence
– America gains lots of new citizens to taxDecember 20, 2008 at 7:54 AM #3186634plexownerParticipantthe Amero would be introduced as the solution to a “currency crisis” or “financial crisis”
classic hegelian dialectic – decide that you want to make a change or implement something new, create a crisis, present your change or program as the solution to the crisis that you created
the real benefit of the Amero would be to sever all ties to the US dollar and debts denominated in US dollars – wipe the slate clean, so to speak (remember we are talking about a scenario where the US dollar has ‘collapsed’ and all faith in the US dollar has been lost)
the history of fiat currencies is consistent – none of them have survived long term – to think that the US dollar will somehow survive long term is naive IMO
George Ure (www. urbansurvival.com) has studied the lifecycle of fiat currencies and believes that they are constrained to 83 years or so – at that point, the interest being paid on the currency goes exponential and the currency collapses under the weight of the accumulated debt (you are aware that we pay the private Federal Reserve corporation interest on the money that they create out of nothing, aren’t you?)
Add 83 years to your choice of these dates to see when the US dollar might ‘die’:
1913 founding of the private Federal Reserve corporation
1933 gold no longer legal for US citizens to own
1971 Nixon closes gold window
~
the Amero, in concert with a North American union consisting of America, Canada and Mexico accomplishes several objectives of the one-world govt types:
– three currencies become one currency
– three countries become one country
– America gains extensive natural resources from Canada
– America gains a new source of cheap Mexican labor that can be exploited as they struggle for a middle class existence
– America gains lots of new citizens to taxDecember 20, 2008 at 8:41 AM #318747ArrayaParticipantHere is what the head economist of the CFR said. You know the Council on Foreign relations, the group that every major politician is a member of?
http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20070501faessay86308-p30/benn-steil/the-end-of-national-currency.html
The political mythology associating the creation and control of money with national sovereignty finds its economic counterpart in the metamorphosis of the famous theory of “optimum currency areas” (OCA). Fathered in 1961 by Robert Mundell, a Nobel Prize-winning economist who has long been a prolific advocate of shrinking the number of national currencies, it became over the subsequent decades a quasi-scientific foundation for monetary nationalism.
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But the dollar’s privileged status as today’s global money is not heaven-bestowed. The dollar is ultimately just another money supported only by faith that others will willingly accept it in the future in return for the same sort of valuable things it bought in the past. This puts a great burden on the institutions of the U.S. government to validate that faith. And those institutions, unfortunately, are failing to shoulder that burden. Reckless U.S. fiscal policy is undermining the dollar’s position even as the currency’s role as a global money is expanding
He is making a case that nations should not control their money and the need to reduce the number of currencies. Also, that the US has been abusing it’s privilege in having the worlds reserve currency. This has also been echoed by Sarkozy From france, several Chinese economists and the UN in the past few months.
December 20, 2008 at 8:41 AM #318668ArrayaParticipantHere is what the head economist of the CFR said. You know the Council on Foreign relations, the group that every major politician is a member of?
http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20070501faessay86308-p30/benn-steil/the-end-of-national-currency.html
The political mythology associating the creation and control of money with national sovereignty finds its economic counterpart in the metamorphosis of the famous theory of “optimum currency areas” (OCA). Fathered in 1961 by Robert Mundell, a Nobel Prize-winning economist who has long been a prolific advocate of shrinking the number of national currencies, it became over the subsequent decades a quasi-scientific foundation for monetary nationalism.
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But the dollar’s privileged status as today’s global money is not heaven-bestowed. The dollar is ultimately just another money supported only by faith that others will willingly accept it in the future in return for the same sort of valuable things it bought in the past. This puts a great burden on the institutions of the U.S. government to validate that faith. And those institutions, unfortunately, are failing to shoulder that burden. Reckless U.S. fiscal policy is undermining the dollar’s position even as the currency’s role as a global money is expanding
He is making a case that nations should not control their money and the need to reduce the number of currencies. Also, that the US has been abusing it’s privilege in having the worlds reserve currency. This has also been echoed by Sarkozy From france, several Chinese economists and the UN in the past few months.
December 20, 2008 at 8:41 AM #318650ArrayaParticipantHere is what the head economist of the CFR said. You know the Council on Foreign relations, the group that every major politician is a member of?
http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20070501faessay86308-p30/benn-steil/the-end-of-national-currency.html
The political mythology associating the creation and control of money with national sovereignty finds its economic counterpart in the metamorphosis of the famous theory of “optimum currency areas” (OCA). Fathered in 1961 by Robert Mundell, a Nobel Prize-winning economist who has long been a prolific advocate of shrinking the number of national currencies, it became over the subsequent decades a quasi-scientific foundation for monetary nationalism.
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But the dollar’s privileged status as today’s global money is not heaven-bestowed. The dollar is ultimately just another money supported only by faith that others will willingly accept it in the future in return for the same sort of valuable things it bought in the past. This puts a great burden on the institutions of the U.S. government to validate that faith. And those institutions, unfortunately, are failing to shoulder that burden. Reckless U.S. fiscal policy is undermining the dollar’s position even as the currency’s role as a global money is expanding
He is making a case that nations should not control their money and the need to reduce the number of currencies. Also, that the US has been abusing it’s privilege in having the worlds reserve currency. This has also been echoed by Sarkozy From france, several Chinese economists and the UN in the past few months.
December 20, 2008 at 8:41 AM #318605ArrayaParticipantHere is what the head economist of the CFR said. You know the Council on Foreign relations, the group that every major politician is a member of?
http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20070501faessay86308-p30/benn-steil/the-end-of-national-currency.html
The political mythology associating the creation and control of money with national sovereignty finds its economic counterpart in the metamorphosis of the famous theory of “optimum currency areas” (OCA). Fathered in 1961 by Robert Mundell, a Nobel Prize-winning economist who has long been a prolific advocate of shrinking the number of national currencies, it became over the subsequent decades a quasi-scientific foundation for monetary nationalism.
snip
But the dollar’s privileged status as today’s global money is not heaven-bestowed. The dollar is ultimately just another money supported only by faith that others will willingly accept it in the future in return for the same sort of valuable things it bought in the past. This puts a great burden on the institutions of the U.S. government to validate that faith. And those institutions, unfortunately, are failing to shoulder that burden. Reckless U.S. fiscal policy is undermining the dollar’s position even as the currency’s role as a global money is expanding
He is making a case that nations should not control their money and the need to reduce the number of currencies. Also, that the US has been abusing it’s privilege in having the worlds reserve currency. This has also been echoed by Sarkozy From france, several Chinese economists and the UN in the past few months.
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