Advice on 5bdrms in Carmel Country Highlands

[Scarlett]

How about this one in La Jolla? To me this seems to be worth much more than the ones in BR in CV, for someone working in UCSD.

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100061819-8443_Cliffridge_Ln_La_Jolla_CA_92037

It’s hard to find a 5 bdr there but there it is. SDL doesn’t list any HOA. So I don’t know about that part.
[quote=bearishgurl][quote=Scarlett]What about La Jolla?
If you rethink your requirements – just 4 bedrooms but spacious ones – La Jolla IS the most convenient in terms of commute (or as good as Torrey Hills). Schools are excellent. If money is no object, there are some nice houses around La Jolla SCENIC Drive – that where my UCSD ex-boss (faculty) lived – and the commute is really sweet. Torrey Pines elementary had the highest API in 2010 in SDUSD. Even more towards Mt. Soledad and downtown La Jolla are not that far from UCSD and you commute on city streets.[/quote]

I thought about this, too, Scarlett, and realize that it would take virtually no time at all to reach the SW end of the UCSD campus from this location.

I also took into account how much the OP stated they were considering paying for a *new* SFR out in the stix with 30-40 yrs Mello Roos bonds and no guaranteed elem school attendance areas. I’ve hiked along LJ Scenic several times, in the “parklike” center median. But as I recall, isn’t most of that area, although SFRs, part of HOA(s)?? I recall a lot of one-story SFRs between 1800 – 2500 sf up there. I haven’t checked, but are there any good listings for the OP’s needs and price range up there or even around the YMCA, little league field or TP Elem across the St?

yellowS2K, are you aware that Torrey Pines Elem, Muirlands Middle/LJ High are among the VERY BEST public schools in the entire county??[/quote]

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Scarlett]How about this one in La Jolla? To me this seems to be worth much more than the ones in BR in CV, for someone working in UCSD.

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100061819-8443_Cliffridge_Ln_La_Jolla_CA_92037

It’s hard to find a 5 bdr there but there it is. SDL doesn’t list any HOA. So I don’t know about that part.[/quote]

WOW, that link is gorgeous, kid-friendly AND expensive, but BEST OF ALL, just around the corner from TPES! If the OP and his spouse can go over $1M, this area is an AWESOME enclave to raise kids in. My youngest went to baseball camp up there at little-league for a couple summers and I loved the ambiance and the “woods” in the middle of the street! Good work, Scarlett!

Thinking back, I am now of the mind that the HOA tract(s) may have been situated on the EAST side of LJ Scenic Dr.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Scarlett]How about this one in La Jolla? To me this seems to be worth much more than the ones in BR in CV, for someone working in UCSD.

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100061819-8443_Cliffridge_Ln_La_Jolla_CA_92037

It’s hard to find a 5 bdr there but there it is. SDL doesn’t list any HOA. So I don’t know about that part.[/quote]

WOW, that link is gorgeous, kid-friendly AND expensive, but BEST OF ALL, just around the corner from TPES! If the OP and his spouse can go over $1M, this area is an AWESOME enclave to raise kids in. My youngest went to baseball camp up there at little-league for a couple summers and I loved the ambiance and the “woods” in the middle of the street! Good work, Scarlett!

Thinking back, I am now of the mind that the HOA tract(s) may have been situated on the EAST side of LJ Scenic Dr.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Scarlett]How about this one in La Jolla? To me this seems to be worth much more than the ones in BR in CV, for someone working in UCSD.

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100061819-8443_Cliffridge_Ln_La_Jolla_CA_92037

It’s hard to find a 5 bdr there but there it is. SDL doesn’t list any HOA. So I don’t know about that part.[/quote]

WOW, that link is gorgeous, kid-friendly AND expensive, but BEST OF ALL, just around the corner from TPES! If the OP and his spouse can go over $1M, this area is an AWESOME enclave to raise kids in. My youngest went to baseball camp up there at little-league for a couple summers and I loved the ambiance and the “woods” in the middle of the street! Good work, Scarlett!

Thinking back, I am now of the mind that the HOA tract(s) may have been situated on the EAST side of LJ Scenic Dr.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Scarlett]How about this one in La Jolla? To me this seems to be worth much more than the ones in BR in CV, for someone working in UCSD.

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100061819-8443_Cliffridge_Ln_La_Jolla_CA_92037

It’s hard to find a 5 bdr there but there it is. SDL doesn’t list any HOA. So I don’t know about that part.[/quote]

WOW, that link is gorgeous, kid-friendly AND expensive, but BEST OF ALL, just around the corner from TPES! If the OP and his spouse can go over $1M, this area is an AWESOME enclave to raise kids in. My youngest went to baseball camp up there at little-league for a couple summers and I loved the ambiance and the “woods” in the middle of the street! Good work, Scarlett!

Thinking back, I am now of the mind that the HOA tract(s) may have been situated on the EAST side of LJ Scenic Dr.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Scarlett]How about this one in La Jolla? To me this seems to be worth much more than the ones in BR in CV, for someone working in UCSD.

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100061819-8443_Cliffridge_Ln_La_Jolla_CA_92037

It’s hard to find a 5 bdr there but there it is. SDL doesn’t list any HOA. So I don’t know about that part.[/quote]

WOW, that link is gorgeous, kid-friendly AND expensive, but BEST OF ALL, just around the corner from TPES! If the OP and his spouse can go over $1M, this area is an AWESOME enclave to raise kids in. My youngest went to baseball camp up there at little-league for a couple summers and I loved the ambiance and the “woods” in the middle of the street! Good work, Scarlett!

Thinking back, I am now of the mind that the HOA tract(s) may have been situated on the EAST side of LJ Scenic Dr.

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=AN]BG, this must be the first time I’ve heard anyone call Carmel Valley (especially the West side) “out in the stix”.[/quote]

AN, I know its on the “NE side” of Carmel Valley, but I just can’t get McGonigle Canyon out of my mind. What went on there spanned 25-30 years and just defied the City’s resources to deal with it. Even though the problem is “all but eradicated” now, I fail to see how all these “sandwiched-in developments” aka “urban sprawl” on the canyon rims are worth their asking prices unless buyers are accepting that these tracts are just “comping themselves” to perpetuate their own “values.”

http://www.break.com/usercontent/2007/7/16/mcgonigle-canyon-illegal-alien-camp-332258

Aside from its “sordid history of land use,” I just fail to see the “draw” here, considering some of these inland tracts are completely freeway bound and utterly at its mercy.[/quote]
What you said here is like me saying I can’t believe people spend over $500k (with many homes over $1M) to live in an area that such high crime statistic: http://www.clrsearch.com/Bonita_Demographics/CA/91902/Crime_Statistics.

A little comparison to get frame of reference:
http://www.clrsearch.com/Bonita_Demographics/CA/91902/Crime_Statistics?compare=92130

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=AN]BG, this must be the first time I’ve heard anyone call Carmel Valley (especially the West side) “out in the stix”.[/quote]

AN, I know its on the “NE side” of Carmel Valley, but I just can’t get McGonigle Canyon out of my mind. What went on there spanned 25-30 years and just defied the City’s resources to deal with it. Even though the problem is “all but eradicated” now, I fail to see how all these “sandwiched-in developments” aka “urban sprawl” on the canyon rims are worth their asking prices unless buyers are accepting that these tracts are just “comping themselves” to perpetuate their own “values.”

http://www.break.com/usercontent/2007/7/16/mcgonigle-canyon-illegal-alien-camp-332258

Aside from its “sordid history of land use,” I just fail to see the “draw” here, considering some of these inland tracts are completely freeway bound and utterly at its mercy.[/quote]
What you said here is like me saying I can’t believe people spend over $500k (with many homes over $1M) to live in an area that such high crime statistic: http://www.clrsearch.com/Bonita_Demographics/CA/91902/Crime_Statistics.

A little comparison to get frame of reference:
http://www.clrsearch.com/Bonita_Demographics/CA/91902/Crime_Statistics?compare=92130

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=AN]BG, this must be the first time I’ve heard anyone call Carmel Valley (especially the West side) “out in the stix”.[/quote]

AN, I know its on the “NE side” of Carmel Valley, but I just can’t get McGonigle Canyon out of my mind. What went on there spanned 25-30 years and just defied the City’s resources to deal with it. Even though the problem is “all but eradicated” now, I fail to see how all these “sandwiched-in developments” aka “urban sprawl” on the canyon rims are worth their asking prices unless buyers are accepting that these tracts are just “comping themselves” to perpetuate their own “values.”

http://www.break.com/usercontent/2007/7/16/mcgonigle-canyon-illegal-alien-camp-332258

Aside from its “sordid history of land use,” I just fail to see the “draw” here, considering some of these inland tracts are completely freeway bound and utterly at its mercy.[/quote]
What you said here is like me saying I can’t believe people spend over $500k (with many homes over $1M) to live in an area that such high crime statistic: http://www.clrsearch.com/Bonita_Demographics/CA/91902/Crime_Statistics.

A little comparison to get frame of reference:
http://www.clrsearch.com/Bonita_Demographics/CA/91902/Crime_Statistics?compare=92130

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=AN]BG, this must be the first time I’ve heard anyone call Carmel Valley (especially the West side) “out in the stix”.[/quote]

AN, I know its on the “NE side” of Carmel Valley, but I just can’t get McGonigle Canyon out of my mind. What went on there spanned 25-30 years and just defied the City’s resources to deal with it. Even though the problem is “all but eradicated” now, I fail to see how all these “sandwiched-in developments” aka “urban sprawl” on the canyon rims are worth their asking prices unless buyers are accepting that these tracts are just “comping themselves” to perpetuate their own “values.”

http://www.break.com/usercontent/2007/7/16/mcgonigle-canyon-illegal-alien-camp-332258

Aside from its “sordid history of land use,” I just fail to see the “draw” here, considering some of these inland tracts are completely freeway bound and utterly at its mercy.[/quote]
What you said here is like me saying I can’t believe people spend over $500k (with many homes over $1M) to live in an area that such high crime statistic: http://www.clrsearch.com/Bonita_Demographics/CA/91902/Crime_Statistics.

A little comparison to get frame of reference:
http://www.clrsearch.com/Bonita_Demographics/CA/91902/Crime_Statistics?compare=92130

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=AN]BG, this must be the first time I’ve heard anyone call Carmel Valley (especially the West side) “out in the stix”.[/quote]

AN, I know its on the “NE side” of Carmel Valley, but I just can’t get McGonigle Canyon out of my mind. What went on there spanned 25-30 years and just defied the City’s resources to deal with it. Even though the problem is “all but eradicated” now, I fail to see how all these “sandwiched-in developments” aka “urban sprawl” on the canyon rims are worth their asking prices unless buyers are accepting that these tracts are just “comping themselves” to perpetuate their own “values.”

http://www.break.com/usercontent/2007/7/16/mcgonigle-canyon-illegal-alien-camp-332258

Aside from its “sordid history of land use,” I just fail to see the “draw” here, considering some of these inland tracts are completely freeway bound and utterly at its mercy.[/quote]
What you said here is like me saying I can’t believe people spend over $500k (with many homes over $1M) to live in an area that such high crime statistic: http://www.clrsearch.com/Bonita_Demographics/CA/91902/Crime_Statistics.

A little comparison to get frame of reference:
http://www.clrsearch.com/Bonita_Demographics/CA/91902/Crime_Statistics?compare=92130

[yellowS2K]

[quote=Scarlett]How about this one in La Jolla? To me this seems to be worth much more than the ones in BR in CV, for someone working in UCSD.

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100061819-8443_Cliffridge_Ln_La_Jolla_CA_92037

It’s hard to find a 5 bdr there but there it is. SDL doesn’t list any HOA. So I don’t know about that part.
[quote=bearishgurl][quote=Scarlett]What about La Jolla?
If you rethink your requirements – just 4 bedrooms but spacious ones – La Jolla IS the most convenient in terms of commute (or as good as Torrey Hills). Schools are excellent. If money is no object, there are some nice houses around La Jolla SCENIC Drive – that where my UCSD ex-boss (faculty) lived – and the commute is really sweet. Torrey Pines elementary had the highest API in 2010 in SDUSD. Even more towards Mt. Soledad and downtown La Jolla are not that far from UCSD and you commute on city streets.[/quote]

I thought about this, too, Scarlett, and realize that it would take virtually no time at all to reach the SW end of the UCSD campus from this location.

I also took into account how much the OP stated they were considering paying for a *new* SFR out in the stix with 30-40 yrs Mello Roos bonds and no guaranteed elem school attendance areas. I’ve hiked along LJ Scenic several times, in the “parklike” center median. But as I recall, isn’t most of that area, although SFRs, part of HOA(s)?? I recall a lot of one-story SFRs between 1800 – 2500 sf up there. I haven’t checked, but are there any good listings for the OP’s needs and price range up there or even around the YMCA, little league field or TP Elem across the St?

yellowS2K, are you aware that Torrey Pines Elem, Muirlands Middle/LJ High are among the VERY BEST public schools in the entire county??[/quote][/quote]

We looked at some listings there near the Torrey Pines Elem and the YMCA – they would be great to live near, but the $1.45m is $450-$500K more than what we were looking at in the CV-CCH area near Sage and Ocean Air. There are $1.5 listings up there too (e.g., one in Derby Hills right next to Ocean Air), but also a number of 5bdrms listed (existing stuff and the Pardee Bridle Ridge stuff) from high $900K to $1.1. To go as high as $1.45m – don’t know if we’d be comfortable doing that. Suppose we could always low-ball them and see what happens, but I doubt the market in LJ is that soft. We’ve actually kept an eye on the LJS area for awhile – stuff that comes on the market there at $1m seems to always come with an opening line in the description of “Bring your architect…” and it’s a 1950s-era beach cottage that’s barely been remodeled since it was first built. If we could buy there, though, wife would get a Segway to commute to work (seriously, she would). There was one (http://www.redfin.com/CA/La-Jolla/8322-Sugarman-Dr-92037/home/4881369) that just showed up as sold for $1.112m, so maybe it’s within reach. We missed this as it went from listed (Nov 15) to pending (Dec 6) and we found about about the job for sure a day or two later, and no way we could have acted fast enough even if we had seen it.

[yellowS2K]

[quote=Scarlett]How about this one in La Jolla? To me this seems to be worth much more than the ones in BR in CV, for someone working in UCSD.

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100061819-8443_Cliffridge_Ln_La_Jolla_CA_92037

It’s hard to find a 5 bdr there but there it is. SDL doesn’t list any HOA. So I don’t know about that part.
[quote=bearishgurl][quote=Scarlett]What about La Jolla?
If you rethink your requirements – just 4 bedrooms but spacious ones – La Jolla IS the most convenient in terms of commute (or as good as Torrey Hills). Schools are excellent. If money is no object, there are some nice houses around La Jolla SCENIC Drive – that where my UCSD ex-boss (faculty) lived – and the commute is really sweet. Torrey Pines elementary had the highest API in 2010 in SDUSD. Even more towards Mt. Soledad and downtown La Jolla are not that far from UCSD and you commute on city streets.[/quote]

I thought about this, too, Scarlett, and realize that it would take virtually no time at all to reach the SW end of the UCSD campus from this location.

I also took into account how much the OP stated they were considering paying for a *new* SFR out in the stix with 30-40 yrs Mello Roos bonds and no guaranteed elem school attendance areas. I’ve hiked along LJ Scenic several times, in the “parklike” center median. But as I recall, isn’t most of that area, although SFRs, part of HOA(s)?? I recall a lot of one-story SFRs between 1800 – 2500 sf up there. I haven’t checked, but are there any good listings for the OP’s needs and price range up there or even around the YMCA, little league field or TP Elem across the St?

yellowS2K, are you aware that Torrey Pines Elem, Muirlands Middle/LJ High are among the VERY BEST public schools in the entire county??[/quote][/quote]

We looked at some listings there near the Torrey Pines Elem and the YMCA – they would be great to live near, but the $1.45m is $450-$500K more than what we were looking at in the CV-CCH area near Sage and Ocean Air. There are $1.5 listings up there too (e.g., one in Derby Hills right next to Ocean Air), but also a number of 5bdrms listed (existing stuff and the Pardee Bridle Ridge stuff) from high $900K to $1.1. To go as high as $1.45m – don’t know if we’d be comfortable doing that. Suppose we could always low-ball them and see what happens, but I doubt the market in LJ is that soft. We’ve actually kept an eye on the LJS area for awhile – stuff that comes on the market there at $1m seems to always come with an opening line in the description of “Bring your architect…” and it’s a 1950s-era beach cottage that’s barely been remodeled since it was first built. If we could buy there, though, wife would get a Segway to commute to work (seriously, she would). There was one (http://www.redfin.com/CA/La-Jolla/8322-Sugarman-Dr-92037/home/4881369) that just showed up as sold for $1.112m, so maybe it’s within reach. We missed this as it went from listed (Nov 15) to pending (Dec 6) and we found about about the job for sure a day or two later, and no way we could have acted fast enough even if we had seen it.

[yellowS2K]

[quote=Scarlett]How about this one in La Jolla? To me this seems to be worth much more than the ones in BR in CV, for someone working in UCSD.

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100061819-8443_Cliffridge_Ln_La_Jolla_CA_92037

It’s hard to find a 5 bdr there but there it is. SDL doesn’t list any HOA. So I don’t know about that part.
[quote=bearishgurl][quote=Scarlett]What about La Jolla?
If you rethink your requirements – just 4 bedrooms but spacious ones – La Jolla IS the most convenient in terms of commute (or as good as Torrey Hills). Schools are excellent. If money is no object, there are some nice houses around La Jolla SCENIC Drive – that where my UCSD ex-boss (faculty) lived – and the commute is really sweet. Torrey Pines elementary had the highest API in 2010 in SDUSD. Even more towards Mt. Soledad and downtown La Jolla are not that far from UCSD and you commute on city streets.[/quote]

I thought about this, too, Scarlett, and realize that it would take virtually no time at all to reach the SW end of the UCSD campus from this location.

I also took into account how much the OP stated they were considering paying for a *new* SFR out in the stix with 30-40 yrs Mello Roos bonds and no guaranteed elem school attendance areas. I’ve hiked along LJ Scenic several times, in the “parklike” center median. But as I recall, isn’t most of that area, although SFRs, part of HOA(s)?? I recall a lot of one-story SFRs between 1800 – 2500 sf up there. I haven’t checked, but are there any good listings for the OP’s needs and price range up there or even around the YMCA, little league field or TP Elem across the St?

yellowS2K, are you aware that Torrey Pines Elem, Muirlands Middle/LJ High are among the VERY BEST public schools in the entire county??[/quote][/quote]

We looked at some listings there near the Torrey Pines Elem and the YMCA – they would be great to live near, but the $1.45m is $450-$500K more than what we were looking at in the CV-CCH area near Sage and Ocean Air. There are $1.5 listings up there too (e.g., one in Derby Hills right next to Ocean Air), but also a number of 5bdrms listed (existing stuff and the Pardee Bridle Ridge stuff) from high $900K to $1.1. To go as high as $1.45m – don’t know if we’d be comfortable doing that. Suppose we could always low-ball them and see what happens, but I doubt the market in LJ is that soft. We’ve actually kept an eye on the LJS area for awhile – stuff that comes on the market there at $1m seems to always come with an opening line in the description of “Bring your architect…” and it’s a 1950s-era beach cottage that’s barely been remodeled since it was first built. If we could buy there, though, wife would get a Segway to commute to work (seriously, she would). There was one (http://www.redfin.com/CA/La-Jolla/8322-Sugarman-Dr-92037/home/4881369) that just showed up as sold for $1.112m, so maybe it’s within reach. We missed this as it went from listed (Nov 15) to pending (Dec 6) and we found about about the job for sure a day or two later, and no way we could have acted fast enough even if we had seen it.

[yellowS2K]

[quote=Scarlett]How about this one in La Jolla? To me this seems to be worth much more than the ones in BR in CV, for someone working in UCSD.

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100061819-8443_Cliffridge_Ln_La_Jolla_CA_92037

It’s hard to find a 5 bdr there but there it is. SDL doesn’t list any HOA. So I don’t know about that part.
[quote=bearishgurl][quote=Scarlett]What about La Jolla?
If you rethink your requirements – just 4 bedrooms but spacious ones – La Jolla IS the most convenient in terms of commute (or as good as Torrey Hills). Schools are excellent. If money is no object, there are some nice houses around La Jolla SCENIC Drive – that where my UCSD ex-boss (faculty) lived – and the commute is really sweet. Torrey Pines elementary had the highest API in 2010 in SDUSD. Even more towards Mt. Soledad and downtown La Jolla are not that far from UCSD and you commute on city streets.[/quote]

I thought about this, too, Scarlett, and realize that it would take virtually no time at all to reach the SW end of the UCSD campus from this location.

I also took into account how much the OP stated they were considering paying for a *new* SFR out in the stix with 30-40 yrs Mello Roos bonds and no guaranteed elem school attendance areas. I’ve hiked along LJ Scenic several times, in the “parklike” center median. But as I recall, isn’t most of that area, although SFRs, part of HOA(s)?? I recall a lot of one-story SFRs between 1800 – 2500 sf up there. I haven’t checked, but are there any good listings for the OP’s needs and price range up there or even around the YMCA, little league field or TP Elem across the St?

yellowS2K, are you aware that Torrey Pines Elem, Muirlands Middle/LJ High are among the VERY BEST public schools in the entire county??[/quote][/quote]

We looked at some listings there near the Torrey Pines Elem and the YMCA – they would be great to live near, but the $1.45m is $450-$500K more than what we were looking at in the CV-CCH area near Sage and Ocean Air. There are $1.5 listings up there too (e.g., one in Derby Hills right next to Ocean Air), but also a number of 5bdrms listed (existing stuff and the Pardee Bridle Ridge stuff) from high $900K to $1.1. To go as high as $1.45m – don’t know if we’d be comfortable doing that. Suppose we could always low-ball them and see what happens, but I doubt the market in LJ is that soft. We’ve actually kept an eye on the LJS area for awhile – stuff that comes on the market there at $1m seems to always come with an opening line in the description of “Bring your architect…” and it’s a 1950s-era beach cottage that’s barely been remodeled since it was first built. If we could buy there, though, wife would get a Segway to commute to work (seriously, she would). There was one (http://www.redfin.com/CA/La-Jolla/8322-Sugarman-Dr-92037/home/4881369) that just showed up as sold for $1.112m, so maybe it’s within reach. We missed this as it went from listed (Nov 15) to pending (Dec 6) and we found about about the job for sure a day or two later, and no way we could have acted fast enough even if we had seen it.

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