$7 gasoline in the near future???

[cooperthedog]

Its ironic and not a little hypocritical to chastise those that wish for higher oil/gas prices to bring about needed change.

Most on this board cheered the housing crash which has caused alot of misery and pain for those directly affected by it and indirectly via a weaker economy. In addition, many who wished for a rapid decline in housing, to purge the system, did so in self-interest, allowing them to eventually buy an affordable house, regardless of the overall impact to the economy & society.

I do not see much difference between housing bears and those that wish to see oil increase, or the stock market fall.

As for oil, in my opinion, I would like to see a massive, albeit temporary spike in prices. Even at these levels (140+), our leaders aren’t taking action (congress just let the alt. energy subsidies expire, & many politicians want to drill to solve the problem). We need a true wakeup call to force some change now, before its too late. A little pain now will be better than a true collapse later.

[TheBreeze]

Good post Cooper. I find it funny that both AN and FLU claim to be conservatives, and yet they both seem to want government to step in an “fix” the price of oil.

They can’t seem to make up their mind. They each want the freedom to drive huge land yachts and fly up to the Bay area whenever fancy strikes them but they don’t want to pay for it. Kind of like the Iraq War – they each want some other generation of taxpayers to pay for it even though a President they each voted for started it.

As for me, I talk the talk, but I also walk the walk. I probably have a smaller carbon foot print than 80% to 90% of the population. I drive a very fuel efficient car, I live close to where I work, I rent a modest place, and I only fly if my job requires it (which happens very rarely.)

If everyone lived like me, gas would probably still be around $2/gallon. Meanwhile, FLU and AN are probably driving land yachts and flying around the country every weekend and then they want to try and blame me for fuel prices increasing. Like most faux conservatives, they are the epitomy of hypocrisy.

[TheBreeze]

Good post Cooper. I find it funny that both AN and FLU claim to be conservatives, and yet they both seem to want government to step in an “fix” the price of oil.

They can’t seem to make up their mind. They each want the freedom to drive huge land yachts and fly up to the Bay area whenever fancy strikes them but they don’t want to pay for it. Kind of like the Iraq War – they each want some other generation of taxpayers to pay for it even though a President they each voted for started it.

As for me, I talk the talk, but I also walk the walk. I probably have a smaller carbon foot print than 80% to 90% of the population. I drive a very fuel efficient car, I live close to where I work, I rent a modest place, and I only fly if my job requires it (which happens very rarely.)

If everyone lived like me, gas would probably still be around $2/gallon. Meanwhile, FLU and AN are probably driving land yachts and flying around the country every weekend and then they want to try and blame me for fuel prices increasing. Like most faux conservatives, they are the epitomy of hypocrisy.

[TheBreeze]

Good post Cooper. I find it funny that both AN and FLU claim to be conservatives, and yet they both seem to want government to step in an “fix” the price of oil.

They can’t seem to make up their mind. They each want the freedom to drive huge land yachts and fly up to the Bay area whenever fancy strikes them but they don’t want to pay for it. Kind of like the Iraq War – they each want some other generation of taxpayers to pay for it even though a President they each voted for started it.

As for me, I talk the talk, but I also walk the walk. I probably have a smaller carbon foot print than 80% to 90% of the population. I drive a very fuel efficient car, I live close to where I work, I rent a modest place, and I only fly if my job requires it (which happens very rarely.)

If everyone lived like me, gas would probably still be around $2/gallon. Meanwhile, FLU and AN are probably driving land yachts and flying around the country every weekend and then they want to try and blame me for fuel prices increasing. Like most faux conservatives, they are the epitomy of hypocrisy.

[TheBreeze]

Good post Cooper. I find it funny that both AN and FLU claim to be conservatives, and yet they both seem to want government to step in an “fix” the price of oil.

They can’t seem to make up their mind. They each want the freedom to drive huge land yachts and fly up to the Bay area whenever fancy strikes them but they don’t want to pay for it. Kind of like the Iraq War – they each want some other generation of taxpayers to pay for it even though a President they each voted for started it.

As for me, I talk the talk, but I also walk the walk. I probably have a smaller carbon foot print than 80% to 90% of the population. I drive a very fuel efficient car, I live close to where I work, I rent a modest place, and I only fly if my job requires it (which happens very rarely.)

If everyone lived like me, gas would probably still be around $2/gallon. Meanwhile, FLU and AN are probably driving land yachts and flying around the country every weekend and then they want to try and blame me for fuel prices increasing. Like most faux conservatives, they are the epitomy of hypocrisy.

[TheBreeze]

Good post Cooper. I find it funny that both AN and FLU claim to be conservatives, and yet they both seem to want government to step in an “fix” the price of oil.

They can’t seem to make up their mind. They each want the freedom to drive huge land yachts and fly up to the Bay area whenever fancy strikes them but they don’t want to pay for it. Kind of like the Iraq War – they each want some other generation of taxpayers to pay for it even though a President they each voted for started it.

As for me, I talk the talk, but I also walk the walk. I probably have a smaller carbon foot print than 80% to 90% of the population. I drive a very fuel efficient car, I live close to where I work, I rent a modest place, and I only fly if my job requires it (which happens very rarely.)

If everyone lived like me, gas would probably still be around $2/gallon. Meanwhile, FLU and AN are probably driving land yachts and flying around the country every weekend and then they want to try and blame me for fuel prices increasing. Like most faux conservatives, they are the epitomy of hypocrisy.

[an]

We cheered the housing crash because we wanted to return to affordable level so everyone can truly afford a home. Wanting oil/gas to go higher will make it unaffordable for everyone. Especially the poor. So I don’t see how they’re the same. Not everyone agree that we need a quick and drastic change. If everyone really wanted to change, why are they buying up these SUV for the longest time?

[quote=TheBreeze]Good post Cooper. I find it funny that both AN and FLU claim to be conservatives, and yet they both seem to want government to step in an “fix” the price of oil.
[/quote]
I don’t want the government to step in and fix anything. I want the government to step out, not in. I think you got your party ideal a little mixed up there. You’re the one who wanted government intervention in everything. I do not drive a SUV, but I don’t drive an appliance either. All I’m saying is be careful what you wish for. My carbon foot print and my spending is small enough to afford sky high gas price. But the majority of Americans can’t. You’re the one who wanted the government to step in and tax the rich more to help the poor, but then wanted sky high gas, which hurt the poor the most. A little ironic, don’t you think?

You preach about having small carbon foot print, but weren’t you the one who wanted to buy a McMansion in 4S? What do you consider as modest? I’m living in a 800 sq-ft apartment and looking for a 1200-1400 sq-ft house. Is that too extravagant for you? I also live w/in 3-4 miles from work. How about you?

[an]

We cheered the housing crash because we wanted to return to affordable level so everyone can truly afford a home. Wanting oil/gas to go higher will make it unaffordable for everyone. Especially the poor. So I don’t see how they’re the same. Not everyone agree that we need a quick and drastic change. If everyone really wanted to change, why are they buying up these SUV for the longest time?

[quote=TheBreeze]Good post Cooper. I find it funny that both AN and FLU claim to be conservatives, and yet they both seem to want government to step in an “fix” the price of oil.
[/quote]
I don’t want the government to step in and fix anything. I want the government to step out, not in. I think you got your party ideal a little mixed up there. You’re the one who wanted government intervention in everything. I do not drive a SUV, but I don’t drive an appliance either. All I’m saying is be careful what you wish for. My carbon foot print and my spending is small enough to afford sky high gas price. But the majority of Americans can’t. You’re the one who wanted the government to step in and tax the rich more to help the poor, but then wanted sky high gas, which hurt the poor the most. A little ironic, don’t you think?

You preach about having small carbon foot print, but weren’t you the one who wanted to buy a McMansion in 4S? What do you consider as modest? I’m living in a 800 sq-ft apartment and looking for a 1200-1400 sq-ft house. Is that too extravagant for you? I also live w/in 3-4 miles from work. How about you?

[an]

We cheered the housing crash because we wanted to return to affordable level so everyone can truly afford a home. Wanting oil/gas to go higher will make it unaffordable for everyone. Especially the poor. So I don’t see how they’re the same. Not everyone agree that we need a quick and drastic change. If everyone really wanted to change, why are they buying up these SUV for the longest time?

[quote=TheBreeze]Good post Cooper. I find it funny that both AN and FLU claim to be conservatives, and yet they both seem to want government to step in an “fix” the price of oil.
[/quote]
I don’t want the government to step in and fix anything. I want the government to step out, not in. I think you got your party ideal a little mixed up there. You’re the one who wanted government intervention in everything. I do not drive a SUV, but I don’t drive an appliance either. All I’m saying is be careful what you wish for. My carbon foot print and my spending is small enough to afford sky high gas price. But the majority of Americans can’t. You’re the one who wanted the government to step in and tax the rich more to help the poor, but then wanted sky high gas, which hurt the poor the most. A little ironic, don’t you think?

You preach about having small carbon foot print, but weren’t you the one who wanted to buy a McMansion in 4S? What do you consider as modest? I’m living in a 800 sq-ft apartment and looking for a 1200-1400 sq-ft house. Is that too extravagant for you? I also live w/in 3-4 miles from work. How about you?

[an]

We cheered the housing crash because we wanted to return to affordable level so everyone can truly afford a home. Wanting oil/gas to go higher will make it unaffordable for everyone. Especially the poor. So I don’t see how they’re the same. Not everyone agree that we need a quick and drastic change. If everyone really wanted to change, why are they buying up these SUV for the longest time?

[quote=TheBreeze]Good post Cooper. I find it funny that both AN and FLU claim to be conservatives, and yet they both seem to want government to step in an “fix” the price of oil.
[/quote]
I don’t want the government to step in and fix anything. I want the government to step out, not in. I think you got your party ideal a little mixed up there. You’re the one who wanted government intervention in everything. I do not drive a SUV, but I don’t drive an appliance either. All I’m saying is be careful what you wish for. My carbon foot print and my spending is small enough to afford sky high gas price. But the majority of Americans can’t. You’re the one who wanted the government to step in and tax the rich more to help the poor, but then wanted sky high gas, which hurt the poor the most. A little ironic, don’t you think?

You preach about having small carbon foot print, but weren’t you the one who wanted to buy a McMansion in 4S? What do you consider as modest? I’m living in a 800 sq-ft apartment and looking for a 1200-1400 sq-ft house. Is that too extravagant for you? I also live w/in 3-4 miles from work. How about you?

[an]

We cheered the housing crash because we wanted to return to affordable level so everyone can truly afford a home. Wanting oil/gas to go higher will make it unaffordable for everyone. Especially the poor. So I don’t see how they’re the same. Not everyone agree that we need a quick and drastic change. If everyone really wanted to change, why are they buying up these SUV for the longest time?

[quote=TheBreeze]Good post Cooper. I find it funny that both AN and FLU claim to be conservatives, and yet they both seem to want government to step in an “fix” the price of oil.
[/quote]
I don’t want the government to step in and fix anything. I want the government to step out, not in. I think you got your party ideal a little mixed up there. You’re the one who wanted government intervention in everything. I do not drive a SUV, but I don’t drive an appliance either. All I’m saying is be careful what you wish for. My carbon foot print and my spending is small enough to afford sky high gas price. But the majority of Americans can’t. You’re the one who wanted the government to step in and tax the rich more to help the poor, but then wanted sky high gas, which hurt the poor the most. A little ironic, don’t you think?

You preach about having small carbon foot print, but weren’t you the one who wanted to buy a McMansion in 4S? What do you consider as modest? I’m living in a 800 sq-ft apartment and looking for a 1200-1400 sq-ft house. Is that too extravagant for you? I also live w/in 3-4 miles from work. How about you?

[Coronita]

[quote] Good post Cooper. I find it funny that both AN and FLU claim to be conservatives, and yet they both seem to want government to step in an “fix” the price of oil.

They can’t seem to make up their mind. They each want the freedom to drive huge land yachts and fly up to the Bay area whenever fancy strikes them but they don’t want to pay for it. Kind of like the Iraq War – they each want some other generation of taxpayers to pay for it even though a President they each voted for started it.

As for me, I talk the talk, but I also walk the walk. I probably have a smaller carbon foot print than 80% to 90% of the population. I drive a very fuel efficient car, I live close to where I work, I rent a modest place, and I only fly if my job requires it (which happens very rarely.)

If everyone lived like me, gas would probably still be around $2/gallon. Meanwhile, FLU and AN are probably driving land yachts and flying around the country every weekend and then they want to try and blame me for fuel prices increasing. Like most faux conservatives, they are the epitomy of hypocrisy.

[/quote]

Nope. Wrong again. I’m totally supportive of government not intervening. I’m against more drilling, and frankly, if I were to choose between the two, I’d prefer anarchist capitalism versus socialism.

That said, I don’t wish for $150/barrel, because like I said it’s pretty naive to thing it’s not somehow not going to impact you. But what I wish or what you wish frankly is irrelevant, because neither you our I control the markets, nor am I really supportive of any type of intervention, such as some dumb as proposal to have a tax on oil companies for being overly profitable, nor shall we have a summer relief on federal/state tax for fuel.

As far as high gas prices. Well, again, not everyone is created equal. Not everyone is entitled to afford to drive “land-yachts”. And if $10/gal gas hits not everyone is entitled to drive anything/everything. It’s all in perspective of one’s financial means.
I’m merely pointing out a measly engineer’s salary and engineer’s job isn’t exactly the income that one can boast “I’m going ot be immune for bigtime fuel hikes”.

But like I said, please keep the shithole you’re going to be in a lot sooner than others nice and warm for the rest of us, because again, looking at a shithole will definitely make you feel differently than once you’re in one.

Btw: you might get 50mpg in your prius, but I recall you live in CV and work in downtown. I might get 20mpg (24 if I really really drive like a pansy), but I drive 5 miles to work every day I don’t telecommute. And my sig other doesn’t even take the freeway and has a 10 min commute. So, again, let’s see who’s really gonna hurt with $7/gal or even $10/gal gas.

[Coronita]

[quote] Good post Cooper. I find it funny that both AN and FLU claim to be conservatives, and yet they both seem to want government to step in an “fix” the price of oil.

They can’t seem to make up their mind. They each want the freedom to drive huge land yachts and fly up to the Bay area whenever fancy strikes them but they don’t want to pay for it. Kind of like the Iraq War – they each want some other generation of taxpayers to pay for it even though a President they each voted for started it.

As for me, I talk the talk, but I also walk the walk. I probably have a smaller carbon foot print than 80% to 90% of the population. I drive a very fuel efficient car, I live close to where I work, I rent a modest place, and I only fly if my job requires it (which happens very rarely.)

If everyone lived like me, gas would probably still be around $2/gallon. Meanwhile, FLU and AN are probably driving land yachts and flying around the country every weekend and then they want to try and blame me for fuel prices increasing. Like most faux conservatives, they are the epitomy of hypocrisy.

[/quote]

Nope. Wrong again. I’m totally supportive of government not intervening. I’m against more drilling, and frankly, if I were to choose between the two, I’d prefer anarchist capitalism versus socialism.

That said, I don’t wish for $150/barrel, because like I said it’s pretty naive to thing it’s not somehow not going to impact you. But what I wish or what you wish frankly is irrelevant, because neither you our I control the markets, nor am I really supportive of any type of intervention, such as some dumb as proposal to have a tax on oil companies for being overly profitable, nor shall we have a summer relief on federal/state tax for fuel.

As far as high gas prices. Well, again, not everyone is created equal. Not everyone is entitled to afford to drive “land-yachts”. And if $10/gal gas hits not everyone is entitled to drive anything/everything. It’s all in perspective of one’s financial means.
I’m merely pointing out a measly engineer’s salary and engineer’s job isn’t exactly the income that one can boast “I’m going ot be immune for bigtime fuel hikes”.

But like I said, please keep the shithole you’re going to be in a lot sooner than others nice and warm for the rest of us, because again, looking at a shithole will definitely make you feel differently than once you’re in one.

Btw: you might get 50mpg in your prius, but I recall you live in CV and work in downtown. I might get 20mpg (24 if I really really drive like a pansy), but I drive 5 miles to work every day I don’t telecommute. And my sig other doesn’t even take the freeway and has a 10 min commute. So, again, let’s see who’s really gonna hurt with $7/gal or even $10/gal gas.

[Coronita]

[quote] Good post Cooper. I find it funny that both AN and FLU claim to be conservatives, and yet they both seem to want government to step in an “fix” the price of oil.

They can’t seem to make up their mind. They each want the freedom to drive huge land yachts and fly up to the Bay area whenever fancy strikes them but they don’t want to pay for it. Kind of like the Iraq War – they each want some other generation of taxpayers to pay for it even though a President they each voted for started it.

As for me, I talk the talk, but I also walk the walk. I probably have a smaller carbon foot print than 80% to 90% of the population. I drive a very fuel efficient car, I live close to where I work, I rent a modest place, and I only fly if my job requires it (which happens very rarely.)

If everyone lived like me, gas would probably still be around $2/gallon. Meanwhile, FLU and AN are probably driving land yachts and flying around the country every weekend and then they want to try and blame me for fuel prices increasing. Like most faux conservatives, they are the epitomy of hypocrisy.

[/quote]

Nope. Wrong again. I’m totally supportive of government not intervening. I’m against more drilling, and frankly, if I were to choose between the two, I’d prefer anarchist capitalism versus socialism.

That said, I don’t wish for $150/barrel, because like I said it’s pretty naive to thing it’s not somehow not going to impact you. But what I wish or what you wish frankly is irrelevant, because neither you our I control the markets, nor am I really supportive of any type of intervention, such as some dumb as proposal to have a tax on oil companies for being overly profitable, nor shall we have a summer relief on federal/state tax for fuel.

As far as high gas prices. Well, again, not everyone is created equal. Not everyone is entitled to afford to drive “land-yachts”. And if $10/gal gas hits not everyone is entitled to drive anything/everything. It’s all in perspective of one’s financial means.
I’m merely pointing out a measly engineer’s salary and engineer’s job isn’t exactly the income that one can boast “I’m going ot be immune for bigtime fuel hikes”.

But like I said, please keep the shithole you’re going to be in a lot sooner than others nice and warm for the rest of us, because again, looking at a shithole will definitely make you feel differently than once you’re in one.

Btw: you might get 50mpg in your prius, but I recall you live in CV and work in downtown. I might get 20mpg (24 if I really really drive like a pansy), but I drive 5 miles to work every day I don’t telecommute. And my sig other doesn’t even take the freeway and has a 10 min commute. So, again, let’s see who’s really gonna hurt with $7/gal or even $10/gal gas.

[Coronita]

[quote] Good post Cooper. I find it funny that both AN and FLU claim to be conservatives, and yet they both seem to want government to step in an “fix” the price of oil.

They can’t seem to make up their mind. They each want the freedom to drive huge land yachts and fly up to the Bay area whenever fancy strikes them but they don’t want to pay for it. Kind of like the Iraq War – they each want some other generation of taxpayers to pay for it even though a President they each voted for started it.

As for me, I talk the talk, but I also walk the walk. I probably have a smaller carbon foot print than 80% to 90% of the population. I drive a very fuel efficient car, I live close to where I work, I rent a modest place, and I only fly if my job requires it (which happens very rarely.)

If everyone lived like me, gas would probably still be around $2/gallon. Meanwhile, FLU and AN are probably driving land yachts and flying around the country every weekend and then they want to try and blame me for fuel prices increasing. Like most faux conservatives, they are the epitomy of hypocrisy.

[/quote]

Nope. Wrong again. I’m totally supportive of government not intervening. I’m against more drilling, and frankly, if I were to choose between the two, I’d prefer anarchist capitalism versus socialism.

That said, I don’t wish for $150/barrel, because like I said it’s pretty naive to thing it’s not somehow not going to impact you. But what I wish or what you wish frankly is irrelevant, because neither you our I control the markets, nor am I really supportive of any type of intervention, such as some dumb as proposal to have a tax on oil companies for being overly profitable, nor shall we have a summer relief on federal/state tax for fuel.

As far as high gas prices. Well, again, not everyone is created equal. Not everyone is entitled to afford to drive “land-yachts”. And if $10/gal gas hits not everyone is entitled to drive anything/everything. It’s all in perspective of one’s financial means.
I’m merely pointing out a measly engineer’s salary and engineer’s job isn’t exactly the income that one can boast “I’m going ot be immune for bigtime fuel hikes”.

But like I said, please keep the shithole you’re going to be in a lot sooner than others nice and warm for the rest of us, because again, looking at a shithole will definitely make you feel differently than once you’re in one.

Btw: you might get 50mpg in your prius, but I recall you live in CV and work in downtown. I might get 20mpg (24 if I really really drive like a pansy), but I drive 5 miles to work every day I don’t telecommute. And my sig other doesn’t even take the freeway and has a 10 min commute. So, again, let’s see who’s really gonna hurt with $7/gal or even $10/gal gas.

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